CHAZARAH - Zevachim Daf 38 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

14 lines from the bottom. like is Shami if you could do one z instead of four zeras for in other words one z for all kbanas or the main z is one and the rest are it's a good thing to do it's a mitzvah according to know you have to do at least two for the what's the source of the noise so we're going into the famous of it's the way we read it or the way we received it. So in the itself as you can see right over here it does not bring any nuns any v. So therefore if without you read it which is singular but we have a that we read it read it you put it on the corners of the misb corners plural so 2 * 3 equals 5 and therefore >> ah six yeah >> right so 2 * 3 equals 6 and therefore we have So why where do we get how did get to two that two are since we only have four corners on every square unless you go to some squares have more but this square has four corners 1 2 3 four. So the Tyra says you should put it on the corners. So the the most it could be is four. Then the T says another two. There's a total of six. So two more the to is repeating itself that we have a concept in that anytime the Torah repeats itself in this is serious business. So two are very serious because you got a total of six two are a must say let's go back to this says in the car there's only a total of four over here we can't see it and we don't have it in our tires today all three don't have a vote Somewhere along the line in history that they dropped the VVE was lost. Something happened. They discuss it. seems obvious from the Gmorra that he had in his above in one of the carois when you look at ours including the Yemenite there's no VV there upon him according to what he has and he's learning it's 1 + 1 + 2 equals four therefore he learns of one is essential And the other three are the way to do it. It's a mitzvah to do. It's super important this. We have to remember this that these three mitzvah. Since it's a mitzvah, you can't do it. Let's say you do it outside in your in your backyard. You do the three. That's a big no no. You you get you get mis for it because it's part of the mitzvah. It's not mak. What does mak mean? If you do one, you're good. You got the kapor. You you Everything is good. >> You can eat the carbon. But the three are not a joke. They're a mitzvah. Ask the who told you. Where do you see anything to be? Why why should one of them be essential? Maybe all all four are are a says we see over and over that there's a concept called and is m it's all about the can't be that the doesn't accomplish anything but on the other hand it can't be that all of them are mak so therefore one is mak the minimum is makave and the other ones are for mitzvah another time to Where do we still come up with one one aan of a mess? You know what? Let's take everything seriously. There's something called a mess and something called mikra. It's the way mikra means the way we read it, pronounce it, and the way it was given over in the without a v. So let's let's do a combination here. How how many mikra do we have? How do we read it with av it's plural. So we have three * two the kano. So it's six. The Misarius we only have four according to Bis two carois one car two carnas and one carois is four so let's take the middle ground something in between not four not six five very good the tells it's four let's take off from the six one and the mikra that you read six and you you think it's four. So add one because you get the five. So now says that we have one that's that's the case it says we read it but in theory it's written as singular singular or plural again we have four. So therefore, but we read it as six. So why don't you do the same exact thing? Take the middle ground. You should be you should have to do five should have five compartments. Also five compartments says the word the we're not learning from a combination of three words. We're learning we're taking one word and we're breaking it down to two different words. The garb does this a few times in sh where there's some foreign language that it means something the word means to in some language Africa in Africa means so do the same thing you have now you have a little bit of a problem you're going to have to make something like This is going to have to be a pentagon. So the is like this. We're holding where we need to be holding inus. How many walls do we have right now? How many sukas do we have? Five. Four and six. And something something in between is five. We need one to teach us that there's a mitzvah called the the main part of the mitzvah is this. So now now we're left with how many? Five minus two three. Now the three the famous is you take you only need two full walls of seven each and the third wall is look look at the look at the if a woman gives birth to a female she's for two weeks but that's only because we have nikudas but if we don't have nikudas it can be read shim So which one is it? Is it 14 or 70 is 2 weeks which is 14. So says let's do the same trick. Let's go. Let's meet in the middle somewhere. I was trained by it's 42. How do you do the math? It's we'll make it more complicated than necessary. But here is 14, shim is 70. What's the middle? So you do this. What's the difference between 14 and 70? 56. Take 56 and it's 28 divided by 2 is 28. So now you could either add 28 to 14, which is how much? >> 42 or 70 minus 28, which is 42. That's the middle. That's the middle ground there. We're just making it complicated for no reason. This is how they did it in front of so we stick to that. Okay. We knowes how much 7 days. So it says two weeks like how do you get to 42 though? It's a little bit of a stretch. It says in the three times here we go. It's about three different carbonas. So another another limo to say that if you put the blood on the corner on one corner one time it's good. How do I know? At the end of the day I thought maybe I could use my own logic but it didn't work out very well. That's why I need the why. Here we got the beautiful there's blood that goes below the red line. There's blood that goes above the red line. What's the only carbon that we know of that goes above the red line? And a bird. Fine. But let's talk about most carbonas go below the red line. Says these bloods that go above the blood that go below. You know all carbonas even agree all the so to the blood that goes above the red line keeper that's my logic right now why should why should be any different than all one is enough oh but if you're going to go with logic but I have another logic here we're going to use his other beautiful this is this is inside the this is this one right over the white one is outside of the so now maybe I should learn from if I miss one application of d in in the I messed it all up maybe I should learn instead of learning the top from all the carbonas on the bottom I'm going to learn on yum kipper I'm going to each of the whole of the whole year. I'm throwing out the other ones, right? Four of them total says, "You're right. I could learn from the top, from the bottom, from others. I can learn this guy, the white guy, from this one, and it will tell me I need all four. Which one do I learn it?" Let's see who it's more similar to. Why would I learn from this? It makes more sense. Let's learn from the same as we have you bring on the bottom. All you need is one. So the carbon you put on the top you put on top one is enough because I'm going to need a ple because I'm stuck. If I try to use my own logic, it's not I'm not going to get anywhere. Or I let me learn from not from this. And in the B in the I put it on all four corners of this misbeh. And on this Msb I also put it on all four walls and it's a it's great. It's they line up beautifully and I should and it should be Makave. Don't don't don't bring a a riot from the put on the bottom that you don't need four four corners. That's why I need the three that what right now I'm at four. I I don't know. I need four because the in the in the is four. We're going to go with four. Just I have three and each P is going to take off one and I'm going to be left with one tells me all I need is one. That's the essential one. Even if he didn't three, even if he only did two, I'm down to one. Ask the if you look at the P these three are talking about three different types of carbonas and each one is giving a to tell me that the this this is says guess what there's another word over there if you look in the green it says [Music] in other words it's okay very similar a little different but it it tells me that there's a caparo [Music] person by the name of explain it to me here in the itself tells me that I have a words teach me that I don't need four applications of blood one is enough. [Music] She did a whole thing here. Here, let's see. This is teaching us that you need to put four applications of dam. I would I only saw it later on basically this morning, but he was working till 2:00 in the morning. The bottom part of this is confusing to me. I'll I'll just do the top or the bottom, whatever. It's it's a it's mimicking the top and the bottom. It doesn't matter. But look at if you take just above the red line, it's there's four applications and then it went down to three and then another comes and goes down to two here. Two and then one. Okay. The three the threeers knock it down. Sigar says who told you to knock it out completely and say that you only have to do one application. Maybe the iso. Don't get rid of it completely. Keep them. Say the Torah says you have to put it on the but you know what? Three above the red line, one below the red line. You're right that there's something about the three. But maybe the T is telling me to say instead of doing four above the red line, you could put one below the red line. It's not saying get rid of three of them. I'm going to take one pausing and say you could do three above the red line. Then I'm going to take the second pausing of the second you could you could get away with doing two above the red line and two below the but you have to put all four below the red line. It's telling you here like this it all four must be below the not that you could get rid of three completely just that you go below the red line says how could that be the says you should put it on where do you do you apply it on these horns but if you can put it all below the red line then there's no horns so why is the talking about horns says the says put on the red horns. But the tells you if you put it below the red line, it's okay. Has the right to do that. Then if everything goes below the red line, he's saying very good. If everything goes below the red line, then there should be four to tell me that four applications go below the red line. Why are there three? Obviously, the three are telling me that three are different than one. Three are not essential and one is essential. Says very good. So one is essential. So put one maybe the Torah is telling me put one above but you definitely need three more on below. Who told you get rid of it completely? Says Gar. No no no no no. When it's impossible that the Torah said to put one on top and three on the bottom. If the Tor said one on top that's it. What has happened? You can get rid of the other three. Why? We never find anywhere that you you you apply the blood above and below. It's either above or below. Not you don't do both. So you see over here what this is in the looking at the capyus here the capy. But right over here, the Gar understands that he's putting one above and one and and below. So there's above and there's a below. It says, "So there is a below and and above. You just told me you don't put blood on on top and on the bottom." There is there is a blood on top and the bottom says, "No, Kimliff over there. It's like a guy trying to uh >> sharp >> sharpshoot like giving malcus in other words when you give malcus you give you start on top of the back of the person you keep on moving your way down. So he's saying like this when when the mish says top and bottom top means we're referring to the palm of the hand. So here give me this tissue bag this thing for a second. So my palm is like this and I go like this. Lala I'm I throw it like this. Lamato is I throw it like a ball like that. Like you know >> hard ball or softball? >> Yeah. >> Eyes closed. Kiss like that. >> Softball. >> So Oh, hard ball and softball. Very good. Softball like this. That goes further. That's the lala. It'll go further. And when I want to go closer, unfortunately, this guy uh did this in the middle of the night, new guy, and uh he didn't really Here's his palm upwards. That's good. But I told him, I need the the blood to stay there. And uh he did it to the side. I wanted it when he goes when it's palm down, it should be closer to him in between his feet and that piece of blood. So, I don't know if the editor can move it cuz this is like a whole rendering. It's like a 3D animation kind of thing from the past. But anyway, it says that he he threw the blood on this. He threw the blood seven times, but it says the wordar. What doesar mean? The center. Now, when you throw something at a center, you're going to get above and below the center line. There's a line cutting the center. And he throws it at that line. What's going to happen? Someone's going to go above. Someone's below. So you see there's above and below. Why are you telling me there's no above and below? What does means the halfway point and like noon there's a halfway to the to the day the the midpoint of the day noon. So there's the midpoint of the and I went above and below means this part right over here. He's supposed to put the seven things of D not on the midpoint but on the top of the misbak like like the heaven is the toy is the top. Oh here's the here's a here's the picture of him putting on the corners. [Music] Where do we put the shar on the bottom of the misbeh? So you see by let's say you put the blood you do this above the red line and where you going to put the sharim on the bottom. So there is above and a bottom you don't have to put it on the bottom. Let's say it's spilled. You still get a kapara. I'm talking about the don't tell me you have to put one on top and three on the bottom which that's an essential part. But what about when you put the blood on the golden misb and the leftover? What do you do with it? you have to come outside and pour it again on this and that some say I'm I'm talking about that in one like this not that you go into the come out in oneb we don't find that there's above and below a certain area okay so this essentials whether it's the one or the two depending who you are according to there's only one essential one according to there's two essential when it comes to and other is only one during those two essential mat if you do two then you get a kapara then you can eat the meatlo this is super interesting what does mean here you remember this in you cannot not do think about pigle when there's when there's a few things that you must do you have to think about the piggle in all those things so if there's two that you must do you must think about that I'm going to eat this at my son's brisk in both of them because if you only do it in one of them then it's a half a m and a you cannot create a thought in half of what you what's necessary the same exact idea say that according to them it's only one Z it's okay one Z you do one you get the you get the the carbon is good you get a kapara and all you need is one in order to do pigle let's think about it first who's the who's the you need two to make pigle and according to wants to make pigle who is mak who is m the answer is that according to it's a ka why because you don't create pigle until you do the two if you do one it's not pigle so it's a ka according to this is terrible it's a pigle it's a accord you have to do two in order to be so it's a so why is it not in the famous mishna that that list all the coolest of everything you can look at the positive and the negative. The question was asked, can you eat the meat of a carbon after they only did one zera and the blood spilled and you couldn't do a second? Could you eat this meat? And the answer was that according to >> you can't because you need two and according you could. So in that case is you're right when it comes to pigle bish is when it comes to eating the meat bish is m and the question was asked about eating meat. So they they never made it into the mishna for that. No, let's go another five, six lines and then we'll start from there. Afterwards, >> says the let me just show you real quickly. Papa says there's the beginning part of the the hazar number one. Hazar number one and there's everything else. Haz number one is the essential one according to and that's putting the blood on the that's the what's the is pouring the leftovers onto the onto the base. So he says there's different here the last three ones here. There's the last the last three number two, three, and four. Those are the last three. They're different. You should don't make fun of them. Don't put them down. You're right. They're not essential. And and the mitzvah, the the is number one, and the kapar comes from number one, but the Torah says to do four. So, it's not a joke. Therefore, you cannot do them at night, especially when the blood becomes puzzle. You should know that even though the owner of this carbon died and typically you wouldn't do yet because I could do it after the owner dies if he dies in between number one and number two you could continue doing it if you take the blood and you do number two three four in your house in B park but it's not but it's part of the mitzvah you can't make a joke out of it all and therefore says says sometimes number two, three and four are like number one. They're super important and whatever the lion is, you can't make a joke out of it. Sometimes we go light on it means like pouring it into the here some some the three the three bloods are sometimes they're like easy like the stuff that goes in the bottom that's not we said today even in the when you if you don't pour it nothing happens, not the end of the world. If you if you pour the blood, so the top that says that's super essential. That's like the the beginning like the first doing it outside doing at night, you're not allowed to do it at night. Israel is not allowed to apply the three bloods number 2, three, four. But but it's not essential. So So let me try. No, no, no. You're going to get the misa for that. You have to use a cle you have to use a special cle for the for three four 2 three four car you have to put apply it on the on the corner on the use your finger like in the picture. Oh kos if the blood gets on your clothing in middle even between two and three three and four you have to wash it where inside the you have to have leftovers and we even brought the the the we had a whole if let's say use four cups worth of blood and use a little bit from each blood each cup you have four cups of all these are like let's go back over here like the first. But one more line and we're done. If the guy dies, you're allowed to continue doing it. The the three two three and four do not make the meat mut to eat. What makes the meat m to eat? The first one. If you have a if you were good in number one, that's it. People is over. If you your happened during two, three, and four, no good. You can't be then. This is a little tricky that if the blood went into the it doesn't make the the the the food possible. Look at this. If you bring the blood into the the the you make the food no good. Not if you bring the blood of two three four have a wonderful day. 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