CHAZARAH - Zevachim Daf 86 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] Good morning. [groaning] Boy, we're holding by a brand new Mishnum on the [clears throat] bottom. There are things that don't belong in the at all. For instance, besimarum the meat of an asham which the kite is supposed to eat. So it doesn't belong in the mb at all. Take it off immediately. This is not meat that could have gone in the just it had a soul. You thought about pigle so you say it should remain. This is meat that's not for the mb at all. It's human meat. You have you're supposed to eat yourself. [clears throat] So real quickly once in a while we discuss the is a carbon that you bring on the second day of PES and that allows you to eat the new crap of wheat. Without this carbon you can't eat the new crap of wheat. So that's the you bring a carbon. So if you have the leftover of this carbon and he put it on the he wasn't supposed to put on the The two breads they bring on sh they don't belong in the this is upon him with the two you put this upon him on it's a no no and you have leftover from part of the goes on the goes in part of it is you for you to eat you put that part onto you putus every morning every afternoon this twice a day this you put the on it's no good you got to take it off you have the right the belongs in the inner on the it's called there's a golden and that's the misb and on that misb he's supposed to put the he went ahead thank you you're supposed to put the on this. It's actually called or sometimes we call it or sometimes we call it it's inside the this is where you're supposed to put the this went and put it over here. He put it on this m you got to take it off. It doesn't belong there that falls off of this. Do you take do you put back on? Not if if it falls you can't it can't be on this guy. It can't be on the if it's on you take him off. You not you you don't wait for him to fly off and then you don't put him back on. You take him off. That's what we just learned. You got to take it off. The the wool on top of the head of a of a of a sheep. Now the wool of a sheep never reaches them. Why? Because we skin it. But the head we don't skin. So he still has here. Here is not something that goes on usually, but it's part of the head. So it goes on or the beard of a goat. So this is this is the part that we had yesterday from our Mishna bones and the horns and the hoofs. When they're connected to the head or the feet, you put it on the the senus they're part of the meat they go up means all of it everything but let's say uh the miner took out the senus [clears throat] cut off the horn they don't go on so we have a problem the seem to contradict themselves on the one hand it says says the the country put everything on the comes to include everything all the bones the senus the the horns the hoofs I think that even if it's separated from the body you have the the horns in a bag it's a only the if the says the only thing you put on the is imagine if every single animal we had to do niker remove all the gum before you put it onto the take off all take out all the bones that's what it says in the baser dum there's two things you can put on has to come fresh in a package from benny's meat and put it onto it can't have any bones No, you put everything on. Says, "So what is it?" Okay. If it's attached to the animal, it should go up. Now, let's remember this one. So we're saying that once it separates from the animal, even if you put it on top of the misbeh You have a bone that somehow made it to the top of the do it must come off the misbeh In a moment we're going to say that this is the sheet of the arguing this they say no if it's on the car you can put it up you can be it says yeah bones sus all this stuff take it off it can remain if it's attached four lines down who's this Tana that says that if it's separated it must come off. [clears throat] This is the we're going to have this the same over and over. This is comes to include all these things that are not things that we eat. They're not edible. This is that even if it was separated and goes in, leave it there. But what do they do with the other that says only [clears throat] when a piece of an that got singed by the fire flew off the from the heat? You put it back on. But if it's let's say a bone that flew off. Okay. So leave it on the ground. You have to be and put it back on. But if you put it on, it shouldn't go on. It shouldn't go off. You put it on, you put a nice bone on the leave it there argues right says put everything on this that's an inclusion includes all the stuff this is an exclusion so what do we do this is it everything or it's only okay I'll make sure over here if it's attached let it go up perish and if it's detached from the bone is detached from the meat and that's like our Mishna that if it's parachute if it's detached parachute so this little T is not important that much but just what gear because in the mission says Pu and Ty says it's not going on the Mishna we're actually now going to discuss even though in myar it's like in bold as if it's on the we're going to discuss what we just read from the take a look at this all we're showing over here is this k is walking up and the bones separated from the from the meat and the bones fell away in the opposite direction of the fire but if they fall towards the fire then just leave it then put it on the m let's See in this case where the bones were separated and they fell downwards away then do not put it back on then you have to go and it makes no sense. You're telling me a bone it's deboned. What's how do you call it, Benny? You deboned it. It's completely the bone by itself without any meat. >> Filt. >> The meat gets >> the the meat gets deboned, right? Okay. So, there must be some other word >> off the bone. >> Demeated. >> Demeated. [laughter] >> How can it be? This this bone is demeated and you're going to put it on the right. And we're not even talking about putting on from here on. We're not talking. We're talking about when it it's separated after we're not talking about we're talking about that if this bone separated before. So now it became something that you shouldn't be putting on and actually allows you to use the bone. even to make from this bone a handle for a knife. Viser sent me a picture. I believe I actually held one of these knives in my hand. I have proof in a second. I'll show you. See these these knives? These handles are actually bones. That's what he says. They make it out of bone. In this particular one, it has some sort of rubber band around. He says that his hand shouldn't slip. It's to make it but these are bones. I said, "But why? Why bones?" He's like, "That's how they do it. I don't No, he doesn't know why exactly. It's the bone of an animal. So it says in this classic we have the same words by the same words by and therefore whatever we have we're going to apply to the just like you're permitted to use the bones. So too when it comes to you're permitted to use the bones. Remember this. We're going to ask a question on this. Now we're saying you're permitted to use the bones of anah. Now just to to do a little reviewer sha it's mish for a minute. So don't get nervous here. Sha is one of the mo the most powerful limo that we have together with the heesh. It'su got this directly from he says only these words not all anything you pick the over here and the over here they're the same words but mainly you learn something from them you learn the bones but that only works if it's ma what does that mean typically speaking you can't ask a question on this is what Hashem said the words oh but it doesn't make sense to me very different very good they're very different but you have when do I say very good I have shva when the words of the shva are completely extra and then we had a whole does it have to be extra on both sides or one out of the two is extra is going one out of two but if it's not extra then maybe hashem was speaking about something else he's talking about a different something else in the this is not I could ask a question that the the us and the are different what's the difference is something that a human being eats a kay eats asham we get to eat part of the asham so we get to eat part of ash makes a lot of sense I use the bone and make a knife out of it. But in you don't get to eat anything. The entire thing goes in this B. I could use the bone for for a knife must be that the is completely extra. And I'm going to show you why one word. It must be that it's completely extra the because if the words is not extra then I could ask a bomb question could eat it and therefore you could use it. In fact, it's very it's like almost like riddish. It doesn't even say it clear, but here it is. It's so when you look at the P, you see how extra it is. We're talking about he's he's bringing the this is where this is the that the height of goes to the if I was writing this, I would stop right there. It goes to the it should be to him. It's completely extra. We have I don't know if that's I just made it up. What's a typical that we're discussing in this line right over this three that I can remember? Maybe it's but let's talk about these bones. If there's no performed then you use it your you have to pay 25% you have to bring a carbon we know the is a matter allows you to use once the is performed it removes it then the can use it this is a very big problem this is always you're not permitted to make a knife from it you're not allowed to make a handle from it. How did you tell me you're allowed to make a handle out of the bone? Oh, it says if you make a knife handle, you you have to pay 25% and bring your carbon. It's going to cost you at least 500 bucks. You're right. If it's separated before, then there's no to make a handle from it. this bracelet that says that is once it was after then there's to use it says the exact opposite if it's separated from the meat before so what's going to be m you hear he says you have a you have a and the bone separated from the meat now the bone is not something that goes on this now I do. So the zika has no connection to this bone is on the meat. So this got stuck over here as as as you can't use it but if it's separated after then there's no but he also sticks in something else that he argues with. He says you're not you're not benefit from it. What are we talking about? We're talking about these bones that we just discussed. We're talking about the puzzle stuff that was on the flew off the from the pressure of the fire. Take your pencil right in over here mean over here. In this case, you don't have to put it back. Not you don't have to also a cold that flew off from the fire again. Once again, you don't have to. So now I'm making a distinction between the cutoff line is midnight literally the middle of the night. If the night is 12 hours long, so 6 hours into the night, if these flew off before midnight, in other words, it's since I have to put it back in the if I didn't then I used it for a knife, then I have to pay the but once it's after you don't have to put it back on, there's no more me anymore. >> Why? So Rashi brings a line here that's to know for once the mitzvah was performed in other words it's already a cold went through the process it's done it's charred there's no meal anymore just like the when you put the meat on top over here it gives So too, if you don't even make it, right? These are separate entities. You have a square and you have a way to get up here. But if you drop off your your stuff, the peagle right over here, you don't take it off. It's a kadesh. Perhaps you could say Muser Haskell over here. This is the gaducha right over here. Not only a person who's in a madrega that reached already the madrega of is already there but even a person that's climbing to get there he's going up he's on his way he started the process says oh you got it I got I have a question for you guys. We said if it goes on this goes on this kadesh. What about the red part down here? What do you guys say? Huh? What about the red part? >> Theide on the side. You say no. I say if the if the so certainly the which is part of the is part of the it's not me saying it put inside a gives a bomb question what's going on here before and after I want to know what's going on here is it well done is it medium rear is it charcoal what is it if It's still edible. So after you still have to put it back on his back. It's not it's not it's not it's still usable. It's still edible. And if it's already charred like anything, so why do you have to put it back on this before? It's gone. It's charred. It's like muscley. I'm just throwing that in. I don't know if that's the lion, but it's basically means that it's it's it's hard. It doesn't have any moisture. Wow, this picture is terrible. Okay, now you can see it over here. The bottom one is a complete coal. It's done. Finish. Don't put it back. We're talking about shir. This is the best I could figure out. It It's hard like wood, but it's still a little bit. You could see there's a little buster left in there. So, that's what we're saying. If it's before, put it back on after it's not. How do you know there's a concept called says a very easy? You have something for me because we have a contradiction. It says that you should be mocked. You should put stuff on all night long. And then it says you should do all night long. Which one is it? So hold on. Let me just show you real quickly. Very important. Take a look. This is the first thing you do in the morning, right? Let's get into our heads. vers that amigos. The sun goes up right before Alisa shak back outside takes a shovel full of coal brings it down and puts it in a very special place next to the bay there. I'll show you the right side of the ramp in a second. Puts it over here. Okay, here it goes like this. If you want to see, this is the right side of the ramp. takes the the things, goes back down, comes around, goes in 10 three away from the wall, boom, puts it over there. When do you do this, Rabbi? You put half of it, I'm sorry, half the night. Half the night is when you could be mocked up to until midnight and the other half is forum. I forgot to show you something over here. Yoshi did this. If two pieces of meat fly off the misbeha depends. One is very singed and one is, you know, it has a little bit of meat left in there. It's right before. So he takes the piece that has a little bit of meat left in it and he puts it back on the every single day you you take the when the rooster crows. When is that? Right before a little bit before a little bit after. So now we have three different times. Every day when they do right before that's a whole another time the night is divided in into thirds this three/3 right thirds three the first third at the end of the first third. So let me show you what it looks like real quickly and then we have to go to shakas. This is the clock is midnight, six hours into it, let's say. And that there's also three parts here. So every single morning you go right before a minute a few minutes before it's midnight and it's before the end of the first the first. So what's the latest one here? Alo is the it's the end of the night. What's the earliest one? The be the end of the first is and the middle is so we just had a contradiction and we said is like this is from how can you do before or they they also explain how can you do sad what are you waiting every single morning until do it midnight what are you waiting till the morning that's the words If you look at this post real quickly, it says the whole night till the morning. It's double g make a morning. Make it earlier than the than the earliest time. The earliest time of the day is make give that a morning. Go a little bit earlier. So what do you do? Take a look at this chart for a second. If you're on listening, I'm sorry. The word adaber is extra give it to the gimmel the next goes for the why is it why do I have to have in this poss I don't need it you don't need it put it on the next when's this extra morning that will decide every day depending on when they feel like it'll go you don't have to be you don't have to go middle of the night early in the morning before before alloys I want the to have a little rest at night. Then we go in the middle of the night. There's so many and the ash is piling up like crazy and there's a lot of work to move the ashes to the side and to put the new wood because it says that so many didn't come. So they decided to do it at the end of the third. Have a wonderful day. Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today. mdysponsor.com or sponsor at mdyop.com.