CHAZARAH - Menachos Daf 66 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] >> Good morning BOYS AND GIRLS. WE'RE holding on the last line of the Rebbe and Rebbe Yitzchak. What are we discussing here? The they decided that you start which is coming up the boys say two weeks. Start only on a Sunday. Not on a Monday, not on a Tuesday. Started on a Sunday because it says in the book that you start on the Sabbath. We're trying to prove many proofs. Eight, nine, 10, who knows? That we started the day the right the first day of Passover. Rebbe Yitzchak and it's going to do a recap. The Rebbe is going to do a whole recap of what we learned yesterday. So don't worry about it. We're going to have all these sheets clear. And then we're going to go into a mission which is basically a God of the and then the God of the continues until the end of the whatever. I just want to see if anybody's paying attention. Yeah, so Rebbe Yitzchak and Rebbe this is the second Rebbe we had a Rebbe I'll remind you in a little bit. Here he comes and he says and now we are in the second Rebbe. Because the Rebbe divides the two Rebbes. Rebbe Yitzchak and Rebbe you have to come on to all these Rebbes. This is actually a very simple one. We had it. This Rebbe Yitzchak it says you shall count for yourself Rebbe Yitzchak and Rebbe Yitzchak and Rebbe Yitzchak Rebbe means that there's human intervention here that the Rebbe caused the counting to start. Rebbe Yitzchak and Rebbe Yitzchak This comes to exclude a Sunday. She has the whole world does the same Sunday. There's no special Islam for the Sunday. So, it must be that we start counting right after the first day of Yom Tov. It must be Yom Tov. It has to be right after Yom Tov, not on Sunday. Maybe no. It doesn't say which Sunday. Well, it says it should be on a Sunday. According to you, you mean Sunday. Which Sunday? You about to tell me how do you explain that it's the first the Sunday in Pesach? Where does it say that? It says Shabbat. If it's after Yom Tov, okay, I get it. But after on a Sunday, the day after Shabbat, there's many Shabbat in the year. I'm pointing you out this next word because the going to say why does he have to come out the second second Shabbat? Because we're going to slug up the first one. The going to go through all these uh all these riots and each one either it gets a check or an X. And we go by that. So, four out of all these are good. This is good. This stays. But number Shabbat it says Shabbat by the same we had this yesterday also. Nothing no nothing new here. Very shortly moving. We have the and it says Shabbat by the matter how long regular regular Just like the you have to count these weeks and at the end of a full week of counting boom right afterwards you bring the stay out of him. After regular regular so too you have a regular you have a Yom Tov you counting you do Yom Tov and immediately after Yom Tov there's a there's a Omer. You have to cause because this also is not going to be up. We have a contradiction in the second. One person says you should eat matzah for six days. The other one says you should eat matzah for seven days. The answer is very simple. According to my they actually have a contradiction but we don't have a contradiction. Okay, so matzah should be You know that if you make matzah from the new crop which is the crop, you can't eat it on the first day of Why? Because you didn't bring the omer. The omer is the matzah. The omer allows you to eat from the new crop. So therefore you have matzah that's only edible for six days. The In other words, there's matzah that you could eat exactly six days. According to my There's matzah that you could eat only for three days. There's matzah you could eat only for one day. If you start counting on the Sunday that's towards the end of then it's not six days. Why does the say six days? Because every single year there's matzah that you could eat for exactly six days from the new crop. The matzah from the old crop you can eat for seven days. That's why one person says seven, one person says six. There's no person that says five, four, three, two, one. Why? According to my you should eat There should be a person that eat matzah for days. Next. So this is where we're going to go off a little bit. According to my you're starting always on a Sunday. Now Sunday could be if if if the falls out on a Monday, so now you only start on the following Sunday. So you cannot eat matzah from the new crop until the following Sunday. So in that situation you're eating matzah for two days. That's it. Whatever it is, one day, two days, do the math. Now zero. Zero you got to you got to reap it. You got to cut it off out of the ground. Sefirah, you have to start counting. Start counting the shvu'os. And then, hava, you bring it to the Beis Hamikdash. You do what you bring the omer. So, we're going to talk about these three things, b'kitzur. >> [clears throat] >> We're going to have a day in this world, yochal. Yiktsor vi'avi, maybe skip this middle thing of sefirah, just cut it on the second day of of Pesach. Vi'avi, and bring it to the Beis Hamikdash. B'motza'ei shevi'is yispor. And then you start counting, twice, two days later. Tanya d'vei Eliyahu chermesh bakamah. What are these complicated words for us Americans? Mi'ochal, when you start, chermesh is you take that sickle, bakamah, to the standing barley. From that moment, tochal lispor. You start counting when you do ktsirah. So, maybe if you have this word ktsirah right over here, ktsirah, then you have to do sefirah. So, these two go together. That I know go together. Im ochal chermesh tochal lispor yochal yiktsor vi'yispor. Okay, so these two go together. B'motza'ei shevi'is yavi. And maybe you bring the omer a week later. Tanya d'vei Eliyahu miyom havi'achem in the pasuk says miyom havi'achem tispru. So, the hava and the sefirah, these two go together. Now, the center one and the bottom one go together because it says tispru right in that pasuk. So, these two go together and these two go together. So, b'kitzur, you have all three together. Im miyom havi'achem yochal yiktsor vi'yispor vi'avi bayom. Since the Torah uses a loshon of day, miyom, so maybe all three happen during the day and not at night. And we know that the ktsirah and the sefirah happen at night. You go right away, right motza'ei Yom Tov, the first moment. You need t'mimos, as the Gemara is going to say soon. You need full days. T'mimos. Tanya d'vei Eliyahu shiv'a shabbasos t'mimos tihe'ena. They have to be complete, full, seven weeks. Im motza'ei Yom Tov shevi'is shehi t'mimos, where do you this this kind How do you How do you get the five seven whole weeks? Just so we know a person comes by mitzvah night, everything Jewish starts at night. So you have to start the day at night. The day our day starts by shkiah. You have to start. That's why the boy side the shkiah has to be at night. So you have four weeks. So maybe do all this at night. Do the also bring the omer at night. So we have a contradiction. Night, day, which one is it? So therefore we do a compromise. Okay, it's odd. In order to have the full weeks, you have to you have to start at night immediately. As soon That's why we also we do a sfiras ha'omer immediately. It's like the you know, the first moment we can. You don't wait a few hours into the night. You do it as close as possible to the zman. Sfirah the sfirah of a layla and the omer, the number three thing on this list, comes during the day. Omar Rava Kulu islu pircha. Three people sent me this. That Rava says it's five times in shas. Only Rava. The famous one is that estimate of nine in megillah. It goes through a bunch of shitas and says Rava Put shklog them all up. Oh, besides this one. Over here he says I'm I'm going to take all these and we have a lot of them. Besides barmitzvah mitartei tanoy basroy bem masisa kamisa bem masisa basrisa. Very very simple. I'll show you what he says. Just understand these words. This is This is the first list. This is the brisa kamisa. This is what we had yesterday. See brisa number one on top. a a number one over there. So, you take all these, three of them on the left side pure the two in the bottom are thumbs up. And then the second Bryson, that's what we did today. Two of them pure and the last two like just like the first Bryson, the last two are okay. Over here also the last two are okay. What's the second the the Rabbi Yosi says two things. He says void void that that's okay. Shimon bar Yochai saw is is okay. The one with the matzah seven days six days. So, let's see if we can get through this. Omar Abba Kulu is pure bar mitarte basrai besides the two at the end of the first bemosis kamisa the first Bryson. Bemosis basraiso and in the in the final in the final Bryson the last two pure they don't have a pure. Omar Abba Yochai, let's see. Let's just see Rabbi Yochai bar Yochai. Rabbi Yochai says very very simple we have a contradiction in the Sukkot. One says you should start you should count 50 days and the other says you should count seven weeks seven seven times seven weeks. Now, seven to me means you would mean you start on a Sunday. Like the Tyson. And the other commission whenever you start you start on a Monday you start 50 days. He says must be the two came one means that Yom Tov fell out on a Shabbos that's why you have Shabbos to me you start actually on a Sunday but the other commission means fell out in the middle of the week. So, he says that's not a good says Abba Yochai because we know that the pure is we know that there's a mitzvah to count days and mitzvah to count weeks. That's what the it's not a in the it's not coming to tell you two different things two different No, the Torah is saying count there's It's mitzvah to count weeks. In fact, there's a whole machlokes how you count it. You count days and then weeks, or do you count weeks and then days? Only days. And so we, no, so some people right, some people they count, once you do this, you count 1 2 3 4 5 6 7, which is a week, shem shavua echad, and then you continue. But you don't do every day shehein shavua echad v'shalosh yamim. Only on When you get to the week, you you say shalom aleichem there's a week. But there is a inyan to count a week. We're going to see later, it's a it's a mitzvah from the atzma. Im Rebbi Eliezer Rebbi Yehoshua, so this is like two in one. The Gemara says the same pircha on both. This is And and and remember, this Rebbi Eliezer is the same thing that Rebbi Meir says at the second time. There's two Rebbi Meirs. Rebbi Eliezer says it says this balak that the Beis Din should do. Beis Din should do a sfira. But who told you? Very nice, Beis Din does it. But don't forget there's two yamim tovim on Pesach. It's a sandwich. There's a yom tov in the beginning, yom tov in the end. Where in the pasuk does it say that that you start on the second day of Pesach? Maybe it's the day after Pesach is over, it's also yom tov. You tell me Shabbos, Shabbos means yom tov. Very good, but there's two yamim tovim. >> [clears throat] >> And then you have It's a pircha. That's the pircha. Here you see pircha, and the zayin moves from aleph. I don't know if you noticed that it goes from aleph to zayin. Great. And the same pircha also on Rebbi Yehoshua, who says that just like Rosh Chodesh, you could tell the day before there's a molad and then right the next day is a So over here also, you could tell there's a yom tov, first day of yom tov, and then immediately afterwards, just like a Rosh Chodesh, you start the next day. Yom tov, you start the next day. But there's You could also tell on the seventh day of Pesach. Here's a yom tov, and you start the next day. Same pircha. So pircha. Same pircha though. the percha. Okay. Do me a favor. Let me just read the words. Rebbi Shimon Rebbi Yehuda ben Masairo less little percha. So, Rebbi Yehuda ben Masairo another one. Oh. That we start we start counting right after Shabbat. In other words, there's a when it comes to Yom Tov, we do a whole a whole week of of Sefirah, and then you have a Shavuot. So, two over here you have a count that comes right after a regal, right after Yom Tov. That we don't have a percha for. What's Rebbi Shimon? Did I skip Rebbi Shimon? Here's Rebbi Shimon. Something similar we said yesterday. What's the exact camina? I don't know exactly. What was it? That there's a Yom Tov there's a Yom Tov and right afterwards we do our thing. Have I mean a do my come from the bottom of my heart? Remember this one is partial. Yesterday, at the end of yesterday, comes out he says the big title comes to my toys. And let's say you start where it says four. 1 2 3 4. That's like that's like that's Sunday comes out on the fourth day of Pesach. So, now you have to start counting Sefirah there. Comes out the Shavuot is 54 days after the little seder. It's a problem. This is why is that a problem? Have I mean a do my come from the bottom of my heart? I counted exactly 50 days. 50 days from when I start counting. Who told you it has to be 50 days after the little seder? I did what the Torah told me to do. I counted. I start counting from Sunday. If Sunday happens to be four days after little seder, so great. It's 54 days. Sometimes it's 55 days. E me the view of Sarah. Now, this is the view of Sarah, the second one. Now, the view of Sarah, this view of Huda, but we say the second view of Sarah, we added it, right? Right? So, that's why it's easy. Love that the best of us have to do it. It's the better better say that, but it doesn't say what Yom Tov. There's two Yom Tovim that you start counting after best of us decides it's Yom Tov. But best of us decides the first day is Yom Tov, so then the last day is Yom Tov. So, what's the pure hope? Either of Sarah might be Yom Tov you're saying it's a freebie. Do we have the coin? Resonance cause of pure hope. What do we have to say? Oh. Right. Says the first is that use the same on a Sunday, but there's 52 Sundays in the year. Which one told you what what Sunday exactly? So, what does he say? Oh. So, that that that does have a pure hope. Why? Maybe so no, right, cuz you said you said it must be Pesach not a Sunday, but who told you which Pesach? The first day of Pesach or the last day of Pesach? But [clears throat] I know the common void, and that's why he comes on to second shot. And that that stays. Goof [clears throat] on my bio. What else stays also the the matzo? The positive says six days matzo, seven days matzo, six days is with the the new crop. Seven [clears throat] days old crop. Goof on my bio mix with the many young men mix with the many young women. It's a individual independent mix with the count the days. It's independent mix with the count the night. We want to wash the money young men and wash the money young women. They count the days and weeks like we do. I mean my money young men and my money young women. We count days, weeks, days, which is like a tsara. I may money counted only the days, you didn't count the weeks. Omar Zacher in the mid dash killer. All right. >> [snorts] >> They took this. And they put it I'm just doing fast little pieces. This actually has an addition. They they they reap the the the barley they put it into boxes. Here, beautiful. Look at this. Beau- Okay. And they they they would put it in front of the fire as so, like this. Look how beautiful this clea is. Mom the mom says made out of copper. Has tiny holes on the bottom. The positive says, look at the positive. You think you know the positive. All of call the boy age. The midst of the to roast it. You got to beat it down, but not like with a real hard stick, with something soft, maybe something like this. That says like this, something from a cabbage, not mom like that. You don't want to smoosh it. You put it into this copper thing. And I will avoid a manuka and had holes in it you are sure that the cooler that the fire the heat should go through it. Then you put it this is this one right over here. No, not this one. Um Oh. I don't know. Oh, this one. Oh, yeah, this one. It's a wrong wrong header, okay. Then the the wind comes and blows it away. This is not a high end show races. This is interesting because it's different than what we thought. You put in a special grinder that only that the larger pieces come out. Put them with the shaft and the so the the the soil is actually larger pieces. The first large pieces that come out. >> And what do you do with the rest? You have three saw over there. So, what do you do? You give it you you you pay the you redeem it and let other people eat it. You have to make take challah off it, but you don't have to give ma'aser. So, to understand this very simple thing we learned this many many times something called meruach. Meruach is the final step of when after you reap the flower the the you have you have all the kernel. You smooth it out. Meruach If you do meruach now you have a ma'aser. You don't do this you're not have a ma'aser. If this meruach happens in the Beit Hamikdash for the Beit Hamikdash you part of a ma'aser. Beit Hamikdash doesn't give a ma'aser. So, what happened here? You have a certain amount you have a very large amount that you bring to the Beit Hamikdash. And all of this fine amount of that a small amount goes to the omer. Who did the meruach? The Beit Hamikdash. So, you have a machlokes here. But the meruach wasn't really done for 80% of it. 80% was done for for no reason. It's not a Beit Hamikdash meruach maybe. So, that's where Rabbi Akiva says Rabbi Akiva have a challah of a ma'aser. Says Rabbi Akiva that it's not true. You are have a ma'aser. It's not it's not considered the Beit Hamikdash the Gemara is going to explain. Turn around. Avir zeh avir. The first kernels that's avir. You take it like a marshmallow. You manage you grab onto the wheat to the to the to the shaft. What is it called? The the stalk. You hold on and you put like this like we do marshmallows. No no no that's it's not you don't hold onto the stalk. You put it in the cleat. It looks like over color like something shiny. Basically we're referring to this pot right over here. Okay, so that one should show me what the today she had stay or she let us be cool light. >> Garris. It should be it should be roasted and then and ground. Any damn of Garris call it. Because if you look at the passage it says the word beige in middle. So do you do you That that's what Sham she was saying before. When when do you when do you put it in the in the fire? You put in the fire beforehand or after it's flour? What which one is it? Is it before the the grinding after? beforehand. Caramel like you saw yesterday so because of this we're going to go into sometimes you take a word it's called a nutria key and you take a word and it's actually it's a it's a funny word but it's really like a Russia table sort of it's like a a what? Is it an acronym? Okay. Nutria key and acronym. It stands for two words. Ra Hummel. It's soft and it's like your floury. We have soliso we have another word that's interesting him. Have you ever heard of the word soliso which means like the husk? So what does it mean? Here. It's a funny not this word. Where's the soliso word? Here. Soliso. I also did one back in the day. Okay, let's see which one is better mine or Yoshis. Interesting. This time when I do it it's Wow. Sometimes partial things are it's not meant to read it's just meant to confuse you a little bit and you understand. This is this word means a bunch of stuff. pain la um with your halo ball we also will follow you gave us bread and we ate the novel higher and was great volume air this also the possible Michelle it's a muscle Sahara is like a muscle to to a woman who's on the office so it says nice of anything she tells the man let's get up on the bed and it's my will be happy with a shot to be all of them will sin with love so that the word miss out so contains all those words I think he did it over here very cool background and stuff volume air maybe each letter should have been read or something okay volume air cannot be known in the loss of by the you know we had that bird by you can you you laid a egg and it did did 60 Villages drowned so it says nice I love in the sky what's the loss of nice I love in the sky it it carried this egg and went up to a place that's safe but it's hot and put the egg there volume air cure at a different famous possible by Bill the donkey says to Bill cure at a different what is the word you're at mean where do you see this word so means you raise so you feared me the Malik Ross so she saw the Malik not so and she she moved to the side and this is like I don't know I guess it's deliberate from our new guy the Z is like something like close to one of those balls that were here last night we have a key to my shoes let's just do the small over here very easy oh no I missed something the baby turn off caramel the same work the same this is how it all started but it's different he learns caramel is caramel not the rack of all caramel that is completely ripened very good but I have a color of my shoes says that the the left over you have a nice over of kind of all He says when heqdesh does the final smoothing, how do you say meruach in English? Smoothing out, thank you. That doesn't allow you to to be patur from ma'aser. Why? What do you do with the leftover from the from the omer? Nifda, you redeem it. And then it's for everybody. Patur from ma'aser. Reb Akiva bachiyuv bachalah ma'aser. That's our mishnah. Same thing. Reb Akiva says you are right. Amar lo, they ask him a question. When you redeem any kind of flour, any kind of grain from the Beit Hamikdash, bachiyuv bachalah patur from ma'aser. But if Reb Akiva holds that the meruach doesn't help, mai kamai lei? What do they help by bringing a raya from when you go to the gizbar? He's going to argue on that also. It's the same exact case. >> [clears throat] >> Bring me a raya. When when when the Beit Hamikdash has leftover from the omer, bachiyuv bachalah. Oh, I'm going to ask you when the Beit Hamikdash has leftover stam azoi, you you patur from bachalah. No, he's going to hold in that case you are bachiyuv bachalah. It's the same exact case. >> [sighs] >> Says the Gemara, mai kamai lei? He he Yeah, I thought I said it. Mai kamai lei? He It's the same exact case. But look at this. Go ahead. This is kind of spoken about before. When you have the three, what was it? Sa'ah? I don't remember the amount. Let's say it's three sa'ah. Is that what the mishnah says? You bring three sa'ah. The three sa'ah, the you we know to begin with, let's say it's 10% that we're going to take from that. So, that wasn't given to the Beit Hamikdash. The the the the the the 90% that's that's leftover wasn't given to the Beit Hamikdash. Later on we're going to find out retroactively that this 90% wasn't for the omer. So, we made it that it never the base hamikdash. The base hamikdash never did a meruach on it. Therefore, it should be chayav. In other words, even Rebbe Akiva admits that meruach of hekdesh is patur. The only reason why over here the meruach doesn't work is because it was never given to base hamikdash. But, had it been given to base hamikdash, and the base hamikdash did the smoothing out, you would be patur for ma'aser. And R' Akiva in fact you're right. Talmud Yerushalmi brings Rebbe Akiva. Rebbe Akiva had this in in tradition. The reason why Rebbe Akiva says over here that you're patur for ma'aser not because the smoothing was done by the base hamikdash, because it was never given to the base hamikdash in the first place. The 10% was given, not the 90%. Rabbosai, shiru stoiv eis. Have a wonderful day. >> [music] >> Merit the schus of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a shiur today. mdy.sponsor.com or sponsor.mdy.com.