CHAZARAH - Zevachim Daf 84 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] Good morning. We're holding that B like 18 lines from the bottom. The good news is that is super short. So, we're going to hope to finish today's D. This is this makes it super easy. Real easy. We're discussing there's a large list of items that are puzzled that if you put on the misb you don't have to take them off the misb if they were put on the by mistake you don't take them off put on you weren't supposed to put on you don't take it off there's a another list of items that if you put on the you must remove them so we have a fiveway is really what the main word is what what to concentrate on if we do this it'll be super the whole the whole suga is easy all the way to Mishna saysim the the the point is fire something that goes in a fire doesn't come off the misb so wine doesn't go in the fire so you have to take it off the mah blood does it go in the fire blood >> no so it comes off the misb that's it says no the word is msak anything goes on does wine go on yes does blood go yes so if they go those things and all other items that go in his bath don't come off says the he brings the word I threw in it must come by itself as its own carbon so if wine is attached to another carbon you bring together with wine so that wine comes off because it's not it's not it's it's not an individual it's own it's own its own so the here is my so these three the first three we had in the we're going to discuss now and then we're going to move very very quickly into say something very similar says the key word is it has to be an animal that would limit what a let's say it's not an animal wine not an says the word is very similar to there's one between the two of them has to be an animal but what else is there in that doesn't have so that's now if I ask you a bunch of questions you probably know the answer to all them you'd know the whole now because says fire says says has to be its own individual thing says it has to be an animal and so does say has to be an animal like says now 18 lines on the bottom here you see the has to come by itself it has to be something that comes on its own if you're bringing a type of a carbon now there are that come by themselves or just forget that's a mistake that's a different come by themselves. You don't take it off. It has to be called if the wine comes because of the and it's not supposed to be there or even if it's bo even it's kosher get it off. It's to remember the over here. It's not to remember just to pay attention. This is any any type of carbon wine that touches the touches it has a power to make it. So that would basically mean everything. But the next says and after that it says so anything all items it's like a sheep sheep is it's appropriate to put on his back. No, the key word is not the key word is just like the goes on the be something that belongs in the so what's the difference between the bird is also an so according to that he learns from the word that is included in the and therefore if which is in this case when you don't take it goes with goes from the word has to be and not a bird. But one cannot ignore the other. can't ignore the fact that says can't ignore the fact that says only that's we're going to see in the Mishna a whole part of the Mishna discusses this that if you bring a live animal onto this get him off right away but he's he's supposed to be soon no get him off is a it's already that it's going up to Hashem it's not about to It is. So it's it's not alive anymore. That learns the key word. But what is he going to do with that seems like only an animal? Oh, I need to tell you that it's it's a it's it's a living thing, not it's it's a not a not a flower has to be Oh, so if we go back to here, we have the three of our we have the two that we just discussed. Everything's clear now. Yeah. So what would be between the first three and the second two? There's something called Yeah. Is a that comes because he decided to bring a it's it consists of flour, oil and wine. How much oil? How much wine? Depends. If you say it's a of a of the of this we say yeah different the different measurements of of oil but it comes it comes by itself. So is it something that goes on? Yes. Is it something that comes by itself? Yeah. By itself. So therefore our all the are going to hold. It doesn't come off. It's not avous. It's not a Don't hold here. So, let's see how it works. Take a look. Yeshua needs to be on the fire. Why? Because it's a it's flower says certainly it doesn't come off. It's it goes. It's its own individual thing. It doesn't go together. It's not associated to another carbon. So, but if you hold that it's it has to be an animal. It's not an animal. It's not an animal. So, according to these two says and now comes and he makes a seder over here in the whole is this is this is so now it's interesting this you don't find a like this we have to do another slider because this is it's the same thing there's a a fine doesn't mean all five in this means the whoever the is that's so you have no no nothing to do with the Mishna the three out of five is considered interesting no if you stop over there it'll mean all five but it means no it means that's Like we just saw, same thing. [clears throat] Now what about a that comes together with a carbon? What's going to change over here? You see now changes a little bit. Is those three because they're the three out of the five. Great. Let's think about it. If wine wine comes by itself, what's going to hold? It comes by itself. Huh? Anybody? So, let's see what happens. Whoa. But according to Yeshua, if wine doesn't go on a fire, wine doesn't go on a fire. So, that's going to have to be ter. Okay. So that's Clark that comes with a carbon. No. What's going to change here? Whoa. What just happened there? So only only according to loiter. Why? Because says misbeha wine is not something that goes in the fire. So says it has to go off didn't come by itself. It's together with a carbon according to it's not an animal. So according to everybody according to why something that goes on says very interesting you says why do you need a whole I need a synopsis here the whole what what did add to to something I didn't know? I could have figured all this out by myself. Says what? At the end of the day, he came to say one thing. A person is permitted to bring to the consist of flour, wine, and oil if he feels like it. That's all he wanted to tell us. says so then say it like said why do you have to give me a whole and he doesn't even say the main point you have to figure out from what what just says [clears throat] at the end of the day he wanted to tell us that since the is that if you bring a carbon you could bring the that go along along with the carbon. A bunch of carbonas have wine that go with them. That wine doesn't have to go together with the carbon. You can bring it in a day later, a month later. So if it if it comes by I would think that it comes by itself since it could come at a different day. I think it's it's considered something by itself. You can do it at night. The next day they're considered like go by itself. In that case agrees that it's something that doesn't go off the mbah because it's by itself holds it comes off the if you want to see it all together just to give yourself a headache. This is what it looks like. Okay. Now we're going to give you a list of the things the items that go on. It's a long list. We have to understand why this list doesn't come off the misb and the other list goes off the misbalat that stayed overnight. We'll show you a video on what is I'll show you a video right now. What's hal? Halon is something that stayed overnight. Meat that went out of the md and came back onto the meat that's if the meat as the the was performing the he thought in his mind that he's going to bring it to his son's bris a week from now or he's going to eat it insh outside of or outside. So it's possible now you put it on you don't take it off is gonna explain we're talking about that are so apostle person was apostle which he shouldn't it passes the carbon but if you put it on it doesn't come off comes and says we Three things is going to explain why these three things. Three things at night. If the blood spilled onto the floor or even if it was accepted in a clichus and it spilled on the floor and later on you you picked it off the floor the blood went outside of the we have to find out why. So may okay you according according to that mish fell right on the floor. It was never depends where the where the happened. If it's if it's something that happened now in the mdash then if you put on the thing some other that had had nothing to do with mdo what are examples and here's the list an animal that is performed with it or it performed on the human being somebody set aside an animal for Somebody worshiped this animal. It was a payment for and somebody did a trade. He traded a a sheep for a dog. So you can't take the the sheep and use it as as if you take two a goat and a sheep and you have a offspring that's a mixture [clears throat] found that it has a hole in it. born with a bal says that a balm is okay. We discussed this already. What kind of balm does mean that's okay? Cataract. father says wouldn't allow the just like is if you have a piece of meat that wasn't supposed to go on the you don't take it off if it popped off the don't put it back on because it's not that makes it the doesn't fix it if it's on you don't take it off it already grabbed it so leave it but once it comes off again you don't put it You have a live animal, get it off. That's what we discussed before. If you have that on top of them, it must come off. If it's alive, the guy didn't know what he's doing and he did a on top of the show you tomorrow sent me. He said, "It's very easy to do. It's basically you skin it. You pull the skin right off and you chop it up into the p the the pieces that you need to chop it up and then you put it onto the fire. Says we have three words here. These are three limitations. If it was shifted at night and the blood spilled, if the blood went outside of the rabbi learns it differently from the word learn and he keeps on going. The list goes left over in his head and apostle here. This we didn't have in a while goes above the red line goes below the red line and he reversed it. [clears throat] there. There's blood that goes on the most bloods go on the outer, some go inside. He reversed it in the first of the only two that you have to that carbon. How do I know that all these this entire list if you put it on? Over here the word is not so much carbon but it's a went on the word something that goes up doesn't come down. Oh but what about the other list? We have a whole other list of things that do come up. It's a all these things and it's a limitation. No, only some of them don't come off. But this whole list comes off. But why? Why did you decide this list? Yes. And this list. Wow. What are we going to do here? We got to slow down a little bit. The difference is that the the list that doesn't come off the is because they're they became possible in the in the mdash a whole list of those who Okay. Yeah. Let me stop in the middle of the word and something that has nothing to do with the already possible for like etc. So now says far like this it's a it's very very simple what is going to do is anything that has like a sort of anything that We see some sort of heter in this thing. >> Yeah. Anything that has a in another application in another scenario if it goes on to misbeh doesn't come offshel [clears throat] pigle where where does piggle have a heather? So that you're going to have to wait. What about Lena? Lena has a heter. You see sometimes you're allowed to eat meat after two days. The meat it has a little bit of a head or somewhere else. So if it goes onto this doesn't come off. So let's see how he does this. Why if the blood is left over overnight? What does kosher mean in this? In this case means that if it goes onto them doesn't come off. We see that byim if you you have the the parts of the carbon that have to go onto if they stayed overnight you're if the person put it on by mistake it stays on and how do I know how do I even know that how do I know we see like in inum you get to eat it after two days so which you can't eat after a day day and a The whole bama is outside of anything that comes off that bama is already. We see that sometimes is okay. If you have most of that by we saw it this is interesting. Where do we see that pigle is okay is in order for pigle pigle is very sensitive in order for to work we said you can't have another you can't have let's say pigle has to be so pigle all doesn't have to be kosher has to be ker in order for pagle to work but how could that be kosher if you thought that it's pagle it's pigle you ruined it with your is a pigle so you see that the the let's say you're and you're thinking that you're going to eat this carbon in in a year from now in a week from now by your kids's breast. So you had a bad maka it should have ruined the but if it ruined the then it's not pigle cuz you have to have a good for the pigle to work. So you see that pigle actually sometimes it does work it's kosher with the pigle it's still kasher. So you have a little bit of a of a situation of cash and people that that far doesn't work doesn't need the the cash. Okay. You compare where do we see that somebody who's that accepts that does it's okay because we're talking about these are that today they're but tomorrow they're not. So they have uh a situation of of uh of cash. Now the gamar just goes back to what pointed out when the gar makes a comparison between that are ple to to or to go on to more than a day and a night two days and a night what do you bring me from something that the says you could eat it for two days says wait a minute wait a minute before you get up we're we're We're almost finished at 8:00 800. Oh no, we have a and we don't know what what list goes in the don't take it off the MB and what list take it off. So if you have some sort of far out connection that's enough to put it in the list of it doesn't come off the makoai have a wonderful day. >> [music] >> Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today. mdysponsor.com [music] or sponsor atmop.com.