CHAZARAH - Zevachim Daf 68 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

Amazing. Today, yesterday we're talking about if a person takes an from above the red line on the and takes the bird and puts it on the bottom says I'm he does a he only cuts one out of the two. He does a and is because he took it from above the red line and put it below the red line. says, "If you want to see it inside, it's the last lines on it." He moved it to the bottom and he did it like a It walks like a duck, talks like a duck, smells like a duck, acts like a duck. We're going to change it into a duck. Even though it's a bull, it happens to be. We're going to change it now. As soon as he got there and he did one here, check this out. It's an but he punctures one simmon. Boom. It turns into a forget the slide three. It doesn't matter. Slide three or step three. Here we go. Is it true? Let me spoil everything. Is it true that Yeshua says that turns into how could that be? The garra brings a Mishna and Kenim. It doesn't make sense. And the Gar answers all these cases. But at the end of the day, the Gar says didn't really mean that it turns it 100% of the somewhat into enough that if a uses it, he won't be but not enough that you don't have to bring a not enough that that it's a good. Okay, that's the end of the gar all the way at the end. But before we get to the end, we're going to go through the entire sort of especially the last Mishna which has a lot of cool cases. So it says more like this. Here we go. So right. So these are the three things that says that you need to do in order to switch it from. And here we go. We have two women and Leia. They together they already brought an andas. When a woman gives birth she has to bring two. She actually has to bring it an animal and a bird. If she doesn't have money she brings two birds. One is an one is a katas. between the two of them. Rahul brought an Leia brought a katus. Doesn't really matter what they brought, but let's just say for let's keep it streamlined brings the Leia brings the katus. What does each one owe? So it says over here in the chart, Leia owes the she didn't bring an R owes the she didn't bring yet. Takes the Cayenne and he takes them both. He doesn't realize he makes a mistake. We're talking about people that have severe severe ADD today. Today's add the cayenne messes up. Instead of putting one on the top, one on the bottom, instead of taking the kas, putting it on the bottom where it belongs, he takes the katus and puts on the top. What's the no good? What if he reversed it? Put both of them on the bottom. Is not good. Very good. Basically, that's the end of the if you know that you got the whole thing. If he did both of them on top, one is kosher, one is not kosher. Obviously, the that belongs on top is kosher. The belongs in the bottom is not kosher. It's the opposite. If you put the on the bottom, I'm sorry, the on the bottom, then the isle. The obvious question is boy said what's the obvious question according to if you take and put it on the bottom it's good just switch oh now this is the question really over here now over here he doesn't know what he did he doesn't know what put where so we have to take the worst case scenario put the on the top and the oil on the bottom right we don't know we don't know which one is what so it's very possible he put the oil on the bottom so what if you took the oil and you put on the bottom according to Why? Why can't it flip into says? Listen to this. It's so easy to answer. When you hear the answer, you're not going to understand the question. What do you want to do? Want to take this make it into who owes? Who owes? Why does Katas? Cuz she brought already anah. What did Leia bring before a katas? And she she owes. So you're telling me her that she owes that she brought to the B mikdash should turn into and give it to who? Give it to Raul. It's hers. It's Leia's. What are you doing? Here, take a look. It's an Where does the belong? It's by It belongs to Leia. You can't take Leia's thing and say, "Let's turn it into and give it to Rahul." That makes no sense. It's not owned by Rahul. Why should Rahul get somebody else's katas? If it was ra and you took and you put it on the bottom. Okay. So you switched it into let use it for you. You want to take Leia's cuz Leia brought another because she knows she owes right. Leia is the one that brought a katas and she now owes and she right that's how the whole case started. She she brought in to the B mikdash and brought a to mdash and the co got mixed up with the two. So you want to take flip it into like and give it over to doesn't work like that. Again, what does says a person brought an he gave it to the cayenne and the cayenne was supposed to take it and she and do malik above the red line. The cayenne in its forgetfulness, he brought it on the bottom. He thought it's a kas. It's not the first one he's doing that day. It's like a >> assembly line. >> Assembly line. He keeps on going and going. He thought it's he brings to the bottom mika. What's the problem? According to Yeshua, there's no problem. You take an you could actually morph it. Yeah, that was the used yesterday. Morph, it morphs from a You don't like the It goes from into Why? Now it gets super interesting. We have we have a woman. We have two women and they both bring two sets of birds to the B mikdash. Why? Rajie explains I said yesterday they g to give birth to two children each. Raj says simple she they gave birth while they were a zava. A za as is has to bring two birds. So she also gave birth while she had to bring two birds. So she owes four birds now. Two for the zea, two for >> the birth. The kingdom is a buildup. It's a build. We're building one case on top of the other case. We're continuing from the case before we started easy. They came to mdash. They brought brought brought and now they owe one and one. Now they're going to owe one and one plus two and two for the zea. They each each going to owe three. So what do they do? These uh now the the trick this is this is a a maka of riddles. If I were to ask you literally I'm I'm serious. Uh two women have to bring six birds. Ai kamyanski mix it up for me the best you can. What's the worst thing you could do to mix it up for the Kim? So, here they came up with an idea. The tan it's it's pretty no seriously it's it's it's it's Leia brought a and bought because that's what she owes and brought. That's great. Then they brought one pier. >> No, no, no. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, time out. They each gave one let's talk one case at a time they owe they each owe fine but for the let's call the for the for the birth for the birth let's say they owe us for the birth and owes for the birth and the zebo put aside so now >> yeah yeah but let's let's go step by step step they already brought one so to to to finish their their their lea they're going to bring Look, Leia is going to bring the to finish up her part. Now, the two of them together. Oh, another four. Two and two. It's another because they're z. So, they go and they bring one set of birds, not designating it at all, not who the owner is and not what it is. They give it to the kayen. you do whatever you want because the cayenne has the power to make it a for you can do whatever he wants only if they're they're available to do that to in other words if the women at the time that they purchased those birds said this is my so it says at the time of purchase the next time that you could designate it is the kay himself he could designate it when he's performing the so over here he gave two stom anonymous birds the ones in the middle he could do whatever he wants whatever decides it goes and also it wouldn't work. Why? Because they already designated a third set that this one is but they forgot to mention who who's the owner of it. So now we have three basically they threw in three cases into one case. >> No, no, no. The third says for the ze. The four on the left mendy are for the zea. The two on the right I'm just throwing it out. We got to break it down. The two on the right are to finish off the lea which they started already. They already gave the two birds to the ken. They come back the next day and they say, "Okay, here's our six that we owe." Two of them, this is this is Leia's. These are the kind going crazy. Two of them say the name of the woman and what it is. Two of them say what it is, but without a name of a woman. Two of them don't say anything. Nothing. And of course, everything got mixed up. Now, what should what should the kind do in this case? What should the kind do right now? What's the best way for him to do it? He takes the where it is for he takes the for no for for the for the for fine. He does what he's supposed to do. Is it mixed up over here? Yeah, it's mixed up over here. Okay. The goes for it doesn't matter. He should take each one the way they designated for each lady and put it on. The next one the two he should do one not mention a word for who and it'll go for whoever needs it and also the just as a don't say ladies names it'll just it'll work its way out each one got a two kat two and they go home but he didn't do it like that what did he do leia this is what she owes she owes one kas two it's very important to remember this we can remember one woman if you want what is what is ra one Remember brought an oil in the beginning. So she owes one, two. Why? Cuz she's a Z also. Doesn't matter why. This is what she owes. The other woman owes the opposite. Two, one. But they each owe three birds because they already brought two birds. One, one. So two bird it was. It started out with eight birds. They each ow they together they owed eight. They brought one. So now they owe six. Let's just remember. Let's say and two. So now the coin goes, this is super easy cuz he takes all six and puts them on top of the red line. So what's going to happen? All the are garbage because belongs below the red line. So let's see what happens. Every in this case, including the middle one, there's no X there, but all the bye-bye. All the are good. So again ra owes how much? One two katas but she just got a she owes two katas and she owes one katas because all the were good. Fine. What if you do the reverse? So the reverse happens in other words. Okay. So now he put all six below the red line. So all the are no good. All the are good. Very good. And therefore in this case I don't know what just happened. Great. >> Whatever you owe, you owe. And you go all the you get rid of. And whoever owes owes. If you owe two, you bring two. What if? What if it's get? We're not done. What if he does half on top, half on the bottom? So now we don't know what he put on top. We don't know what he put on the bottom. So let's assume the worst. So we put a stryal on these guys. We're going to assume that he just happened to put by mistake all the is on the bottom and all the on the top. So what's going to happen? >> Well, everything should go bye-bye. Everything should be possible because the went below the red line. The went above the line. Those are the stomis though are good because the stomis they're nothing. We don't know if it's and the the as he does it he he decides so what should be the all these guys are bad these guys are sorry these guys are good the ones the anonymous guys in the center they're good cuz they had no designation at all if he did all six of them on top of the red line so the problem is the what do you do with no good Apostle the theas are good the are not good all below the red line all the are good all the are not good you take each pair and you separate the pier now we don't know what's what the two in the center which never had a designation those are kosher we do we we don't know exact ly who what's what. So when the women repurchase, they go to the store and they buy let's say two more. For example, they're going to have to be buy a lot more. But the two that they buy for the students, they'll make a condition. If if my mine was the on top, so the bird I'm buying now is going to be the and if yours is the the on the bottom, you they make a condition and they divide it because the two two out of the six are are good. Now the question of the gumar is only on the left side not on the right side. The right side the ones on the right we already know that one is owned by one is owned by Leia. So now even if you says they could flip into it's not going to help me at all because it's owned by Leia. Leia owns the like we said before. So even if you take Leia's and flip it into Ra can't use it. It's Leia's. So forget about the right side. The problem is the left side. The left side we don't have an owner. We we have a and without an owner. Nobody designated this rul this is leas. It's no one's. It's it's up in the air. But it is a it is. So the question is on the guy in the bottom here. Let me just show you which one I'm talking about. This one right over here. I made a circle around him. The left bottom corner. He was in a let's say worst case scenario he was anah he belonged above the red line and the ken took him if he's a katas so it's perfect he's a katas so you could use him it's not it's not an x it's a check but if he's a you tell me he should have been on top of the red line but he's on below the red line he turned into what's the problem according to you could take anah and turn him into why did he say that all the birds on the right and the left are pled just the ones in the middle of kosher the one on the bottom left corner used to be an but today guess what he morphed into great tell me you know what okay it's a great cash it's so good we don't hold like you can't say that right Right. Right. So now I'm going to prove to you. I'm going to bring you the last Mishna of Kenim, which basically goes until the Mishna, which is like about 10 lines, 15 lines, let's call it. And now I'm going to add even more confusion. It's but it's not complicated. You're asking to me that if you just hold cup, it's it's it's okay. So, and then all we're all we're doing is bring that Mishna, the last Mishna of Kenim, and it's going to say, "Oh, he throws in a mush." Throws a mush. This is like a a ram. It's like a ram. Why is saying it? Because he he he greets to the whole Mishna. He's part of it. Maybe he even wrote it. I don't know what. Oh my This is mish like a ram. That's what the says and then answers no don't worry about it. It is but it works with here we go. So she she says like this you give me a boy I'll bring I'm poor like anything. I can't even afford a sheep. I'm bringing birds instead of a sheep. But you know what for you? Just give me a boy. Give me a boy. What if you do? Give me a boy. I can't come home with a girl. Give me a boy. If you do, I'm going to bring two more. I'm going to bring a pair. A ken. A ken is a pair. Now, if you bring a pair, anytime you bring a pair, even as a voluntary pair, not because you you gave birth, stop you, they have to be the same type. You can't mix a baby pigeon with a large dove, a toy. They're different sizes and they're different species. So you have the the the larger and you have the the baby pigeons. So make here how many is she bringing and how many is she bringing after she gives birth? Huh? >> One and three. >> What is this? Is it >> it's voluntary is the dava vala. Now she gave she gave birth. She has to bring one kas one. So you have three, two for the present and one for the and one. Okay, let's hold cup. Just doing basic first grade math right now. I'm going to bring four two for the gift, one for my birth, and then one for my birth. In fact, everything worked out. She has to bring two sets two and one for her. Oh, here it goes. No, no, no. It didn't go yet. >> So far so good. >> So far so good. And it's going to stay good for for a minute. Here's the woman. She gave birth. >> Her her is over here. And her nether is to total of three. One. What is he supposed to do? up. >> Three up, one down like this. Perfect. >> But that wouldn't be. So, we have to figure out a way to mix it all up. Then after we mix it up, we're going to tell and then we're going to mix it up even more. And then when you're done with that, we're going to mix it up even more. So, how could you mix it up? It's going seriously, it's genius how you mix it up. What? What is he supposed to do? He's supposed to take the three the three, put them on top. He's supposed to take which goes below the red line and he puts in the bottom. He forgot to do it. He didn't do it. So the sticks in. He's thinking to himself, what does a think to himself? Seriously, you're a woman comes with a box with four birds. What do you think to yourself? What's what what do you have to think to yourself? That she gave birth while she was a zava. He doesn't know that she's Moroccan and she has to bring out this. So he thinks rabbi what does he think? He thinks she gave birth when she's a zava. What changes if she's a zava? And now there's two. It's two pairs. Not not a pair of it's two normal pairs of. So he's supposed to put two on top, two on the bottom. And that's what he did. But he messed up. >> In this case, everything is perfect. Over here, >> short. In this case, Rab said, "What is short?" She was supposed to bring three and one, but he messed up on one of the and he made it a so she owes one. Okay. Here. Yeah. One short one. If all four of these birds were all the same, they're all, let's say in this case, they look like to me, little baby pigeons, and he messed and he messed up on one. Great. But let's mix it up a little bit more. Let's take it to the next step. What if there are two types of birds? And what's the difference? Now, I he doesn't know which which he which one did he do first. So he doesn't know which men he did. He doesn't know what he did first. He doesn't know if he did the the the doves or the pigeons. So now she has to bring one of each cuz yes she owes one more but one of each. One of each pair. I don't know if he messed up on the on the perid. Now we step it up even more. She says, "I know exactly what I brought, but I don't remember what I am obligated to bring." In other words, she already she herself forgot what's going on. She knows she brought, let's say, four pigeons, not four doves. She knows, but she's not sure if that's what she promised. No. Yeah. If it's why if it's she brought one min why because really she'd have to bring two and two but one of one of them is good one of them is actually good. The one on the bottom is good one one good one. So all you need to do is bring three and you're fine. Now if it's two minimum and the ken has no idea what he >> meaning a set of doves and a set of pigeons. >> Yeah. Two minimum set of doves and a set of pigeons. And the kind doesn't remember which one he was ming first. Before he reme before there's no question what he no matter what regardless there's one good one on the bottom one cuz it's all the same type. But now the types got mixed up. And I don't know if he did the doves first or the pigeons first. So now I don't have any good ones. Before we had one good one. Now it could be we have zero good. So now she has to bring two. She has to bring four birds two of each to to to pay up the if she Now this is an interesting one. This is one last one. Listen to this. Now, not only did she promise, but she also said that she's going to bring her gift together with the together with the other that she owes. In other words, what does that mean? That she promises you can bring three birds together. They must come at the same time. Three must come at the same time. Now, she has to bring five birds on the top. Why? Cuz she said she said that she's bringing three together. So you bring one you bring one for the and two pair two pair of cuz she made her nether. Sorry I have to say this her nether the two that are nether she decided what they are and we don't know what. So you bring one for plus one pair a pair of pigeons just because that's what she promised and a pair of doves cuz maybe that's what she promised. So it's a total of five. Again once again the same problem that we don't know which one the put on the first. So she must bring six. In other words, the the also we have no idea if the went well or not. So she has to bring one for the a pigeon two pigeons for her nether. One t one dove for >> and two for the in other words she owes three but we don't know which men. So bring three and three of both mean and this is the last case and She has no idea what she gave him. She gave it to the and she has no clue. What does no clue mean, my boys? Let's do this again. What? What are the possibilities? What did she give him? Maybe she gave him four doves. Maybe she gave him four pigeons. Or maybe she gave him two and two. There's three options. Four doves or four pigeons or two and two. She gave all six to the not all six. She doesn't know what she gave. There's different three options. Either four B four or two and two of course he's super add he has no clue. prayed them. So, first of all, she needs four birds for a nether and two for the Now, the way it works is with the katas, she only needs one cuz the the the is what's decides what's what. So, ma all you need is one katas. One katus will will do the job. says, "No, it's not the that decides what is what. It's the first bird that you put on." That's that you have to decide. And we don't know what the first bird is. So, you have to do two of each. So, that's four plus two. We can't say she brought eight over here according to >> Yeshua. And finally after all this we have Rishua to prove that Rishua actually authored this and is is is in agreement with this. So you can't you can't tell me that doesn't agree with this and then we're back to the the original question according to how come that little guy that they went from the top to the bottom. How can it switch into and how do I know this is because after after she forgot everything she could she could have brought six but now she has to bring I'm sorry yeah she could have brought six instead she brought four and she messed up so now she has to bring eight she could have brought six and get got out of the whole problem instead she brought four which was a mess up so she has to bring eight for the mess up but instead of bringing six he brought 12 not good so he says a great muscle he says so says rashi it's referring to a ram here's rashi says a live ram can make one ram sound whatever it sounds like but when he's dead he Seven sounds. How? You take its horns and you make twoers out of it. It's the thigh bone, whatever it's called. It's you make two flutes out of it. It's all hide. You make a drum out of it. And it's you take it's like the strings for the chords for the >> the what? >> Loots. >> Loots. Loots. of the says you take and you transform it into how come we do we don't do it in this case says the gam this is the spoiler this ruins the whole thing it's not that the becomes 100% the is that the if the uses it he's not it removes some of the edge it's not a fullfledged it's just not a fullah that you're bring and pay extra. He never says a real real [Music] >> merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today mdysonsor.com or sponsor at mdy.com.