CHAZARAH - Zevachim Daf 71 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

Good morning. Those to all the monthly people which help us a lot. We open registration for the monthlies. And I think tonight that that means that everybody that's a monthly got a email with a code. There's one code per person. So you get chance to get your room. Tonight I believe we are going to open it up for all those who were there last year. And then after that it's going to be open for everybody. We're holding the we're going to do something. I don't know if we we have done it before. We are going to go through four of how do I know that when a cow dies naturally gets hit by a car that it's fat the part is not to interesting right the whole body is to that one part of that the fat that covers the the bottom over there the the picture that we have of visor is holding up the fat that the says you can do whatever you want with this fat but you shouldn't eat it. The is saying it's not you don't become tummy from it. Who told you what the who told you? What does it say in the puzz that we're talking about a kosher animal? Maybe he's talking about a non-coosher animal like a camel. And the Torah is saying that the fat of a non-coosher animal is not amusl through I could an animal and even if I find out that it has holes in its heart, it's tar. So that I did by a a kosher animal. And I said that a a kosher animal that's I said this only by a kosher animal and not by oh it makes sense that we're talking about a kosher animal. No. Now listen, I want you to read this this line. If you have an article, don't look inside the article. If you look inside the answer, you can't answer. And don't look in rashy. Listen this. You're all looking now. The said that. >> Yeah, I thought I said that. We could go a different direction. You can do it differently. Same logic, a little different. The said of the Tyra said that a animal is we're talking about a tummy animal that's what is going on here where what case did we ever say that a a tummy animal the the carcass of a tummy animal like a lion got ran over where did we ever say that it's tar I don't remember such a The Gumar says it made in the veil a dead rhinoceros elephant lion they're all and that only applies to the tummy animal. So we must say that the gar is not talking about an animal. Now we must say we switched without telling us we switched now to a bird. A bird. >> Oh now it makes a lot of sense. No, it doesn't have to go just your the head. I think these means anyway the a bird a non-cosher bird is tar that that you said Joey that you touch a non-coosher bird a dead raven on your porch. That's what it means here. There's tuma in a kosher bird and no tum in a non-coosher bird. So let's read it again. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm I didn't say touch. They said there's tum in a non-coosher bird. There's tum in a kosher bird and not there's no tum in a non-culture bird. How through and not through what of a bird it's a non-coosher bird but that doesn't apply to a kosher bird. As we said a kosher bird will be if you swallow it. So too when the says that maybe I could go that direction a second ago we were saying that it comes to say that a kosher animal it's now I'm saying that a non-cos animal we have a better way we have a we're getting there if you're going to go well if we're going to learn the first way we learned then going to come to the conclusion that the fat the I should say really is right the of a to animal is and if we go with the second route we learn from a bird then we're going to come out to conclusion that the fat of a animal is so what do I do I could go either direction which one do I do it makes a lot of sense now since the say that's a word that we used yesterday a bunch of times differently in the word the say there There is no such concept of a of a lion that's a tra who cares if he's if he has a hole in his heart. The whole idea of is only by kosher animals. So since the is saying the word so the this whole idea of the is obviously talking about a kosher animal. Okay. So just just again I think it's a little confusing. The fat of a kosher animal is always tar. Even ran over by a car, shot by a gun, doesn't matter. Always tar. Especially if you did, it's tar. The fat of a kosher kaya such as a deer, a buffalo, uh a wilderbeast, if they're kosher, >> then it depends. If you it then >> the fat is kosher is tar. If you don't check it, if it dies naturally, got hit by a car, shot by a gun, then the fat would be to so I should take out a a a non-cooser animal. non doesn't have but does have the idea of the double here in the I'll show you real quickly says so the double where you're not allowed to eat it ever but you're allowed to eat It's meat and this is it's it's a little tricky. There's five words here. But this is how we learn this which it's meat is and so is it. So when the meat is the it's a it's a crazy it's a hard >> I have bad news for you guys. Only four lines left to the according to what you just said. This is this line over here. If you go back to you'll see what is saying this is what I asked you to read over there according to what you're telling me. Let's read the line again. He read it like like I was asking you to read before art scroll before ashi. Read it again. two lines on the bottom. You said that an animal that's tom is I'm sorry to animal meaning a lion is tar. So he asks him I don't understand doesn't make sense. A dead lion is tar. A dead cow is Tommy. You know how many got mixed up over here. Tommy, you're right. It's a little tricky. The flow doesn't flow well cuz we're talking about a a dead animal and all a sudden we're talking about a dead bird. It's hard to And that was the whole yesterday. You go back forth bird animal but that's it. If you made the mistake, you're not the only one. Shabish. There's a lot of elders that got confused over here. We're not talking about a behem. We're talking about a and that everybody knows clear. A non-coosher dead eagle is touch it. A dead pigeon has it. If you eat it, it's time to wake up. Now, here goes the easy stuff. So, again, what's the what's the idea? You take your thumb in the bdash with the nail. You go through the back of the head of the bird says Rayor. Yeah. Here you want to see only Rare >> and but only Remair says that Malik removes the toma from the bird. Even if you do a what is it called you? How do you say? Uh >> autopsy. >> Autopsy. and you find that it has a hole in the heart this bird not to why because Malik has the power to get rid of the tum. So he says, "Wait a minute, stop. This tra and it's if you have a pencil, write the word right over here and this whole is talking about a traa. We have to stick that in. There's a tra and you did malik. That's provided that you don't see an outwardly. Let's say it's blind. Let's say it's missing a wing. Let's say it's missing a leg. Then this trick doesn't work. The malik is not going to work. That's a it's a traa inside but it's whole on the outside. If you have a combination of plus it's missing an eye then the malik is not going to work the malik works. Even that's caseamal listen to this boy. This is unbelievable. What kind of au listen look look at this picture. Even if you do malik to to a duck. Now what connection does a duck have to the b mikdash? You can't bring a duck to the b mikdash. >> Malika to to a duck and a goose >> and a chicken in the bdash. A person brings a chicken. He says it's a bal. So let me ask you something here. Let me ask you. What if I do malik to a goat? I have a very very strong thumb and a nail. I do malika to a goat. >> Is that good? >> Why is it not good? It's good on a goat. >> Hey, now it's good on a on a on a duck. >> Off only. >> Huh? >> Off only. >> Off only. He says off only. >> Okay. So, I have another question. >> This the Kaz discusses. What if I I'm supposed to chop off a calf's head with a with a with a knife? With a what is it called? That sharp >> cleaver. a cleaver >> and instead of chopping off a calf, I chop off the goat's neck. Do I remove the tom? Now, I know it's not kosher cuz the the the calf by the by the egg roof. I'm talking about egglar roof, I'm supposed to bring a calf. I'm supposed to chop its head off. And when I chop it head off, it removes the tuma from this animal. I didn't chop off a I didn't have a calf, so I brought a goat. Chop. It's similar to this. Why? I I did a malikica instead of to a pigeon. I did it to a duck. So instead of chopping off the head of a calf, I chopped off the head of a goat. Does it work? >> Not at all. >> So, okay. >> Now we go in the gimaria orfah. What if you chop off the head of here? We even have a little bit of a video here. This is when what you're supposed to do. You bring the the calf to you bring it to some sort of river and you do that. Now the question is so that's what you're supposed to do. You find a body and you don't know if it belongs to this city to this city. So the the peasant comes they measure and then they do a whole thing. They bring a a camp and they say you're dating. Okay. And then he instead they did it to a goat here goat. You just go to him. Maybe it's different. It's in the same category. They're both birds. It's a different type of bird. But what connection does a goat have to a calf? Or perhaps it's still it's still a says, "Wait a minute. You're making you're asking me a question. You you're assuming that if you chop off the head of a eggla, it removes the tum, right? Because that's the whole question. No never thought for a second that if you chop off the goat's head, you're allowed to eat it. You're not allowed to eat the the the calf's meat. So what? Yes. Chop off the calf's head, which is also No, but there's no tuma. So what if I chop off the goat's head? Maybe I can remove the tuma like that. That was the whole question. But I'm removing the tuma. says, "Wait a minute. You assume that there's no to after you chop off the calf's head, and that's why you're asking me, do you remove the tomb from a goat?" Yes, it's why it says the wordap means just like carbon after you shaft it, there's no toma. So, it's a it removes the toma. Interesting. Yeah. The father of what I learn from this that the of this I need a special to tell me that the the fats of this are that there's no there's no tuma on this on this fat. You shouldn't eat it. You're allowed to you're allowed to use the fat. You can make candles out of it. also this tells me that it's use in a situation where it's to eat and it's if you have the that we're going to actually have in the acts that killed a human being let's say and you have to kill him it's how do you know that it's not even It's also you're permitted to not permitted but it's not mama no tum as the bomb question. Why do I need a Pik to tell me that the is not if the whole body of the whole thing the meat is not? Why would I think for a second that the islar if the is like you're telling me you told me that when you do you chop off the head it's and you're asking me if a goat you chop off that it's taring I need a to tell me that the whole entire 95% of the egg is tar and I would think that the fat in it is and for that I need a why would I ever think that says you're right if you do the if you get to the point that you use the cleaver. You chop the head off. Then it's part that it start there and you you didn't realize that you have to use a cleaver. You did a now it's considered an it's asking why is it an aita? We said that according to everybody nobody argues that if you do even to an animal that has a tra everything works to make it not. So I come over here by the by the uh it doesn't work. You're right. Okay. It's dra dead. The water was and it dropped dead and you should know that the is still even though it's also why is it also no? The first question you should ask why is it also no? What happened? You bring a little calf. You didn't you weren't able to do the cleaver. You didn't chop its head off. It drops dead. It's also bad. No. Why? >> What makes it react? >> Oh what makes it? I said it's so from the moment I said it's no. >> Oh, so says you tell me that when it's alive it's also in Yes. The guy says there's a certain point in time where it turns into and they they they looked my friends looked into it and they figured out as soon as you bring it down into the river that's when it gets >> that's when it gets a shame and even if it drops dead by itself it's but its fat is says the fat is not it's says the here it has to be something extreme like a that its owner died or one of the five that must die there this is uh you know Dr. Dr. Epste didn't like it seven years ago, he's not going to like it today. But when we were discussing this idea, it's it's a hard idea to to swallow that if there's a kas that its owner died before he had a guy that's dying. He's a dying person and he says, "You know what? Let me do chu real quickly." He goes and he buys a he's not able to make it. He dies. The lives now what you take no in the room. Yeah, it's two different things. Not to get confused. You actually stuff it with Kev land. You let it get a broken leg and then you redeem it. That's something else. Over here, you take it, put it into a room >> and you let it do what it needs to do by itself. You don't feed it or give it anything to drink. It's a terrible thing. But that's what these five right over here. the the baby of if you do if the owner dies the the sim is and if it ran away and the the the owner brought another instead and then he found it and it's too old. So one of these got mixed into a giant pen of other animals that are kosher. All of them that is the got mixed in to a giant. So imagine one gets involved over there. So they all have to die. Now we're moving on to another case. Now we're talking about a a a type of animal that you can't bring to the B mikdash. It's not as severe as which is but it got mixed in to then happened to it for instance I don't know if the word is they take it out that what so we had a we discussed this many times that if a bull kills a human being it's like a human being killing another human being you need two and you need a Sanhedrin of 23 you can't just decide on your own to kill this bull But over here we only have one aid. >> So this this guy is is also this is a a beautiful thing. If the owner himself says my axe killed a human being, my axe killed the next door neighbor. You can't kill him. Why? Why can't you kill him? Beautiful because the whole idea of killing this animal if you admit to a a penalty like that we have an animal that act did a an act to a human being or a human being did an act to it and there's a whole the interesting thing if there's an animal that was nearby you allowed to eat it there's no there's no Sanhedrin that could kill it the bach says there's a whole thing the the bach goes into it it's better But it could be he could this is talking about that a person designated an animal said I want this to be my in the future or he actually bowed to it means that a a z took payment she took a sheep as payment that sheep cannot be a carbon means and this is interesting because you know we had a dog in our house back in the day he's still alive in California But if you buy you buy a dog, you go to uh what do they call them? The breeders. You go to the breeder, you give him a sheep and you take a dog. So the breeder cannot bring that sheep to the bdash. It was in exchange for a dog. And that's also means you have a goat and a sheep that had a offspring that you're not allowed to bring to them with. We learned the whole thing about the hole in the heart. Here's hole in the heart. Dan, an animal born through ceserian yuachi. So you send him to land maybe to turn off the volume. We'll go in. So they go to land, you break a leg, then you sell them. You take the money from the sale and you buy with the most expensive one, whatever the most expensive animal was. I don't know, maybe the the most expensive one was my animal. So, let's say it's $1,000. I spend $1,000 on the new one. Interesting. You take a carbon and it gets mixed in with another five non-curban. Now, what do I do? So, you It's very simple. Let's say it's an Listen to this. You go to the B mikdash. There are people there that want to bring. They're not going to shle a sheep to the B of Mikdash all the way from from so you bring all your sheep there and you you make a maybe you give a discount you say listen if you're planning on bringing buy from me you cannot use my sheep for because one of them is I don't know which one it is there some of them that are complete but you have to use all six for an you sell one to this guy one to that guy you sell to different people and like this you get rid of your You sell it for that that purpose only for that for the let's say two types of kachum got mixed up like and two got mixed up but one is rubins one is shimsino the same the same by the way right we said it's very dangerous to to to bring it as a carbon for somebody else that's so in let's say so the the the puts it on his back and it says whoever is the owner he should get the the the credit let's say you have two types of gets mixed up with now what's the problem with I'm thinking because rashy over here says but they all discuss it that is is probably a mistake there's a big problem with rashy in general here whether it's rashy or not some say it's not even rashy There's another rash. You'll see there's if you have in the it says over here it's more. The point is it doesn't matter. Rash is let's call it for a second. Why the the idea is that the mat and are different and doesn't make sense. How many do you do for say? Does anybody remember? >> Two that are four. How many you do for two that are four. That's why it doesn't really make sense. We're trying to get to a different type of you have to give four times four corners and therefore I can't say oh if it's and if it's no it's a different it's a different type of a whoa we're going running late here. So what do you do? Then you do the the Kevlant thing. You let it graze until it befalls. You must purchase with the most expensive type of animal that you have over there. You don't know what you There's a $500 lamb and $1,000 lamb. You have to buy two $1,000 lambs. You have to pay the most. You have to take it out of your own pocket. Should we should we keep this for tomorrow? It's already I can't just finish the if an got mixed in with an got mixed up with a By the way, I forgot to say Rash says in the beginning of the mission it's one and one over here in the beginning of the mission was 10,0001. Then the second case he went to 101. So said there's a special when it comes to that you have to be careful how you how you sell it. You can't sell it in a butcher shop. You can't check in a butcher shop and you cannot weigh the meat only by because it's privately owned. But if it's kim you're allowed to you're allowed to put it on a scale. Why? Because you're going to get more money as a question. I'll say it real quickly in 10 seconds. You understand? Under understand asked. But at the end of the day, the B mikd is going to lose money if I don't weigh this. Let the mdish gain for it. Yeah. But I don't do something wrong to so that could gain another carbon. 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