CHAZARAH - Menachos Daf 51 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] Good morning. [screaming] [cheering] >> Okay, here we go. We are holding. You know what? We could do a little bit of review. It's not going to hurt us. Five lines from the bottom. We'll do it quickly. It's very simple. The Gmorra says it's not awesome. Everything that has to do with the making and the baking of the that the brings every day. Two times a day. Every single day he brings it two times a day. It all has to be done inside. The kneading of the dough, the the braiding of the dough. Now this is today's sug not not really but one of the big things that it pushes off shabas [snorts] I know that you push off shabas to bake the do it on Friday what's the big deal and there's no there's no there's no uh to be shabas if you do it you do shabas you have no right to be shab the the thing is you cannot do shabas so why Could you bake on chabas? The reason is it has to be a beautiful bread and if you bake it the day before it's going to blow up. It's not it's not the same thing. Doesn't look doesn't taste the same thing. But there's a way in the time of the there's a way to preserve it. You put it in vegetables. In our day it will be, you know, put in the fridge, put in the freezer, whatever it is. There's a way to preserve it. So therefore we have another forget the the beauty of the bread. It says in the you should make it you should bake it. There's no limitation. You do it every day of the year. You should do it even if there's no other way just to do it when you're so this is a we're going to see later but it's good to see it now. Get used to it. We're just going to see it one more time later. We're talking about the says you should do it every single day just like which is the you do it every single day. So too the of the happens every single day another first of all step by step how do you make the you have to put it into a on a on a frying pan. So if you need a what does the do the infuses into the bread once it's it cannot be overnight you can't keep it overnight. So if you did it on Friday, it would be possible already. We have a right to you need a vessel. Here goes. This is the key word for today right over here. It says in the P. Let's grab the P first if I can. Oh, I think this is it. Yeah, it says in the bash, let me just make sure it's the right. Yeah. The question is when you make this when you make this uh what does it have? Does it have an oil or doesn't have oil? You make a ma if I tell you make a we already know from previous that they require oil. How much oil? A typical mka has one log of oil. There are some that have two and some that have three but a typical one is one. So the question is why does the have to say that there's oil in the oil we must say that the reason why this says it's not your typical amount of one you have to add to it. Now how much could you add? How much could it be? Could be either two or three. That's the most we we know. I don't know how much. So, let's figure it out ourselves. Let's learn what? So, we're today we're learning about the So, I need to learn how much oil is in the perhaps you learn it from the means of the the carbon that you do every single day. the carbon or any comes together with the require oil. So it says let's learn from that the amount of oil is three three again doesn't say how much it says it doesn't need to say because it's automatic why is it automatic so is about to ask why is it automatic he wants to ask there's another that doesn't have any oil at all. What are you referring to? >> That's what he's asking. So is going to touch that. But assuming that there is oil, the minimum is a the minimum is a soar says okay. So now we got to we got to but means let's increase the amount. How much? Three. because we're going to learn from the problem is I can learn from another place that has a little lesson three now I have another way to learn it from and over there it also the problem the is going to ask on this is very very strong why would I say it's one we we just finished saying that it can't mean one log because it says she without saying anything it means one log automatically I get to one log if just the fact that it's a needs one log [clears throat] so it says bash and bash means you have to add to the regular >> addition no saying let's go back to one log let's learn from the double one is going to touch that also just want to point it out here so we see the question soar says nearly the does a classic a lot of times the gar does this the gar says See who's who who do we resemble more? We have the we're talking about that's in the middle. Is a similar to or similar to and usually there's a list. The list usually goes it's similar to this and five and it's similar to this and three >> and then the says oh whatever the is this is more five wins over three. The problem is now we have a tie. So what do you do when you have a tie? So nearly, but guess [laughter] what? The litak took out the bays. No, no, no. The lit took out the bays because they weren't happy. They took out the and became attached. I'll even show you what they did here just in case you want to see. Attached. You don't like it. So what the tough stands for? That's every single day. What's every single day is every single day and the is every single day they both push off shabas you bring carbon every day. So the and if if if the people are you bring the carbon you bring the but you don't bring a carbon when you're you don't bring a carbon on and you don't bring a carbon every single day every day. So is very similar to those who are from something that's not from you don't do no but I can learn it a different way. Let's learn again what are we trying to learn from something either from or you can learn from let's learn from why it's very similar what does stand for is an individual uh is an individual whereas themed is brought by the community means it comes on its own with nothing else. All by itself. The the comes all by itself. The the nadava comes all by itself. But a carbon no there's an animal involved over here. You have to bring and so too with [cough] the carbon doesn't have levina but will have levy. Sorry, did I skip? Great. What does he say? He goes back to that puzzle that we brought before. It says over here they should treat it like a You're asking me should I compare the or the answer is like it says okay the bottom line is we got three three [clears throat] or maybe go a different route Let's compare it to the it's two three. Let's see. We have a nice thing that he did here. You bring two is sorry. It's really for later on over here. So it's to look per. Yes. to look pretty sar both the alum and the part two look pisar okay what else that might be oh here ah carbon means every look you put a watch on it all the time I get okay >> time what about time let's see who who was look more similar to to the PM or to the That's what it is. >> Oh, you put in the morning, you put in the evening. That's what it is. Let's see. It's >> There we go. That's what he's doing. Night and day. Night and day. It's so small. It's a Rolex, but it's hard to see. Wow. It actually moves. The the second hand is moving. It's >> crazy. Okay. There's like details that's, you know, takes a couple times to notice. So, we have an option. So, we have an option. We can go we could compare which is on top. That's what we're trying to learn. How much oil does the get? We can compare it to we compare it to to a bull. Which one is very simple what's the take a look how much how much flour? Let's let's go back. How much flower does does the of the have? We all know how much flour does have one is that we divide in half. We spoke about the all the time. It only has one. So let's compare it to the what the and the are the same amount of flower which by the way that's going to be basically that line. Remember this line because this is going to be the final line right before the Mishna and it's going to say so you have to remember this again. We're gonna [clears throat] learn the from the because it's the same amount of flour and therefore we're going to use the same amount of oil. The obvious question you tell me that without the word she how much oil is necessary for every one. So therefore if the adds the word she I don't need the word she because I know I already know automatically every m needs a log. So why it should be more than one I pointed it out over there. So what was your to say that I should compare it to which only has one look but that's automatic the one look. Why would I say that the word comes to tell me that you only need one look the word what? So Abaya comes up with answer number one just very very simple what's going on here says we have a and then he's going to say no it's actually the same T and we could explain it in the same T. So what does say easy way out who's this one that said that it comes to add great the one that answered he holds that it's just not just how much one great so don't ask me from somebody that argues no it goes according to one mand and this tube So let's start slow very slow and very easy typically means to add just explains it beautifully because if it means it needs oil I don't need the word at all why every in the world every has one and this is no different than a regular But says this is no maybe not. Maybe I would think that without the word I wouldn't know it needs any oil at all. Maybe it should be like the sinners which doesn't require any oil and that's why the says no it needs some oil which means automatically one no let's say it comes to say oil but the thing is I don't know how much so let's figure it out ourselves and we try to figure it out ourselves by doing the and and it didn't work out. Why? Because I could go with it's three against three. Three against three is a tie. And therefore, and that's why I went to another what I need like three log of oil. That's how finished. This is the end of the right over here. I'll tell you no, it doesn't go like what's his name? The longest name. Uh >> this goes like let's explain it. Everything very similar to what we said a second ago but with a little twist. He's saying what if it didn't say the word oil is of the opinion that when it says it means you have to add to the typical in other words more than one. Why? If they say just one log that I don't need a word then it's automatic. It's one look. But even if it didn't say, he's what he's trying to say is even if it didn't say the word oil, I can figure it out myself. No, that I need three because of the cause because of But no, that didn't work out very well for me because then I there's another thing I could compare it to. I can compare it to the so over there it's two that's why I need the word now he comes out with a different outcome than before without I was I would try to figure it out myself and that's why I need that what I'm going to learn now from that you need three and they said why learn from learn from that you need two and then he >> [clears throat] >> And that's what I told you to pay attention to. If you have a choice to learn from aid or it makes a lot more sense to learn from a that has the same amount of flour, then the part that have double the flour. So they have different amounts of oil. Says the is this is a this is a tricky thing. said, "Check this out question. If aud has never performed an avoid of kuna in his life and they he comes off the plane let's say he's the god he flies in from America is a he's a he comes into the moment he gets off the plane they say you're the sorry you have to be the bring him to the to the what how many does he have to bring that very first day. No, no. Let's call the morning and the evening one. You say two. >> Two. >> One for >> one for becoming a >> Yeah. And one for >> very good. But that's not the right answer. Anybody else want to say the answer? The real answer is three. Because he's a simple kind also. He never got his of a regular kind. You can't jump. You first first you're a regular and then you're and then you bring the what you said is right. What you said is good. I'm just adding to what you said. >> No. No. There's a special that becomes I'm just throwing this out there. Yeah. You have to you can't you can't you can't Yeah. It goes in goes in order. First you uh you get this degree and then you get the next degree. Very good. So we spoke about yesterday that if a dies in the middle of the day which happens I was happy to see the the art scroll. I guess I got it from the art scroll less less around but im says those words he says the b the second b is 420 years and there was over us this over 300 in those 420 years. So it's very very that the kangal died in middle of the day that he brought his milk in the morning and didn't have a chance to bring in the afternoon. So we learned that if they brought a second in he has to start all over again. He cannot use the leftovers from the first he has to bring a holy and half of it goes into the garbage. We burn it. Now we're going to say what if they couldn't find the right guy. So but you have to bring this Listen to this one. And there's a whole here. It's one because you can't have it. It's one out of the grab a you say you're the Irish. But here's the will also answer what you're saying half is no good. You have to bring a full right now. It's a second. This is simple stuff we everything we just learned the died and they didn't appoint another instead of him. How do you know you bring it from the inheritors? You have to do it from the sons. Maybe you should do it like a regular half. So me yeah you see for you have to bring the entire thing. So it would mean that he would have to bring the entire thing in the morning, the entire thing in the afternoon, both. So we have to it's a little not difficult but just to I'm going to show you on the screen. It's these are the words that we have between not necessarily they argue in the concept but they argue from where do we learn from? He learns in Arab learns that the mitzvah the comes from the is the so what I learn from the word this comes to exclude don't try to we saw in the video and hopefully this that the throw six breads onto the you can't take anything for yourself it's the whole thing is tuck you the entire thing on the says he agrees that It's whole whole that that one thing he holds with in other words the says that thing. So this is a typical where you get lost because the question lasts for like 15 20 lines. I didn't count exactly but but by the time the question is over you don't you don't even know where where you were. So I want to point out the question is over here. Who told you that the the comes to mean that that the the have to bring it when if the is not there that comes from the it comes from something else completely the what [clears throat] something else look at this is the carbon of Aaron and his sons Maybe they could join forces and bring one carbon iron and his sons together as it's extra. These extra words teach us to bring his own every single day and his sons bring it one time when they have. So you see over here you see the idea that needs to bring his own it's in the before these are referring not to Aaron sons necessarily but a a simple kind a regular kind that's not a who told you what it's referring to maybe it means you see how you get lost here just go on and on and on you forget that there's a It says bottom line is you see from here a different lem completely over here you see that for generations every generation you have to bring a carbon but nothing to do that aish has to bring a so you're right there extra from the extra I learned that sons have to bring the ka this is a very very simplified thing but what do you learn from the word says that's what we just said before says that [clears throat] that if you not allow to use the first stuff so maybe here answers your question again so what does you do with this? That's literally the words he used which we just said that you cannot use the maces. The guy he already brought it's convenience already in the he can't use his why I need the word you have to bring the whole thing doesn't learn he doesn't learn from the v he doesn't learn vsud so now we go to the next word we just saw learns I think it's didn't we just say what do we say because they were giving me a hard time yesterday that I might I didn't fix it. >> Oh, that's what says. >> So, it's it's it's uh it's it's reversed. Okay, they're right. It should be for generations. Yeah, it's reversed. Okay. I don't You're not able to do it, right? Just the either have to be reversed. That's it. Exactly. If we already learn out from that has to be whole a holy sin. So what does he learn with the word? So it's beautiful that there's a pir if you look some have my in parenthesis which doesn't really belong but it's explanation. What does mean and what does mean is referring to the in the par that's above? So very very simple. There are two things here. There's to eat from the the the if you take a bite out of it. There's another thing to put it on the two different things. Put all of it on the but if you eat from it you get. So how do I know that I have both and the fact I have to put it on to the both and both the all is entire and if you take a bite out of it you get and the same from the Simple enough. Both uh the mitzvah of putting on his back and the is of eating it go both to the head and ask that if the dies you have to bring it from the community seven things which is super interesting. If a if a guy sends an notim from out of the country, if he sends the money together with the then you bring you bring all the the the side things from his own money. It comes from the community. So if a guy sends a carbon if you sent money so it comes from him it comes from [clears throat] that died he doesn't have if he left money over so you or even even the actual he's a so you could his his [clears throat] stuff is good his wine is his his flower is good if not you bring it from the And it says who this is not that it comes from the you're telling me that you you you bring it from the No, it says it's decided it that what our case that died and they didn't have a chance to get another one instead of him. the the community pays for it. Not a you should know there was two different when we start off the says bring it from the communities they saw that it was taking a lot of money 300 this is where the article says it was 300 over the years it started costing good money 300kim times all these different it's a lot of money you know what your father died it's your fault You pay for the the and once they saw so number one was that the should that's the should but once they saw that the the kids are not paying for it they went back to the original the original to go to the original is the said go back to the which is that the should I guess we'll stop right over Have a wonderful day. [music] >> Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today. mdysponsor.com or sponsor atmop.com.