CHAZARAH - Zevachim Daf 111 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] We're holding fire lunch in the bottom. First, we're going to talk about pouring the water. Then we're going to flip into right into the wine. So that's the minimum three of water. That's the only time you pour water on the sukus. If you do that outside, we continue with the whole of things that you're not supposed to do outside. If you filled up this cle I'm just showing you the okay, we don't need to see this because this is really for the next thing. If you filled it up for sukus asked the what is the difference? You have to fill it up for sukus. If you don't fill it up for sukus if you take this cup of water and you spill it outside the why would I be it has to be because this cup of water is for the this is special water. I had intent that I'm going to pour this on the inside. Then I went I poured it outside. So then what is what are they arguing? What is saying? Oh, if you filled it up for for then says you have to fill it up for sukus. So here here's the shaw. It doesn't say it in the gimar exactly. What does it mean if there's a shear? The question is are you allowed to fill the k with more than three log or even less than three log. In other words, does when you fill up the cle does be exactly three log or it could be even more. But if you hold it has to be exact has to be exact. It can't be less and it can't be more. Now according to it has to be exact. Not a drop more and not a drop less. according to it could even be more. Okay. So that's one. Now if you hold by the way if you hold that you can't have more water more than three log. So then the cle wasn't kadesh anything. So you put in a cle have a giant cle that holds five log instead of three log and you put in too much so nothing becomes kadesh. >> Three kadesh. >> What? >> Second you get to three it's kadesh. >> No. What's kadesh? Which part? Nothing. It doesn't have >> No, I don't think so. >> I hear what you're asking, but it doesn't that the the the fact is it doesn't doesn't remain. In other words, everybody holds. You need exactly three. You can't go more than three. Just what we're going to see in the Gmorra soon. Shiloh whether or not there was wine pouring in the midbar. Now if there was wine pouring in the midbar then when they came into the way it worked comes into and there's a 14-year period where they conquered and what's the next word? divided >> divided, conquered and divided, >> right? We know right after the 14 years there was a there's a mishkun the whole thing but and now we'll see later but during those 14 years what happens now if there was in the midbar if they brought wine in the midbar so when comes into then they continue bring wine you see in the side it brings the when you enter the question is what happened? What is the Torah telling us to do when you come in? So if there was in the midbar so obviously the is not saying oh bring when you come because we already brought we're already bringing wine in in the midbar. So we continue to bring wine in the midbar. So then what then the toy is saying that even on the small bama what's small bama it could be massive but it means your private ba in your backyard when you come because we don't have we don't have a place for so the is saying even when you bring a carbon on your bum in your backyard you bring the now think about it does the telling you to bring it in a cliches or without a clicharus It's in your private backyard with a clear without a clicharis. >> Without it's impossible. You can't you can't use a kichar. You don't have a kichar. What you think everybody has a golden k in their backyard? Is even if you did it's reserved for the mdash for a special place. So the is saying you brought in the midvar continue bring these when you come is meaning bring it in your backyard. meaning without a clichus. I don't want you to bring it with a kicharis. But if the ty if there's no in the midbar Oh man, what's this? What are you showing me here? Gan, it's coming up. It's me blowing my nose. [laughter] [snorts] >> It's in the last few days only. So >> so if they didn't bring the in the midbar then the saying bring the when you come inside so oh so is going to say that you need a cle and according to the you don't need a another according to everybody. We're going to go back according to everybody there's there's and there's wine in the midbar and you don't need a clich's wine in the midbar. So the T saying continue doing when you come into meaning you don't need a clich however the question is I learned the water from the wine there was wine but what about water the just like the wine does not need a clich also doesn't need clichar no or perhaps w water does need a clich's different than the wine now we're talking about wine If you pour three L of wine, which is the minimum of wine that you pour three outside of the like we said before, same thing like we said before says what does he and what's they all hold. You have to do a cle. So we're going to come up with new over here. We know what that is. Anything above the rim, whether or not is the cle it's not in the cle. It's above the cle. Now, why does it remain above the cle? Who cares? Service tension. Google it. That's not that's not today's sh. It's beyond my scope. The point is that if it's above the rim, whether or not that's the whole great according to no, it's not kadesh. You see that? Anything above the rim in this beautiful picture is not kadesh. It has to be below the rim according to above the rim is also called that's how do you see that in the words I'm not exactly sure the the son of different on the smaller in other words the in your backyard which is why did they pour wine over there whether or not there there's wine poured on a private. And by the way, it's the same which we already mentioned. Now it's it says in the that is telling us that there's no in the midbar and therefore what when you come into I want you to start doing for the very first time on the the major Maybe the is that it goes in a smaller bum. Meaning that in the midbar they did bring wine. They did pour wine in the mah. Therefore, when the Torah tells you to continue pouring wine, the Torah is telling you continue pouring wine in your backyard without a clich. No. I'm telling you for all the okay [clears throat] I'm sorry not all the bumas but the major bama the bama that works for everybody for the he argues he says the exact opposite the is telling you continue bringing the because you were bringing the midbar are continue bringing now also on your private meaning without maybe the Torah is telling you that they they didn't bring and you should start bringing for the very first time when you come into on the the public it say plural in other words this bama is everywhere there's only So if it's talking in in a plural it means on all your private as well. So what comes out from this comes out. So it works out beautifully. According to they didn't bring inbar and that's why the tells you to start bringing in when you come well but according to where they brought in the midbar. So what's the telling you? continue bringing the in your private backyard. Great. We have to do all this in 15 minutes. Not a big deal. Says if you do this, you all remember this. We got to take the sound off of this is the leftover blood. After you do, you pour the you throw the blood on the What do you do with the leftover? So you put it into the into the drainage over here. Now says that if you do that, you pour it outside of the that can only mean one thing. That must be that pouring of the blood into the drainage is part of that. It's not, oh, I have nothing to do with this. Let me put it away. Fine. >> [snorts] >> Okay. Uh uh. What is this? That if you put the blood on there is How could you tell me that your is just leftover? It's interesting why he answers him this. He has another answer. The says later and this proves us something. Now what? He says, "Let me prove to you. You're done with the with the with the animal. How are you done? We learned. So we know that what's what finishes off is the of the blood after that if you do things you don't do things is not and you don't put it under no it's not the end of the world you still get a shame yet even though the blood is the the but if you take the bring it outside on outside of the carus So you see that even though it's you could still get cursed. So the blood also so it's not but you brought it outside you should get cursed. No. You know why? Because it's a brand new called putting the and and whatever you meat you have to put on. It's it's the end of it's not the beginning of so therefore since to put that's why but is the end of that's why you shouldn't be if it's true [snorts] that what do you mean now I have another answer completely this is in the leftover blood that belongs inside the but that we're talking about blood that belongs in that nobody holds that it's so is talking about inner bloods and those so so you ask me a question from some other place that's talking about so you could always answer it's The outer the inner ones are says so takes out this thing. But the point over here is how come didn't answer that he was talking about blood the inner bloods. Why does he go and tell him ohim and tell him no we're talking about two different bloods. One is one is not. But at the end of the day, he himself holds that the blood is part of he's saying according to you that you hold it's not I'll still tell you that look aim you know then he starts telling him about here let's do this for a second together I think this will help a If you do malika, that's the only way to to kill a bird to the bird. I don't want to say she because that's but to kill a bird in the mid, the only way is to do it with your thumb. So if you do malik inside the mdash and you take that bird and you bring it outside of mdash, what's the why? Because you did what you need to do. You killed it perfectly with your thumb and then you took it outside. What about you did Malikica outside and you brought it outside. You potter. Why? There's no such thing as malika outside. So by you doing malika outside, you just you made an aa. That's all you did. You can't eat this animal. We're going to call that number two. What's number three? Inside you don't she the bird. We're talking about birds now. You don't you don't take a knife and cut a bird inside of mdash. So if you did that inside and then you took the the bird the dead bird and you put it on his back outside very similar to Malik outside Malik outside and inside are the same thing they both don't work malika doesn't work outside of mikdash and doesn't work inside and finally for number four outside which is perfect that's how that's what you do to a bird you shut the bird outside and we're talking about a a bird that belongs in the b mikdash But you it outside and then you put it on outside. So yeah, these are the four cases. Let's see inside. It's very important to know this. We're going to be using one, two, three, four instead of actually talking about cases. I'll say the case also, but the numbers help a lot. Now why? Because it's the words are easy. It just gets confusing because inside outside by the way all they all end out the same thing. It's all the same. The question is what did he do inside the malik or did he do malik outside inside that's it that's the whole now we're doing he did malik to a bird inside that's what he's supposed to do but then he took the dead bird and brought it outside but if he did something you're not supposed to do you don't do malik outside and if you do malik the bird outside what happens the bird becomes Next case, that's case number two. Case number three, heed a bird inside the so what happened? He made it possible and he took it outside cuz all he did was he he passled the bird. Now it's a possle. If he checked it outside where you're supposed that's what you're supposed to do but it's it's a cotton bird and he put it on top of the on the what is once or twice how many how many was over here two so it comes out that you know what Kobe worked hard I told him not to do this but he insisted to do it inside okay whatever I just wanted Those those those straight lines. I like straight lines. Here I'm going back to mine. Here we go. Sorry. How do you make a bird kosher inside the bdash with Malik? If you use that that system outside of that makes you potter. How do you make a bird kosher outside? So if you use that method inside now this is today's anything that you you are remember these words outside now he says this line besides so on on this chart right over here besides number three [snorts] besides that I agree. What did he say? What exactly did he say? So that's today's and it's very very simple with this chart. What are you telling me? This is the it's not a that makes it. It makes it not good. You're right. You have to stick in the word. What's referring to? What is he arguing on? Let's say he's talking about the first two things. If he does the inside, you bring it outside. One, that's one. Two, if he did the outside, you're not supposed to then you. And on that comes to argue just like number one. Number two, not potter. The problem is doesn't fit into his words. Why does he say that whatever outside? No, he's saying just like number one. What's number one? Malik inside. So you should have said just like inside so outside. That's not what he said. He said just like outside so too inside. Doesn't work. Okay. The end is going to go back to this. That maybe this is what he meant. Maybe what he meant to say is just like number two rabbi say see number two malik outside you're potter so to number one you should be potter he's not saying that also doesn't work he should have said a different different words whatever you're not since you're not outside that's not what he said he says and he and he should have said the word a is missing right cuz we're saying just like number two you're potter so to number one you're that's not what he said he said just like he didn't say you potter okay so that doesn't work now we have to go to the number three and four what does it say in the three and four it's potter if you the bird inside that's not what you're supposed to do so therefore you potter but you are supposed to birds side. Therefore, just like you're not and number three, so too that's why four should also be the problem is that he says just like should be he should have said the same question that we had before. Yeah, boy. Is he holding with me? It's portion just like a number four. Oh, that's what that makes more sense with what he said. He said, "Oh, just like so too, you should be the only one that's is number four. Four and three. Three is so he's arguing number three. Let's flip three to make it." But the problem is he says the last words of the Mishna is that number three I don't I'm not I'm not arguing number three. Number three is going to remain. How can you how could you change number three to make it to be check this out? Oh here we go. Check this out. We're adding five and six. So five and six is identical to three and four. Just we're talking about there's an animal here, not a bird. We're talking about famous and at night. Okay. So inside at night is just like three. Three and five are the same. Three and and and five was also and six is six is like four. Great. So what did he regain? Because over here it's a little different because it's and we don't have the concept in Allah. That's the only difference. That's the this is what is arguing in other words saying that you're missing from the two cases. It's a kind of it was missing but it's understood when started talking he obviously was talking about a different case a case not mentioned in Mishna case number five and six great that the holds five and six like this and argues says no they're both like number six he argues I I argue you five and six are both not potter by the way I besides number three number three I I I agree is potter five and six is three is potter that's the whole that's what he's arguing great is doing the same exact idea but let's check this out a different five and six if you with mundane let's say your neglass or you know what you wash your hands for you do a over here also. Here we have a five and six comes and says no both five and six are anybody but I'm not going to argue number three in that case he now says according to if you the bird inside of oh I'm sorry which is number one. So now it's one and two. You could say the whole thing like we start off the whole is arguing and one and two. One and two the rat that what two over here the say is going to say we had a problem with that. It doesn't fit into the wording. So actually is not five and six. You don't have to add anything to Mishna. We're going back to what we had before. What was it? Just four cases in the Mishna. And he's arguing on number two. Says number two is says now what do we do with the wording? Fine. We'll just fix up the wording a little bit. Now the wording makes a lot of sense. It fits right in. Have a wonderful week. Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today. mdysponsor.com [music] or sponsor at mdyop.com.