CHAZARAH - Zevachim Daf 10 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[Music] A person he ate. So he brings a and the messed up and said that it should be what is that called. So if he messes up the type of it is it's kosher. He goes from kosher. However, this is also a different type of but it's so different that it's like changing it to another type of carbon and they didn't they didn't sin. We spoke about it the other day. They bring because this is the procedure how you get out of your tuma how you finish up the kapara the not the kapara but the whole procedure. You bring this you bring that a whole bunch of that. So if you if you told the the bringing for and he switches it to which is a completely it's but it's for a gift. It's not for it's just like switching to [Music] doesn't mean it's means that it's like an it's like an it's like a gift. So we have a shil remember this question cuz son is going to say something that the is going to say. So what was your father's question? So what are we talking about here? We're changing the type of what's we're changing the is changing the ownership. He asks what about does that you bring if you god when you're what about if the switch from what's the question they're both they're both they're both carus it's the same thing so it's not a big deal when you walk into it depends how wealthy you are there's a whole scale if you're if you're poor if you're rich if you're rich you bring a an animal if you're poor You bring birds and if you're super poor, you bring you bring a maybe not. So he says, "Forget the Oh, it does say it does say take over here does say on the side." So comes Raan and says my father said that when a messes up between and even the two most similar kurbanas they're both in the same ple they both have the same very similar one is for eating one is for eating dam no like we said before it's poss has to be exact. The has to be very precise. You bring it for don't mess up to them. I don't understand how you could tell me such a thing in the name of your father. So what's question? What happens if he mixes up between a tod? Of course, in that case, it's no good. Even you said is no good. So certainly Mikadash is no good. You messed up. He says, "No, no, no. You don't understand my father. You're talking about going from one type of carbon to another type of carbon." No, no, no, no. My father's question was same thing. If the messes up and says that this should be instead of somebody Ruven who ate it's for Shim who ate blood it's two different people now and or some that's possible and if he says that he's changing ownership for somebody that's then it's why because it's something completely different like so therefore asked the question what happens if I change and I go to is it similar to it and in switching bum would be a problem or is it dissimilar? It's not similar to it and therefore it's okay. The guy is in the process of doing what? What is he doing? He's thinking in his brain >> again. He's doing but in his brain he's thinking about that he's going to mess up the ines. In other words, when he does this, it's a lot of information. When he he's thinking to himself, when I do this, you see that it says over there. Oh, if you zoom in over here, now everything is he's doing this for now. He's doing of he's thinking I'm going to do with this blood. So, we're asking like this. the animal with the intent to throw the blood that I showed you here. This one right here on thing. This is similar but nothing not really to pigle because pigle also in middle he's thinking about when he's going to throw the blood what day he's going to throw the blood over here he's thinking I'm going to throw the blood without the right intent without the right [Music] we have a wise apostle I could think from one I'm in middle thinking about and and the reason is because I learn it from something called pigle which is a big problem I cannot go I can't ruin I can't this case I'm can't think about why because what pigle's pagle that's This is something else. This is changing from one carbon to another. It's different. Now, if you don't if somebody shuckss an animal, very similar to what we're talking about, he to to sprinkle his blood for and he's going he'sing now, but he's thinking about doing with it later. So, says I could go I'm doing now I can ruin it with doing for why I learned from the such a thing is not a problem why I cannot go from to I don't learn from inside you have to stick the word says because it's so different is different. So that's why it's culture. But when you do a like in our case with they're both inside you're just thinking about oh I'm going to do this later on for another maybe I'll say that's also because they're both in the md and if it just says the one says that it's but when he thinks about maybe because one is inside one is I have a right to that what if I'm thinking in my mind that I'm going to do I'm in middle I'm thinking this case let me just show it to you so no there's no confusion here in middle is thinking that he's going to do says it's by listen to this thinking about this if a person is shing. A person is shing an animal right now and he says I'm going to sh this in 3 days from now. Does it ruin anything? >> No. Cuz he's shing right now. I can't ruin I can't make up something that's not existing. I'ming now. How can I think I'm going to in three days now? So by it now thinking I'm going to do tomorrow it's already so in our case our it's talking about a person and thinks that he's think that it's a whatever it is he ruins it. So then take our case this case on the screen when she and he's thinking about and didn't apostle again our is worse off than like like the says why because when I'ming I'm going to do it's because it's but when I for another carbon it's possible so certainly if I think about for another carbon it should also be puzzle mas can how there's no there's no connection is what do you bring me from there? So all the does right now is instead of bringing the same thing again but instead of talking about which is we're going to do which is not and then you don't have that answer if a guy as he's saying I am going to but he happens to be in the basement when he's so he's talking and therefore Yet at the same time if he thought about outside it would be not but that's the same said before. So certainly the case of our the first mission where a person chefs in order to to to He's right now he's going to do his without our case. Certainly it should be possible. Why? Because if I in the first mission hour for I think that it's a pos it's not good. So certainly if I with good it's it certainly shouldn't be good. What's the connection is you can't bring a from we spoke about yeah these two things let me show you on the chart everything's good here the one on the left I'm thinking that I'm going to eat it outside that's in every single carbon in the world you have a problem but our mission says there's only two carbon you could really mess it up completely and that's a pes comes with his big says I'm not checking for it's why is it cuz there's no involved in the shin and it's a what's the classic case of when the coin sticks instead of ru it should be for shim is going to be for so that makes it possible. So take the case the classic case of our Mishna where he says it's not going to be it's going to be it's not going to be it's going to be what happens it's so certainly if you think about not for that type of carbon you went from your thought in this case right over here as you'reing you're thinking got the the instead of going to be it's going to be something else. So certainly it should ruin it. That's I'm not even going to repeat it again. I'm just going to say and what did bring as a riot to he says that if you do this case right over here on the screen you go from and you think to yourself during it's oh so this is a little tricky. I mean the wording it just doesn't tell us anything doesn't give a lot of information but we all remember this you remember where we brought three to say that there's a mitzvah to do it and if you and and there's another posit that says it's you have to do it fine that's so now says very simple get rid of the why do I need a just tell me and I learn from those two. You see what the Gar says here? Don't give me one of those three from the now. What what's the what am I going to learn here? says Rashi is but if you have the wrong intent it's it's it ruins it like so certainly why do I need a pos if if if ruins it certainly ruin it by now there's one thing that ruins it if you think about an old man who can't chew remember the case of old man who can't chew carbon only during not during you can say oh is more more so that I'm going to say doesn't ruin it by old man yet you need so in other words I can learn fine so then why did the give you another ping by you cannot think about the obvious question is maybe the said you do think where where's the no I I hear the comes to tell but that it's good or not good who told you that it's not good maybe it is good you learn from a the idea of thinking thoughts while you're doing about but it doesn't say anywhere in the that's no good says no don't say any at Don't say that's the from what is going to say must be done in the northern part of the mdash even the kipper and and everything that we learned in hyas you need to do you need to do but you don't need to get rid of that. But right now we're talking about says and we know the famous song the whole thing that you have to have that if you don't do the it's possible. So therefore in you can learn you don't need the positive and you can't answer all these things because we're talking about now we're not talking about a person it's not the it's the same thing that we had until now this case but just different here we go at the And Rabbi said, "I agreed to you because what does it say in the Mishna?" Not just the two of you mess up the toss them but there's a third one called and it's the logic is because it comes to forgive and be for sin and so does so too the should be It's like beautiful. There's a red line. It's called on the every single carbon in the world. You you spray the blood below the red line. There's only one and a half that you do above the the you do above the red line and a bird the the bird goes above the red line. So he says what kind of why are you comparing asham to asham has a special it's a special animal you have to you have to throw the blood above the red line so don't compare your asham yeah it comes for a sin but the different sins what do you say the sins are for what what's asham you do mazed can teach you that The blood goes like all other carbon is below the red line yet is still without the right intense. So too goes below the red line but has one day actually six hours of the whole year from after until night time. So it has more he says will prove it that what it doesn't have a set time and what I'm going around the circle because is above the red line is below the red line but as you go around the circle so gives up and he says okay let me go let me go a different direction he who hem share that that you need intent. It also says the same word. There's a lot of extra words here. We're going to see in a second repeating these exact words over you know what has. So the three of them have who puzzle this teaches us you have to have the right intent. those three says. So now we're just repeating the words. What's his point? We had these. I'll remind you again here. It says who? So it says who? But where does it say after you bring the stuff? When you bring the pass, pass the pass. It's all the way at the end. Bringing the stuff up. It's already too late by then. putting the the the meat on top the steaks on top of the and if you don't do it it's still in other words it's already past the essential four of so now he he comes in here and he brings a massive bombshell and we're going to be using this a lot but it says there's a there's a heish whatever has has just like a you have to have the right intent and if you don't you could toss the animal out. So to now we're just going back to that top of the page where we said top of I'm going in a circle then what I want to learn from from I said no is very different the blood is above the red line. So he said, "Yeah, but Pes is not above the red line. Above Pes is something special. Six hours." Oh doesn't. He go around in a big circle. Let's see what he did here. Here. Remember in the beginning of Sh I showed you the behind the scenes here. I want to learn from Kos. But the problem is the blood is above the red line. So get kicks out of there. Oh, but Pesak macaroons, the matzah, the whole thing. Oh, so now I can learn asham from I guess pessa. But kick it out of there. But now we learn from both of them together that they both they're eaten. You get to eat them, says Rashi. You get to eat them. And without you don't have to write in 10. It's possible. So too says no, but the two of them have a chorus. Now let's see it inside. Learn from the two of them. You're right. This one has a plus. This one has a plus. But the two of them together have one thing in common. What do they have in common? That they're eaten. So is an part of it. And without [Music] did I skip anything because the bottom line comes from you don't do it, you get cars. What's the difference about is something special? the blood goes above the red line that sometimes the blood goes we're not talking about the inner the one time a year we're talking about regular she says so but could have answered so now we're going to see a number of times We don't have to but there's a possible. So if you bring the blood into the it ruins the toss the so why is that not a pure you can't learn from because if you bring the blood of ash into the doesn't do anything if you bring the it does say it's not true even if you bring into the it ruins it also. So that's not a big milo for. So why isn't the answer comes to be for says I'm bringing you? No, I'm we're talking about a different that doesn't have if you know testimony you don't and you don't testify, you have to bring and over there there's no cars. Oh, you got to go like this. Look at this. You have to do one here, one here, one here, and one here. The other carabonas you could just do right on this corner, and you do right over here. It's not four corners. It's four walls, but not four corners. [Music] You have to use your finger and apply the blood. Now Karen, now we're going up here. There's a little ramp over here. It's very scary. It's not very wide, but it's enough for a a person to stand on. Right over here over here. And he stands over here. And he applies the blood to these corners. See the corners? Oh, now you can see them. >> One, two, three, four. The the horns. The car is not corner horns. Also, when you apply the blood, you go shmear it down the the wall like you go like this all the way down. Last time, he only said one thing that the blood goes above the red line. He could have used the other. You're right. There's other things that has that we don't have. What did say that the blood of you can't learn from? Because blood goes above the red line. He should he should learn from the blood of also goes above. You're right. It doesn't go above. But he should learn from. It goes above. Once you're learning something, you're learning ashum from that you need to have the right intent. Learn also the blood goes above. She can't say that because you learn from when a person brings a gift. The entire animal goes on top of them is Yet the blood goes below the red line. So that's not as you don't you could eat from it. Certainly the blood should go below the red line. So he says but doesn't come to forgive prove from the bird the bird that is and where do you put the the blood of the bird below the red line. Only the bird goes above the red line. When it comes to the birds in the mdash, the coin grabs it a certain way. You can see in this picture there's a he's grabbing the the the wings between his his two fingers. He grabs the wings and with his thumb with his thumb he has a nail and he breaks the back of the neck. Now if you were to do that outside that bird will become a that's the only way to do it. But that's not that's not that's something else. So don't don't bring a riot from a bird will prove it that it is I think he might have done one but at the end of the day the says and a bird there's no if you get it for free you buy it for a dollar it's okay but asham you have to pay a minimum price you can't learn asham from them [Music] I want to learn that. You don't learn from learn from them. You have to pay at least two for it. Only the he bring the blood above. There's a special typical right after everything we come up with. So now the says let's do something interesting. You have this that's says no only it does. So let's use that and say so I'm asking why do you say that if you don't have the right intent you have it's possible you should learn from here no only is possible but is caution at the end of the day everybody agrees that there's two that if you have you toss it one of them is that we're talking But also the PES. So you toss. So toss also the soar says but wait a minute. But you just with the same logic you'll say that you you you also left out the a bird. Don't bring any right from a bird. A bird is not is not a above and below the red line. There's two different places. right the the types of bonus you put below the red above only the of the goes above the red line so where's this we're talking about it goes above the red line it's not above the red line it's on the horns it's different I can't learn from it it's on the horn itself [Music] merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today mdysonsor.com or sponsor at mdyop.com.