CHAZARAH - Zevachim Daf 16 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

Good morning. [Music] Welcome. We're starting a brand new peric. So, if you're new to uh it's been a Gishmaka ride so far some of the very today's easy because very very familiar. I'll show you the uh the chart. Okay, we're going to do it three four times in a row. Easy stuff. all we know there's four the first we're not talking about we know that a could do that's not a problem but everything past the is problematic with and then we have a whole list of people that ruin it completely ruin it so number one on the list is a zar is o somebody who lost a close relative before the means that he went to the mikvah before he has to still wait until until it's night time that it could be completely so that they ruin it. The carbon is gone. Who has to wear the four the four garments the eight garments of his missing something pos they had something called a and they they would wash their hands and their feet. If you don't wash your hands and your feet no good. Today fel people wash their hands before they d based on the kurbanas in the b mikdash orl a Jew who doesn't have a brisma rashi says even a Jew who has a really good excuse because his two brothers died from a bris so he's not supposed to have a bris nevertheless he ruins that a person who's a person who sits if a person stands on top of different vessels in other words We're talking about you your feet have to be straight flat on the on the floor. So do not you're not allowed to have or we have also in case you want to know what that means. >> So these are all he's not on the floor. If he's on the feet of his friend he's standing on his friend's feet that the floor is a little cold. So he decided to stand on his friend's feet. Obviously they're not wearing shoes. All these things make the the holds if you accepted receive the blood while you're doing it in your left hand with your left handle says it's makes the referring to So it says they should separate themselves from Ben is the is a classic process of elimination. If you were to pause for a second and say what does what does bay is mean is ben is could either mean b is the sons of Israel rather than the daughters that's coming to exclude women. It could mean not that's another thing. And the says those two things are not even it. It's something completely different. I'm learning it in a very we not weird different way than we ever learned from these words that when you're you shouldn't you shouldn't perform the but it comes to exclude only when only for but for others you could do the what does that mean? Now in the process of elimination we have to go through the ones that it's not and then we'll get to what it is. What you can say that a woman who brings a carbon the the could be formed what is a woman different her carbon could be brought but no way. So maybe maybe means that a a a carbon of a non-Jew could be brought by a so he says we know the wore something called the tits it doesn't help the it doesn't help the whether it's of the so You allowed to do it. You when you are Tommy no way. So what's you have to learn the a little differently. It says in the what we're going to do is chap the period means that the must remove himself from not not do and then it says another that if it's a regular guy the iss of the world us peasants we we cannot perform you guys don't don't be don't okay so that's one way says so now we have the classic that we've seen many times already and now we're just getting used to it it's the same exact thing over and over says like this here. So we have a few he's not allowed to go and perform that then it says afterwards he's he continues eating just it says afterwards in other words if he performs he ruins it he's eating so is a very simple A simple if a bow is permitted to eat the if he's a that has a blemish he doesn't have an arm he's permitted to eat from let's say if he performed that it's ruined so who's not permitted to eat so certainly if you perform He ruined it. He's not allowed to eat him at all. So if he doesn't have mikdash, he ruined that. So he can also play. So let me just show you this thing with this is what we're using. This is the standard chart. First of all, here are the different characters that we're using today. Zar is all the way on the right. Bom, he has a problem with his leg. Tom, he's holding a dead rat. He he just lost a loved one. He has the crea. He's not in a good mood and soar says very simple. We're trying to figure out how do we know that is if he performs he ruins it. We're going to learn it from a we have a lot of people we can learn it from in the Mishna. We have we have all these people. So let's start with Bum. Abalum if he performs a so too is says no has something special. Excuse me. Just like about a human being that has a mum he cannot do that. So too an animal who has a mum, you cannot bring it as a ka. So this mum thing it goes on all I don't want to use the word societies. what's the word in all categories in all it goes from humans all the way to animals it's a very very powerful thing this moment [Music] soak it has it has in the first peric we did this number of times in in all sorts of formats it's the same thing over and over so it's it's pretty easy to to comprehend says okay so I'm going to learn from Tom it's another thing in the mishna that what if a person was to he touched a dead rat he did a CPR in the mouth He's not allowed to perform. If he performs makes a puzzle, so too say oh has something special to it. It's he has the power to make other things to. So now what do we do? >> What do we do now? >> We take the two and we learn from it one. We take the two things. It goes around in circle and we say okay but cannot make other people or Tommy or whatever. Oh but a balum is carve. Okay. And it goes around in circle. So let's take the two of them together and combine forces and learn one should not be able to dod that's called and then what does always do >> no that's afterwards >> right now on the we have a what's the two things together they have something special or wor they cannot perform on a bummer on a private mb in the in the backyard Okay. So, let's see inside. So, we're holding over here. You want to learn from he has something special that even a carbon has ruins it. So, we got the Tommy guy you can't learn from because he could other people cannot pass other people goes around the circle. Each one has a positive and negative. The common denominator is that the tells them do not perform and you should know that if they do perform they ruin it and that's what I'm trying to learn from the two of them together that if he performs it ruins it how do you know that was warned not to go into the midash like we dish in the before stop a So if he if he if he agrees if agree to that we learned three lines in the bottom of [Music] that P says let's read the P they shouldn't pass if he's learning that is person who performs so why is the learning Now obviously he doesn't like that. He doesn't like stopping in middle breaking up a stop a brand new I don't like that. I'm going with I'm going with logic. So so where did the say to do not go into the mdash? There's another it says in the should not get close. So it doesn't say what happens if he performs just says don't go in there. [Music] These two people that we're talking about, this Tommy guy and the balm cannot perform an Obama, but Israel could perform an Obama. So, you can't learn from them. Obama says, "You know what? You're right. Take a look at the chart. Now, we're going to take the tummy out of here. We're going to knock the tummy out and we're going to use a person who loses his close relatives cannot perform if he performs too says good cannot eat sheni could eat sheni. So now we just remove and we do the same exact thing. We go around in a circle is carve the the carbon also gets ruined with so it goes around in a circle and then you just do the again let's answer. So the bottom line is even perform when it's who told you that little secret that can't perform in the we know that cannot perform in the md that's true but maybe on could who told you and this is going to if we know this one we know three of them so let's pay attention over here How do I know again? What's what am I looking for? I'm looking to know. How do I know that is who performs the mash is coming this week >> and we go into could you and I perform? What happens if we do? What happens? We try to help out and we take the blood from here to there. We ruin it. How do I know? It's a simple from a person who's sitting. We know a who sits on the ground. Of course he could eat. But if he performs in a sitting state, he ruins it. But like us who cannot eat. So certainly if he performs that he ruins it. It says in the when you testify it's something you can't learn from a guy. A guy has something special. He's no no you didn't understand I was not trying to bring from a regular sitting guy I was trying to bring from is permitted to sit because it overcomes that say of that they have to stand on so says oh but you're right you found one person called that he's a minority but the category is a category of people who areas if they sit so is not going to learn that. He doesn't agree with that. He doesn't go with the category. At the end of the day, I have a person called sits and he's not. And even if you're going to say that he uses that as a Here we go. We're going to do here together with and now we're going to do the whole thing all over again, which we don't have to do. But cannot testify. So, but then we have and we have at the end of the day what are we going to say [Music] and but could we could we answer the answer is no we can't say so we got to take that off [Music] now if would beama then I'm gonna sayama but I'm not gonna sayama So take that off. So why can't I say? How do I know that a that avid perform? When do you have to stand in front of perform when it's in the not? So we're going one by one. How do we know that a somebody who lost a close relative goes into the migdash and performs the how do we know that that is possible? There is one person in the world who loses a close relative and performs the who is that says it says by the should not leave and if he and if he's in there he performs it doesn't become puzzle. So it's a simple but if somebody else another performs it is possible the is going to say in 25 seconds hopefully maybe more that you could you could argue this it's not so posh that that's a good deal maybe the is saying the so you better go home so says the no he doesn't go home all the for sure don't go home to perform that but even the who's so you say the kind god though maybe he shouldn't perform that when he's in such a state no he also should state not that that only him even him that's that's what is going to say in a second so we have to make a a small talks about this all over there's a very interesting conversation in the on the first day of Nissan when they inaugurated the mishkun we know it's a very sad day that's the day that died. It's a whole it's hard to understand the whole what happened exactly. And one of the interesting things that happened is that the carbonas which the first day of Nissan they brought a carbon they they burned the carbonas why did you burn it. So there's a whole conversation in the m is trying to say did you burn it because of this? You probably burn because of this but that's not a good reason. Maybe you burn it because of this. So one of the says you think my you think my sons Allah and summer who survived the death of their brothers that day they're what are they called you think they burnt it crafty I burnt it that's not the reason that's not the reason in other words had they burnt it because they were that makes a lot of sense He's saying don't think they burned it because which is what you're supposed to do. Why you supposed to do it? Because when performs it's possible. So you see from here that it's possible. If they would would uh would burn it, everybody would be okay with it. Why does he have to come out to this whole can he says shouldn't does not make it possible but a regular coin does make possible says infer that that's your your deal in other words I don't think it's a good deal because maybe the is so he we had have a meaning he should he should not perform that and everybody should So how come this whole with it seems like saying look my my sons had they burnt it they would have been right for burning it why cuz they're but I burnt it why didn't they go with that there's a question why was it burnt was it burnt because of they were or is it because they were it became tom no he'll hold it became tommy that's why they burnt I know that cannot perform. So now like the rest of the like we had before we had many times in the first paric that's something's wrong with his foot his arm he's permitted the but if he performed becomes possible the same exact thing that we did on when it came to the what was it we're talking about then >> sorry is correct Correct. Thank you. So certainly who is not allowed to eat the carbonas if he performs it should be possible. She can also buy. I'm sure we have this. Do we need to do it? Let's do it. Why not? Here we go. Same thing all over again. We've learned from no I'm going to learn from I already know that he can't perform. What's the uh unfortunately as much as people want to go to the rabbi and become and sometimes they're able to do it. They go to another city and they become but cannot be a kayak. He has that's it. He's done. He's born is prove and we go around in a big circle. the the bottom line is I'm learning from the and from the that is ruins that where does it say where does it say this whole idea that he's not going to be you're going to take Why? Why the same exact source that we had before? Why do you have to come you don't learn from? It just says don't come close. He's going to learn from the not the reason why they burnt the carbon by is because of the Here's a new something new. Meaning that one day is going to become nice and good, strong. He's going to get over he's going to bury his mace and he won't be anointed anymore. But not to where could a perform a right. I'm sorry I made a mistake. Could do the avoid right now. Not that he's going to get good. Sorry. Bad. No means as he could perform that v when he could perform that right now as a when >> nob but still nevertheless you can't prove from it because has the power to be others could prove to you that they don't have the power to ruin it for others. The bottom line is that they are warned. It's a I have I do have one interesting case of that don't have but at the end of the day the category of does become when there's a okay and now we're going to jump back to the same exact thing that he said in I don't need a I don't need I don't need to learn What from a sitting person that that's he performs who performs that he could sit down on the whatever he is sitting down he could eat the carbonus but if he's sitting and he performs he ruins it who does not eat the carbon in any situation certainly again we're trying to find a place for looking for same type of for who doesn't eat the carbon certainly if he performs he should ruin it another that we had that a sitting person cannot perform no my idea was that the a sitting person who happens to be could sit when he does but the category of a sitting person is he doesn't agree with that And even if you hold that he does hold of it that would look something like this if you want to see it. Oh and then we get to zar. No, this is something else we do together with Tommy. Let's say Tommy Zar and then you do the whole thing all over again going around the circle and that is have a wonderful day. [Music] Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today. mdysponsor.com or sponsor at mdyop.com.