CHAZARAH - Zevachim Daf 59 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] Good morning. really really we had in the like this on top says that if you right here on the top according to your perfect why so says because according to there's no problem this whole square forget the we're not talking about the ramp the square of the misbeh the 32 was all in the north if it's in the north then And it's okay. It's in the toughen. There's a there's a midpoint in the azara. There's a line, a dot, a red dotted line here. I'll just show you now. You see the dotted red line. Not the other two red lines. The other two the thick red lines are are showing where the door to the heel are. But the the dotted line in the middle, that's the middle point of the Azara. And the says that the the Msbayak was all in the north. So if it's all in the north, that's where you in the north. So who cares if it's on top, it's on the bottom. It's good and says that [clears throat] that's actually holds that the is in the north. That's why he holds it on the top. It's okay. And the gar says if that's true that really holds that, how come we don't see anywhere? Bring a source. Bray that he holds that. So the Gar brought from this fascinating I thought it was fascinating this whole thing that right over here there's coals for the this smaller and is the one that says that you push this four amus towards this wall this is the northern wall you have to push it four amas why because that's obvious that the coals have to be very very close to the doorway of the as you come out of You have to be able to grab the coals and you have to move it four. So yesterday we went through a whole thing. Why four? If you think about it, it should really be 27. It should be six. Where did you come up with the four? The only way it can make sense four is if you put the misbehed line. So look how far down the is going to go. Their the red little box in the left bottom corner is going to go all the way down to the sign where it says koolib and that's going to be a far away from the door. So it makes a lot of sense in order to make that red box in the left bottom corner be right with the door with you push the upwards towards the north and that mish fits in with that's what the said yesterday. Then the Gmorra says no maybe it's says that the mbah was in the center. This is just I'm showing you how the ended off saying why do you have to push it four if that's the case. It was perfect says it's just a fact. You have it's not that you push it four. It is four away from anything because you have a base you have a a walkway you have a [clears throat] a horn and you have the khan that walk around. So it's four fours away. Okay. Then we had oh maybe no maybe goes like that that the is actually in the same spot but let's move to misbehas in the north 16 amas in the south and it still works and it's and it's actually six we call it four because together with the bottom with the base and the it's six fine today we're holding by shia two lines from the bottom it's a new soya but it's the same idea and concept of this yesterday. We thought that's what Rashi says here on this mentioned it yesterday. No, no, no. It's a differenti says and you remember was young. He came first day in Yeshiva. that are arguing with Tarifa says that the misbeh the the coals for theqyus. Today we're talking about the kar. What's the kar? The kar is something like this. It's had a base somewhere. It's weird. You know when you go to the kisel you wash your hands and there's like a k over there in the b of mikdash they had a k and the would wash their hands and their feet I once got up on a table here and I showed how you could bend over put your two hands on your two feet that's the k we have a contradiction in the sort of where do you put the kaba where do you put the k see the k that's where the k basically is in all the pictures it's slightly south of the downwards. Why? So the says it's one says you must place the between the and the picture right here is not so great but it's it's not 100% between the and the it's like by between the between the ramp and the it it should have been a little bit up. That's what the is going to be discussing. If you want to go like the P, it should be between the square of the MSB and the wall of the which is to the left on this picture. Okay. So that's one P. The other P says on top of that the P says [clears throat] we have another P that tells us that the only thing that could be seen directly direct view is is the to the when you when you open up the door to the and you look outside the what do you See, you see the you do not see anything else but the so we have a little bit of problem. So what do you do? You pull it a little bit downwards a little bit like what we just see over here, but it's not perfect yet. You don't want the ki to be. So here's the here's the here's the doorway. The red the giant red strip. Now that's that you cannot block that view. Can't block that view. That's the micros. Whoa. What's going on? I want to prove again there basically holes that the misb was completely up north. We're going to have to push this at the end of this uh these few lines over here. We're going to be pushing the misb to the center. Then finally we're going to push him all the way up north to see where we could place the ki. Now step by step. If it's like this this picture right here, the is below the dotted line in the southern part of the What's the problem? Can I push it up here? I'm going to click. Watch this. Why can't I put it in that entire area? How wide is the misb from from the base on the bottom? How many amb 32 ammo? We're going to take off for half of the door. It's only one doorway, right? Because half of the door is in the north part of the the theor and half of the doorway, the door is 10. Half of the doorway is below the dotted line in the south. So that's five. So the only thing I have to be concerned about in terms of the misbeh seeing the the door is only five of the misbeh. I could put the K anywhere in the 27 in the green box because it's not going to obscure the view from the to the only view of the is the red line that I'm not obscuring the only the red line takes up only five off of the the top of the northern part of that's it. So have 27 to play around with why did I put the kar all the way down here put him in here in this in this box over here. So says like we said yesterday so what's the gonna say now? I can't put it in that box. I don't really have 27 ammo. Why? Because the doorway is wider than 10 ammo. Perhaps the doorway is 20 ammo. Why is it 20 ammo? Because I'm not counting the doorway of the which is inside. I'm going to count the outer doorway of the ulam. And that was a 20 amma doorway. Okay. So that's if it's 20 ammo, that means 10 above the north line and 10 below the dotted line in the south. So I'm going to remove another five ammo off of that green box. I still have 22 to play around with. Why can I put my in the green box and it's much better like this. Why? Why is it better? Because it's between the misbeh and the it's perfect. It's between the square of the misb and the not all the way down here. I don't like it over here. Over here is between the the ramp and the I don't want it between the ramp. I want it between the misb in the green box. So you tell me the green box is not 27. It's 22. Okay. 22 is enough place for me to put the let's see inside and even if you tell me that the doorway of the is just like the doorway of the and therefore the doorway is wider it's 20 and it's 20 takes away a little bit more of the misb the has to see the entire red strip that belongs to the msb cannot be obscured by any cle by anything has to be perfect view from the doorway of the on the left all the way to the ceb and no okay so I'll lower the k down into the green box and I have 22 ammo in the green box and it'll be much better will be between the and it should be literally between the or what we call yeah okay so that's not so great so let's see what we can do so theor says Let's push the misb up a little bit. Here we go. And now we lose a lot more room. A lot more room. Why? Because the misb is now north. The dotted line crosses smack in middle of the misb. >> So it comes out that the top half of the misb forget about it. And even from the bottom half of the muzz, how much is the half of >> misb? 16. 32 divided by two 16 ammo. So now I have to remove five ammo from the 16. Why? because I have a doorway. I can't obscure obscure the doorway. So now I'm left with 11 ammo. Okay. So I have a box of 11 ammo. So now what's the going to do? It's not 11 ammo. Why? Cuz the doorway is wider. It might be 20. Okay. So now I'm left with a six pack. But why do I need to push the lower down? So even if you hold was positioned half and half, half in the north, half in the south. Finally, we get to the is what happens. We're going to push the even more. Now check it out. Do we have any options? Do we have any options? If we put the ki between the msbak on the on the southwest corner of the misb right above the dotted red line is that a problem >> yes >> huge problem why the middle >> it's it's blocking the view so may have to put it below the dotted line what's the obvious question put it way above the dotted line put it between the on top where there's no door >> what north that's next question What's the answer? The answer is there's no ka whatsoever in that area. You can't put a cle there. That's a p. You can't put any kalem there. So if you can't put any kale north and the only area that you have is on the southwest corner, but that's blocking the door. Now you literally have to put push it down more south below the dotted line where it's not blocking the doorway. Is this blocking the right over here where it is right now? Is it blocking the doorway? It's not. >> It's only blocking the >> and that's not a problem. >> You could jump onto the without a kvish. The is a square the is a ladder how to get off. It's not it's a it's not it's not part of it's but yeah. So it says that's good. You put it over here. The says that is it's fine. You put it over here. It's considered between here. Take a look at the now. Put it over here where there's no doorway. And now seriously between them is and the and we're galdic in the word you have with if you remove the it's like it's like to remove that in the northern part of the I don't want any I want it clean the and who argues on this that the was in the says that's considered mlum sorry it should be empty from everything from anything do not put in the north there's a story famous story where was on top of the misb right over here on sukus and in these two holes. You can barely see it on camera, but it's there. You can see it. You're supposed to pour the water. Huh? >> Wine. So on sukus, you pour the water. So this dookie gets up there in front of everybody high up and he pours water. He's a kay but it's dookie. He pours water on his feet like he's the whole situation. He he washes his feet with the water. What does the gimmar say? Famous garam they pelted him with. What happened? The esrig chipped one of the chipped him and became became pum. So now what? Once is damaged. It's a major problem because there's a concept called when something's pushed off even for a moment it's pushed off forever. If you have a carbon that you want to bring it onto the you it want to bring on and they tell you stop there's a repair we have to do a repair now take that carbon and throw it out there's nothing you can do with it cuz once even if they repaired the it's a problem so let's see the gumar exactly when everything happened there they pelted the destroy him and became damaged anything that was on after after it became pum. Now certainly if it was shed and then became P. Let's say you have a animal. You're about to bring it on. The kind is it up the ramp and the says stop stop. You can't put it on. No, no. There's a there's a big dent here. A a piece of stone just fell off the m finished. You take it and then and and and get rid of it. So it says we have a here. So first the gar says in rav Rav says after the became pum it was when was after the okay there was a and then they and then they realized oh you can't you can't check you can't put it on okay we had a and we completely forgot what the p is going to find the p in one this case. How do we see it in the became damaged? Anything that you is possible. Is the Tyra actually telling me that you should on top over here? That's the on top of them. No way. We said we had a Mishna that if you there maybe if there's overflow but the T is not going to tell you the on top of them is telling you over here on the bottom. So what does mean? What does it mean on it? We have to understand the word slightly different. Olive means because of it. It means because of the in other words is whole. You have a good because of a good none of it's damaged says oh this is the source that said I forgot the source the olive. Okay I found it. Listen to this. Now we we have a here is adding if you had a damaged misb and you had a carbon set aside you had a a livea he's live walking around and there's a damaged misb so how do you view this live animals walking around is he you can't check them right now because you have a damaged misb but he's alive and then you repair the misb you repair the msb so you [clears throat] have a repaired misb and a live animal and then you sh the animal is that considered pushed off or not? Because when he was alive and a carbon, not stamina animal, a carbon animal, dedicated designated animal, it was designated as you hear the sh and you repaired the the when he was still alive. Is that imagine you bring your animal to something like this, you knock on the door, they say, "Sorry, don't shut it now cuz we have a major problem. It's down for repair." There's the whole the they they there's yellow tape all around the he can't go out. The repair men are there mixing the cement fixing it. And then you say to yourself, "Oh, is fixed now. I'm going to check it." The problem is you couldn't check it 5 minutes ago, but 5 minutes ago he's alive. Could you push off a live animal or not? That's the whole that's the says even though he's alive you still push it off according to even if he was alive when the guy and you fixed it and now it's good to go the misb you cannot check this guy all the carbonas in the world that were designated to be while the misb was down get rid of them hundreds thousands I don't know how many people in different houses all over they have sheep set aside they You cannot push off a live animal. [laughter] Says it doesn't matter that he's alive. You can push it off. We're talking about in the in the B mdash. If you have a carbon, you designated a carbon and now you b you built a second base. What do you do? you designated here's but you didn't have a you didn't have yesterday only today the came into play is that considered it says before you had a live animal you designated as there's zero and today you you you bu it's possible so what do you see is says I have another problem forget about he he he was born pushed off. He was always pushed off and that's not a has to be that he was there that he was a good carbon for 5 minutes and then the went down over here there was never a mb before he became. So forget that. So we have to switch the gears. We're going to play around with the gear. What happened was that he's he was a carbon by the first mikdash. He was a carbon before and then the was destroyed. You hear what happened? He was a somebody designated as a carbon. He was ready to go. Then the Gim came and destroyed the B mikdash. So he became pushed off. Now the says when the new B mikdash is built >> 70 years later, >> 70 years later, you can't use him. Ask [clears throat] the Whoa, whoa, whoa. >> We have a problem. He's old. And what? So what if you're old? If you're old, it's it's damaged. It's a it's a we have to change the gears again. Actually, we're not talking about the first bias, the second bias. We're talking about that somebody designated a carbon and then the was damaged. So, so it's possible. And that goes according to that even if you're alive, the animal's alive and there's then you repaired it, it's still puzzle. It's a cash on rav says it's not a casho but like say you're talking about a damaged bry basically it's a bry that you try to fix already three times so you fix it again you're putting in different words different things first he thought it's talking about the first second okay just fix it and say like that we're talking about this animal wasn't alive he's dead the inner here this mb right over here the mb is of let's say it was this is where it is in the mdash you put the on top says the gar if you remove it from here you could put the right on the ground so says the gumar whoa if you could put the on the ground so then there's no over here just anytime same thing will apply to the larger msbah why you tell me it's pushed off if the msbah is damaged move the msb away and then then checked it right over there where msb used to It's not it's not it's not pushed off. I have I have a I have a way to on the ground here just like the says I could put the tires right there on the ground. I don't need it. I don't need him as the outer one says. No, it's not true. The outer one is different. The outer one you need to sprinkle the blood. and sprinkling blood. You need the actual you can't do it on the ground like says you to sprinkle blood is different. So it says my who's so now we have a fascinating again fascinating took not only his but all the area around it he was so you could you could do all the everything you could you could be of the carbon burn it up on the ground on the floor of the all the way around. The question is why did have to do that? Why do you need more room? Says why? Because was very small. And I'm going to explain everything. The we had until now is small. So says the was too small. I needed more area on the ground. says and explains you don't want to leave now because this is so take a look at this. How big was it was five? How much is the area that you could put a carbon on a five by five that little tiny box in the center which is one and one armor? Why? Very simple. You can't she you can't be mur where the where the horns are. So take off everything around that one. What what are you left with? The blue backs in the middle. The blue backs in the middle. You can't do anything there either. Why? Cuz that's where the kay has to walk. What am I left with? A square in the middle. Lucky us. It's the number one. So we know how to do math with one on that one. did a thousand carbonas. So on every you could check the thousandas how many on that one but he didn't have enough room he later on heed how many let's see the here for a second 22,000 plus 120,000 plus 22,000 how much is that 142,000 bonus was how big a I need you for this one. The area for that ka was 20 by 20. How much is 20 * 20? >> 400 on every amma I could check 1,000 animals. So how many animals can I check on 400 amas? 400* 1,000 is how much? >> 400,000. Give you guys are good. So the question is if that's the case why did have to make the entire out ready for to to be miconas it had a super fire this fire over here was from from the it wasn't a regular fire as soon as you put an animal it it it evaporated in a second it what >> incinerated in a second so you put a thousand out you put 400,000 animals just throw it on whatever you put on it goes it eats it so why does have to make entire available to be mocked there are 142,000 like we saw it's interesting the but I just told you was able to to consume a thousand animals on one so so certainly 400 could do it so what was the problem so what does it mean that it's small it can't uh uh it was too small. I'm sorry was too small. But the says it's not nice to tell a cayenne you're puzzle. You don't tell them you're puzzle because you're you're vertically challenged. You tell them you say no sorry you don't say ple you say you're a vertically challenged person. Sorry you can't work here. You don't say you use so also by you don't want to say oh is gone it's a goner you say oh it's a little too small for us right now it's a but not because it's really small it could have burnt it up has a good over here let's just do this math you made a mistake is not five it's five to the center if it's five to the center. How large is the mbah? It's also very easy numbers here. If for five to the center, how much is it total from side to side? >> 5 + 5 is how much? Rabbi say this is the mbah from the center it's five. Here take a a line to the center. Center is five. In other words, it's 10 by 10. So let's do the math all over again. If it's 10 x 10, you cannot use the outer perimeter. Why? Because that's where the horns are. You can't use one more amma because that's where the kayam walk. So how many amus are left in the middle? You take off two but you have to take off two from both sides. The the the carrying goes all the way around and the khan go all the way around. So take off two and so when you take office I see you guys are very good at math. So you take off four out of 10. So how much are you left with? >> Six. So the middle square is how much? 6 by six. Did he do the whole thing here? >> Yeah. You take off that plus you take off that. So you're left with six squares in the middle. 6x 6. How much is 6 by 6? 6 * 6 is how many? >> 36. How many times does 36 go into 400? 400 divid by 30. Very simple. 10 * 36 is how much? >> 360. So, we're almost there. You add one more? It's 11. So, 36 goes into 400? 11 times. So, let's do the math again. 1,000 carbanas on one. How much is 1,000 time 11? Don't think about it. Think about it. How's 1,000 * 11? >> 11,000. We got a genius here in math. One guy here from the whole room. 11,000. So all on his is 11,000 cuz his misb was 400. 20 by 20 is 400. 36 into 400 is only 11. Had capacity for 11 times the amount of mishabenu. Andu can only shift a thousand. So he could sh 11,000. How many did he end up shafting? 142,000. It's a little bit more than 11,000. So that's why he had to make the entire Okay. We started. Are we over an hour already? In other words, you get a 6x6 square which is 36. And we did the math.ai. Have a wonderful day. [music] >> Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a shir today. mdysponsor.com [music] or sponsor at mdyop.com.