CHAZARAH - Zevachim Daf 57 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] Good morning. We're holding by a brand new Mishna B again. We're looking at this chart of where we might finish the peric today. Sad per without a famous peric. Where do you all these types at? We did the all that all the ones on the right. Now we're finishing all the ones on the left. What's left? Peskar on the bottom. Where do we these three? Thear, the newborn, the firstborn, the micer, the 10th, the pes. I love the pes. Let's get a guy. They have of they're on the lighter side the I'm not going to pull out this board again but the is in this entire area everywhere. Even behind the right over here even on the sides over here everywhere. Now we know this is the taffen right this box right over here is the ten. No you don't need suffen. You could go durim. You could go you could check right over here. Okay, so this is different than all the other carbonas that we saw that we need. You have to put it on four corners and and the and two that are four. You hit the four walls but only on two applications. This one, these three just once. That's it. Just make sure they're gonna hit an area that has the green over here, which is the base of the which only goes on two walls plus a little amma on the others. But you have to make sure that there's a base when you pour the blood. Hit this wall or this wall. This wall, for instance, is no good cuz the base stops right over here. No good. You can't pour the blood over here. There's a difference between these three when it comes to the type of eating and how you eat is only eaten by the not by the whereas for instance you could eat anywhere in any recipe that does not apply to it can't be any recipe has to be roasted. You could eat the for two days and one night. [snorts] And what about only that night? So it's very different. You could do two days in a night like right over here. You could only eat the carbon at night. There's no daytime eating. Different than all carbonas. All you could start off you eat at the day plus a night at least one night even the following day sometimes over here the zero day and you must finish eating it by you have to be part of the the a bunch of no nos a lot of nos you can't eat it up you're not allowed to eat it only but it sayso and you can't eat it unless Unless you are part registered to that to that carbon has to be roasted. So who is the T that says because we're going to see hold says you pour it onto the you don't throw it. Who's the Tana that holds you throw you do one? I want you to remember this name. I'm going to have him soon. A beautiful messa here in the Gmorra. This is the famous when he's already it says why does it say it's a double we're going to have a similar later on it's like it's a plural why plural why does it say it should say it's it's fat what's many fats It teaches us there's other in addition to the [snorts] lim. Okay. And how do you know that you must have a base where you throw the blood of the and I learned this from This is this is a typical how do I know that by the you have to throw by the it says before the so that I know by and I learned from I launched arba If the has the two mat, let's just show it. Why not? He throws the blood on one corner one time, but it hits two walls. So maybe you should do the same thing by the pes. Why do we say that one is enough? says a tremendous that I I forgot to show the I just want to show you real quickly by it says in it says in have to be registered. It also says but you can only eat at night has to be roasted. Good. Next. Now check this out. We have two here. one by one by it says the word and says the word says this is which is this tremendous the idea of is that if the wanted me to learn this everywhere so the would say it once and I learn it to the rest of the I see this by by one carbon I do it by but if the Tyra says it twice the saying no only in these two places but we're not even talking about here we're talking about exer sha So you see that this idea of works also you can't learn out says many times and I mentioned it the last time we said it I don't know how many times is in but many times when the says you can't if you have tum you can't learn it out what about if I hold like that you could is not enough to to limit it only those oh so I have a third it says also the word if the said by three for sure that's only those three no other next so this is really our sug right here it says in the bkar is is eaten for two days and a night. Let's just get that clear. Two days in a night is what is not the day the entire following night and the following day up until but it doesn't say it in the so how do I know it? That's today's how do how do we learn this? So in the beginning the is going to say uh limod then thear is going to go to the retan says it's logic we're going to have a whole argument between it's a very cool story the back and forth is phenomenal and then the rebi gives up okay you're right it's not a so then steps in and says no I have a so that's today's how do I know there's two days in a So this right over here we have a says and [snorts] we have also the idea of what's the we give to the the thigh and the breast. So just like is two days and a night. So tooar. Now here's the problem. There's other things you can compare it to. You compare it to you can also compare it to. And a we know you can only eat it one day in a night. You could also compare it to how long do you eat it for? A day and night. Nope. I'm going to compare it to says what's after the gull the the Sanhedrin they went to Yavna. Now they didn't want the to know that the Sanhedrin typically Sanhedrin are in a semicircle. They lined up tables like this. Straight tables like like a like a vineyard like like a kum straight. So if the if the enemy came by and they saw a bunch of rabbis sitting at the table, they're not going to think it's a Sanhedrin. But they did ask. Exact question was asked in how many days can you eat a like we said it before is like two days in a night listen to this it's unbelievable there was a brand new freshment first day there says his first time in the base marriage what was his name the We saw in the beginning of he was a young but he was powerful who told you you know what it's simple let's use logic common sense you're talking about we're talking about how do you know is two days in a night you learn from the both revi I don't understand what you're saying. Let's do this for a second. Here we go. Here we're learning Bakar Schlam from Bkar I mean from Schlam just like is two days and a night so too is two days and a night as asked why don't you learn it from what's a lot of animals his first born you have to give to the and what's you do a you bring a so you did a whatever the thing is you bring the car into the mdash And part of the carbon goes to the I don't understand it should be you should learn from yeah where the lines become wide. Let's let's figure it out. Let's use logic here. Oh, so hold on. Let's go back here. He says no what first he said it's you should learn from he says no it's yeah it's better to learn she says no we have another reason to learn from says I'd like to learn from not from why because schlam doesn't come for a sin comes You sinned is not for sin. So let's go. No sin from no sin. I'm going to learn from. No, I have another logic. Look at this back and forth. It's unbelievable. Now we said already goes to the owner. You don't bring it as a as a gift or anything. It's if you sinned by [clears throat] mistake, you bring one. So too, hold on. Yeah. Don't come as a as an andar doesn't come. So it should be one day. Where do you get to two days in a night? It should be one day and a night. Let's do two days and a night just to remind the two days and a night when she day the following night and the following day. something it was a bomb question the town who got ribbit soyan steps aside says you know what I can't deal with him good cautious who's somewhat of a of but he's stronger than retirement in learning he says I'll fix it so that's the Pik that we saw before here says no no no no you're right he's right you can't learn this from logic because if you can go from logic he has he has more of a reason to learn here all these things that it's it's more it's similar is similar to more than it is to let's drop the logic let's go to the there's a between the and it says it says we have a we have a comparison and guess what once you have a heckish there's no this makes more sense it makes less sense once you have a heish that's it you're locked in you can't you can't find it He's not satisfied now. He's going to argue with Think about it. Who's right over here? If you could if you could compare to which is more lenient. You could eat it for two days in a night or compare it to something that's more one day in a night. Which one would you compare it to logically? What should you do? >> Huh? Why? Why more >> the like the fast? Why are you grabbing? Why are you trying to do two days? Give him two days. If you just go to to whatever is the least of the two. If you can compare it to aar. You don't know how many days you could eat. Compare it to we know you could only eat for one day. You could also compare it to for two days. Take whatever you could get. Take the least of the two. Don't be answers him. Look, look at this. Look at the P on the screen for a second. It says in the means you get the minimum. What's the minimum? For how long? The minimum one day. But then it says what? It says it says the extra is extra day. So we have two says. So you get two days in a night. You made a mistake here. How do you know the whole idea of the whole the whole we were saying? Take a look at this. We're learning from now he said that you should learn it from the problem is you cannot learn from the whole you learn to and then you learn to that what that should be one day and a nightl is two days and a night but through the heckish we're learning one day and a night but that's a that's a a after and inh after doesn't work. So tell why did you back up? Why did you say you need another? Look at this. The on the bottom is way of getting out of this question says it's not even a question. You don't need another. What is he saying? He's saying that you should learn from. No, you in order to learn from taida. Sorry, not this one. This one. In order to learn from tida, you need a double hish. You can't do double hkish in learn directly from and if you learn directly from and then you you wouldn't need says so he doesn't hold like that you have to use. So what does he do with the if you think about it the the gets the the firstborn? What does he do with it? What do he do? What does the do with the he has to bring in the md? It's a whole hassle. Goes to mdash part of it goes into part of it he gets. But if it's the k gets the and gets to eat it by himself. He doesn't have to bring any of it to the bdos. That's a huge. You think maybe if it has a you don't have to give it to the at all. We don't find such a thing in the so that's why I need a special great now that's something that agrees to olive law. So how does he learn it from if he already uses plural double this two types of meat one is a normal animal and one is so what does it's the meat of the bull of the goat of the sheep of all the types of carbonas now the question is had a good time over here does A hkish after a hkish. What does Rabika do? what he learns after akisha says we're going to learn from that that it's we go from to so it's after what's going to do with this he can't argue on that everybody agrees that in there's no after says the question is is this considered or not why because there's two points over here there's the point of the and there's the point of the night and the day. it by it doesn't say how how many how how many days but it does say so if you're using a heish that partially part of it you know and part of it you don't know is that considered a full heish or not is that a heesh that you can't learn in and the gives a few examples here now according to it's considered therefore I can't learn I can't do a doubleage. Says it's not considered. Therefore, I could learn it. Oh, so now the goes into a few different. We have to pick up the pace a little bit, but since it's a little uh tricky, so we'll go slow but fast. Here we go. We have the You remember how many sprinkles of blood you do in the kadeshim? >> Seven plus >> one. So, it's seven. But here's the let me before this let me show you the it's very important by the by the bull it says on top on top you have to do how many does the say doesn't say doesn't say one on the floor you do seven that's by the bull so the bull we're missing one we don't know how many to do on top now take a look at the next ple it says says what's one. So over there it says how many you should do on top. But it doesn't say how many do on the bottom by the pirate says in the bottom over here it's on the top. So what do you do? You combine the two. Now I know that the bull the seven on the bottom one on top from what? From the saw and the s I learned the seven on the bottom from the bull. That's called a heckish. Then I have this. So take a look by the bull the seven. You see the seven dots over there. And there's one by because of a heish. I'm going to do I'm going to do both. I'm going to do seven and one. Seven and one. Total of eight. That's what we do. Yeah. That's that. Now, how about in the to the left with a same exact thing because of a he what is that? That's a heish after a and that's for that's for that's for so what do I do says it's the same ideas over here it's we have a little bit of something else that's in the plus there's some that I know and some I don't know sorry let's do it again one on top the bottom the the same thing I do on the left on the but how many I'm learning one from the other. So that's great if you hold it's not considered a heck. Why is it not considered heckish? Because I have some that I know without the he some that I need the heck for. But if this is still considered even though I know some of it but I'm learning other stuff as well that's considered after he and we know that in you can't do after aesh says the two interesting answers I'm going to call them interesting answers that we have to put a little bit more thought to it but because we're doing we're going to fly through it one answer is that it's two separate types of it's not a heish after a it's two separate one heish is learning the from the that's number one number two is I take the drop that I put on top from the and I put it by the that's number two the types of dam is one ekish the place is another two different things it's not a heish from aish it's two separate is in other words the way I understand it is if I did one stop let's think about it if I did one heish I learned the from the how much blood would I spill in the in the without the secondish without the first seven >> by the seven by the sorry I'll do one upon him I have something I have something without the first hkish I have I'm starting with something the exact amount I don't know exactly how much I need another heish so that's already not a heish from akish I got I have something I have zero without the first I I can't even begin I need and then I have to have the I could tell me I can tell you how many days you're allowed to eat it but without the without the two I have zero I don't know how much I could eat zero You have to stick in the word here. Okay. So when it comes to we know that you bring two here like this together with the you bring and you do you have to you have to wave it. Okay. So now we're talking about the taida. The toida we know you have to bring 40 40 uh >> breads >> 40 breads >> loaves if you hold is not a heish then it's great we learn from it already says the word that you bring like learn today. How much how what's what's the amount of flour that you use in order to to do a freshala? >> About 5 lbs, right? >> Yes. >> 5 lbs. A little less. Okay. Over here, each one of these kalas weighed that five lbs. Each one. >> Yeah. So that year goes to the as well the what each weighed about 5 lbs of flour. So to the here let's show you something that's a little bit more here. These guys each one of these is similar to the to one. Each one of the is like one is look at the two together. It's two. So maybe the whole pile of 10 should be two is together. Not each one should be one but together should be twoar. So we have a heck here. It's each one. And how do I know that this is also for the how do I know for the for the so that's great if you learn that if you have a heck together with something else it's not a heck great so we have a heish after he over here but we have we have something to begin with we had something we just added to it so with something else. But if you hold that, it's considered this is considered. So now you have a double hish and how how do you have a double in says because we're not learning from the way you learn is from extra word in the not from because would be a problem because after okay it says in it who's say the famous it says It says you should eat it hastingly fast. What's what's until the morning when ran away from it? They left fast. So he so you hear this you're allowed to eat the until the morning but according to you go all the way to the morning. So why is the Torah sayar beautifully? Because if you remember every single carbon like this. Yeah. Every carbon has a day, night, day or a day and a night. But you have a day in there. The only carbon you can't eat during the day is carbon like every other carbon they can eat during the day. That's that's the that's this is a night carbon. You cannot eat it any time during the day. We had a number of times in this parrot that a lot of even a day and a night you have to stop. You can't go till the morning. You got to be careful when it comes to a treat it like that. Oh, so says it says all the it says eat it. What's this extra word? Meaning is to tell us that the you stop at not because it's a have a wonderful day. >> [music] >> Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a shir today. mdysponsor.com or sponsor at mdy.com.