CHAZARAH - Menachos Daf 61 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] >> Good morning everybody. We are holding a year and a half like 12 lines from the bottom of Yesterday we had the word the Mesa Mesa. And we said according to what we said you remember what is what we say goes together with black ball. And review the set it comes to say it out. I don't know what you want to maybe the word you know what we say else you had. It's like what we say so you shall bring as an individual. I don't know what you want to say nothing or maybe That when a individual brings a minute perhaps he is able to bring it from barley. Typically speaking he brings it from wheat. Perhaps this word comes to tell us that he could bring it from barley. I don't know what you want to say now. There are those that you do bring barley. But besides the ones in barley just a minute and a double with a new perhaps you can learn it from logic. When the community brings they could bring it from two types. They bring from wheat. I don't know what you want to say on what was I don't know what you want to say they bring the the is also barley. I don't know what you want to say nothing or maybe double with a new maybe you could also bring it from both. I don't know what you want to say nothing only it could only be these. Now therefore I can't think for a second that an individual could bring barley and therefore it goes back what do I do with the what we say so? I'm not going to learn a third thing from it. It's either going to be to teach me that either or they need to do I don't know what you want to say. I mean? Aila. A lo lo a mar aila mincha meva hamisha. Perhaps we have this We had the list of 10. Remember the 10 minachos? So, the first five are minchas nedava. Minchas solas machvas machashes chales and again, five of them. So, perhaps when a person says, "I want to bring a mincha. I want to bring a nedava." He should bring all five. I'm a lo mar meila from these. Rotzo achas maybe, rotzo chamisha maybe. Boys, we have an easier sugia today. It's like nothing difficult. It's just remove them. Shortly remove them. Meila. From these. You don't have to bring all of these. You could bring some of these. One of these. Rotzo achas maybe, rotzo chamisha maybe. You bring one, you could bring all five. Reb Shimon omer es hamencha. If we go back to the pasuk, vehaveisa es hamencha asher yeaseh me aila lashem. Should bring the mincha. So, what do we do with the mincha? Reb Shimon says, "Lerabos shar minachos." Shar minachos? What's shar minachos today? Shar minachos means not not these five, minchas nedava, but shar minachos. Shar minachos is the minchas chota. Person who sins has to bring and he doesn't have money, so he brings flour. The center one is the Well, usually we use her as a sota, but okay. They're using her as a woman, the mincha of a woman, and the mincha of a guy. Lerabos shar minachos, lahagasha. That all these three, they have to take the mincha and touch the corner of the mizbeach. Yoel Shani Mar Reb Shimon aleichem aleichem upon him. Perhaps also the two breads of shavuos and the 12 breads of lechem upon him that are in the shulchan that the Kohanim eat every single shabbos. Tam a lo mar meila. Meila comes to exclude those two, the lechem upon him and the shtei alechem. Umar Reb Shimon lerabos shar minachos lo is the shtei alechem lechem upon him. Why do you these two to exclude and not to include? My money is ammunition. All of them you do the coin takes his hand, takes part of it three fingers worth like this and puts it on the puts it on the fire on the or my son the entire the entire look at them. I said tomorrow so if [clears throat] the deciding factor here is going on the fire not going on the something that goes on the fire you do have got sure. You have to touch them is bad. So that doesn't go on the that way is clearly the spoken about many times. It's the that comes together with in a lot. You put it completely on the back. You have to yet to know according to what you're saying something goes on his back should be a how come there isn't any time they go. They only this you bring to the to but not you don't do on because it's I said tomorrow how can you learn anything from the word but I picked it. All the new guys guys that just started we're getting to a mission is going to be a brand new so just bear with us for a moment. I picked it. We already use this word for the site. No from the word that we could actually learn two things. It could have said it could have. The coin should be lotion normal. The extra hey teaches us to to exclude the coin. Are we from the same word we're the site or my reason is lotion is lotion. How come what is this? Yeah. How come you're saying that these three do need but not? You could you could choose you could say they could leave her. Comes to be my these three. Why is be creative excluding these three? What Who told you what to exclude from the word of be creative? So, for that we have to use a little logic. Shalmaneser woman They come on their own. They don't need a carbon. Minchas is something comes 90% of the time together with Shalmaneser. So, comes as an addition to something else. So, it makes more sense that that doesn't require a gosh. Hello boys and girls at home. Y'all do this again. This is going according to Shimon in the Mishnah that these two the anything has to do with the coin the regular coin the coin Godel his Mincha does not require a gosh. I don't know if you remember we had a whole chart of 10 that the these are included for a gosh. But, according to Shimon you don't do a gosh on these two. Come on everybody get your show. The initial excludes the coin. As the more of a boiler is to not go the initial that all these five these five need a gosh. How could you exclude something from a word that's necessary to tell us that these five need a gosh? Maybe he gets the initial there's the extra hey like we had the Hickory be creative. Maybe he gets the initial there's the extra hey. Omar is the rabbi Shimon Shimon Shimon Shimon Shimon Shimon Shimon Why do you say that the fighter Yeah, Shimon Shimon Shimon Shimon Shimon Shimon Shimon Shimon these three need a gosh. Coin does not need a gosh. Why? Who told you? My bunny So, the rabbi said this is like almost like a a synopsis of everything we learned in one shot. There are three rules says the more according to Shimon. My bunny Shimon Shimon Shimon These three the E Shaw guy They have a mixture. Some of it goes on the bear. So that's why you do hugosha. Who buys the last one? Anything that comes on its own and doesn't come together with a carbon requires a hugosha. The actual Hanem and the third thing is that is left over the for the cut. And therefore my dad is the bottom something fall have one issue. The what? The two breads from the they have no nothing goes on the fire nothing goes on the bear. And also the don't come on their own. They come because they come with the island of London. The reason the the clients because nothing's left over you don't have the the in other words it's all to the it's all on the the whole thing goes on the bear. Next year It says in the the hearing the hearing how does he take from the so you maybe should take like one of those spoons you have in the take a what what is it called one of these a scoop yeah you got like a nice scoop you go like this a scooper scoop you go like they take with the scooper scoop of flour and give all of it. You have a you have a right next to it two things next to each other the hearing side. Over here by the you take with your hand you do a mixture. They're both with their hand. So we'll just continue the mission is continuing with the the theme. Yesterday we discussed the 10 minutes that need a they don't need over here the opposite what requires Nufa is lifting as we're going to see in the Gamorah, up, down, right, left, to all the sides. That's Nufah. Hagasha is touching the the Mizbeach on the corner. There are some So, we had four options. Some of Naches. A Mincha is a carbon that you bring made out of flour. Some require both, Hagasha and Nufah. Some don't require any. Zero. No Hagasha, no Some require just Hagasha, but not Nufah. And some require just Nufah, not Hagasha. That's what we're talking about right now. Just Nufah, not Hagasha. It was Nufah, they do it Hagasha. Look Shemen Tzurah V'Asham. So, that oil that you saw on top of the animal, Shemen Tzurah, V'Asham, I You have to do Nufah. Like you saw, he lifted, he put in the video. You see him doing this Nufah. V'Havikurim, Kidvei Rabbi Eliezer ben Yaakov. As the Gamorah is going to talk, what does Rabbi Eliezer ben Yaakov say? It's also Rabbi Yehudah says the same thing. V'Eimurei Shlomei Yaakov, B'Chotzei Shlomei Yaakov. So, the Eimurim are the the the uh skirt steak and the kidneys, etc. Echad Anashim V'Echad Nashim. Women also have to do Nufah. Yisrael V'Lo B'Acher. Now, all of a sudden the Mishnah switches. Says, "Well, women have to do it, but not a Cherem. Yisrael, not a Cherem." So, the Gamorah is going to explain what that means. Shtei Aleichem V'Shtei Kivsei Atzaros. The two breads on Shavuos and the two sheep of Shavuos, just as so, you have to do Nufah. Seems like from Rashi, you have to take the two sheep together. The breads are on top, according to Rashi. Keitzad Oisin? How do you do Nufah in Shtei Aleichem? Al Gabei Shtei Kvassim. >> According to the mission, the two breads go on top of the sheep. You put your two hands underneath. You go So, according to Rashi not here, it's to all sides. That's why with the lulav we go to all sides. You go up and down. So, then I shall who not I shall who not. Tenufah Tenufah, you hear this? The tenufah was in the east. So, I want to ask you a question. It was in the east. What's the east? Let me just show you what the east is before I ask any questions. There's east and there's west. When you come into the base hamikdash, you're coming in from the east side of the the ezras nashim, we show it the opposite actually, but okay. The heichal is the west. The ezras nashim is on the east. So, it's saying that you could do the tenufah, you should do the tenufah where the red arrow is, not where the green arrow is. It seems like not where the green arrow is. The green arrow is the southwest corner. Is that a problem to our video? The answer is no. The entire sugiyah, when it says bamizrach it means even in the mizrach, certainly on the southwest corner, which is closer to the heichal, closer to Hashem. So, again, ba- bamizrach means it's very important to to realize this. Bamizrach means even in the east. Vehagashah But, touching them is back is always on the mayer, always on the southwest corner. Tenufah is koites with hagashah. There are two There are two korbanos, two menachos that you do both. Does anybody remember which one you do tenufah and hagashah? To both the omer and the sotah. So, the tenufah would come before the hagashah. But, the Brisker Rav says that this It also to if you have a carbon that's only hagasha. Like the whole list that we had yesterday, all these. Versus something that's only tnufa. Tnufa comes before. You say, "Hey, wait a minute, you." And you go to him. Minchas Minchas two nice hagasha with tnufa. Here, and say to They both get hagasha and tnufa. The Minchas Socheim the the breads, the 12 breads and Shabbos upon him on the Shulchan. The Mincha that comes to the hagasha with tnufa. They don't get either. Reb Shimon Shloshah minim t'nunim shalesh mitzvos. There are three things that require three things. However, I'm just going to read it and then I'll show you a chart. It's very simple. Shteim b'chol achas v'achas. The three things you only take the two mitzvos for these three things. U'shteim aim but but each one gets two out of the three. But two different ones out of the three. And neither None of the three get all three. U'shteim aim bet V'eilu ein zivchei zivchei v'shlamei tzibur. Okay, so we have three things in the center. We have the shlamei It's a shlamei of an individual and shlamei tzibur. We know shlamei tzibur means the two the two sheep on Shavuos. And then we have three mitzvos on the top. Smicha on the right side top. Tnufa on him. And tnufa shochat. You do tnufa when the animal's dead. Tnufa when the animal's alive. So now, let's say we take the top center and say to he gets two circles. He gets a blue and a green. So in other words, he gets smicha when it's alive and he gets tnufa when it's alive. Then we go to the right the right on the bottom. Shlamei He gets a blue circle and a red circle. So he gets tnufa when it's dead and smicha when it's alive. And the shlamei tzibur, they get the green and the red, which is tnu'fah when it's dead and tnu'fah when it's alive. Don't don't try to remember it. That may maybe you could, maybe you did. The point is there's three korbanos and there's three mitzvos. And each korban gets two out of the three mitzvos, but something different than the other. And neither of them get I don't know is that the right word to say neither on three? None of them get Didn't sound well. The right way is Didn't sound right. It didn't sound well to say neither. None of them get all three. They all get two. Okay, so it was his way of showing how to do it. Give all of them. They don't have the third thing. Tnu'fah chaim. Zivchei shlamei tzibur, the two korbanos you bring on on shvuos, tunum tnu'fah chaim. If you do tnu'fah, you have to lift it when it's alive u'shchutin. And also when it's dead, ve'einvam smicha. You're not You're not a I'm sorry, not smicha. It's called Yeah, smicha. Great. Torah Orban. It says by the metzora the shlamei olah shalem u'shamen ve'heineif oisam tnu'fah. Melamed she'yodu tnu'fah ke'echad. The what? As we saw in the video, the metzora, the guy after he has tzara'as, he There's a whole process when he comes tahor, he brings an animal and oil and he does tnu'fah. We saw it in the video that the oil was about to fall off and then it comes back on. So you have to lift it together with the oil. Ve'heineif oisam tnu'fah in singular. Oisam plural, the animal and the oil, tnu'fah one lifting. It's a very important nekudah here to to realize. If you don't do tnu'fah, what happens to your korban? Do you have to bring another korban? No. It's a few like like smicha. You don't do smiha. You don't lean on it. It's a It's a good carbon. So, what does it mean over here when I didn't do the in the proper way. You didn't lift them both up together. You did each one individually. Yotzei. You don't have to do any of them to be to to to to that the carbon should be hot. So, what does yotzei mean? Very simple. It means the mitzvah of tnufa. There's a special mitzvah to do tnufa. You should know that if you did each one individually, you're yotzei of the mitzvah of tnufa. How do I know? I saw the the The if it's individual. That's The word is asking over here that perhaps you should do three tnufas. You should do a tnufa like you thought the two of them together, put them down, and then each one individually. Take the the oil, do a tnufa. Take the animal, do a tnufa. Three times. The word tnufa tnufas. It's the word tnufa is extra. Why is the word tnufa is extra? Because it says the heinef. And then it says tnufa. So, the word tnufa you don't have to say tnufa if it already says the heinef. Heinef tnufa. So, the tnufa is extra. What I learned that it's a one time. It's a one time deal. You don't have to do three times. Tnufa, singular. You should do this in front of by mizrach. What does by mizrach mean, Rabbi Isaac? Very good. Even by mizrach. Why? Because if you look at the again, is in my roof. Where's the Where's the inside the So, my roof is much closer to him. Which we in kept on saying the the is my roof. My roof. I going to bring it up here. I'm this. By says the the my roof. It has to be my roof. I'm I mean the hottest. I'm in the positive calls the hottest. What hottest doing in your site? A regular hottest requires a site. Says interesting. I don't even show them argue on him. But, we go with Rashi, make it simpler. This This is a heel of It's not Machiavellian also, but you take the leftover blood and you pour it on these side. That's on a real chavez. Since the milk is for the chavez, it doesn't have blood, but it's called a chavez. So may I put it on the same corner as a regular chavez. Here, if you look over here on this Mizbeach, the red is the base of the Mizbeach. Now, there's no red over here and no red over here. This is the east. This is the west. This is the southwest corner. This is the east. There's no You can't There's nothing to do You can't put it over here. Since we're talking about the Lukasz man, we're talking about the the metzora, it doesn't need these side. So may I love he could You could do the the whole process on the in the Mizrach part also. The two We saw in the video when the the first fruit, you bring a basket of fruit, it's unbelievable or vice if you think about it. The a person he plants a tree, he works hard the whole year, pesticide, um sprinkler system, uh employees from uh what are they called over there? From where? Thailand. A whole thing. And finally, finally, it pops out. The first one, he's all excited, he wants to eat it. No, that that one you're going to give to who? You're going to the cohen. But the cohen couldn't care less if it's the first one, the second one. But the Torah says no. What's important to you might not be important to him, but I want you to be Machiavellian and then what what's kosher I want you you give it to him? So, my time to bless me going to Yad Yad you learn the of there from Makan Koyan? I've got a long Koyan just like by Biko it's a Koyan so too by it's a Koyan. By the it's the owner of by him. Koyan Yad Yad Takas today or may not. If you just read the these words as is, so the Koyan puts his hands underneath the hands of the owner and he does Nufa. As Tice verse, how could that work? We have a problem. Katziza So he says the mailer the shot is that the Koyan puts it underneath underneath means underneath the clay and the owner holds over here. So that's why it's called under. Under means on he's lower. The Koyan is lower than Israel. But they're not touching. The Lema Nami Why are you telling me this goes according to Rebiuda says the same exact thing? By Biko it says means to do Shnufa. Now the the literal translation means to put it down. To put it down on the floor. I thought it was maybe means to put it down. says they should put it down. So what is it means to explain in the Hebrew Shans thing in the the Hebrew article explains that he learns the word like it's a lesson of Shnufa. It's Russian Vey Nacham I should Nacham what's the Vey Nacham like him? It's a lesson of okay fine. They go into that. Omar Rava. I got to give more scotch. What's the scotch is why does the mission say it goes according to guess what says the same exact thing. So you say Rebiuda why do you pick Rebiuda? Two answers Omar Rava. if you look at the possible the longer that's what learns from comes afterwards so we rather use the words that come first and say that goes according to uses the first words he is a great man we know since that we always passing the says the the lucky have is a 102 is a 100 have bases to 102 102 times in that says it says in the mission pointed out in the mission that it's master that the women should not do to Nuka my camera what's going on here it says the women are having Nuka and then it says my camera I would have you to come on carbon 200 Nuka their carbon requires Nuka would Nuka at small but who does it Nuka be strong women should not do Nuka turn around when you need when it says in the Bnei Israel you have to be the child of Israel so you can't be a guy to do Nuka Bnei Israel the end of the voice so what do we do with all the other places that says Bnei Israel so it's not women Bnei Israel came out of not women so each different places have maybe different but there's actually we spoke about it in the past can women tight can they work in a factory and do cuz they're not in the Bnei Israel the Muslim not women whether or not they could or not okay he says many people many people say a woman should not do Nuka we see that a woman does not do smicha. So maybe No, maybe say that women don't belong in the parsha smicha. You say just like smicha, women don't do smicha, so too when it nufa, a woman shouldn't do nufa at all. There shouldn't be nufa at all on her carbon. Like Who does smicha? The owner. That's why a woman doesn't do it. But the nufa, the coin can do. So even though it's owned by a woman, the coin will take care of it. does mean get involved. Okay. Anybody that brings a carbon he's included. Maybe it's referring to the coin not the person bringing it. So why would you have to be there? We know that's referring to the owner. Okay, so So what do we do? So we have a coin, we have a owner, what do we do? Okay, so under but next to So we have a combination of the coin and the Israel that do the nufa. Raboisai, have a wonderful day. >> [music] >> Merit the schutz of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a shear today. Mdy.sponsor.com [music] or [email protected].