CHAZARAH - Zevachim Daf 64 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] Good morning on the top two lines down. We learned in the Mishna that the southwest corner of the corner that everybody remembers the corner that has the two drain pipes in the bottom right over there the southwest corner. There's three things you do below the red line, three things you do above the red line. So under the red line, you do the katus bird, you also do the shim, and you do the hagasha. Here, let's show all three of them. Bird. Boom. Okay. Hagasha. You have a you take it and you touch that corner. Not the stuff that you did a with everything else and the we know very well those three things on the bottom of the so that we learned yesterday that we learned it from a and how do you know that you [laughter] go close with the you touch the the corner of the misbeha So el you're looking at the ramp is the front of the that's the face of the misb and that's in the south. So we do it over there. But this is very important because in that it also says so it should be facing the the and therefore we do it on the south side mill. [clears throat] And what do you do on top of the red line here? The beautiful, you see how it comes out on the bottom. There's a little like faucet and it comes out and it goes into the draining pipes that we learned that you in the second B mikdash they put drainage in the misb itself. In the first mikdash, it fell over the wall. The wine went over the wall. I'm not sure like people ask me this like what's with all the blood and the wine all over the place like on the walls and on the floor it's like it was a beautiful thing and nobody scrubbed it down. Okay. Don't know exactly how it worked. So they used to pour the water on so the y they do when did [clears throat] which carbon do you do wine with you remember and anytime you bring wine anytime you bring wine oh when there's a overflow there's too much there's a there's traffic on the eastern side of the misb. Let's say that I'm just grabbing this as a as a misb. This is the east side right over here. When there's too many, then you go over here to this side and you do it over here. You don't want it to go over here. This is too far away. We're going to explain right now. Oh, where's the Bashan? There's a there was a place on the floor in the bottom of the Azor right next to the ramp where every morning the K would take coals. We're going to see soon. He would first move the coals around a little bit, take from the dead coals and pour it onto the floor of that Zoran would disappear. And we have the video. But notice how when he gets down from the ramp, he has to walk about a third way up the ramp, like the distance of the ramp. In other words, 10 armor. So here Cole, he walks down the ramp and then what? And then he just walks out. We don't see him walking, but you see he's not at the edge of the ram. He's not at the corner. He walked back towards the m about 10. One/3. Yeah. This is the kvish is how how long is the kvage? >> 32. The kvish itself 32. So you just walked about 10 placed it down there. Supposed to be three distance from the wall. So that's that's what you do with the dash. That's every morning the first thing in the morning before you do any carbonas. That's what the k does. So what does that have to do with us? Why do you do the on the eastern corner and then if you don't have room there you go on the western corner says they were very very very strong. How do I know the lightest thing on a bird? Birds in general, I don't know if you ever had the sus of lifting up like a dead pigeon off your porch, but they're [clears throat] ex they're extremely light. Otherwise, they wouldn't be able to fly. The lightest thing in the bird is its feather and it's crap. Sometimes the coin has to throw it more than 60 ft. Oh. He goes over here. This is really true sad wrote. I think the other one that we showed from the tap in the middle. He takes calls over here. What? >> Oh, it was good. Okay. >> We had an argument yesterday in Shir. I said from logic, it doesn't make sense that he take the uh the shovel and go all the way around his back like you have to do for everything else. So, I just said it goes like this. And then sent me. Yeah, I was right. That it's this way. Yeah. The the didn't like it. They said it goes around and to me it didn't make sense. I don't know why I like to take a shovel full of hot coals go all the way around the just didn't and he said that that that's what they say. It's [snorts] you take it and you come right back down. Great. So that's that's the pathway. Okay. Nothing new. We said this already moving the coals from side to side. You know what I'm saying? He makes a little bit of a seder over there with the the coals that were burning overnight. Then he takes from the ones that are not lit anymore, the ones that are that died out and he goes down. He gathers, he comes down to the floor. Now he starts walking like you see in this picture right over here. He walks in the opposite direction. He came down the ramp. Now he's he's retracing his feet, his his footsteps, but on the bottom going north. And he goes, it's on the east side of the ramp. That's the east side. You can see in there even a compass here. That's the east side of the of the ramp. How much? He goes about 10 20 ft. He gathers them, puts them on the floor. That's also not 100% accurate in our video. Maybe it means minimum three. This is all this for this point. This is the place where you you you put the uh the feather. You throw the feather. Now think about it. The at this point is he does the on this corner. You see on the east side, southeast corner. So he has to he has to take his the feather and toss it over here. It's far. It's a longer distance than this space marish, but it's not as far as from over here. From over here, it's 30 says to go all the way across and land right over there. When they clean out the inner, what do they do in the inner every day, twice a day? So there's a bunch of coals in there. clean it out and they have to they have to burn the the wicks. So they put it over there in that area and it disappears. So now let's do the let's do the math. It's math. If you don't like this stuff, it's going to be over in 2 minutes. But if yes, yes. Here we go. The the ramp first of all, the length of the ramp we said is how long? 32. The width of the ramp is how how much? 16. So if you the ramp only takes up half of the width of the mb. The mb is 32. The ramp is 16. 32 - 16 is how much? 16. We're missing 16. Uh 16 ammo. But the the ramp is smack in the middle. So 16 divided by two cuz you take eight armor for the top for the right side of the ramp. Eight ammo on the left side here. So I do it like this. from this point to the end of the is from this point to then is that's how you divide the 16 that's left over. Now when the ken stands up top over here doing the for the he's actually three into the misbeh as we know this is the bottom there's the the b excuse me the base >> the soybe and the >> carrot so it's three amas you have to take off the eight so what are you left with >> five so 5 + 16 is how much >> 21 so that's why we have 21 amma from where the kind is standing to the end of the ramp. 16 + 5 is 21. Now we have to do the other direction from where the base is. So we have 32 amma. The the ram is 32 amma but he just walked 10 up. So he take 10 ammo off the 32. >> So it's 22 plus where the kite is standing cuz he's standing a little back. So it's 23 ama. So Rashi does like a yeshivish kind of uh calculation here. He says if it's if one side is 23 and the other side is 21, let's make both sides 22. You take off one armor from here and you put it on the other place. It's 22 by 22. Raji wants to get to a square because we have a you which is it's good for like uh math. It's almost says If you have a one by one square. So what's the distance on the diagonal? >> On the diagonal one and two fifths one and two fths. So if you the diagonal will be one and two fifths 1.4. So ma if you have a square that's 22 by 22. So the diagonal is 22 * 1.4 four or one and twoths which equals 30 30.8. So comes out that the cen took it from that corner and the diagonal to that place over there which is really a little bit more because we have three distance if it was on the wall of the kv so it would be 30.8 it's now really 31. So that's the is going to ask right away it's not 30 it's 31. Because if you do 30.8 plus the three is a half. So it's more than 3.8. It's already 31 plus. So ask there's more than 31. It's more than 31. Says but if you take the area of the himself which is a person stands in amma person has area remove that. So you're down to 30. Okay, it says that everybody that goes, let's do this again. It was galdic. Very, very simple stuff, but it makes a big difference. Any avoid that you do on the you start on the right side. So, here we go. Here, here it makes right turns. The entire time he's making right turns. And we explained over here it looks like it's left turns. >> No, no, no, no, Ari. I explained it already. I explained it >> down like this. >> When you look at the misbeh Yeah. If I'm standing this way, so I'll be making a left turn. You're right. But I'm not standing this way. I give respect to the misb. I'm going to be standing this way. And I constantly go this way. I'm leading with my right arm. So I'm making right turns the whole time. I'm making right turns. You weren't at that chair where I got up. I guess not. Okay. So, you're making right turns. That's everything besides the three things. Did I not show that? Here we go. These There are three things. The wine. Where do you pour the wine? On the top left corner. On the southwest corner, which is top left over here. Wine, water, and the the So, take a look at it. He's going to be going on the left side of the ramp. People are going to give him looks and go straight there. Straight. The question is why? Why are these things these three things different? Why are they different? Because I'm concerned. Interesting. If you bring it through all the smoke that's going on in the from all the carbanas, the smoke will damage the wine. And you can't bring damaged wine because this bird might die before you get to the mika from all the smoke. Is it true that the smoke actually damages the wine? So this is a a regular coin if he wants to perform that. You hear how how how is it if you want to if you want to do that could you do that v you have to go through a whole process of a of a raffle of this that then you they decide who does that the because he's the top he could do whatever he wants whenever he wants so he decides he's going to do this let's say and comes with wine maybe the is a little different no where does he McCarron join Makus. He starts in the corner that we're talking about the entire time right over there. That's the souththeast corner, right? The one on top is southwest. The one on the bottom is southeast. That's where he starts. The kids he does like everybody else said here, here, follow him. Now he's over there and finally gets to jo. Okay. and he has wine to pour. Now the question is he just made this whole entire circle with wine. Isn't the wine going to get destroyed? And what's the answer? What does that mean? That he doesn't have the wine in his hand. He did the circle by foot. In other words, without anything in his hands and then somebody passed him the wine. He's the kind he has guys helping him. So another kind passed him the wine. When he got to that southwest corner, don't worry about it. The wine is perfect. We'll do that in a second. They give him, it says they give him wine. What does it mean? They give him wine. What they it should have said in the Gimar is oh they they tell him hey pour the wine. No they give him wine. What does it mean they give wine? Cuz he didn't have the wine in his hand. He did the whole circle without the wine in his hand. So they have to give it to him. So the the arrow on the bottom of the screen that's if you're facing the let's go back over here. You see the cayenne on the little coen on the bottom. this kayen, what what side of the misb is he on? The right or the left? >> The right. It's his right hand on the right side. So when he when he goes up, he goes on the right. Not like in London, like in New York. You go on the right side of the of the of the sidewalk. When he goes down, he goes down on the opposite side of his the left side. His left hand right now. If you want to know more specific in Chicago, they would say he goes up on the east side. It goes down on the west side. If you're from New York, you have no idea what they're talking about. So that's why it says it both and fine. Besides, if you go for the wine and for the you go up on the left side of the and come right back down on the same side. And then the says, "Why does it say that you go up on the right? You're going up on the left and go down on the left." You're right. It's a mistake. You have to put in the word small. Basically, it's the the question is how do how what's your vantage point? The k right now you see the little guy in the in the corner. It's his right and left. But if you're let's say the the tap that circle on and you're looking down the ramp. So it's the reverse. You're it's like a it's like a mirror. He's looking down. So, it's the Msbak's right, Misbach's left, and it's the Ken's left and his right. It's just how you're looking at it. If you're standing on the bottom of the ramp looking upwards, it's your right and your left. If you're on the ramp looking downwards, it's the reverse cuz you're looking the opposite direction. And the Gumar says it doesn't make sense. Just use one language. Say either refer to the person on the bottom of the ramp or the person on the top of the ramp. As you okay liked this more instead of saying there was a mistake in the Bryson you have to say instead of yin you write smile he he didn't like that uh let's turn let's change it's better to have a question like why don't you use the same language than saying that oh we have to switch the the so says the person has to bring bird so we spoke about it. If a person can afford a regular in certain situations brings a bird the is the back of the head right over here would mean lower down. In other words, the opposite side of where you shuck a chicken. Checking in the front of the neck and mika which is done with the long nail of the cayenne is in the back of the neck. Mimar means this is not called this part of the neck. The top part of the head is called. So means go lower down from the to over here and that's where it's done the ano and you don't separate the head. Now Rashi says it doesn't mean to separate that. Let's see the like this like we just said you should do malik in the back of the neck do not separate. So Rashi says it doesn't mean literally not to separate that. It means don't sever both simu the con and the vet the esophagus and the trachea. Since a bird you check by going through one, go through one and do not go. You're not allowed to go through both and then you take the bird and you swing it towards I think we have it actually. Here we go. Here's a little bit of exaggeration of how much blood is there. Whoa. If there's anything left over after that, it's hard to believe there's anything left over after that. Then you do this. You give it a good on the wall. When it comes to all the receives, so to speak, to eat is the blood. And what do you do with the the meat of the pigeon? The rest goes to the you take the blood from the actual bird. Okay. They said how you do it. You hold on. You make sure the the head doesn't fall off. You don't have to hold the head, but you hold the head in the in the body and you do as a must be on the wall of the What do we learn from this? And the 32 of the not the 32 of the ramp and make sure you don't spray it on the Doesn't help you if you do it on the what wall? below the red line like you see in this picture. [clears throat] Perhaps it's on the upper above the red line. And I can learn from a from a a simple listen to this. When it comes to an animal carbon, there's two animal carbon. You have the what goes above the red line. What goes below the red line? [clears throat] The goes above the red line. So when it comes to an animal the animal carbon is the is more important than the the goes above the red line says then when it comes to the birds shouldn't the be more important than the what do we do bird above the red line so certainly the bird should be above the red line you take the animal you put it above the red line whereas the is below the red But the bird which is above the red line and certainly the bird should be above the red line. No, the the blood that's left over should drip down to the to the and what does that mean? So says the Garra, if you were to take the blood of the bird and squeeze it out on the upper wall, what are the chances the blood is going to drip down to the bottom base like the Tyra says? The Tyra says it should be on the bottom base. Very little. Why? Cuz there's a ledge. There's a one ledge. And even if there's enough blood to get all the way down to the bottom, it's going to hit the ledge. That That's how I know that you should start off on the bottom. Maybe you should do both. Maybe you should do a little on the top and then the should be on the bottom. And then everything you don't have the whole the whole situation here. It doesn't say you should squeeze it on the bottom. It says it will drip down to the bottom. The only way that it could drip down on the bottom is if you start on the bottom. If you if you cheat and you give it a squeeze. Okay, you can start from the bottom. But it says that it should by itself get to the bottom. So may I know that the whole thing starts in the bottom. Okay. How does it look? How do you do? So these two fingers, the fingers closest to the your index finger and your middle finger, the ones closest to your thumb, you grab the wings, the pinky and the one next to the pinky, whatever it's called. Grab its feet. So now you have your thumb available and you grab the neck the the neck and you pull it over your thumb and it's nice and stretched out and then you give a thing with your nail but in the brace it says the bird is on the outside. So now it's very similar. You see how the bird is on the inside of my hand like this. So now we're going to put the bird on the outside. So we take his wings and we pull the wings down and we do the same thing again. These two fingers are boy side grab the two wings but he's on the outside of my hand now. These two guys go between these two fingers. So now I have like this. So now the Gar says, "Now I'm not so clear how this works." You pull this neck above two fingers. Maybe it means this and this. I'm not exactly sure. You get the neck to over here. And then with this finger, you're able to do malikica. Okay. Like this. Yeah. I'm grabbing the wings with this finger. I'm grabbing the and the malika. That's one way. The other way would be to do it with one hand. like this and like this you see and then with my thumb somehow I'm grabbing and I'm doing malik now the says this is the hardest thing to do in the md you hold the wings with your two fingers and two feet with the two fingers and you stretch out its neck on the width of two fingers And then you do I showed you the way to do it holding with the left doing with your right. But if you do it all with one hand says this is very very difficult. Says that's the only thing that's difficult. pizza. If you grab especially very uh baked goods that are already baked, sometimes you have to do with it when it's baked and you go like this and you have to break it with your thumb and break it with your pinky and be exactly and it should not come out of your finger at all. That's also very difficult. And also the you have to get grab two handfuls. I did a whole demonstration and you do it you pour with your mouth the whole thing very hard. It's one of the very difficult things in the it's not the hardest. It's one of the tough ones. Boyai have a wonderful day. [music] >> Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today. mdysponsor.com [music] or sponsor at mdyop.com.