CHAZARAH - Zevachim Daf 77 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

Good morning. We're holding on top of to remind we're talking about a fellow who's a or he thinks he's a ms. He's not even sure if he's a ms. He went to a cayenne and the kay told him something and he wasn't sure if the cayenne meant that he's a msl. basically it's not important for now but he he's doubting his um status. Thank you. He's doubting his status. He doesn't know if he's a real Ms or not. He forgot what the kind told him. So the Gar says what you do is you bring a carbon and a jar of oil and you stipulate say if I'm a mitsra my carbon is the ashams and the oil is if not I'm giving them both as uh an adava it's an adava the difference between an adava and the asham is the asham is kach kach you can only eat it for one day and aim you could eat it for two days. So the wants to bring a ra from here holds you're allowed to limit food. It's not a problem of limiting going into Bul saying that hey instead of two days eating it for you're making it one day as a that's not an issue according to so what do you do first the guy has to bring this oil question is more in the this is referring to the oil it's more complicated in step one is you bring the oil did he took the the thing made it into a one two you put the oil you first have to do kima to the oil according to so so one of the says I forgot who maybe here says you freeze it okay the problem is once you do kima the problem is that you're missing oil so you add oil and you make and then you do the sprinkle as if he's a matro and then you have to now the is going to ask but what about the extra oil that you added that came step three comes after Step two. So there's no step the kit was in step two on the added little amount of oil that you added to the jar. You didn't do on it. Seriously, the says that you do and step five, you you redeem it and then you get to eat it. Ask the if we're looking at the steps here. One, two, three. is that little bit amount of oil that you added and you didn't perform a kit to it. If you don't do a kit, you're not allowed to eat it. The the kit is the mat, as we call it. It allows you to eat it. When you go like this with your three fingers, right hand like this, that allows you to eat it. But there's a little bit of oil there that didn't get a kamita. So, you're right, the pariclay. So, what does the pariclay mean? You redeem it. So, I have a question for you. How can you redeem this oil? Where where is this oil? It's inside makes it on the spot. It makes it. It's inherently kadesh. Not doesn't have monetary. It has you can't redeem. So for that we need to see rashi beautiful rashi that tells us a massive. So if you just came for this, it's worth says it's not like you think says the it's not just you put it into poof magically becomes you need the guy to say I want to make it and he didn't. It's a night if I'm not. So he leaves it in a status of and he doesn't want it to be if he's not a so therefore he can't redeem it as three lines from the where exactly did he redeem it if he did it. Take a look at this little thing right over here. You have you have a a cle the kles in the full of oil and then you added a little bit of oil to it. So what status is the the oil in the kisharas? It's the if you're going to redeem it with money. You're going to take the little amount extra. You redeem that extra with money. So becomes cool. You're not allowed to bring into that Zoro and if you do it outside then you took him then you then >> it becomes parcel because you took the oil outside of the outside or it comes you can't bring the oil outside of so what do you do it's inside he didn't bring into the mdash this vessel was full of oil in the B of Mdash. He did a trick that he he changed his status from from to so it happened to be in the B of Md. in general. How could I come up with this whole then you bring the oil and you say if I'm a it's then it's an you can't bring oil as in according to says you could in a situation where I want to help a guy come out of his status he's he he's hanging there he doesn't know what to do he's in a dilemma he doesn't know sorry so we help him out says he asked a question then you know says you're not to do it. So how does it work? Doesn't help me if it's a he can't help an individual and be a he doesn't finish off. But obviously I think what he means to say is that it's not just said you shouldn't bring oil to he said ask the question let him bring one carbon instead of saying it's either asham orlim say it's an asham called asham tali it's a hanging asham look at this rashy people would ask what's what's up with the asham tali I could bring for nothing says yes where it says you could bring every single day of your life every person has some every single day and therefore and then rash continues and very important to us what did I gain by this what what did he gain he gained that you don't have We want to say this one animal is either asham or schlamim. What's the difference? The problem is asham can only eat one day. Schlam could eat two days. But if you make it ashami, they're both one day. It's a tali. You can only eat it one day. So you don't have maybe the whole what's the issue? How could you say it's aim and it's a two you eat it for two days or maybe limit it to one day. At the end of the day you only be able to eat it for one day. That's limiting something you can eat for two days to one day and that's awesome. This may be now that I'm saying don't bring ashum bring asham. Don't bring a bring ashamali. Ashamali is only one day to begin with regardless whether it's the or the tali. It's one day asham. It's 100% asham. It's ashamali. Yeah. Yeah. What's ashamali? Ashamal is I'm bringing this animal and I said depends if I did an a or not. If I didn't it's goes for for my ao and and why should I bring it? Because you make a every you speak lot this that you make fun of the of the mach what whatever you have to bring a you have to bring a carbon or it's made from so it's the same exact carbon so must be arguing the it's not he says this all he asked the question why do you have to talk about he had in mind it's either this or that just say you had in mind that it's What's going to be with you? You have so much. You're such a Doesn't make sense to make such a simple mistake. You're supposedly a big You're making you're confusing the sheep with a ram. A sheep is less than a year old and a ram is a year in a in a in a month. It's two different types of carbonas. How are you making such a mistake? Asham, a matra brings under a year. Asham tali is a different type of carbon completely. You should have known that. I can't believe you messed up between a sheep and a and a ram. Says the Mishna. We have limbs. The limb of a katas with the limb of an So, let's think about it a second. Pause. Everything goes on the All limbs gobbas. No, they don't go on the muzz. Certain things go there. M go on. The rest go to the Are you permitted? Are you hear the question? Are you permitted? The is not in the mood of eating the the steak. Are you permitted to put the meat on top of the misbeh? >> Absolutely not. You're not allowed to. Question is now I have a mixup. I have stakes of katas, stakes of and they're all in one pile. What do I do now? not to put it on the so now the is missing out to put it on the I'm not allowed because it's what do you do so we have a not a problem put it on the and we have a trick we're going to be using for the rest of the we actually had it yesterday in the video as well where the guy you seen the video he pours water he's pouring the oil he pretends in his mind that it's that it's water that it's wood. Rashi says it's water, right? The last rashi you pointed out. Uh over here, we're going to do the same thing. He's going to put the meat on the He's going to put the the for sure belongs in the but the wherever you are in this plate. Whatever I'm I'm flipping you into wood to help the fire. You're not a carbon. You're wood. There's nothing you can do about it. You have to wait until they there's overnight they become my time. What's reasoning over here? Why does Revel say you could put it on the and pretend it's wood? Oh my for this we must see these. Very very important to see this two over here. We're talking about you bring what do you do with you bring it you go to the you do the you touch the with it but the says what's with a sin >> leaven like bread now I put bread on the honey what does honey mean you can't put honey on the >> it means like date honey it means it really means fruit can't put fruit on the can't bring ohm I want to bring you a basket of fruit. That doesn't work. But what does the next say? This is super important for the it's not so it's not so clear when you read the words here is referring to something else completely. It's referring to leftover carbon. We actually touched upon it the other day. When you put something on, whatever is left over, it's too late. It gets locked out. I put this on. Great. But it can't come 10 minutes later. Oh, I forgot the leg. Let me put that on. Too late. So says the leftover we're talking about now the leftover of the carbon I cannot put it on as a carbon correct says don't put it on the here but no don't bring it to Hashem don't say hashem here I brought you another another steak but you could say I'm not bringing hashem a I'm bringing firewood that you could do is referring to those two. Those two, those two you can't bring on for but you're allowed to bring them on as firewood. I could bring a a platter of fruit that my friend gave me for Shabas. I could bring it as a as firewood, but not as a carbon, but not shiari carbon, but not leftover carbon. You see why it's a little tricky this because it doesn't mention the carbon. That's the here the the the the over here is to understand we're talking about the remnants of the carbon. You can't bring the leftover carb even for what? Even asim. That's the nuda here. The rabban say you could bring Yeah, you're right. There's a concept called flipping honey into wood, but that's only honey. It's only fruit. It doesn't apply to animals. You can't make a a katus into firewood. You can make bread and fruit. Those are the two things that you can flip into into firewood. That's it. And we have the I have that got mixed up with says I could put on as firewood because the Torah says I could put anything as firewood. Say no no no it's limited to two things. So this is a side. No, I I use the word but for something completely different that the ramp going up to the we'll give it of that's only for if you put it on the ramp you're but if but anything else the ramp is not it's not connected it's it's separate it's the ramp to the it's not the actual not when it comes to no I could learn this of the ramp I could also learn from the word not only that it's that is wood but also is a ramp. The ramp works for the vash and not for anything else. Our in fact the following also are not like this. Everything we just read says I argue with there is no between if our case what was our case or got mixed up says I disagree there's no everybody agrees put it on he argues with the straight out and they also don't argue If you have an animal that was involved in, you don't put it on the which is the next Mishna. He argues on the next Mishna also cuz I'll remind you the next Mishna. We learned the next Mishna already. If you have a mixup in a you have a that has a terrible blemish and a that's perfect and they get mixed up, what do you do? So he's saying this is you could just go ahead and put it on and pretend it's firewood. The one that has a blemish is firewood. But we learned only if you put on one head could you continue putting on the rest of the heads cuz we're going to assume that the head that you put on is the blemished one. That's how we learned it. And that's what it says in our b. But you says no you can put it on. Forget if you after the fact put it on. We're going to assume that was the one. No, forget about after the fact. Take the blemished oil. You don't know it's blemished. Put it on just in case it's blemished. It's firewood. I pretend it is firewood. Say do not put it on. You're telling me that water according to even agrees that if the if the animals involved iniality cannot go on the why it's not is there a difference between a and to me yeah what it's it's more than something which is not >> that's what I thought also I was like when I learned I like wait a minute this is disgustingly disgusting but you know what at the end of the day a balm is also a mo is going to say the word moal as also So I'll tell you the one thing I was able to to to come up with a little bit is that I'm you want to make there's no healing once it was forget it for the rest of his life is ava it could heal you have a right now that is but it could heal technically so we'll see depends what it is >> okay but the most >> yeah I guess hold on hold on let's just read We're talking about a cataract. It's not a real m of of uh of uh here. Do I have this? >> No, nothing. Okay. So, what's what dukay changed history? the whole they brought a carbon. >> Yeah. >> That's the idea. >> Yeah. We all remember the video that the the cataract is if it goes onto the onto the you don't take it off is only talking about in a situation when you don't have to take it off. He didn't say go ahead and put it on the says we're talking about that it got onto the we were talking about before it's on the ramp and if it's on the ramp you just move it over and you bring it to the this this this uh this mixup happened it's on the ramp why do you have to say there's a mixup between the balum and this uh this me the regular even if it's all by itself a balm is on the ramp you could put it on but without a mixup it's not you put on the ramp put it back onto you can't put it on the on the on the because it says if it's by itself only if it's mixed into regular could you go ahead and put it on the but if it's by itself I do learn something from the word but something completely different I think is a tremendous you have an animal you're not allowed to put it on them nevertheless if it heals you could bring there's no over here's the real quickly it seems like a double so I have extra word no it's not extra for them so you can't dash in says, "Why do you have to pretend that this balm is wood?" I pretend, oh, the balm is wood. When the Torah says you're allowed to put on the Tory says you put on the B, you don't have to think that it's wood. The didn't tell you what to think. Put on the You're right. 100%. You don't according to your don't have to think anything. According to me, I don't have to pretend that it's wood. Put it on. Shouldn't you agree with me? There's a trick even though according to you the doesn't say you can put on but I have a trick that it's wood and it will turn into will turn into wood. You already use that trick when you mix up and and and and you you pretend that the is wood and over there agree. You hear this is it's disgusting. When there's a mix between that's why you're allowed to put it on the side. Have a wonderful day. Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today. mdysponsor.com or sponsor atmop.com.