CHAZARAH - Menachos Daf 69 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] >> Old I go to walk around boys I knew this must be me live from Miami 2468101214 lines from the bottom. boy Romeo but Homer Stay lucky him the boys I don't forget we had in the Mishnah that this the Omer the Omer comes on the second day of Pesach and that allows clients role to eat the new wheat the new barley the new commission dog. Then we have 49 days later on shavuot we bring the two breads and that allows the Kohanim to bring minchas from the new crop. So there are two things going on here this the Omer and this is shalayim. In order to eat the new crop in order to bring a mincha from the new crop you have to wait all the way to shavuot after this Omer after this shalayim. Shalayim mamushi what if the shalayim was brought out of order? So do you have to wait until the following year in other words if the shalayim came first and there was no Omer do you have to wait until next year when they bring the Omer? So says the Gemara we have a few charts to explain the Sugya very very simple. I can tell me she's going to be no Omer and shalayim. What happened was that let's say you planted it I'm going to call it Lag B'Omer cuz that's a date that we could all understand. It's not it's after Pesach but before shavuot. This crop was planted after Pesach on Lag B'Omer. >> [clears throat] >> And therefore what? We don't have the Omer that allows this new crop but we do have the shalayim. It was there for shavuot time just in time for shavuot. So the next year came and now you have you had shavuot that passed by so shavuot came first the second day of Pesach came second so it was out of order. My what's is it only when you go in order first Pesach then shavuot or even shavuot and then Pesach is okay? Or perhaps if it's out of order it's also okay. Here you have he planted on Lag B'Omer Zora Lag B'Omer so the first time around the first heter that he had was on shavuot that's why I put a number one by shalayim above shavuot. Afterwards number two is next year to have some pay Zion. But it's out of order you have the shalayim and then the Omer instead of Omer and then shalayim. Is that okay? Omar tell shma let me prove it to you. The Omer minchas bikurim listen to boys I it's this week's parsha. Parsha Vayikra minchas bikurim. The minchas Omer is midaber the Torah is talking about the Omer. May home bar minas how do you know? The mincha the Omer comes from barley at the Omer minas or you know or you know how do you know that the Omer comes from barley maybe comes from wheat. The Omer Omer minas minas Omer Omer it says by minas that it was barley here's the possuk. Okay. So we're talking about barley minas. So therefore and it says Omer over there in this possuk. Yeah I should have underlined the word Omer you see minas Omer Omer. It says Omer how many times do I have Omer so really I should have done Omer in red I don't know oh. Mark are you able to take the two words minas Omer and make them red and the top minas make it right blue that'll be better. >> [snorts] >> Shma okay so that's really as Now we're still trying to bring proof here we're not there yet. I'll when I when we get there oh next word also Omer. Red. We know by individual people they bring their they can bring a minchas chaitah or even a saitah she brings from barley. The tzibbur chaitah minas the public also now here's the raya cuz when in the world does the public bring barley? If you tell me that the Omer comes from wheat the Omer comes from wheat we don't find that the public brings shkoyach here it is. The only thing is I'll be mayor to you now if you notice it's two shades of red. The red that you did and the red that I do mine is a little darker but okay I used to use that red so it's good we're going to move on. Here comes the proof the boys I here it is. Dover acher Dover acher four lines from the bottom. We have a six line Sugya pay attention here and then everything is like a god that flows. Dover acher im Omer Omer comes from wheat. If you tell me I want to prove to you I want to prove to you that the Omer comes from wheat if you tell me that the Omer comes from wheat and shalayim bikurim we know that the two breads that you bring on shavuot are called bikurim bikurim means the first it's the first of the crop. So says Rabbi Akiva and shalayim bikurim. If the first if the Omer says Rabbi Akiva is made out of wheat so you already used wheat that year so by the time shavuot comes around and you bring the two breads it's not the first time you're using wheat you already used the wheat on the second day of Pesach. You hear? But we're not done yet. The mesa also let me just show you here we go no this is good let me just show this. If you see on on it's rudimentary I just use something that Yossi set up but it's a little schwach. If the Omer was brought on Zion Nisan meaning the the second day of Pesach and then the shalayim was brought on shavuot we have a problem. The mesa the shalayim shalayim however says Rabbi Akiva but wait a minute the Gemara says Rabbi Akiva not the Rabbi Akiva. If it's true in fact that you can go out of order you could first bring in other words if if this crop saw shavuot first and then Pesach second it's good so then why does Rabbi Akiva say how what's his proof what's his proof that the Omer must be out of barley and not from wheat I have a way to use wheat and then wheat and both of them are considered the first produce of the year how? The shalachas law I can find it the macro Omer issues with the shalayim. Let me just say about them. The first time we use barley the entire year is for the Omer. So that's the bikurim first time. First time we use wheat is on shavuot for the two breads that's if the one is barley one is wheat says Rabbi Akiva but if both of them are wheat it's a problem then you never used it's not bikurim on shavuot cuz you already used wheat 49 days earlier on the second day of Pesach by the Omer you used barley. You used >> [clears throat] >> used oh so if you can use the Omer you can use wheat for the Omer so you used wheat then and then shavuot comes and you use wheat again so it's not bikurim it's not the first time you used wheat this this season. Yeah? So look what it says over here Omer to Zion Nisan if you if you're allowed to use wheat for the Omer then you're not using bikurim it's not the first time you're using wheat on shavuot says the Gemara it is the first time why? Cuz according to you let's say somebody planted I'm just saying this about that so somebody planted wheat on Lag B'Omer which means he just missed Pesach just missed the second day of Pesach. So the first time the first first time he's going to use this wheat is on shavuot that's number one and coming year round he'll use it for the Omer. That's if you can do it out of order. If you do it out of order then it's fine then it's the first time that that this produce was ever used. Says the Gemara the no sorry now let's see inside the mesa the shalayim shalayim if it's true that you're tell what you're telling me that you could use you don't need to do Omer and then shalayim you can do shalayim and then Omer so now I have a situation where I have become on with the same produce and it up if you notice I just did just to make it easier the number one is purple and the number two is purple in other words we're referring to the purple what what he planted on like by him it means to the style of I find a case the market of mahana first he he brings the mayor >> [clears throat] >> the stuff that was that that took root before us and after the mayor of last year is also dashed or still have the stalker comes from the two breads that were that took root before the mayor of this year we're talking about the following year so it took root before the mayor of this year or after it comes let's see if I did another one oh so you have the mayor one and two in red says the tomorrow nice try but that doesn't work miss become the pair of you think I'm talking about this batch the become of one batch the miss become I say that it needs to be become the miss become the first time the miss become ever had this type of food this eater and now this eater but I call him is become a pair of the whole shot up but the miss become already had wheat this year so it does the miss become doesn't care what batch it comes from if it was a batch that went through the mayor and the style of style of him and the the bottom line is the miss become already had wheat so it's not considered give us a rise that's not considered become all right brand new sugar now we're going through easier stuff now boy another question that become a mass style of him when it comes to the two breads and us the question here is we said that the two breads of us allow different produce to be brought to the miss become to the base of English at what point is your produce on your tree or on the ground where is it holding that the two breads are mattered obviously if you didn't plant it yet then the two breads you brought us are not going to allow you to eat from that crop it's food that already came to a certain growth what growth is it says the tomorrow and not so shy or or you cannot to shy or so rash explains other places that cannot so means that the the flower there's a little flower that grows and you can actually there's a mango tree here I don't know if you can see my son pointed out to me that tree right over there has thousands of small little mangoes on it thousands okay so that's some sort of that's already that's sorry too much okay blooming etc but there's different stages here let me show you what Yoshi did so I know it's just when this when this little flower falls off let's see if he did it I think he did up that's an answer and now comes by the way all this was done by AI by Yoshi A to Z not something we found on YouTube or anything like that so the tomorrow says which one is considered that the fruit is there cannot so or cannot so or is it a small little fruit like on the mango tree by me mom is the small little tiny mangoes in a minute the pair of the pair of you're talking about fruit has to has to rush out shy or cannot so cannot or buyer I don't understand says the tomorrow if just rooting there's a root in the ground the the seed is in the ground you don't see anything just it took root that's considered as if it already grew and the two breads and us they allow you to eat this crap so certainly if it bloomed certainly if it if if it has some sort of cannot so or cannot so has to has to rush out shy or cannot so cannot or buyer says the tomorrow so therefore the question is the all of cannot so the all of I just want to know about not the fruit but about the leaf we have a cash rush or a lie is when a a leaf comes out is it like it took root or not take all says the tomorrow this is a beautiful shy law that that has different parts to the question so let's get there it's like a 15 line sugar here boy rubber band of honor heat and she's running back you take wheat you you plant it in the ground or you may tear a material does the mayor allow you to eat from it and he dummy what's the case either you know if it took root we learned that it's considered that it does it is mattered if it didn't take root we learned it's not as the mayor brings this is not if it took root then the mayor allows you to eat from it if it didn't take root you have to wait until the next year but listen to the question is is developing now it's a give all that you can question three calls says the tomorrow it's not a lot of stuff in the ball lights we call the dinner bizarre you know if you listen to this beautiful shy law you take you take wheat you take a whole stalk of wheat and you put it right into the ground as the tomorrow what just happened do you cancel the wheat you the wheat or remains wheat is it considered you put the wheat in in in a freezer into a box or you decide no I want to use this wheat as seed and therefore I'm canceling completely what do you see in a beautiful the is we know anything that's car car is different for for for ground you can't swear on a car car there's no charging extra on car car which we're going to go into what else is there at least at least three different things so let's see again you took the whole wheat as is and you put it into the ground the says the tomorrow the and then you planted it you cut it and you planted it quite a lot of right before the second day of also and then come the second day of become a boy and could you make them in a year can you eat so question number one is can you eat let me put this back can you eat the wheat you decided you know you're hungry so you dig it up now did it have a mayor that that that was mattered or no mayor is not good on on grain on seeds it's only good on food did it lose the sham food by putting into the ground is it as if you put it into some sort of vessel and then comes the mayor as mattered like I put it into the refrigerator I put it into the closet so put it in the ground so it's not a problem I didn't do the or perhaps once you put it into the ground you forgot about it it's gone it's finished and therefore the mayor is not mattered yes another question is we know that it's not permitted not permitted to charge more than a sixth and as a buyer you can't trick the guy to sell you something for less than a sixth if it's a sixth then you have to get back to you have to redo it if it's more than a sixth it's all the way if it's less than a sixth then it's okay there's three stages less more and exactly so there's no on car car on real estate the explains if the guy that's planting the farmer that helps you out he says oh I I gave you more than a sixth more but the witnesses come along and says he's lying he only gave you five not six that's not enough the show me anything that's to do with with size weight and account anytime if I tell you I sold you five but it was really six or I told you six it was really five it's a it's not it's not a problem with you know if I tell you I I gave you 12 eggs but it's really 11 yeah you're right it's not a sixth but I lied to you so the it's a you have to start all over again so we are also so what if it's car car is it is in a car car you can't lie to somebody says the tomorrow or oh no hello I shall die in the boiler he didn't say number he says I put enough grain enough seed like the usual like everybody puts in such a field. He says, "I have a minimum of a bucket of water." He didn't say a number. He didn't say six. It was really five. He says, "Whatever was necessary." And they don't come and say you didn't put what was necessary. Is it considered that there's a no why? Because it's as if he put it into a vessel. Once he puts the wheat as is into the ground, it becomes like like real estate. Could you There's a person admits to some, let's say he admitted he was they claimed that the he gave him five He he promised five and he only did four. He was mighty than mixed up. And he says, "No, I did four and a half." So, that's mighty than mixed up. Is why my lady is why my lady. Is it considered metallic because he put it in a vessel of there is a shore? Maybe it's considered like real estate and it's why my lady. Take all. Oh. My voice I remember I promised you we're going to have some sugars that you've never heard before in your life. Some of the most interesting stuff. Rabbi Baruch HaShem. If you find wheat in the waste of cattle or barley in the waste, the manure of other animals. So, says Rashi that cows eat wheat and other animals like camels, donkeys, they eat barley. What's the What's the What's the question here? What's the shaila? Okay, so you found some wheat the whole thing the whole thing wheat inside the waste. But what's the What's the question here? Perhaps the question is the gabe, can they receive to my is it considered food? Is it edible? Is it a food item? That if you have wheat that's in the waste of cattle or barley in the waste of regular animals, if the person thought himself that he's going to eat it to my cycle. Typically speaking, when you have a thought that this vessel, you say, "Oh, I'm done with this. I think in my mind that I'm done with this." So, this becomes to my turn. But that's only with a clear something. But we were talking about food. A food item I had a thought that it that I'm going to eat it. No, that's not good. But if you took action, you didn't think. You actually took it and you said tell your wife, "Wow, I found such a macro looking tasting wheat when I beautiful Sabbath here." And he gives it to her. Then it becomes to me. So, that can't be the question here. Maybe perhaps the question is the mincha. Can I bring a mincha from wheat that I found in manure? She told the law, of course he can. How can you bring the famous something that you cannot bring to a king, you can't bring to the ruler, you certainly cannot bring to the Lord Baruch HaShem? Will the ruler be happy with what you gave him? Of course not. Listen to the question. You found a bunch of wheat in manure. And you go and you take that wheat and you plant it and out comes a new crop. Now now it's not disgusting anymore because it's a seed and who knows what happens to regular seeds anyway. A seed came and grew. So, nobody's going to be disgusted by it. You can bring it that perhaps to the There's another question. Did the seed weaken? Was it weakened by the fact that it was digested by an animal? Once you take grain and you put it through an animal system, maybe it's a it's an inferior product that comes out. Once you plant it, it's not disgusting anymore or you do and it got weakened. That should not be And now it's the wheat. Take all. Oh. Here it goes. Now it gets even better. If an elephant swallowed a basket it went completely right through his digestive system and it came out the other side. What's the halacha? What's your question? Perhaps you want to say that it's not to me anymore. I don't know. If I think about this cup that it should it should be a cleat, then it becomes a cleat. But if it's already a cleat and I say, "Oh, I don't want this to be a cleat anymore." It's not good enough to think about it. You have to take action. You have to break. You have to do. So, over here by the elephant, nothing happened to the cleat. It was a cleat that was to my turn and it went through his digestive digestive tract. So, what? You nothing happened to the cleat. But it's we call. The case is the he he swallowed like wicker. And after he swallowed it, they went ahead and they made a basket out of it. We have an equal. Is that considered that it was digested? They have a lay. You know, in the time of the they used to make different vessels from manure or or mud. And those don't have a They're not They're not to my turn. So, too, this is also like perhaps since it came through his digestive system it's considered wicker that is a cleat It's a cleat. It's like considered um a terrible cleat and it's not to my turn. A a vessel that's made out of stone cleat vessel that's made out of waste waste of an animal or from mud They're not to my turn. They don't do anything. It's not going to do anything at all. They have an equal. It's not considered that it was digested. This is even more interesting. A terrible terrible tragedy where the wolves came and devoured two children, two babies. Later on, the wolves relieved themselves. And out came pieces of human flesh. Here's a shaila. It doesn't matter whether you understand the story or not. The question is a halacha question. If human flesh goes through a digestive system of any animal, a wolf, a lion, an elephant, which they don't eat human beings, but let's just say it happened. Does something halachically happen to the meat? In other words, human flesh is We know you go to a you touch of a maze, you're to my in my time of bio. But maybe perhaps this meat that goes through the the digestive system it's something else when it comes out. They have them said yes, it's something else. It became tar. So, so too, when wood branches whatever it is, wicker, goes through an elephant system it should be considered cleat to my turn. Wait a minute. You can make a huge distinction here. Shining boss of the rocket. Human flesh is very soft. So, when it goes through the digestive system, something changes. But wood is different. The leaf should be safer. So, wait a I thought you were going to say that. But it says over there they said that the bones since it's so tough goes through the the animal that is to my turn. So, you see that something that's tough like a branch should remain to my turn. Be considered that the way it came in is the way it went out. Nothing changed in the digestive system. Perhaps there's no right here from bones cuz bones are tougher than branches. Especially these branches that we're talking about. And therefore, maybe branches do change but bones don't. Another unbelievable situation. What happens to wheat that came down in the clouds, in the rain. Now So, you're going to ask like what exactly happened? So, it says Rashi that the the the clouds came and swallowed up a whole ship. Now my What's the question? Am I right? If you want to bring a mincha from it, what's the problem? Hello to my lady. My The question is more not for mincha, but for the two breads that we bring on Shavuos, where the possuk says my the is the light. The two breads the must come from can't come from outside. Something that comes from a cloud is great. It's not the problem the cloud. The problem is where it came from. Or do we have to go and feel the nominee lawyer? Oh. So let's start again. The Torah has to come from Israel, meaning but not from but from a cloud is okay. Or do we have to go and feel the nominee lawyer? Or perhaps it means from and only don't bring me something from a cloud. So the Torah what do you ask me something that doesn't exist? It seems like a far-fetched thing. So the Torah in Yes, it does exist. The Torah in room kisba. Kisba is like a fistful plus the thumb. To remember it, something like this. Um the Torah says it's two you know this the last wide line. Why is it that you have to have the Torah in Pesach? If you find wheat inside a chicken, you the chicken and you find wheat on Pesach. You should be more careful. The lesser if it's not but if it's more than they have an equal it's not considered being digested. Okay, that's the Torah. All right. So we shall stop right over here. Have a wonderful day. >> [music] >> Merit the spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a share today at >> [music] >> sponsor.com or sponsored.mdy.com.