CHAZARAH - Zevachim Daf 80 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] Good morning. Holding by the we already had this and the is going to ask why we need another case. If the blood of a good carbon aim carbon got mixed in with the blood of an animal that has a blemish and you cannot put it on them is you have no choice but to pour it out into the drainage system in the individual kum cups that are holding the Many good, one bad. If you sprinkle the blood of one of the cups, you have one cup in 10 cups. What's you find a piece of meat one out of 10 stores one of the one out of 10 stores is not is we say it's okay the meat it's there's a bit of usually in the tyra you have one cup and 10 cups let's say so it's so the rice you should be able to sprinkle it so if somebody went ahead and didn't listen didn't know sprinkle the blood of one cup we are going to assume that that one cup that was sprinkled is the bad cup the rest of the cups are all good Where do we have this? We had word for word. If there was a bunch of heads of animals, one was from a rest were regular and a person put a head on the misb. So you can continue putting the heads on this. What do we say? How do you put the heads on? >> Two at a time. >> Two at a time. Two two. >> So the same thing with this would be two at a time as the is going to explain. So why do we need another case? They're like pessimist. We have to be concerned that maybe even if all the cups went on to they were sprinkled. Perhaps the last last cup that's the bad one. And if that's the bad one, you can't put it onto the Here we go. We have the red line [clears throat] [laughter] above the red line. When it comes to animals, there's only one animal, one carbon that goes above the red line and that is the katas. Below the red line, all the carbonas. So let's say and got mixed up. The blood of the and the got mixed up. Now what goes first? If you have a you have two cups, you're one kayen. You're the only cayenne in the and there's two cups of blood. What is a one is? Which one should go on the first? Which one should you perform the welcome back? Which one goes first or why? Where did you get that from? From the rashi arts girl. I also know how to read the arts from the rashi. I say if you don't know, I would say I don't know. It goes it goes to Hashem should do the first. So Katus goes first. Kadus goes first. So you're supposed to do the upper bloods before the lower bloods. He says, "Go ahead and put the blood over the red line." Above the red line. The problem is how could you do that? If you put the blood that belongs above the red line, below the red line, what's the puzzle? Carbon is ple you have to start all over again. You take the bloods that below that belong below the red line. You put it above the red line. What's >> ple? >> So now what are you doing? Why are you taking blood from and pouring on top of the red line? Because there's a little bit of blood of a katas in there. But the problem is there's blood also. How could you go ahead go ahead and pour the blood of the on top of the the red line when it doesn't belong there. >> So says, this is a concept that we saw over and over in the last few days. I pretend and I say to myself what belongs below the red line the oil of blood what I'm sprinkling now Hashem forgive me I'm not trying to perform an here I'm not trying to sprinkle blood I'm washing down the mbah with water I'm I'm sprinkling water at the mid is in the head it's what My is my is I am the part that's is water. The part that's that's the part that I want to throw on top of the red line. And then what do you do? And then you repeat you repeat part of the process. You go ahead. Now you have blood that's mixed blood does not belong below the red line. Blood does belong below the red line. So you sprinkle the blood below the red line. Question. Do I have to say to myself that the blood that I'm sprinkling below the red line is water? >> It doesn't say it in the Mishna. Why not? Why not? >> Right. >> What what did what did say the belongs below the red line anyway. Whatever is left over from the sprinkling of the kat, you have to pour where? right over there where the is sitting in this picture right behind them are two holes you have to pour so pour over there do a right above it and everything will go into the so it's not you don't have to start thinking oh it's water it's not water is blood I'm throwing aim of blood I'm doing a no it's not a good the whole thing pour it into the drainage system question are we talking about a or over here because a bird the bird goes above the red line and and a katus bird goes below the red line the reverse when it comes to birds. So are we talking about birds or a carbon? We're talking about an animal here. How do I know? How do how did I know? You can't answer anymore. You're done for the day. Hold on. If nobody else knows we're there's a cle over here. We're talking about a cle. It's in a cle. So bird. There's no cle in a bird. No, you take the remember you take the bird itself you go you squeeze you do mits you sprinkle but there's no is talking about an animal if he didn't ask a question it's interesting there's a lot of this kind of in this he didn't go to the and ask what to do he did it anyway it is kosher what's kosher the top one is kosher [snorts] says the mishna more cases of mixup. Oh, what kind of carbon do you only give one one sprinkle of haz? What kind of carbon? >> This is four. These are one peser and one one sprinkle. Let's say a BAR got mixed up with the micer. They only need one one where below the red line or above the red line. There's only one carbon that you go above the red line. That's a so it's all below the red line. And all you need to do is one. So it got mixed in. The two bloods got mixed. It's not a problem. Give it one sprinkle and you both. Let's say you mix up with you. So go ahead and sprinkle it four times. But what's the problem? The problem is if you have a which only needs one and a that needs four and they get mixed in together. What do you do? Now you're stuck. If you do four that's you can't do more than necessary. If you had aar and you went around with the instead of do waring you went around did four you' be and if you do less than four then you know what does he say you're looking if to go ahead and say I'm only doing one because I'm That's about that you're if you did it then you say okay I was even if I'm saying even if you're here's the both in the same everything I told you to keep you You should how do you say not watch um >> observe observe don't add and don't don't detract. So, as I said, tells how could you do one if you're being the says you should do four and you're doing one, but how could you do four when the only requires one and you're adding to it? That's he says very good. If the blood was all by itself, you took the bkar blood and you sprinkle it four times your you take a little you shake it on your but over here we have a mixture and what I'm sprinkling on is not the I'm trying to sprinkle four of the that's not a problem. It's interesting because it's really that started up with is like answering to him about butisha took this personally. So you're telling me I'm over Baltigra. It's not Baltigra. The only time if you took something that requires for like didn't want that's but the reason why I didn't want is because involved of it says this is the concept in the Tyra. What does that mean? If you if you're if you have a dilemma and you could do something or not do something, it's better not to take action. Don't do anything. Sit back. You didn't do it. So, you didn't do it. When you do when you do four, you took action with your hands. You literally took action against what the tire said. When you do one, you're not taking action. It's a lack of action. You're sitting back. You're not going to do more than one. You're right. Let's say these these these are equal. One is don't add and one is don't retract don't detract. Rather do don't detract or yeah because you're not doing anything. You didn't take action. Okay. All right. So this now we have a a freebie said that bringing the blood on the if you already poured one cup is when you do [snorts] afterwards one cup went on the so now you bring two at a time. Why? Because when you bring two at a time one of them is 100% good. One of them for sure is 100% kosher. It's one cup that's not good. So if one of them is 100% kosher then the other one is also kosher. >> What you mean? Cuz it's left hand or you grab it. They have handles. Go like this. It's probably better cuz then they both come out together. You should not put it on them one at a time. The same question we had on the head says in the if we did to all the bloods and one of them is left over. We assume the one that's left over is the bad one. Don't don't pour. Pour it into the into the drainage. So what do you see? What do you see? Say that if there's one left, don't put it on the And what does hold? He argues and he says you do. Even though there's one left, you don't need two. Two. One is enough. That's his name. His name is So it's like he could have said, it says, the Gar is telling us he told. But what did he tell him? He didn't call him. He called him the son of Azrael. Let me explain it to you. It was one pair. >> Oh. So why do I need blood and heads? It's the same exact even the answer of the that one means appear by the head. How do you get to that head? How do you put a head on the It means that the step before that there's blood and the blood went onto the mah. We know that the final step in kapara is the the that's the m that allows you to put something on the so there's already a kapara the owner of this animal already got a kapara so now the child is to put on you put it on yeah and again so you can put it on it's there's a little problem okay so you put it on you already got a kapara but when it comes to blood where there's no kapar that this is the blood that's causing the you shouldn't put on the and if we only say it by the blood then it's just the reverse this is why say that you shouldn't put it on the because there's no but when it comes to the heads maybe they hold that you could put on great awesome so we have a beautiful here you have a a cle that contains special may water. water from a spring mixed with ashes and anybody that becomes tummy in the time that we had a paradum you go to you next to the mace you become m whatever it is you have to get sprinkled on the third day on the seventh day a whole process mikvah but you need to get sprinkled this guy yeah he's making good money over here people come to him obviously not ask for money but they get donations and all sorts of things it's he's running out. So he goes to the sink and he fills up a little bit. Now the sink obviously is no good. It's ple ple water into this water. What do you do? This is fascinating. Usually you get you get sprinkled once. Repeat the process. Give one more sprinkle. What's how does it make it? Why? Why twice? Maybe maybe you should sprinkle six times more. If one doesn't work, why would two work? What's the connection between? How do you how do you add one more and now it's good? You have a big clay. So, we have to breaks it down to small parts. It's unbelievable. Say, forget about it. You're out of luck here. You poured water from the sink. That's it. Nobody's t anymore. You got to start over. Now, what does bilah mean? Oh, I have Oh, this is galdic. Check this out. This is bilah. Bah means that if you mix something up, if you pour, you introduce liquid into anything like where do we have this by carbon pes? We said there's a million carbonas in the in the azara. One carbon the blood fell in there. It got mixed into all the 100 million gallons. Why? Because microscopically that's how liquids work. They spread out everywhere and every So here we go. We're talking about you have the paradum water and my mineral rallium. It says here mineral water from the sink. Let's see what happens. [sighs] >> [snorts] >> There's a lot of cows. Every molecule is built from meatas cows and one horse. Every single molecule, every single drop of water is going to have that. So, what does it look like over here? Every single blue has a tiny bit of red in it. Every single drop. That's there's a mix. You can't get away from it. It's everywhere. So, Raana must hold. [clears throat] There's a mixture in every drought. The But at the end of the day, you need a certain amount. Let's say you need 10 milliliters to there's a now if there's a shear or not a she. Let's say you need at least 10 milliliters. The problem is that your 10 milliliters, you filled up a glass of 10 milliliters, but 25% of that glass is going to be ple water because there's a mixture. So when I when I when I sprinkled him It's if I sprinkle them exactly the 10 milliliters, I didn't get enough in there. I didn't get enough in there. So, what are you going to do? Sprinkle them again. They don't combine. You can't combine sprinkles. You got to get them on one sprinkle. Elmis, you going to say, "Oh, sprinkle the whole thing." Yeah, maybe. But I can't go I have to say, "What if I do the the normal sprinkle 10 million? It's not good." And to add another one is also not good. So we have two things here, three things. First of all, first of all, there's there's a mixture. Once there's a mixture, that tells me that in every single sprinkle, there's bad there's bad water. If there's bad water, then there's not it's not a kosher sprinkle. I need a minimum of 10 milliliters. Let's say there's no shear. Let's say I don't need a shear. So that then I could then then it would work because in every sprinkle there's a little bit of good. Even if it's 25% good and there's no shear, it could be a it could be a tiny drop. As long as one little drop hit me, I'm kosher. But there is a shear and there's a mixture and it and you can't combine two different sprinkles. Now what that's but what does hold? We have a big problem here. Hello. Let's do this together. If he holds that there's no there's no mixture. So what happened? Every drop could be in its own drop. You have drops that are red, drops that are blue. They're not combined. They didn't under the microscope. You're not going to see a mixture. They're they're they're separated. Ma, it's possible that when I sprinkled you, I got you with red with red dots only. There's zero blue. So now So what are you going to tell me? Do it again. I did it again and I hit you again with only red. Who told me? Who told you I ever got you with a little blue? That's behold that there's no that they don't combine that they don't mix together. Maybe he got them from sink water only. So obviously must admit that everything mixes in together. Okay. So we got step one. He holds Now what what's the next step? Next step is does he hold it? You need a shear. He doesn't hold it. You need a shar. You don't need a shar. You don't need a shear. One obviously contains a little bit of kosher water and you're what I need to. So now step by step we just proved he must hold you need a great start from. So then what's the next problem? You must say that he holds that they don't combine because if they combine then just do twice and finished. They don't combine. So if they don't combine what do you gain by doing it twice? They don't combine and even if they do combine who told you that after two times you're going to get 10 milliliters. Maybe it's going to take you six times to get 10 milliliters. Okay. Okay, so now we have three T- roots. Just see them bal real quickly ter number one is we holds it does mix and you do need a she just it's what was saying that this there's not there's not a lot it's exactly the amount kosher and not kosher in order to do a good you have to you have to use it all up you have to give him two that's one says yes there is bilah and you don't need a shar you don't need a shar So why do you have to do it twice? You know why? Cuz we punished you. Not because you really need twice. One is enough. Every drop has enough. >> Just I don't want you filling up from sink water. I want you to use it all up. I want you to do another time. And finally Ravashi says, "No, there's no mixing." And Aah doesn't need a shear. But in order to get to the sh in order to get to in order to for me to know that I for sure got you, I have to do it twice. Cuz maybe on the there's no bea. There's no there's no mixing. So the first one maybe I didn't get at all. The second one that's why you have to do two you hold we hold that there that all the all the water combined and you do need a shear. That's why by just giving him one zets it's not enough. Why? Because you need a shear. You need 10 milliliters. You're right that in every draft there's kosher water but it's not enough. I need a good amount. I need 10 mill. here. I don't know what he did here. Why did so much? Are you showing that he used it? >> Hold on. What is this? >> No. Here. This is what we want to get to. Want to get to that. This is Let's say the shear. This is what he had left. Fine. There's only a certain amount in the glass. The exact the exact amount of the shear that you need. There's 10 milliters 10 milliliters in the bowl. >> And he put a little bit of sink water. So in order to be in order to get him with all 10 milliliters, I have to dunk it twice. Interesting. And if there's three times three times like Okay, it's interesting. Why two? And says I agree through I I disagree that you need a you don't need a so if you don't need a shear you should be with one who we don't want him to benefit from the sink water so he told him to do it again he holds holds there's no shear there's no shear And there's no bea. There's no bea either. So, but there's no shear. So, as long as I get you with one tiny drop, I I it's okay. So, on one time I'm going to say maybe I didn't get you at all with the drop, but there's no shear and there's no there's no the second time. That's why I tell you to do it twice to make sure it happens. You're asking me maybe twice in a row. Yeah, I hear that question. So now what does again? What does say just the two green ones there is and so I'm going to ask you it says not like that says explains and explains you just this is to explain this chart right over here explain what what's need to hit him twice says all you need there's no shear says no shear where does it say no shear There's no 10 milliliters. Even a little drop like what says this lines up with the rabbi lines up with the rebi does not does not line up with the rebi who's a if you have 50% kosher 50% non-cooser it's okay. So that's problem number one with and now a question on he says you have the the the blood of let's say with you're supposed to put above the red line and below the red line they both got mixed together beautiful question what does say take the blood and start from the top that's where always starts you take it from the top you sprinkle for hitting on top. You say, "Oh, it's water." And then you do the same thing on the bottom. Ask question. Look at he says, he's the only one out of the three that says that um microscopically it doesn't mix in. So what happened? You you sprinkle the water on top of the red line. Maybe you only sprinkled oil water. Uh blood. Maybe you only sprinkled below the red line. Blood. How do you know it's at all? There's no mixture. Maybe all the oil blood went to the bottom and all the in the cle. Did it mix in? Did it mix in well? Very, very simple. Look, look. Oh, we have we actually had a thing. Hold on. Yeah, I'll do this in just a second. Take a look. Here's the blood of the belongs above the red line. The blood of the belongs below the So, now they got mixed in. And what did he do? He poured and it's a mixture of red and blue. He goes ahead and pours the blood as maybe only poured blue out of the clay. Who said there's no mixture aim you according to Raashi you hold it doesn't mix in. So he punked you got the blue on top and the red on the bottom. So he says what happened was in this cle every there's you see four lines of blue and eight lines of red. Okay. There's four parts blue, eight parts red, whatever that means. Okay. Right. >> Yeah. So what happened was he poured onto the MB instead of he poured five parts of this clean by pouring five parts. He for sure got the four parts of the and one part of the there's no way he didn't do one part cuz he did he poured on the on the more blood than the has in that way he he puts above the red line enough all the whatever is let's say has 40 milliliters he does 50 milliliters so he did 40 plus 10. So he obviously got 10 milliliters of Kata's blood on top of the red line. This is a big question, but it says that when when you're done when you're done with the top, what do you do? You go to the bottom and you get credit for putting the blood below. But if you did 50 milliliters above the red line, that could include 100% of all the blood, 40 milll of blood, and it all went above the red line. So he had no blood left for below the red line. says, "No, you didn't understand. You got credit for you're supposed to pour on the bottom on the bottom. You got zero credit for which is a tremendous to me. To me, when I read it, it says like you get credit for and no, you read it wrong." And so we have a we have the same question in a different variation three times in a row. It's like almost same answer also says in the BR that price over there Let's say he put the blood on the bottom. He has a mixture. Puts it below the red line. Doesn't ask a question to the ro. You should repeat and do the same thing on top. And he gets credit for the bottom one. The problem is if you hold like says that there's no mixer. The blood doesn't mix. Maybe everything he put below the red line was blood that belongs above the red line. It doesn't mix. Well, yeah, you're right. It's talking about that he he put more blood than the other one has and he says that he gets credit for the bad ones. The only credit he get is for if he put it above the red line and didn't ask a question that he should go ahead and pour it on below the red line because below the red line could be for and you get credit for the above the red line and below the red. So what's the question if it doesn't mix in microscopically? So maybe what you put above the red line was blood same same he put enough above the red line which obviously includes a little bit of blood. It says that he gets credit for both. Does it say that that agree? No. What should you do? You should pour it in both. You should continue. You should put it on the bottom. You should put it on the bottom. It comes out that it's only according to that hold that there is a mixture. But according to that holds that they don't mix in together, then you get credit only for one. 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