CHAZARAH - Zevachim Daf 100 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] [singing] Good morning. If a person h his father's nif that day, could he bring a carbon pes at night? Pes you don't eat a car. It's is one of the only two mitzvah. What What are the two mitzvah in the you can't answer Benny? bought two mitzvah right and carbon pes you don't eat pesus person buries his father that night it's pes could he eat the carbon pes we have a contradiction on the one hand he says he should eat on the other hand it's in the bra he shouldn't eat what do you do so we have a bunch of troos and today we're going to see three new ones let's go through what we learned yesterday simple stuff says kadina It's a mistake. It's not a mistake. It was just thrown in there [snorts] because always goes together with so we said it was just the is used to saying he wasn't serious. The real is you're supposed to eat a carbon at night. That's next. Then we have says something very simple. He says you're supposed to eat a carbon pes. He also agreed he's supposed to eat a current PE after you bury your father. [snorts] It says he shouldn't. It's not talking about current PE. It's talking about something called the we'll just go through this cuz whoever didn't see this year it's to see this once in a while. >> There are five carbonas a human being a person should bring on PES. So if Msiah comes this year, you have to remember don't just bring a little sheep and my car. No, there's a lot more that you have to do. You have to bring every time you go up to the boys I remember this you heard in first go out and get that extra carbon you got to bring a special hello I'm here I'm here to see you bring another carbon and here this is the one we we're talking about right now special carbon for what's cuz you need to eat meat you need to be you have to f on the current pes typically you have 20 30 40 100 people in one carbon everybody gets a little a bite. >> So, but you need to be a >> or at least a but you can divide it up by many people and sometimes you do and you have a large family you're not going to starting 25 but you need other meat. So, you bring and then you also bring and then finally the only one we care about is this this one. So he's saying that because it comes together with the carbon pes it's to fill up your body in order to eat the pes. So it has somewhat to do with carbon pes. So in that you should know that by the way since you are a not you he is an he does not eat he doesn't that he can't do >> the swan the car that he should eat not next finally we're holding by today so in order to understand today not we don't have to understand it but I want to make it very very simple A few very important things here. First of all, let's do something simple here. There are four categories that we're going to be talking about. They go in order of extre in what's the word? Extremity in what? Severity. Severity. Good. That's a better word. The day of the death of a of a father, mother, a close one. Obviously number one that's the the worst the worst of the worst that's that is anos and the that's like the day his kids died [laughter] [clears throat] something else though it's called what's the day that they bury the dead here in in Israel you have it all the time uh anif comes from America comes from France England It's not the day he died. It's usually the following day. 3 days later is the day a person heard about the dar. [snorts] Now in our s we're talking about within 30 days but that happened after the war after the holocaust. People heard that their a loved one was nif and it happened six years ago. That day what do you do? is there needs that day. It's much less than the much less than certainly than and finally this we're going to be talking about all four things today. What's super interesting about today's d is like a lot of new stuff. Nothing difficult but new. A lot of new happened in the time of the Gar. They would put the the body into a cave. That was the minute. put it in a cave and then come back like 12 months later and just gather all the bones, put it in a small box and bury the box. That's how they did it back then. voice. I we have to remember there's two there's two things that are there's no is about these two things and there's no in this side when a person hears that his father died that day it's that day he's there that day he sees his father nifer says That day it's that's in the that's what during the day it's what about that night. What about that night? So that night it's either exactly like the day that theos or it drops down one level and it would make it what a night would be the now let's go to we're going to do it again it's going to we're going to repeat on the day of the so he he died on a Sunday they bury him on a Monday that day special that you don't put on fill in you don't do mitzvah. [clears throat] Everybody agrees. Everybody agrees that it's the Raon. It's not even a question. Everybody agrees that that day is only the Raon. What about the night? We're going to do the same thing that we did by the either it's exactly like the day that it's what it's the or we're going to take it down one step and it becomes what? Nothing. Zero. >> So now let's see. on the day of the according to everybody's on the day of of according to everybody's now what about the what do we say >> it's either it's the same as the day or we take it down one step and make it a what about either it is on at right or nothing. Okay. So now that we know this >> it makes a lot of things easier. Now now three more explanations of this contradiction in the two braces. One B says says that somebody who lost a close one eats a car and says he does not have. So now I showed you the first slide. There's mis and this and that's his distinction. That's all he's saying here. There's a bunch of words here. He's saying depends when he died. If he died of Pes then you don't bring a carbon you don't bring you don't bring a carbon pes that night why because the night is like the day and he's at night in cannot eat a car was we don't care he died forget about the he died the day before now it's much less Now he was only buried there. ah he's buried and explains he died on the 14th of that's when you bring the car holds we don't we didn't have that yesterday but he holds it that night the night of the of the is like the day of the that mean that means what that does not bring a car he doesn't put on fill in that day he doesn't bring a are in that day. But what if he died a day earlier and the was on the now there's a lot of about right we're not going into them a lot a lot of uh a starts by the certain things start by I think there's a whole need we're not going to get into it when's the yard side is the yard here the yard there different things I don't know fine but if the if the burial was on the 14th is of the opinion that there is that night but only the only that doesn't push off [clears throat] the current pes which is [snorts] okay so now we're going to go a little bit into this and if you don't like this terret then we have a brand new coming up in a few minutes of mari how does this fit into to what we learned over there in that we're discussing the contradiction in his in his says he tells him oh you know it's we said that should should dunk in the mikvah we had this yesterday and eat a current pes you're telling me the is talking about the day of the burial not the day of the death the day of the burial which is only I'm talking to you about A and you're answering B. I'm talking about a day of the death and you're answering me the day of the [clears throat] Okay, so it's a good next term. I love this terret and in fact Ra says something almost the same thing same idea listen to this when do you have to bring a carbon so he says he says what if the dead per the guy died at 10 in the morning 10 in the morning is before so the the the son became an if he became an it took effect it took effect he cannot bring a car in Pesh the following hour. He's already when when when the current PES came around. But what if 12:00 came? Let's call 12:00. He has a to bring a current PES. At 12:05, his father dies. Too late. I have a [clears throat] to bring a car. I I It went into effect. Went to effect. Went into effect. The bra that says you have to bring is because he had he had and his father died after the says you don't have to bring is because his father died early in the morning and he became before you know to say oh so now we have a very simple gar all the way to the bottom famous mitzvah and actually there's a story here a little bit of a it says in the a has to be to his mace >> what does that mean so person a person has a a dead person he has his wife is nif he's he has to go and make a funeral he can't be at saddic and say no what do you mean by saddic we'll see in a second if he doesn't want No, they take him. They forcefully take him and throw him in there. Says, there's a story with who his wife died on and he didn't want to be said. It happens to us a lot where we have like a battle between two mitzvah. What should you do? And so the idea is that you don't go after your own rotten your wants. You have to go with rotten Hashem. What does Hashem want? So here he has a guy he has a situation a situation. He wants the im wants to eat pes. He wants to eat pes but his wife is laying dead over there. So he calls up you guy you take care of her. I need to bear because if I touch her then I can't eat. If I go to I can't eat carb. What does Hashem want? Not what you want. I know. I understand you want to be all the that you have and everything with the P. But what does Hashem want right now? That's the They made a They made a vote and they said, "No, you you can't put it on somebody else. You have to become and deal with your wife and therefore what for what's a what's what's the punch line here?" >> And therefore, he could not eat carbon pes. But if what if I show you in a Brier that says he should eat carbon pesak? So we have a contradiction. very meaningless. But here's the contradiction. So I'll show you real quickly here. I I'll say the words and then I'll explain to you why I'm showing. Sometimes they show it and I forget to tell you why. It says by and his sister he should not become to the sister. >> What do you mean? It says that he should not go to the lev of his sister. What's the problem? Tell you what the problem is here. Here's the problem. Because in it says If you read the puzzle and you stop right over there, it's obvious you cannot go to a sister's when a person is a n you can't go to her, you can't go to a father, you can't go to mother. It says it doesn't say oh but if it's a sister yes and the problem is why does it say why forward and the basically says from all these you learn we're going to see soon basically the same just each one gets stronger and stronger. So what do you learn from person is on the way to to bring his pes or to give a brisma to his son. Why is he going to give a brisal to his son? Says rashi is interesting. You think he's just going because you know person is going to get to bris. So he's going to bris that's why. No, this is rash. He's going to the bris because he wants to bring a carbon pes because you cannot eat a carbon pes if your son doesn't have a briso and you cannot eat a carbon if your slave doesn't have a it's from so if he's on the way cuz he's trying to do something for the and he heard that somebody in his family died you think that he should go to the is is Right. Should not become He should eat. He should He should eat the car. It says, "Oh, perhaps if you find a body on the street, nobody's dealing with it. That's different. We're going to see that these four words, I'll just I'll I'll spoil it for you. all the way to the end of the same thing are all there to tell you that a mitzvah you find the dead person even if the person is a even if the person is a [clears throat] he has to be to the mitzvah is the number one thing you deal with it maybe maybe a should also be a not touch because it's extra you only don't go to your sister you got to deal with says what's but we have a we have a contradiction they made him touch his wife they threw they threw him right over the fence into the and over here it says you shouldn't make him tell me obviously the only way to answer this is up is to say before and after like said what when do we make him when do we say that you should eat a pes you he should not become tom is if his father died after his was so how come they made him touch because it died before. So the of his wife came before the of and therefore they made him touch maybe both these stories have it's just learned to pos if he wants to he could if he doesn't want to he doesn't have to soak that they forced him goes like the other force the person the says you don't it doesn't have to be forced the car goes like says that's impossible why the whole thing is you can't stick in all of a sudden in the middle goes like why do I know the we're going to see this whole this whole long thing which is super simple and and and almost repetitive but it goes like [snorts] it says so does not go to any funeral even his relatives may in other words it starts with obviously he doesn't even go to strangers he certainly and and and even even close relatives love mitzvah and the word love comes to say that he shouldn't even go to he shouldn't he he should deal with the mitzvah so what do you do with the mother what if he's plus he's a so we just added another layer he's not only but he's also cut. So he should deal with the what do you do with the word top of the top even the highest level has to and he finds he must deal with him. He's on the way to do is the two mitzvah that have you think that he should be? No. Says says a very similar tero the same kind of concept. Very simple. If they already performed this and this on this carbon and then his father dies. So he already the thing he goes and he eats he eats the carbon. He already you already did most of it. But if they didn't they didn't start the practice yet. There's no and his father dies then no you don't eat the carbon. if it's true. They already you already brought your carbon relax. What do you have to eat it for? Why does he have to eat it? No, you must eat it because if you don't eat it, then what you brought the carbon you it is zero. It's not enough to bring not to abdomen. You weren't y to anything tells you you should hear what he said. Listen to what he said. It's perfect what he said. Rao was right. Said if you don't eat it then he's right. What is what does it mean? Okay. So let's go back to this this just so the doesn't go check this out. What do we have? We have so far the day the person dies, the day the person is buried. So there's the day of the death and the day you find out of the death. Rash says that over here we're talking about not after the holocaust. I heard that the father died in 1942 and now is 2025. It's within 30 days. This is it's close like I've read close by. So the day the day that you hear about the death is like the day of in other words you you start you start this you just to understand these words when you hear about a mace [snorts] what happens to to the you hear somebody hears that is His father was lived there 3 weeks ago. Okay. He's on a cruise somewhere. He's on a safari. He comes out of his safari. He says, "Oh, you didn't hear. They buried your father 3 weeks ago. Now what?" And it's PES. He's back for Pes. So it says that is that's the same as as the day that they gather the bones, which is not that severe. In other words, that he he he goes into the mikvah. He does a and he eats not only he eats all which is even lighter. Now just pay attention to these words now because we're going to use it later. Not a big deal. But means the day of the burial and the day of he he dunks in the mikvah and he eats kachum. So it says there's a contradiction here. On the one hand you say on the one hand you say that the day that you hear about the father's death that happened 3 weeks ago I'm saying it's within 30 days that's the day you have to start shiv right away everything but for it's lighter it's less. Why is it less? If if would be like would be different the day of the burial then of course you don't eat. It's only like the day when you hear about a dead a dead person. It's like a day of gathering the bones. That's why you're allowed to eat the carbon ba because if it was like a day that of of the burial itself then you don't eat. You don't eat. So what I see from it the day of burial you don't eat. And then wait a minute. It says even the day of the burial. We explain means even the day of the burial. This is incredible. The day of the burial. Think about it. A guy goes to his own father's. He's watches the kabur dunks in the mikvah and eats the current place of the night. So the gumar is going to answer that doesn't mean the day of the burial means something else. That's that's the Gar's attempt. It says over here contradiction on the day of the burial. Do you eat the carbon? You don't eat the carbon. Says yes and says not. Okay. I don't know what to do with this. It's when does the Jewish calendar start? At night. So if they buried him on Sunday evening before that's day one. Then comes sunset. That's day two. It's another day. That's why you eat. Hold on. I'm not there yet. Everything happened right before. That's why you're allowed to eat the following evening the current it's another day. It's a different day. But if they bury the person after so the following so the whole day is part of that day and therefore you cannot eat. So me we're saying that the day that you hear about the death is like the day that you gather the bones and you're allowed to eat you're allowed to eat the pes. Now even though the anos over here this is where Rashi says even though the anos over here is the raan but in this case they they they became strict and they said we don't care you're not going to eat the carbon in this case even though this is the but the bottom line is we're coming forget about everything we're coming for this line right over here we're talking about if they gather the bones you're saying you're allowed to eat the carbon. Why is he allowed to eat it? He already shuffed the carbon. Why should he get to eat it? He already on that. We're going to say no. You can't just be Let's just do two more lines. Oh yeah, we're the whole and it seems like on the day of the burial you do. It's a contradiction. On the one hand, it seems like you do eat a car and pencil. On the other hand, you don't. No. No. It's not in the day of the that you eat. It's the day of the is when you gather the bones which is much lighter. The day of the [cough] [clears throat] mistake. We're not even talking about that. We're talking about the is not good. If it's like you, it should have said and not it's a mistake. Have a wonderful day. [music and singing] >> Meritus of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today. mdysponsor.com or sponsor at mdy.com.