CHAZARAH - Zevachim Daf 78 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] Good morning. We're holding by the brand new mission. We had this. We spoke about it. If there's a mixup between, right? Put it your pencil. We're talking about over here. You have the limbs of anah with the limbs of another that are if you put on the top of the one head, you went against the rules. You did it. You didn't ask. You didn't know that. You put it on. We're going to assume that the one that's on the is the therefore you're allowed to continue bringing all the other heads. What if you put all the four legs of one animal on top of the all the legs that you have over there? All the legs you to put onto the Let me ask you a question. What if you don't put all four legs on the bay? He only put three out of the four on the misb then what's the says you're supposed to put all four legs of one. If all four legs of one went on like the head put one head on. I could put all the heads on. I put all the legs on. [snorts] I could put I put the legs of one on all four. I could put the legs of all the animals over there. >> [snorts] >> this this trick that says that if one head went on to them, we we're going to assume that all heads are kosher. Why? Cuz the one that went on the mak is the one that's tra. We're going to assume make an assumption. We're going to go we're going to go the one that went on was we had the also When Rez said you put it on on we assume that it's the one that's that's because he's putting on two by two two at a time. Put one on by itself. Now not why because when you hold in your hand two says Rashi then one of them is for sure kosher. And if one of them is for sure kosher he says a ver like [clears throat] then there's a migu that the other one is also kosher. I would have said, you know, simpler. At least one of them is kosher. You look at each one, it could be the other one. No, that's not what he says. He says a little bit of a vert of amig all the way at the end of the mission. It says that if you have one left, do not put it onto them because that's the one that's the bad one. You rebar are going on a limb and you're saying that the first one was the bad one. We're going to say the last one is the bad one. So even if you put 10 on the misbeh the last one that's left do not put on. It might be the bad one. And what does Rezer hold? You're allowed to put the last one on, but it's not two. You're only putting one in one. Let's see over here what what he did here. Two heads. We're not going to go through the whole thing. Maybe it's not so accurate. That's the first one. That's how the Gumar understood one. You put one on and the Gmorra says, "No, it has to be two by two at a time." So, what do we do? Over here seems to be saying they could put one at a time. What does one mean? Don't take it literally. One, it's one. Yeah, it's one. One pair because we're talking about pairs. It goes by the look. So if you have blood that you're supposed to do on the with and it looks like blood even though that you mixed water into it, it's kosher. Even though you might have a majority of water, but it looks like good blood. Nice thick red blood. Kosher. Here's the whole right here. This line, and it's an amazing thing. What do you do if red blood mixes with red wine? Now you can't look at it. You can't see. You could put 20 gallons of red wine into one gallon of blood. It'll still look like blood. How you going to see? They have the same color. They both red. So says the Mishna one word here and that's the word of the means we pretend. We [clears throat] pretend that the the wine is water and if you put 10 gallons of water into one gallon of blood, it will dilute the blood and it'll be no good for haz. So, we're going to pretend that the 10 gallons of wine is actually 10 gallons of water. If you put one gallon of water with one gallon of blood, you won't be able to differentiate. So, if you put one gallon of red wine together with one gallon of blood, it's okay. We have to do it right. We have to go take this object because it's so it's so similar. That's the whole if two two objects that are very similar, red wine and red blood. We're going to take the red wine and pretend it's something else, not red wine. What would what would happen if this was something completely different? If this was a different liquid [snorts] general, a different liquid. It goes by what it looks like and and there's a certain amount. So, we're going to we're going to see what that is with water. And then we're going to do the same thing with wine. >> [snorts] >> What about in you take blood that's not appropriate for the at this point you have a from the as you went you took blood from outside the outside of the it wasn't a carbon not so what do you do now you have blood of mixed in with the blood of you pretend again once Again, you have red kaya blood, red behemoth blood got mixed in. So, let's see how much blood. Let's pretend that the blood is water. There's a few today that are just going to they're going to amaze you. Actually, this is this is one of them says you have 25 gallons of of kaya blood, venison blood, and one drop. You hear this always say one drop of kosher blood and that one drop is in the cle with the 25 gallons of kaya blood you could do with it. We're talking about your over here we're talking about blood mixed with blood that you cannot it's the same it's the same thing they're both bloods and you can't one. So you could you're it's for you to do the mitzvah of with that kind of ratio a million to one one drop of blood with a milliona you can do this. What if the blood is not that of a but that of something puzzle such as blood of pigle pigle happens with during one of the four actions of one out of the four doesn't have to be all four during the cabala he's thinking to himself either that he's going to eat this animal out outside the lot of time in 3 4 days from now or he's thinking that he's going to do the outside the lot of time that's two ways to to do to do pigle. So the blood becomes possible and it's mixed in with kosher blood. Non-cooser and kosher blood mixed together. What do you do? Where's the ammo? Here we go. This is the ammo. You pour it into like the drink system. Now let's review the arguments. If says what do you would say would say it's okay says that you have to get rid of it. It's more of a than anything else. What's damatis? We're supposed to do with damesh is the initial squirts of the blood. As long as this animal's alive when Revice was here, we have a good one of fish. You all know what he looks like. He said that uh he could differentiate you could see the difference in the color. There's a difference in color. Damage is when the thing is still alive. It's still moving around. Datamsis is he went to sleep. See that? It's supposed to be a little darker. The damage is a little darker. So if you're using which is no good for and it's mixed in with regular blood get rid of it says I don't have the it's okay another if he didn't go ask the what he should do with this blood the blood that the says he should pour it into the whole the whole thing is not it's so he did it fine it works If water spills into the blood, then we have this idea that it's kosher. If it looks like blood, then it's still kosher. That's because you have good blood and you introduce another liquid to it and that liquid becomes part of the blood. bottle. This is blood. So, we go like this. I pour a little blood into here. You don't really see anything. So, now this blood that fell into the water bottle. I'm going to have to pour a lot of bottle. Bottle. Each time I pour, it's bottle. It goes into the water, it becomes bottle. Now, oh, look what just happened. It started becoming red. But the problem is that in order for it to become red, I had to use the blood that was already inside this glass. And when it was in the glass, it was it was bottle. Eventually, when I get the final amount of blood in there, not wine, this is a bottle of blood. I get the final blood in there, it turned colors, and it's a good color. It's too late. You want to use blood that was already bottle before. It's not it doesn't wake up and become blood. Once it's bottled, it's bottle. It's finished. It's pushed off. So if you have blood that fell into water, this idea that we just said applies to to blood. But when it comes to a mitzvah, you don't push off a mitzvah. Mitzvah will awaken. So what happened here? We have a little video here. One, each one that goes in becomes bottled. That's what I just showed you. Okay. But when it comes to, let's move this to the side. When it comes to it's different. Why? It comes back to life. So here we have a a blood that's alive and well. Now it's tired. Goes to sleep. When you put it in, they're sleeping. [snorts] Each one is asleep. You put the final one in. They all come back to life. [music] So kadam is only for a kaya like a deer or that k that we just saw there and a bird a behemoth doesn't have ki. So when each drop of blood becomes bottle it does become bottle. I'm massing to you one drop of blood in in a bowl of of water is going to become bottle. When we get enough blood put together they come back to life. When it comes to like this color, whatever the color of blood is, then they reawaken. That's the word reawaken to perform the mitzvah. You're asking what's the difference? The difference is you cannot push off a mitzvah. Is a mitzvah does there's no mitzvah. There is. So if this was not the blood of this is the blood of a foram is it's let me pull this out. This is a kaz of this is a kaz of says a fascinating. You're not going to believe this. Adam see you about to eat this. They say, "Listen, if you eat this, you're going to get malus." They see you about to eat this. This is nisar, you're going to get malus. This is pigle, you're going to get malus. And you go ahead and eat both of them together. Says, they can't give you malus. You're going to get a big Hashem will take care of you. But a peasant can't do anything to you. Why? Because when you chew these two, this is what happens in your mouth. It's marbalized. It becomes there's a mix. There's a mix. And at a certain point, one of these two is going to be more than the other. You can't have exactly a perfect mix in your mouth. One of them is going to create like this ball right over here. Which one is more, the white or the the blue? I don't know. The purple, I don't know. This one of them is going to be 51% and the other one is going to be 49%. And the one that's 51% is the and the is going to be the even when it comes to an we're talking about one is going to overcome the other. And we don't know which one it is. Another story, Rabbi. So listen to this story. There's two men over here. Two men. There's a kid that was adopted. And they come and they tell the kid, you know, one of these two men is your dad. We don't we don't know who. Now, he has all this built-up anger his entire life. He always wanted to meet this guy that gave him up for adoption. As soon as he finds out, he takes out a stick and he's like, he said, "No, no, he's your father." So, he gives a whack on the head. And then he goes to the next guy. He says, "No, he's your father." Whack on the head. Does he get or not? Could we punish him? Could we give him alkus? The answer is exactly that's called when they said don't hit him, he's your father. They didn't know 100%. They said don't hit him, he's your father. They didn't know together one of them is the father 100%. But you don't get a punishment for that. The chewing wasn't. It's the swallowing putting the mouth. You don't get is and at one point one of them overcame the other. Had we known which one had they he said that oh the 51% is the and that's the one that's going to overcome fine but they didn't know says they take out the word because you don't really want three here you want two he ate them both mixed up he chewed them up and he swallowed it's impossible that one shouldn't have the roy over the other and v the other and therefore they couldn't give him the proper you see three things from here I thought it was fascinating that if you look around in shas you'll be very hardressed to find a place where it says oramino it's 90% of the time I'm not a bucking sh but I don't remember says This whole idea is because this 51% overcomes the 49%. And the is even you say not just in mitzvah in you say even when you have two is you say one of them goes away because it's the me there's two things that we always discuss that's but there's also what it tastes like which is what's shishimishim that there's no flavor because flavor even 1 and 60 160th will ruin it. So, >> oh, we're going to get there in a second. Over here, you have two different things. You have a noisy and a pigle. Can't you taste the noiser? Can't you taste the pigle? Why can't you taste a little bit of the nisar? And if you could taste a little bit of the nisar, even though the pigle is 51%, the noise is 49%. But I can taste the 49%. I taste it. That's it. It should be become aer. What's the obvious answer to that? That's what Arya said. What's the obvious answer? Don't say Arya. What's the obvious answer? We're talking about pigar. They taste the same exact. They're both pieces of meat, so you can't taste it. We're talking about a situation where you can't taste it. Then you go with the majority. This whole only goes according to himself always says throughout that if I don't know what I'm warning you about. I don't know which is you're about to do that's not here you have a guy who's has a gluten issue. He he only eats gluten-free. So he wants to he's making matzah maybe for pes. So he makes uh a rice a rice cake, but he wants to be of the mitzvah. So he throws in a little uh flour at the end, but he wants it to be most mainly he wants it to be mainly rice. He makes a whole concoction of wheat and rice. Flour and rice. is if it tastes a little bit like likeala like I say I mean like bread then you're ina you'd have to be you're not on rice cakes even though the majority of this thing is rice so over here how come the majority of the doesn't come and out the majority of the rice outdo the the wheat the flour and say that you from says you're right the only that we have here is you're really not because the majority is right says I thought you going to tell me that but think about the end of it says this is a perfect mah so how come if it's only how come you Good make. You could use it for matzah. You take a lot of rice and a little bit of flour and you're eating matzah. I'm eat says the answer that I said before. the other they taste the same. They're both pieces of meat. One is a noiser, one is a pigle, but they're both two types of meat. And therefore, I use the roy, which is a kula like a little bit more isatal. But when you have two types of food, you have wheat and rice. Then it goes by flavor, which is much much less. The flavor destroys it. It's like a little just a hint of of of wheat. says [snorts] question. This is an important question. This is basically the question of until the end of the we have two options when you have food. You have two options to be how do you get how do you nullify food either with the majority 51% versus 49% can nullify one could overcome the other like in this case the pagle overcomes the one is 51% one is 49%. or by taste. Asking more a bomb question [clears throat] if they look the same or taste the same. They taste the same. Two pieces of meat. So in this case, you don't go by taste cuz they taste the same. So what do you go by? Majority. So I need a tremendous amount to overcome this thing. But if I would go by taste, what would it be? A tiny amount. What did we say in the Mishna? Think about this. this idea of ryan. What does royan mean? If I have red wine and red blood, I don't know what to do. They're the same. So, what do I do? I pretend. I pretend that one of them is not wine. I pretend the wine is water. And then I start going, what would if it was water? What's the water? How much water do I need to nullify this blood? So, when you have two pieces of meat as why don't they use the same concept? Pretend one piece of meat is rice, a different food. And how much of that food do I need to taste it? Why am I going with majority? Do a pretend roy means let's pretend. In our mission, we see the idea of pretending. And it works with coloration and it works with flavor. It works with everything. When I have two items that are similar, red blood and red wine, what do I do? I can't differentiate. You know what I do? I pretend one of them is a different item. And I and if it's a different item, we know what the shear is. It's to dilute the blood. However much it takes to dilute, you're right. Red wine is not going to be able to dilute the blood, even a million gallons, cuz they're both the same color. Pretend one of them is different. So now, when it comes to flavor, let's do the same exact thing. I have a piece of steak that's one pound. I have another piece of steak that's one pound, and they weigh and they taste the same. Take the steak, take one steak out. Instead of saying, "Oh, you need a majority, which is nothing, which which is a lot. I'm sorry. You have to do a lot." Let's pretend one steak is not steak. What is it? >> Cucumbers. Chocolate. One steak is not steak. And let's see how much do you need of another item such as cucumbers to be able to tell the taste in that thing. When I when when my wife makes food, she puts in a one teaspoon of this and you taste it already. So a small amount is enough. You didn't only need a roy. A small amount whatever it is in another food. Why don't we say ry? And the brings out, why are you treating two pieces of the same food? Because they have the same flavor differently than one p than two pieces that are different flavors. How come they have different churim? Every time you come to a situation where they're the same, pretend one of them is not the same. And we see it in our mission. It's not if blood got mixed with wine. We pretend and we pretend one of them is is a different thing. So when we learned the we all thought and I asked the Israelis cuz they speak Hebrew and it comes easy for them. I said what's the Mishna? They thought like we explained what's the we take the wine and we pretend the wine is like water. No, says you didn't understand the the blood. This this is what we pretend is water. In other words, we go by on the blood, not on the wine. So says Gar. So what's why is the why is the mission even introduced the idea of pretend? Don't pretend anything. It's called what is that called? We're talking about a notion. You have a situation. You have a you have a uh a bucket. Pretend this is a bucket right over here. And in the bucket, this bucket is I want to be this bucket in the mikvah. And in the bucket, I have white wine. Rather, I have white. There was white wine in the kitchen. I don't know why. White wine. White wine looks like water. and it's in this cle and I want to dunk this cle in a mikvah. What do I do? Says the idea of what does mean? I pretend by the way what's the problem if there's white wine in this glass and I'm doing I'm putting in the mikah. What's the problem? >> So what is that called? >> It's called a problem. That's the rest of the actually if we're going to get to it. So it says This white wine turns into red wine. Same trick that we do before. If it was red wine and it is diluted to that it looks like water then the mikvah would be. So here you see that does do says the it's actually whether we use the idea of do we pretend you have a a bucket that has inside a white wine or milk here. He did a little um we don't really have time for this but has white wine in there. white I mean milk in there over here it says what we don't do we do a in other words if in this case is another liquid so it wouldn't be good because most of this is full but if it was below the the half point then it'll be okay Do we do or do we do have a wonderful day >> merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today mdysonsor.com [music] or sponsor at mdy.com.