CHAZARAH - Zevachim Daf 15 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

Good morning. We're holding on that based like 10 lines from the bottom 11 lines. This is uh this is a uh the topic today what's walking without your feet moving without your feet. So this thing right over here they're right by the misbay the noise maybe could you see that movement of his arm that movement that's the the spilling of the blood on them is that's but this movement might be moving the blood towards him is that considered or not what's ankina if you're do it do you make it possible could you think a thought during this movement of your arm pussle. So a lot of these things as as classic here in we're going to see again we had before we'll see again a person who sits on the floor in the if you use your left hand apostle so inferring it says sitting and what if you're standing still and you move your hand that's and it seems is like would be says maybe he's scuttling around on the floor if there's such a word I don't know the word scooting around >> shuffling here we go maybe he's moving a little bit on his so and therefore if you're going to compare it to standing so also he kind of scuttled what do you call the word >> shuffle he shuffled while he's standing you want to say that there's a difference between sitting and standing here sitting he shuffled standing also shuffled but standing would be if he shuffle I don't have a real rabbit we're going to have this case a number of times and accepted the blood right that's how they actually did it on pes there's so many people there so they had a what do you call in English >> a line a conveyor line. >> A chain a chain like they they they do with the you know in a fire bucket from one person. So these are also buckets >> assembly line >> assembly line. So one gives it to the other to the other. Is anybody moving? No. So what do you see that you don't have to move? You can do the without moving. Remember this because Rash is going to ask the question later. Over here we see in the gar you must say that the whole sug was talking about that each one moved a couple of inches forward one inch here one inch there so what's the what's the big over there if they all moved so they moved so each one did and they're all everything is great no tremendous it's actually preferable to use the 100 people versus one person doing the you want everybody to get involved Apostle the accepted the blood received the blood he gave it to the or that's it says from the fact that you have to give it back. So you see that it's not considered. So the says no maybe you have to redo maybe it is considered and he has to redo what he did has to go backwards or sorry now he's saying is saying the opposite maybe the should just continue from that point down in other words the did something and we don't care about that the should just continue from that point down that's what it means moving the hand that we're discussing until now the same thing it's not considered walking it's not considered moving and therefore you cannot have a bad now's question is so we're going to bring that case that we just had now If a isrol actually moved the blood, can we correct it or not? Is it correctable? Received the blood. He gave it to the Israel. What do you see from here? You could fix you can fix it. And even if you say that you don't have to go backwards, you just continue forward from that from whatever wherever the is brought it. But still it's a great riot that you don't that you can fix. You can continue. He didn't ruin it. If you think that you cannot fix, he passed the law. It ruins it. So theor says, "Oh, it it really makes a huge difference where this guy is positioned. Do you think that this the the is if the you see the the the co is the one in the white, the Israel is the one in the other color? If he's closer to the misbeh took it further away from the says that if you just the movement of the arm without the mo moving without without feet just with your arm even if a does it it's possible You see from over here apostle seems like you cannot fix it. It's not fixable. Oh, I love this. What's going on here? Think about it. Anytime liquid falls on a flat surface, what happens? >> It splatters where? >> In all directions. It can't splatter in one direction. It splatters in all directions. In other words, there's a forward movement of the blood. There's also a backward movement of the blood. Some of the blood is going to move in the direction of the misb. The kite is facing the mb. The whole bucket of blood falls on the floor. It goes red everywhere. Some of it goes two feet forwards towards the misbeh. That's problematic. That's like a monkey doing it. That's like a machine doing it. That's like you spilling it on the floor. You not bring That's movement towards the Now you want to take a squeegee and and then scrape it off the floor. And that's what you do because you got to you got to do zera somehow. So you you squeegee it off the floor. The problem is it's too late. The blood already moved towards him. You want to retract it and fix it. That's the question in the gar. Could you fix it? And he gathered it. It's okay. In other words, you can fix it. says no not a good blood did not splatter in the direction of the it splattered in the opposite direction opposite direction we already established is not considered that's the opposite of you're moving it away from the ask how's it possible that something hits the ground it goes only in the opposite direction it should go in in both actions. Okay. So here number one we're talking about it's on a slant. So yeah it's possible that when the blood hits the floor it only goes downwards away from the there's some sort of hole in the floor. So go straight down doesn't go towards the it's congealed. What we have a whole Mishna discussing these funny cases. It makes no sense. These are cases that never happen. Just it doesn't make sense that the mission would be talking about such a unique case. And now I have a a tremendous over here in the next parag says is it the next parish? Same case. Now, why do you have to tell me a funny case over there? I have in in our case that we're discussing right now, forget about another guy, the type of guy that did it. The our case the is you just told me it's only because it goes away from his back when it fell. Okay. So, the next case is when it was a flat surface and the blood when it hit the ground, it splattered in all directions. In all directions, now it's possible. Just tell me the same case in two different cases. Why do you have to go to another case to tell me [Music] it's again? What does it mean? A person moved the blood towards them with his hand, not with his feet. Says if you must move a lot, you must walk. It's a far distance to them. [Applause] If a person thought the let's say during that walk since it's a necessary walk, it's a necessary you ruined it. If you use your arm that is considered a minor movement, a minor that that we have laughed at this Rabbi said, "Here goes." Discussing this a lot. We might as well talk about it. Pretend this is the bird that you bring in the B of Mus. This is not it. It's usually a pigeon. I can't even bring myself to bring a fake pigeon here. Okay. The way it works is here. Let me first show you this. You hold the wings in a certain way with your fingers. I I'm not sure this 100% accurate, but with your long look, he even did a long nail. I like it cuz look at that nail over there. Cool. You give it a little fetch. A little fetch and uh the bird goes to sleep forever. Now with a bird, you don't take the the blood and pour it into a vessel. That's kabala. You don't do that. What you do is you take the actual bird >> and you walk over to the mak and you do something called huzzah. You toss it violently. You go like this. Boop. And some of the blood sprays out of the bird, hits him as Ba. Now says the Garra, what's going on here? How where exactly is this guy? Now, here's what's very super interesting. This is going to get everybody almost when I go like this right now. Right now, right now, right now, what am I doing or the Gamar calls that? This is right here at the last second when when the blood comes out. It's called but this would be I'm moving the bird towards the the blood towards the the so says where exactly am I having of where am I thinking that this is not a this is where am I thinking this [Music] how is it possible If the thought happened before the blood exited the the body of this bird, that's nothing. He didn't do anything yet. And if it's after the blood left, it's too late. The mitzvah was already done. Says, "You're missing one part. You forgot about one thing. What about in flight? The blood is flying through the air. Now, how far away is this guy? Think about it. the even uh major league pitchers in baseball if they were standing 20 feet away I don't think the blood is going to hit them as you know you're talking about a couple drops of blood it doesn't have enough velocity or whatever it's called so what mass doesn't have enough mass to fly that far so he's pretty close so he goes like this he's throwing it let's say five feet away maxed and it goes so as it's in the air he's stinging himself he's stinging himself this This is I mean not this is not bird this is a bird that's only in midair. So that that my this is a that every time I said that you all you need to do is two seconds of thought to change your to is two seconds. Here's the because to for the blood to to leave the bird and hit them is less than two seconds. It's not can't be more. You see is is a moment. That's it. One moment changes everything. Oh, [Music] one of these crazy questions. He's in the middle of doing and his arm pops out and falls down to the ground like a Lego man. Okay, so this guy's a mum. He doesn't have arm. No arm equals mum. So this guy through the blood asked for beria since the blood didn't hit the m yet and he just became a balum how because a monkey on the ceiling threw down a block of I don't know what and it chopped his arm off whatever the the case is and the blood didn't hit the yet it's considered as if a balm threw the blood yes when he threw it when it left the bird he was not a balum but in the ear he is a balm is considering he wants to know. They threw him at the later on. They brought him back in. They said, "Oh, he knows actually [Music] it's he's considered that he should throw the blood that should reach them. It's considered They came from the yeshiva of I'll tell you what this the funny thing was there was a there was a there was a with the the distant um walking was where you have to walk a long way and you had there since it's necessary to walk that that's where the see here what's happening moved the blood and then took it back to the to the and then so we're good we're already good and then can a correct what happened moved it away the comes and puts it back into place sons of and Rihanna what's that we go by the last movement the last movement is a good one I don't care what happened in the beginning somebody moved it away from the fixes it and the other says no once it's moved away from the from the it's it's finished right backwards now here's the Fine. He moved it away from just an interesting rashy here. Can you fix if somebody messes up onita? Can you fix it? >> Impossible. Can you fix? >> Yes. More blood. >> Oh, if there's more blood, yes. Very good. Now, the reverse question. So the the brought it to the zar takes it away from now what the one that says that we go by the last walking. So in the previous case that's kosher the the fixes it over here since the z moves it away we go by the last one as possible the kay brought it to the misb and took it away >> and then the the brought it right back. Yeah of 100% the brought it right back to the misb. So now it's in the right place but it was there in the right place. One one was not necessary at all to move it away was not necessary and then they cut then he brought it back. The question is could a guy ruin it in the middle or we go by the last and it's in the right place now. So when we go by the last one, it's possible. But if you go by the by by the first will be okay cuz the coin brought it initially was good after even if you go by the first it's still and the coin did the first in this case it's why it means you have to bring it you have to bring it back. So since you have to bring it back, it's considered if since you have to bring it back, it's necessary to bring it back to the in order to do this. We still have if you must walk in the to get to the that's consider where you can pass with your in a place where you don't have to walk then the doesn't ruin but if you accepted the blood far away from the means far away from and you brought it close to that's considered uh that you must do. Why? Because it's far away from the but if you receive the blood close to and you moved it far away that's a walking unnecessary way similar to that story that I said about the guy going to the wrong way. He gets he brought it to the and he moved it away from but you need to bring it back says since you never needed to move it away from this was already what was the point of moving it away from this since it's not necessary to move it away. So therefore it's not considered that you're doing something important when you bring it back. If you're walking something that's necessary so that you could have the wrong during that walk if you received it away from he brought it close but he received it clos but what if you brought it you you repeated you you fixed it you came you brought it It's only something that moves it away from the is not possible. But anything that you move towards the is possible. In other words, says will agree to the you could pass with the wrong during this. He's arguing his own father that what his father says you cannot pass while you're walking is not one of those that are necessary. He says yes. If it's far away and you have to get to them, it is necessary. [Music] >> Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today. mdysponsor.com or sponsor atmop.com.