CHAZARAH - Zevachim Daf 42 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

Good morning boys. I holding two lines from the bottom of alf bay shorter daff today just to remind the we're talking about this case there's something called pagle that the kay as he's performing the let's say he's doing he's bringing a Mina consists of flour and levina sometimes even oil and he brings it on to the misb and as he puts it on the mak he thinks to himself that he's going to eat this in a week from now that's pigle but what he didn't do is he didn't have that thought by the second part when he put the lev on the misbeh is that considered pigle or not says says it's pigle even though he did 50%, he thought about the of pigle during 50% not during the 100%. Let's say when it comes to blood you have to put 11 zas on the floor and on the when it comes to if you don't have the pigle by all 11 zikas it's not pigle why over here does say that it is pigled by thinking about it by half and not by the whole there's two options either he holds that you you could do peel with only half of the necessary matim. So if you think about it during the it's enough even though you didn't think about it during the what's the otherish likes and he doesn't like the idea is that once he starts thinking a thought of pigle in the beginning that thought continues on throughout the entire process including the says it's not because he holds that's not the reason the reason is. So we try to poke some holes here. And here we go. The one who argues is Rav Raf says no that the reason why says that if you have a thought during and not it it's a good thought it works and is because it's okay to think about people half of half of the necessary. We're not talking about Ra for now. We're going to pick him up once today. Our main focus is Lakish the what? because he started thinking of pickle in the beginning of of his of his how do you do kam how do you do a you take the bowl of flour and you put your hand in there and you take a kamita that resembles that's why it says on the screen then you take that kima and you put it we could speed that up a little bit put it into a cle That's similar to cababala. You take a little salt. Maybe a lot of salt. Little salt. Put it in there. Cuz anything you put on the That's the leavo. That's the frankincense. You put that on top. Now he's walking towards them is that's not sure what all those beams are. Then he throws it onto the fire. That is zerik. Similar to zika. That's the point when he thought in his mind, oh, I'm we're going to do piggle for we're going to I'm going to eat this the rest of the I'm going to eat it next week. That's pigle. And he didn't think about the lavina when he threw he threw in the afterwards. That was a different thought. When could a person have a pigle? So if you cannot be meagle [Music] there's 11 zas on most most bulls inside the four on the corners and seven on the floor go like this go like that seven in a row 7 + 4 11 we said that all 11 are one unit and therefore you have to be you have to have the thought during all 11 but there's a situation where you could think about pigle during one and it's enough. What is that? This one right here. Since only one Z is important, it's the Makave. So by the first Z, if you think about pigle, it's pigle. The fact that you have to continue doing another three, that's only a mitzvah. But the main part is the one. So when do you need all is when you're talking about this but How many times when we're talking about on top we're talking about the oh so he says when is it a good pigle one this guy the outer ones then it's pigle but the bloods that are given on the inner of his now we're going to go this is very cool how dur during the week during just a par is 11. But what about says that's easy. That's seven on the ground, four on the corners. So you have a total of 11. But what about yipper? So yipper is also super easy. It goes like this in the so this is not exactly how it's done the in the well maybe this is we'll call this >> BI but in the B the had two bad the two poles the would stand right in this area there's actually a paras right here came up to the paras with an ace you stand over here and sprinkle the eight towards the Darin. So now >> on the >> not on paras on the to I believe. But over here let's take a look over here. It's we're talking about two bloods. Remember we're talking about the the bull and the goat the p and the so from each one has two kum. Each one he sprinkles eight. It's eight. So you see over here there's eight drops of blood plus eight drops of blood eight from the eight from the a total of 16. Once he's done with that that's in the then he goes outside into the and and does the same thing that this is what we were discussing until now. He does this towards the paras the paras. So towards the bar is another 16. You still have the blood of this and the blood of the another 16. 16 + 16 is 32. Now what he does is he takes the two bloods. We're going to see when he does it. Let's assume he does it now. Beautiful picture. He takes the two bloods of the par and the mixes them together. So from this point on he's only going to do it once. He doesn't have a parisar. Now he has a combination of bloods. Now he's going to do another seven. Well, four on the corners and seven on the top of the maki. That's another 11. 11 + 32. That's 16 + 16 = 32 + 11 is how much? >> 43. So we got to 43. Let's see again. Uh, and here he does. Oh, you can even see nicely seven on top of the you see the pushed to the side. Four on the chronoise. So 4 + 7 equals 11 on the right. So we really have here four zerikas four different categories. What do we have? We have pigle rishin which is in the kadash. We have pigle sheni is on the floor. We have pigleishi which is on the corners. And where's pigle ravi on top the seven on the top. So it's four things. It says the Gimar like this. Uh oh. So what do we have? Oh, this is very very important right here. Right here. [Music] We're going to go back to this line a number of times today. So that's why I preempted it with this. Now look at the screen. Now it's all in the while he's putting the blood on the and we're going to see later there's the reve because there's two parts of the misb there's the seven on top there's the four corners what's the is according to let's do this rais think about this according to this is peel if he's magle even in the middle one let's think about about it. What are the two options? What are the two options? Either you can be mafagle with half and that's why it's peagle. Or the other option is when you start something with pagle the whole thing continues with pagle. Does that work in this case that was faggle with the second one? >> No. Why? >> Because there's nothing in the first one. What happened in the first one? Where's the pigle? If if you agree that faggle with all three of them that every blood is essential. So how in the world is say that if you're only a in the second one or the third one it's good pagle. The only way we could understand that is if we say that you don't have to be a fagle in all. You could be with half part and that's also pigle. But if you say like is then when you start off something on the on a left foot you start off with pigle let's say with pigle and it so it just continues on by itself to second and third that's great but that doesn't work if you started in the middle you you could start you could continue from the middle to the third but had you go had you have pigle on the first one so something's wrong with the way he learns Even the second one is pigle. He says, "Oh no, in order to get you have to think about throughout all 43 of the [Music] it says they could have pig even in the middle one. Andor says that you're not going to like this so much. It's not that he fagle during the blood is what happened. He the the could happen. This is a this this happens all the time. I'm assuming he's he's tired. He had a hard up the whole night. He's he's holding all this blood. It's heavy. We discussed this. It takes a lot of strength. He did all the inadashim and then he trips and all the blood falls out on the floor. Now what do you do? What do you do? >> Huh? >> No, no, no, no, no. Picking up. No, no one. >> You got to sh another one. And you do you do the you continue from there as we're going to see. So that's the he's with the second Not the second the second now we said you could be you could have a thought during it's one unit it's one pigle every carbon that a forget about the mdash he could be by all four he could think I'm going to eat this carbon in a week from now during the during the during the during the doesn't have to be So what it says is that he brought a second bull for and he and he thought about it during this throws that out right away. Why there's only one action and during that one action he had great try but how can you argue on that? Everybody's going to agree that that's why would say it's not pigle. But oh my brother, I'll tell you why it's not pigle. In that case might say that it that it's not pigle. We're talking about things that go completely on the kit. All of it goes on. The lev I actually brought Levita with me. Yeah. You don't need to see it, but from a gift from Jonathan Stfansky. I love these little things that we could use during Shir. Yeah. So, this is Leva Vus, the the incense that you put on the on this twice a day. It's cool. None of it goes to these are of the it's either the libations the the the blood and the that go together or sometimes a person gives a he gives a all goes in the since it all goes in so I would think he took a tiny little bit of the let's say is And he took warm and brought it outside your for that and says no is so understands our case also a guy did he had to do twoas why because the blood fell he did number one number two according to that says that you have to be with all the kazim of this so you have to be with all theas it's not enough to be with one out of the two I have to follow with all the why because according to since the is only a part of the it's not all the because I had to do a at 10:00 in the morning now I have to do another at 11 so that that that at 11:00 is not all of all the it's only part of it just like he says this one kaz I bring one kaz of a kamita outside it's not considered why because only part of the so is only part of the It's not and that's what we're going to say is according to the raan means and he holds that you cannot be with part of the part of this um says the [Music] ask no that doesn't make sense why even has to admit when it comes to the blood. Even though every drop of blood, every is what? One part of that like one out of the two, each blood is one out of the that what even one outside of the even when it comes to the inner and the inner kas all 11 are essential into all one unit. But if you take you break it down to single units like one piece of blood and bring it outside you're by the he says you're not but by the blood yes sorry that what if you take one out of the 43 the 11 bloods you bring it outside from the exact that he finished. Let's say he did three out of the seven on the floor. He continues four, five, six, seven. Oh, >> so what do you see? >> So what do you see? You see that each each one is its own unit. Mm over here also you in other words you could in each z you can make pigle and therefore each you can make pigle don't tell me that if you do a a second the whole of the was pig means he made a second the blood fell made and it's its own unit according to and argues on that no you see over here the holds that each one is its own unit and you can be in each one and each is it own unit and you with each so you can't tell me it's so says right over here. No, not this one. Oh, here. Check it out. Here's methagle on the right, mythogle on the left, no piggle in the middle. Now, typically speaking, this is a problem. Why is it a problem? Because if he did piggle in the first one, so I could see logically his continues. Does the fact that he thinks about piggle in the third one maybe showing that he wasn't meag in the second one? See the when we say that when you have an initial thought the initial thought continues on for the rest that's when there's not a contradictory thought maybe there's a better word contradictory >> opposing >> contrasting opposing >> opposing thought okay but over here there might be an opposing thought why because the fact that he thought about it in the beginning and at the end he's showing that he did not want to be in in the middle maybe there is Why did he go and make another pick on the third one? He should have just let it go. You had one thought in the beginning. Let it go. Where? Look at the words. Look at this here. Here's the words. Anybody that doesn't want to look at your own. Does anybody see a difference between the There's no difference. Where did you come up with that? It means that the middle one he was not. It's the same lion. and this is missing some words there but the is not that middle one has to go to the left that one on the left goes to the okay I'm going to another one minute I'm going to another one now by the way there's something called just the daf there's over a thousand views a day just on YouTube and in just the daf all this mess up is not going to be there there's it's just the daf anyway but it's also all the also like okay fine oh this is better as you can see over here this has it right you see like this the one on the right is it's the piece of wood I don't know what he did over there >> but now all we're doing is >> right in the bas that's what it is so now all alli did is he added the he he's talking about the fourth one we never spoke about the fourth one why the fourth cuz there's two parts this the the chronoise the the corners and then there's the top that's the fourth one. So he's saying the case was that the person had piggle in one two and three and not in four. What does that show us? If he wanted to continue his piggle he would should have just done one and it would have continued to two three four. Why is this guy only doing one two and three thinking thinking thinking thinking and all a sudden he stops thinking cuz maybe he doesn't want to be on the fourth one if it's true that when you have a thought that thought continues why would he continue to two three two and three especially when he stopped at four that is considered pig gold says but the wording is Not good because it says Bane. Bane means either by the first one, either by the second one. It doesn't seem like it's one that he did it by the first one and the second one and the third one. It says Bane. Bane doesn't mean and Bane means or he's saying that he was by one, two, and three. Is that the way to write it? It should say that's how I would write it. What's means either, but it's a kash. It's a good kash. We learned if he did a if he did a pigle on the say what are the two options either you could be it sounds it sounds mish fancy and complicated it's simple you could do on part of partial part of the and says no the is because he says now we're going to ask on who says that the reason why says that you even though you didn't do pigle on both you only did on one out of the two on have a cash on him because he says you could do piggle on part of that. So he says a ve very very very simple question right one of the nuances in why it's it becomes a little complicated and confusing for people because there's a few little in there one of them is you have to it has to be a pure thought you can't think about while you're doing it etc. One of the ideas in pigle is in order for it to be pig you have to follow through with all that you have to do and even though you did your let's say during the it's not enough that's not until you finish everything. So he says, "How do you ever get to such a situation of finishing this? You ruin the blood. You ruin the blood with your you ruin the blood with now you're just sprinkling 43 sprinkles with water with orange juice. It's garnish. It's not blood. It doesn't have just like when you make a carbon. How do you make a carbon?" You have to do four. So when you make a puzzle, you have to do four. You have to do all the asking. Here's the question since he thought about this inside. So, he made the blood puzzle on his path. It's as if he never did any. And then he goes and he continues doing all these in the he's throwing simple water. I'll tell you what is like we said before the blood spilled in between and he brought another carbon. So each this is interesting. He he did this. He still owes a bunch of a bunch more. He owes another seven. But then the blood spilled. So then he sh another carbon. So each that he did is a unit. A complete unit. He completed that unit of that carbon he completed. It's a good pigle. This is what a lot of you were thinking. This is what the says to do. You're right. It's ple. So what? But the said how do you do pigle? You have to you have to follow through and just go through all the motions and do all the then you get to pigle. That's how it is. What are the 43 say again? Let's just go through it real quickly. 16 cuz 8 + 8 in the 16 in the is another it's 32 and then you have four on the Ken 11 on the top of the that's 43 but it says somewhere else >> uh seven on top four on the thing is 11 is 43 but there's another place that says there's another four says says mentioned before that you take the blood of the par and the s you mix it together but when do you do it? So if you do it at the second stage, in other words, before three and four before, in other words, if you have to put four of the bull and then another four of the goat, so you have another four. So it's 47. But if you mix the blood together and then you do only four, not eight, so you have 43, says, "But there's another that says it's 48, not 47." Oh, what's that extra one? Where do you have one? At the end of the day, when everything is mixed, you have to pour it down right over here on the base of the that pouring is is considered one, so to speak. It's part of that. It's on the mah. It's 48. If you say that the sham is not part of that, it's not it's not essential, then it's only 47. M I'm going back to ask a question on again says that the reason why says if you do you have a during the but not the it's enough it's pigle and he says is because once you think pigle in the beginning by the it's going to continue going onto the when do you have a pigle just by the and not by the by three stages when I do here. I don't want to watch it again, but you get you get the whole thing. I wish I could speed this stuff up. I could have the right now during the I could have the during the where it's where I pour it into the second and I I could have the during the but when I get to the point of when I'm throwing it on what if I I had a pigle thought during the when I threw the but not by the Oh, so now take a look at this. This I need everybody's help. If I did the but I didn't do the the the leav with the pigle that's obvious that it's pigle according to why because I could say that it continues the continues. Take a look at the second line. I did the there's no at all and the I did with pigle how in the world could this work say how could this be a good piggle that's the only way >> but I can't say that it's it started on a bad on your left foot and it continues on because I didn't start on the left foot I started with the >> how am I going to make the first part the I need to do all so obviously the is that's obvious is that the the is that I could have a have a thought not that it starts and ends the way it starts it ends. So let's see inside. If I start the with a good thought and the lev with a bad thought and he says you get carus. Why? The only way I could explain it is if it's enough to be at the second half. So the says take a look at the screen for a second. Look what's going to happen here. We got to say that he started off the le with the that's the only way to to explain because he started with so the you don't have to have so has two questions first of all then why do I have to say it why have it's the same exact go it's the same exact second problem is that it says this way it says you can't you can't deny it so is that he did. That's exactly the two lines are identical. They're just putting in different components, but the dial is the same. There's another bra somewhere else that says this way. Sorry, this way. That afterwards he did the lev wasn't the first one. It's a good boy. Have a wonderful day. >> Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today. mdysponsor.com or sponsor at mdyop.com.