CHAZARAH - Zevachim Daf 58 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

Morning. [music] What a duff. What a daff today. Everybody's going to stand everything. We have galican pictures. If you have a art scroll, take a look at all the pictures on the next. It's gishmak. We have it in color. We have it moving. It's very gishmach. Talk to says the Mishna is so on top of the Mak right over here. Are you allowed to over here? So the answer is we learned we learned like this. Hold on a second. We have to show the the north. You know what? I don't have the north. Let's just do it like this. the sham in this area right over here. What if you went a little bit past this area? You went on top of the misb right over here as a kosher. We never spoke about it. So says the Mishna, we had to paint this. I asked Yoshi to paint it because I just couldn't show the well enough. It was blended in. It's all white. It's not the greatest color. I hope he's the one that did this, but we need it for today also to talk about the and the that's the ledge on top. So says the Mishna, if you [clears throat] on top of it, and I just want to preface this because who's going to have three on this D and Rashi all the way on the bottom of that B just sticks in this lion right over here. All the way on the bottom. He says, Anytime you have so says it's great over here that's in the north. North according to everybody is the best part. North means from this wall to the wall of the md everything. So if you go on here it's also part of the north. backing. So, we're going to take uh just for now take this uh piece of tape and go like this. Okay. This part right over here is considered suff and therefore you could check from this point till here. But from this line right over here to over here you cannot. It's awesome. So one shot you can think of is that maybe the actual position of the entire Misbayak was on a line. In other words, this part is still in the north of the of the Azara and this part is in the south of the Azara. So maybe that's one way to look at it. Or it's the Torah says you could do you could be you could bring a carbon on half. So now this makes a lot of sense to take a look over here. We have to remember this line. The whole the today's d is about this line right over here. We have actually a better picture that shows the the entrance to the ulam. This it's hard to see but the doorway is right over here. We're going to have there's a better picture with a better view. This is a bird's eye view. So you don't really see the doorway. You can see the stairs. You see the stairs right over there. The 15 stairs. Shal right over here. This line right over here is midway the mid door in the middle of the door that divides the azor. What? No. Anyway, there's a there's a line. This line, we're going to be talking about this line the whole day today. This is the midway point. The misb the way you see right now is half and half. Half in the north, half in the south. If you go like this, it's completely in the north. So says the gimbara, the msbayak is north of that line. The whole meaning this top of the mah by the way this this top is about twice the size of this room think about it it's 32 by 32 probably >> the bottom >> right >> 28 >> okay I'm saying [clears throat] the bottom the home is bare okay you saying 28 the top >> still more than this about 60 feet [laughter] 60 feet from side to side I think it's yeah almost double okay huge the and we're talking about the square, not the ramp. The ramp doesn't really count. Where's the square? Says according to the entire square is in the north like this picture right over here. the first why and then that's why he says and that's why you're allowed to you're permitted to on top of the because the whole is in the north. So then why you say means it's as if it's not as if it's literally in the north there's a says means on the side that you don't have to do it on the side you could check the animal on top of the that's thinker you have to do it on the side of on the bottom on the floor no you don't have to do it on the bottom oh my thei the one who who argues on who the who's the one that argues on the he says you could only on half of the on the northern half the other half is also based on what you're telling me so comes out that according to him we have to do this the reason why you could check in the upper half is because the upper half isn't suff and the bottom half is because it's in the south says it goes like this and says it goes like this. Okay, fine. According to him, that's how it is. But you said in the name of Listen to these words. We're going to get into this. If you underneath them. Okay, that's how it is at the end. In other words, you you got it over here somehow. You over here this entire area from here all the way around pos why why is it possible? Right now we're saying it must be soften. >> Oh, it's not softened. It must be it's like this. The reason why she underneath the misbeh is because the entire misbeh is dar. So why are you telling me that according to him? Oh hold on this one. Why you telling me according to him it's half and half according to half in the north and half in the south. How does it with the same that says you cannot shift underneath the mbah which would mean that the entire thing is in the south completely in the south and that's why if you chef anywhere even over here but it's underneath the it's possible why it's in the south you're right here's they're actually they have and they're reading the same words but they came out with a different conclusion. It says on the top of says he holds says this he holds the entire is in the north and the entire for sure. But even which requires north you can check on top of why because the whole is in the north in the north. No is going to say the entire is in the south and that's why underneath the misb is parallel. So how could I on top of the msbayak on half of the misb if the entire msbak is in the south? over here because it says in the it's that you're permitted to on top of the even though the is in the south you're allowed on on half of the says I hold the was in the in the north completely in the north and certainly but even says no I hold The whole is in the south. So the whole is in the south. How can I shove anything on top? Because it says in the next says if you're telling me that the whole entire top is kosher if you could on top of them. So certainly you could chef kum which is a less madrega if you if it's permitted to chef look you could only chef in this narrow area north of the wall a kum you can check everywhere all around him is b so if I could check on top the kajim so certainly I should be able to chef the k on top and what does say it's no it's not so I have this logic to tell me that you should not be able to on top only in why think about it. Check this out. If you could only in this narrow strip right over here in the over here not over here not just over here. So what happens if 400 show up to to the to the base of m one day you run out of area. So the Torah said, "You know what? I'll give you what's the word in English? I'll overflow area on top of them." But the the Torah didn't give you overflow area for you here over here. There's no reason to have overflow area. I can use such logic. [clears throat] I could also Great. We just learned that the holes that in the what does that mean? Connect them facing the the the ground. What does it mean? So I told you it means underneath But how do we get to that? Perhaps it means oh he shifted it on the red the base of the of the or sheed it on the ledge one dangerous to walk on but they had to walk here to apply the blood to the corners. So maybe she did it over there says that can't be first of all it's part of the why what's the problem why why is that also my connect why you calling it ka why why in the world this is 12 ft above the ground it's six arms in the air why do you call why are you calling it ka it's not ka it's high up this is ka it's one arm above the ground oh so Now says maybe we're talking about tunnels. I don't understand a tunnel is not you should make me a made out of ground, out of dirt, out of stone. He can't build on top of the tunnels. So says, "So how is it possible again that he in the if it's underneath the he said it's no good? You can't have a tunnel underneath the what happened was this which is 32 wide from from the from the base to the base from side to side." He didn't make it 32. He made it 30. Let's say he made a square. It has to be square but doesn't have to be 32 AMA. Who said that has to be 32? So he he made a a smaller square and now in that area where the where the misbeh was or should be that's where that's what it means and that's pos according to everybody. Why? Because according to you see that's in the south it's in the south. So now we we start a beautiful here says that the entire was in the north. The entire was north of that red line. Pretend this is the door of the the straight line coming out of the door and the was north of that line. Is it possible says that says such a thing? I don't see it in the anywhere. He went out searched everywhere and he found it. He found it in the mish. It's not. So we're going to go through a lot of stuff to get to the it's all a lot of it is not important to the actual riot like this stuff right over here. Now what beautiful today we're going to learn a lot about the misb. It's going to it's going to change everything. First of all on the misbak there were three fires as you could see here. It's beautiful the way he did it. this large one. You come up the ramp, you make a right and you put all the meat, the murm and everything on this on this fire burns right over here. This we know is the that's the ashes the leftover. What's this in the back? This is themed themed. [clears throat] There's always a fire here. This right over here. So, what is this? This right over here is this is what we're going to be talking about the entire day today. this right over here. What is this? Where is it placed? Where exactly? So, he did a very good job. He put it in a very nice spot right over here. It looks to me like it's four armas off the off the Well, actually, pushed four armas northward from this line. Pushed four armas this way. He didn't put it on the on the edge. It's pushed him. And that's the whole suga from this guy right over here from this clarus. We are going to prove that the entire was in the north not in the south of the let's explain says like this it's not this is this is the first fire this and this is for shakyus what'sus every morning as the the bright It says in the Mishna Kenov, we all know what's the what's this corner name in English? >> Southwest corner. It goes from here from here till here for Amas. That's the ria right here. Now, it's going to take a whole to to get to the Raya and but it's going to be a lot of fun on the way. Something completely unrelated to our Raya. They put a lot a lot of wood. So much wood that when it burns down, we're going to have five full of coals. So much wood, more wood that we should be left over with eight saw of coals. Why so much? [snorts] Says Rashi. Beautiful. Take a look. Let's say you're trying to sweep your floor. You have a bunch of dirt and you take the not the broom, the other thing, >> dust pan, >> the dust pan. >> And without a broom, you try to lift the the dust. What's going to happen? You start chasing it. It it moves away. Says rash. That's why you have so many cuz you're taking the shovel and you don't have a wall behind you want to grab without any problem without it running away from you. So if you have a ton then you just go and here here's a nice depiction that Yoshi made some sometime in the middle of the night. So it's made out of silver. It's a beautiful cle they would burn upon him. This is the Never seen a like this before. These are the and those two guys that we just saw are the two spoons made out of gold full of frankincense. Now on Chabas they would eat the upon from Shabas to Shabas but they couldn't eat the upon him until he took this frankincense he took the lev and poured it onto and burnt it. That's the mat. Remember we learned about the M. Oh, okay. So, that's all side stuff. Now, we're getting there. How do you see from here? Anything about the misb being in the north. So Raj says Simon that this is for Ramis from the the edge from the the south west corner for pushed in pushed in for this is by the way just this is all side stuff not don't don't work yourself up on it just that you saw it in In gimar if it says anoa it means yes in Hebrew it means it's a positive it's a double negative which means a positive so you would read it without the red you read yeah means you you you put it in other words we're going to be t what's what do you take from the inside and go to the outside means The always outside means what are you taking from the inside? You're taking from the >> the Yeah, I lost them already here. These guys, these two guys, you're taking these two from the inside where the is and bringing it outside to burn it. So he's saying you got to burn it immediately. Wherever you hit, the first spot you hit, you're going to bump into a that's where you put it on and and these whatever you I just threw out this is going to prove that we're talking about and what are you taking from the outside? What do you have already on the outside? You have you have coals. You take from the misbeh the closest here's the door to the right over here is the door to you're going to take from this from this from these coals not from here from the closest coals possible that's also why we want to prove where the misb is compared to this door if I could prove where the mb is compared to the door then I know if it's in the north or in the south if the door the door is over here's the door and it just said that I have to take the coals closest to the door. So, it makes sense that the coals are here, not over here and not over here, but over here. I'm going to come out of the door and grab coals. They have to walk around. That's what he was asking. Okay, this is not even part of our riot. Just these are sorry things. What What are we talking about here? If you're talking about doing this, taking the blood from the inside of the and pouring it going from the inside of the to the outside. Whoa. All the music. That's You should pour it where? And you can see over here. Uh you can't really see. We should make it yellow. Southwest corner. That's where he pours the blood. That's by the doorway to the so it can't be let's talk about the other thing what's the reverse you taking calls are you talking about calls it says it says you do it in front of meaning right by the door of him Okay. So again, we're taking the two spoonfuls of the fragrances. We're coming outside of the immediately depositing it on the first place that you find on the the first fire. Put it over there. Why? I learned from Shirim. Just like not mash, you don't put it on the fire. You put it on the bottom right when you come outside and you're hitting this corner. So you're going to put the the the levo here on this corner. You're talking about the corner, the area, not the exact placement because the placement of obviously goes in the drain on the bottom goes on top. And what's the coals that you use every single day on the twice a day? You need coals. That's what we're talking about. the we learn from the just like the they have to be taken from the closest fire which is this this is the fire that we take it from and this is the closest to the door I'm going to show you all the pictures and it's going to be very very understood oh and now here goes the suga so you see the doorway to the ulam you see the doorway on the left now you see the dotted line what does the dotted line represent That line represents the center of the doorway, the center. Now, the entire mak in green is south of the line. It's on the bottom. So, we're going step by step. There's three there's three possibilities that the misbayak was completely south of the dotted line. In other words, touching the dotted line. the northern part of the misb the top of the misbah is touching the dotted line and it goes downward south or it's completely the other side of the misb is touching the dotted line so it's completely north or it's in the middle those are the three options now we're talking about rais we're talking about this fire right over here we're talking about theus it also you see it in the picture like this it's right over Here you see it a red little box right over here. Now you see the you see the tires in the bottom left corner. Take a look. You see it moving moving moving moving. Oh the Gmorra says that we move it four amas from the edge. You saw that. Why four amus? Why four amus? Maybe six amus. Maybe 27 amas. I think it should be 27 Amas. You know why? Because [clears throat] right now it needs to be 27 Amas. Because in order for you to get from where the Tyrus is right now to the doorway of the of the of the Hel, you have to move it a lot. Take a look. You're going to have to move it all the way there. The the placement of the fire is in the wrong place. Look at it. It's over here. It shouldn't be over here. If you want it to be next to the doorway of the It needs to be over there. How How long is the home is 32? 32. How wide is the doorway to the 10 to midway to the doorway is five. Now, I don't have to go to the midway of the door. I could be all the way at the end of the doorway. I could be at the at the edge of the door right over here. You see where the laser is? right over here. That's enough for me. Okay. So, I'll take off five ammo cuz from the mid door from the the dotted line, that's the mid doorway. I don't need to be there. That's a gmama. I could come down the five am. You see this five here? Erase five. That's fine. >> Still be opposite. >> I could still be opposite the not being in mid doorway right over here. I'm by the by this line right over here. That's the doorway to the this doorway over here is the Ulam. Don't don't don't look at that for a second. But anyways, let's take off five from 32 because the the width of the is 32 minus five that I don't need to go to the mid to that data line. I don't need to be by the data line. Where do I need to be? I need to be by the salad line. That's the beginning of the >> so it's 27. 5 - 32 is 27. Akop the Gar asks, "Why is the fire to the all the way in the bottom over there and you pushed it up four armor? What's four am? Four armor does nothing for me. I need 27 amma. I need to push it up over here." You know what says the Gamarra? But the door, let's not go with the doorway of the is over here. You see, you see the laser over here. Let's go with this doorway. This is a much wider doorway. It's 20 ammo. So, I'm going to gain another five ammo. So, let's do that as the Gomorrah. Here, there's a new doorway. Let's get to that doorway. 20 AMA. So, it's 10. I still have to go 22 AMA, not 27 AMA, 22 AMA. Where did you come up with four? So, four doesn't work if the MSB is in the south. That's it. That's step number one. you have to you have to um you have to go 27. So if you hold at the is just the entry way to the but has a wider door and it has the same and when the says or whatever you have to be by the doorway should be the so it includes that also. Okay. You gain another five. Instead of 27, it's 22. But the bottom line is where did you come up with four? Oh, now let's continue. Is holding with me over here. >> Okay. Let's say the is smack in the middle. You see the dotted line? That's the center of the doorway. Is smack in the middle. Where's the rabbis? You still see the over there? Great. I have to get from the to the center line. How's how long is that? is still sorry. No, I still need 11. Why? Let's take a look. Half of 32 is how much? >> 16. But I don't have to get to the center of the doorway. I could Wherever the doorway starts. That's already the So, let's take off five amas for the for the doorway. I'm still 16 minus 5 is how much? 11. So you would have to move this fire right over here. You would have to move it 11 amus off the edge towards the north. This is north. It said we moved it four. You got to move it 11 ammo off the off the north towards the north. So same exact thing that we did before. We're going to gain another five. Rabbi say how? We're going to widen the doorway here. Dam's door is 20. So we get another five ammo. How much do we have to go? So that's 10. We still have to go. We have to move six. Where did you get four? Oh, so six doesn't work. We have an answer for six. The Gar is going to give us an answer later on for six, but the Gar doesn't tell it to us now. It tells it to us later in Yehuda. The answer is going to be Rabai that it's really six but you have to minus the one of the red and the one of the blue total is six. >> It's four this way plus two of the blue and the red. It's total of six. It's six. It's four from the edge over here. Four. Four here plus one blue plus one red is six. That's later doesn't say it now. So says bad. Oh. So now check this out boys. Take a look, AI. Take a look. The the dotted line. Here's the dotted line. The MB is pushed up completely past the dotted line. Oh, now it's making more sense. Look where the Clarus is. The fire of the is mamish next to the dotted line. Galdic. We're there. We're almost there. [clears throat] >> But if it's there, so why do you have Oh, so it's there. So why are you pushing it away from the wall? Leave it. Leave it on the wall. Why? Why are you pushing into four amas? Says the good. No, no, no. We're not pushing in 4 amas. We're telling you the limit. Do not go past 4 amas. If you go one centimeter past 4 amas, you're going to be past the dotted line. You're not you're going to be past the top line. You're not going to be next to the the doorway. You got a problem here. Why? Check this out. Here we go. That's what I showed you before. You need to push it in one anyway because you have the red yight over here in this picture. It's green. You need to push it in another ammo because you have a You need to push it in another because you have a a a horn. A horn. A horn is one by one. [clears throat] And you have to be able to walk around the fire without getting your toes that don't have shoes on burnt by the fire. And that's why even over here he depicted it. There's a line around the whole thing. You see the khan walk around there. So that's what we're saying to begin with. You you just lost four ammo right off the bat. And with the position here, one more ammo. We're moving it in one more ammo. So he's saying, take a look. If you're gonna move your fire more than the four armor that you already have to move it because you're forced to you have a you have a base you have a you have a you have a you have a ker and you have rag you have four ammo if you move it any further guess what's going to happen it's past the doorway you already lost the doorway we're in a perfect position leave it right over there don't move it one inch that's the we didn't move it four it was moved by itself just the the fact that the is that size it was moved If you were to push it five, it's not going to be facing the doorway says the we're going to do one more. more the we're going to do the same thing again says no it's not a that holds that the perhaps not it's the and we had this already mim means the average we theor started off that the the tyus that's in the bottom left corner do you see this box right over here yeah do you see it I'm pointing to it with my laser you see this box. Yes or no? >> Okay. The Gmorra said it was pushed off this wall four upwards towards the top of the screen. And the question is why four am? It makes more sense. 6A 27 4 am. What's the number four? So the says okay so now we're doing perhaps it has to do with the position of this msb. According to the misbeh is the dotted line. The dotted line is the middle. You see half of it is in the north, half it is in the south. So why is the is the little fire on the bottom pushed off that wall the edge of the wall for says is 32 is connected just does a simple math. You have you have 10 ammo. The the doorway as you see over here the from line to line is 10. Then from the thick line to the top of the is 11. From the thick line on the bottom to the bottom is get a 32. We just divided the 32 is exactly in the middle. So it goes according to like we asked before. So let's do this again. The the in order for it to get to the doorway you have to move it. 11 ammo, not four ammo. Where'd you get four from? Says, "If you hold the doorways a little wider, so we're going to go like this. The doorway is wider. You still have to push the six ammo. Why four ammo?" No, you push it four. You know why? Four from the edge. You push it from this point. Four plus the blue is five ammo. Plus the red is six ammo. That's why it's called six. Ask the if that's the case. That's a beautiful answer. You just told me it's six. You call it four, but it's plus the six. So why don't you answer that before? When we're talking about you asked me the question, you went on and you said, "Oh, it has to be that the is in the is in the north." Why don't you answer that with is the one that says specifically that the misb is in the center never said that just said you got to move the the coals four and the coals have to be closest to the the but he never said where the mbah is said is in the middle so according to him we're going to explain four am plus two equals sixai have a wonderful day >> merit this of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a share today. mdysponsor.com or sponsor at mdyop.com.