CHAZARAH - Zevachim Daf 14 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

Good morning. So, we're talking about let me give you a quick uh reminder here the the certain carvanas that you bring into the and the sticks his finger into the cle and sprays the blood. The question is since it's necessary for him to to put his finger in the blood. So is that considered one of the aid one of the essential avoid that you have to do with the carbon and therefore if it's essential then he could mess up thinking about the wrong carbon instead. This is usually he's saying to himself oh it's a schlamim. Now if he's taking a break sitting in the B mikdash minding his own business they think oh I'm in the middle of doing that doesn't do anything you have to be in the middle of an you have to be in middle of middle of middle what about so is it considered the wants to know is it considered maybe that's the the walking the bringing it towards the the you can even see that curtain over there is supposed to be the in the says, "You could mess up with a bad thought during your sticking your finger into the blood." Nothing happens. It's nothing. This is considered walking moving towards like one of the four called the famous that we had yesterday. We had it a few times already. Shim says that since walking towards the misb is not necessary. Why is it not necessary? Because you could shuck the animal right by the misb. So the whole walking even though today it might be necessary. You shuffed the animal 400 ft away not 400 30 ft away from the so you must move towards the misb but since you don't need to you could have gotten away without it. You could have shucked it next to them. So it's not an essential not essential then your thoughts don't mess anything up says that you cannot be you can't think a thought of that then I'm going to eat it outside of the lot of time you can't think during during during during not it's not essential you saying then you have another big problem what are you talking about dunking your finger into the Any carbon that doesn't go onto the outer the outer is the regular misb that has a ramp. If if the carbon doesn't go on that then rib holds is no pigle at all. So all the carbonas that go on yipper the kipper carbonas or we have the the ones that we learned in with a mistake from the best and etc. There's no when there's no on these on that the regular that you do on the corners of the misbeh so you can't be okay you want to tell me holds that walking is not an essential but also holds that there's zero pigle so there's zero pigle what is he telling me oh when you dunk your finger in there's no pigle you can't do any pigle anyway any even in the part you can't do pigle So we're talking about there there's a difference between the inner kos and the outer kos the inner one means inside the when you walk inside here anything inside this building is called pimi it's inside and anything in the azara is called outside typically speaking katus is in the outside. So when you're talking about the sticking your finger in the blood if it's a outside kind of there's no sticking fingers in no you're not supposed to stick your finger in the blood you're supposed to take the cle supposed to take the vessel and toss it towards the m so therefore sticking your finger in the blood and thinking of of another animal of or outside doesn't ruin it but when you're talking about the inner where the Torah says that you should stick your finger in and do this thing all that that's all inside on Thursday we're going to now that we see just picture this this is where he is he's going talking about a regular somebody what's a typical he brings that's all done on the outside you don't go into the at all of course sticking your finger into The blood is not one of the doesn't say over there you should dunk your finger says it says he should take the blood if comes a monkey what's a monkey a monkey could be in our days the AI robot some some nonhuman comes and puts the blood on your hand oh so he says like this if a monkey comes and does and pours the blood onto the co's hand. That's not good enough. >> The k's going to have to take it by himself. So, it's as if it's as if the says you should dump your finger. Can go both ways. Doesn't say. It can mean either he did it, he took it himself or not. says that if a person has a thought about another animal during during taking the blood from the you can't make it possible very what does says I don't need to walk we're talking about this area right over here let's say let's say he could she it right over here next to them's and just tossed the blood right over here. But instead, he shifted it over here. So, this is not necessary. He could have done it over here. So, if he's walking, he's walking, walking, walking, thinking bad thoughts about different animals, different carabonas, it doesn't do anything cuz he could have been right over here. So, says the only because he he'sing right in this area. But if you need to check the on on this Thursday they take the the blood of the and they bring it they go up all these stairs they go into the this isam and this is this whole area this is right up here yeah this is where you have the and the kim there's there's a right over here this is the where he sprinkles the blood you see this red line right over here so this is the m this is where to do the he must take it from over here and walk there's no way for him to get all the way here without walking. So since it's essential so if he thinks about it if he thinks about another animal he can ruin it because now it's essential. Now here's the all we're going to discuss a very cool thing. Does he have to do it over here? And therefore, anything past this blue line is walking. That's essential. Or he could also do it in this red area. If he could do it in the red area, then this is not essential walking. He could do it right over here by this wall. The essential walking would be from this line upwards. As he's walking over here, then he thinks about it. That's the question. Why? This is the misb the is you have to do it. The north north of the misb is this way right over here. Is it the width of the misb in the blue or means any area in the entire north of the misb including the red. So now we have and the son of what's son's name >> says even in the red area you could do the the you could do the so you can do the in the red area. So he's going to do it in this box right over here right by the door to the ulam and the all this is not necessary. So let's say he shifted it over here on this box and he walked walked walked walked it's a not a necessary walk not a necessary walk you can't you can't make it possible this from this point on it's necessary so from this point on he could have of says the when you have to bring this inside He's thinking this is not a this is that makes a possible because this is a necessary to walk the blood all the way to the inside for him to sprinkle it all that that's necessary since it's necessary throughout that he could have the as says, "But there is no pigle when it comes to the at all lives soil." You're right. There's no pigle. I cannot think that I'm going to eat this meat of this in 6 months from now. That's called pigle. And if you eat it actually that not but you'll make it a psle you'll make if you do think that says it's not pigle in a pigle but it has enough power to make it possible and he has we know that if a person thinks when he's he thinks that it's a carbon it doesn't ruin the carbon he just has to bring another one but it doesn't ruin it Yet possible that same thought makes it possible when you come to you do there's only two in our first Mishna that if you think the wrong carbon it's possible completely which areas and carbon pes so you see the is more severe than if you have the thought of pagle thinking that you're going to put in the freezer for 6 months and make a barbecue in 6 months from now that makes it peel and it makes it puzle inim and it is Certainly that thought we're talking about not a regular reg of course works I'm talking about it should certainly ruin it and make it possible says okay remember there are two thoughts one could have when he's thinking when he's shifting he'sing the he's doing he's thinking I'm going to eat this meat of this carbon in 3 days from now. The the max he could eat it is 2 days. He thinks I'm going to eat in 3 days from now. I'm going to have a barbecue onus. Bam. It's gone. It's called you get if you eat it. There's another thought. He's thinking I'm going to eat this in not in your life. That's one is one is without carus but it's possible says I just proved to you that you could have the thought of how do I know that I could ruin it if I'm going to do a simple lim one from the other what is that called I see that ruins it also ruins it what is that called most simple limud There's another one. Okay. Similar. >> I I find this over here. I'm going to do this over here also. No, I can't learn from. Look at this chart. It says this is super severe. This is not. So, I can't learn something that's easier from something that's more. Let's learn it from another thing that possib no good. So if you have a bama and you think in the bama that this carbonim is actually a carbon did you ruin it or not? Yes, you ruined it. So you see but doesn't work if I think in Obama oh I'm going to eat the nams river but insh so that doesn't that doesn't ruin it. So you see that is more than soar has a nice here it caught us what are you doing you're doing guess what >> the only thing we're discussing here are two animals two and a pes both of those don't even work on a so you can't you got to take the bum out of here the whole concept of that you thought about the wrong it only passes two animals Oh, he's making me a tea. Don't worry about it. It doesn't even apply to so forget about it. Now, again, we're still trying to find a source that inner meaning you bring on. You could ruin it with a of I'm thinking to myself, I'm not going to eat this meat here in I'm going to eat in my this is a heish. This is not a messino. This is a heckish. What's a heckish here? Means if I find this over here, I'll use the same concept over there. Why not? Why would the different? This is different. means it's in the same it says over here and this is slightly confusing but throughout the whole sect it's consistent in the isle for us is don't get confused but that's how it is I don't know why they did it like that but when the garra says pagle the garra means this right over here you could only eat a carbon for two days or one day what if you did it for third day that's that's That's called the next. The next is pigle means in the it doesn't make a difference for to us. The bottom line is it has both of those one. And just like you see that applies itself to the carbon. So too here's my source. This is a heckish. Now what? So you can learn. You're asking me how do you know ruins? You have ruins it from I learned it from the same. Oh, here we go. Here comes [Music] like his own son. Here's this area right over here is called this area over here is called the in order to get into the you have to go through the misb this is very thick we'll talk about it in a second and come down here so the son of says from the all the way to in other words the red area is also considered a place where you could check animals agrees to his son this is not an essential area to cuz you could go all you could chuck right over here. You could chuck anywhere here. So if I could chuck anywhere, I could chuck right by the doorway to the therefore if I'm walking from here to here. I can't ruin anything cuz it's not essential. Only from this entrance. This is the entrance to the inwards. When he starts walking from herea d in here all the way to here, that's where he can mess up with a with a thought. Now one more. This is of this is levina frankincense in the right over here. This is there were two bikin two spoonfuls of this. Now on shabas kesh they would remove the two spoons of lev come out of the and burn it. Now they could burn it says right over here also they could burn it anywhere. This this uh this levina is similar to zeram because once you burn the levina once you burn this you're able to eat the bread only then could you eat the upon him so it gives you a gives you like a kapara it's like putting the kit on the mb like putting the blood on the m it allows you to do something once you once you burn this it allows you to do the next that I can mess up in the as I'm bringing this in the spoon outside of the into the to burn it. That's an during that I can mess up and say I want to eat the bread next month. Boom. Bread is gone. If you hold like that says I could right over here in the red area. I could burn this then I cannot ruin it with my bad thought while I'm moving I'm bringing the the frankincense. It only works from here to here. That's the only place I can have a bad thought. Why? Because right over here I could burn it. I don't need to walk over here. I could burn it right here. So my only and I'm already in the So I from the entrance of the right over here. You see it says I don't know if you can read it but it does say it from here to here is where I'm messing up. What a Somelam. How do you say like a hall? This is a hallway before you walk into the Vestib okay foyer vestible foyer is good >> vestible if you hold that this area and this area are are considered one look they're in like one building it's one so ma even though even though your is up here but walking here is nothing it's considered one room so then where where could I have a bad thought the whole red area I can't have a bad thought the whole and I can't have a bad thought where do I have a bad thought in the thickness of this black wall right over here. This black wall is 10 ft wide. You ever heard of a wall? 10 ft wide wall. In those 10 ft, since it's the entrance, it's like a doorway. It's like a frame of a door. So when you're walking through the frame, 10 feet, I don't know how long it takes to walk 10 feet. A couple of seconds. In those seconds, I can think, "Oh, I'm gonna eat this in two weeks from now." in those five and some people say listen the the the frame of a door is like the inside of the room zero time to have a thought. However, when he goes like this, when he moves his hand from the entrance of the of the out into the that movement in that millisecond, I could have a thought. Now we have a whole is going like this moving your hand. Is that or means like we know it in the dictionary to walk. So if you hold that this is not walking then there's zero time to have a bad thought of with or with the frankincense every they would speak low and they would have a microphone. They would have a speaker system. the the speaker the >> the muran he the would speak low and the scream it out. So he tells tells listen you have an in with you see him every day you're there ask him a question this whole walking you just told me it's not necessary and especially in this area that area what if walks it does he ruin it or not say answers back it's it's good can do it and I have a going to him up and say it's not true it says in The isro is going to the pes which he can understand the the takes the blood from the in other words did and the took the blood from it doesn't make any sense what you just said that we're this is what we're talking about and somebody who lost a close relative that day he drank too much Too many at the kish club person who has a mum. How do you say mum in English? >> Flemish in all the what does it just say? Let's just take those words and don't go together. You just told me that is can do because it's not necessary. Okay, that's not important to us. We know that end the story that's a checkmate. How can you tell me that is could do this is no good. Not only that, and we're going to go back to these two words, these two sentences. Somebody sitting in the midle using your left arm bomb is always bomb question. Not just it's a it's the end of the story. Nothing you can do about it. The crook is brought up. No, you can't bring a ride from the You're right. The took from the the was a clut. He stood there like a like a like a shelf. He just stood there. He didn't move. It doesn't say that he was walking. The kind took it from his hand. He stuck out his hand. The kind put it on his hand. Took it from his hand. He was just helping him. >> Did he do that? That means >> No, no, no, no. The cabal somebody else that you have to stick in. Look at Rashi K did the Kabala then he then the original is that did the went ahead and did says I read a lot of words here. Okay, so we have if or not does he ruin it that says that it's not a necessary so could do it. Why not? He's not doing anything. He's not doing an essential. Therefore, it's okay with the Israel that say that's essential. How how do you explain here? We know that Israel could do it. It's not something you could do away with. How is it possible that Israel does it? You just told me if it's if it's if you could do away with it like walking to the back, you don't need it. Okay, so Israel could do it. And what about how could do it? Boom. Bomb. It's not an why. How do I know? Because all these can do it. But something that's an avoid something that that apostle can't do it. Then then of course it it then it's possible when does it we're talking about a when a does the passes the so you see it is it says it says the word it also says means and says the famous so that means this is the way it needs to get done can't do it so you see that shiny part we're throwing something out here there's two concepts similar to we had uh Uh uh what's the word? >> Now then we have something very similar. You have an animal that you designate as for the that's super high means for the maintenance of the mikdash. I'm I'm dedicating an animal. Well, I know you can't put it on the Why? Because it's missing one leg, but sell it and whatever money you have from it, you'll give to the to the up of the Badum is in the category of and therefore what therefore what it's not considered is not considered a says we have what basically is stepping away from what we just said. It's not. He says, "Listen, this is considered considered by something as low as a as a considered. Of course, it's an how does do it? You know that when a who could look at a at a tarass only one person a even but nobody's going to tell you that looking at a is an it's not so also you you need a you need a just like he looks at it's not because I want a to do it says where was it right over here take a Rabai. Oops, wrong one. He brings the He brings the im he brings the carbon parts onto the and tosses it into the fire. [Music] I can do away without him walking. How do I do away without him walking? If I shut it right by the and I just toss it under, I don't have to walk. Yet cannot do it. might say over there and you're right. So you need to bring it on to that there's no you don't have to bring the the meat. It's not essential to theap. We said the kapar happens when rais to put the meat on top of the that happens much later and if you forget to do it you still have a kapar you can't undo a kapara the guy had an hour ago yet it's necessary for to do it to walk the blood if you don't do it you don't get akin certainly you need a not is so that should answer our question do you need is to do the I mean do you need a to do and ifra does it it's possible or not. It seems like it does says Rashi. There's a bomb question that Rashi asks. Think about it. On the one hand says that if you walk the blood to the and you have a thought of oh this is not a this is what does say nothing. Why nothing? Cuz I don't need it. So if you don't need it and is does it how does it become possible? You don't need it. So why could make you how could ruin it by doing it? You don't it's not necessary. Says Rashi you're right. You can't have a thought of while you're walking it. Interesting thing. Let's finish over here. Unfortunately, Raoai have a wonderful day. [Music] >> Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today. mdysponsor.com or sponsor at mdyop.com.