CHAZARAH - Menachos Daf 50 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] >> Good morning, boys and girls. This is the master of the universe of the small says the holy Amora. Like you will Kevish by boy, Kevish by boy Kev. So Reb Shimon is the one that says that if you don't bring the first in the morning and you're supposed to bring first in the afternoon. But not only the first of the afternoon, you bring it all. You bring the morning first, afternoon first, you bring it all together in one shot. Whereas when it comes to the carbonas, if you don't bring the carbon comment in the morning and it's afternoon time, you don't bring the morning one. Says the Amora that the [clears throat] mission goes on to say that the way you make on it the Mizbeach Hazov, this is the Mizbeach Hazov, right? To remind them, it's beautiful. I don't even know if I showed this in the Hebrew movement. I don't know. The movement I didn't show. >> [music] >> But the Mizbeach Hazov was in the room. That's the one that you put the first on twice a day, in the morning and evening. The meaning the first the very very first time that it became it became a corner. Reb boys and girls, we're holding on to my shame. The mission when discussing the first, Reb Shimon says, oh you know, when they first inaugurated the inauguration of the Mizbeach Hazov happened in the evening with the first. The menorah happened in the evening with all the neros. The Mizbeach happened in the morning when they brought the But who's talking about inauguration? You know my name We forgot to explain there's a few words missing from the mission. Once you get these words, you'll understand why it fits into the mission. If I'm We're see in a second was it on purpose not on purpose, but they didn't bring the carbon tamid in the morning. Like you would have been by him. This is mamesh what boy said. This is mamesh the musagim, the musag of daf yomi. When is it the halacha that if you don't bring the the carbon tamid in the morning, you don't bring it in the evening? When they never started was day number one. Why? Because the pasuk, the very, very famous pasuk, the pasuk of daf yomi. Let's call the pasuk of daf yomi. Especially our sheer. We have a sheer in the morning, sheer in the evening. When could you bring the keves as a keves as a shaini tasivin arbayim? When you have as a keves as a shaini boiker? First First you need to do the morning. You have the morning, you do the evening. I'm not going to say any the Torah about daf yomi that because in daf yomi it doesn't work like that. You don't do the morning, you do the evening. But where did the pasuk say that you can't do the evening unless you have the morning? But that's the first day on the Oh, it does work with daf yomi. On the first day. But from then on, it's not like that. Once the mizbeach is operating, you have been arbayim. So if you didn't do the the one in the morning, you can do the one in the evening. This is only in a situation when the kohen was oines. It was a mistake. I'll show you what I'm saying. If you did it deliberately, like you did it in the morning, like you did it in the evening. If you did it deliberately, then we punish him. We say, "Since you didn't do it in the morning, you can't do it in in the evening." But when it comes to teres, it's different. Like you did it in the morning, you did it in the evening. There's no punishment when it comes to teres. So it's not If it was by mazid, they don't get to bring it again. But if it was by shogeg, yes. But not immediately. How do you know that the of the Mizbeach only happened in the morning? Again, we're trying to find out that where do you see that the Mizbeach happened only in the morning? Rashi says that we're using another possuk. This is not the possuk that we used before. He says this is a possuk that doesn't have the Kavasa Rishon. He says the the possuk doesn't even discuss the Rishon. And then may I say from here that without without the without the I don't know why. For some reason that we're not using the first one. It's it's without the Rishon you don't have a Sheini. It it goes directly to the Sheini. It's a Kavasa Sheini Tasa Ben Arba'im. Sheini Ben Arba'im V'lo Rishon Ben Arba'im. You see that the possuk never mentioned Rishon. If the possuk would have mentioned Rishon, maybe Chinuch could be in the big in the beginning. No. Sheini Ben Arba'im V'lo Rishon Ben Arba'im. But not immediately. The Torah Rabbanan Tasa Ben Arba'im. This is the first possuk. You're right, 100%. I even wrote it in my Gemara. Doesn't help. Here, this possuk. Bad. Shmois. Shmois Chof Tes. Sheini Ben Arba'im V'lo Rishon Ben Arba'im. Okay, very good. So you need Kavasa Sheini Tasa Ben Arba'im. Sheini Ben Arba'im V'lo Rishon Ben Arba'im. You only bring the second one Ben Arba'im, not the first one. The matter of Amorim studies Chof Tes Chof Mizbeach. That's if there's no Chinuch of Mizbeach. Avon Chof Tes Chof Mizbeach even Rishon Ben Arba'im. But if there was if this is already operating, did we learn this before maybe? No. Avon Chof Tes Chof Mizbeach even Rishon Ben Arba'im. But if there was if the if the Mizbeach is operational, then you could do and you didn't and you missed the first one, then you can bring the first one in the afternoon. And that's where you bring the second Pasuk. Let's see. Let's give us a shining Pasuk in Arba'im. Okay, why does the second Pasuk help us? This is without You don't need the first one. Aha, in this Pasuk you don't need the first one. You hear? This Pasuk starts just talks about the second one. It's like give us a shining, so we don't need the first one. The first one is not Magiv. So if you already got to the to the Arba'im, bring you could you could bring the first one. There's no equal if it if the Pasuk would have said the the first one as the Kivas Echad and then there's the second as a shining. So he's First you have to do one, then you get to two. Or rather, we jump straight to two, meaning that if you forgot the first one, you could bring the first one in the afternoon. I thought we did this. Ah, we Yeah, we did do it. It's the same word. Same words. Yeah, yeah, same words. Okay. If it was deliberate, you cannot bring the second the the one that you missed. Like the second one in Arba'im, but when it ties it's different. Now the Gemara goes into why is it different than a carbon? The Adam of the Mizbeach bottle just because one Meshugana a Rasha he does something against the Halacha and he doesn't bring a carbon in the morning. So that's why Klal Yisrael has to suffer and there's not going to be a carbon Tamid that day. Now, there's a Kayan who's a bad guy who didn't bring the carbon. So he is not going to bring the carbon in the afternoon, but others will. But it doesn't say who. Look at the Lashon Hara. Like give it away. What does hain mean? Oh. The same mishmar the entire mishmar is punished. Collective punishment. The whole class gets punished if one kid does something wrong. But not not all Kohanim. You go to the next mishmar and they could bring the carbon that was missed. If you didn't bring the ketores in the morning, bring it in the afternoon. The kivan d'lishkecha ketores is not shocheach. One of the pshetim in Rashi is he brings the Gemara in Yoma. The Gemara in Yoma says an amazing thing. That a Kohen never brought ketores twice in his lifetime. A A Kohen could only bring it once in his entire life. So it's very very not common. He's not going to mess it up. Or and also this is what everybody knows, u'mear asra, and it makes you wealthy. Chaviv alav pashut. So people like it. Ah, money. This is segulah. So they're not going to this And when when people don't do don't they When people there's no concern that people are going to be posheya, there's no there's no there's no reason to make a knas. You could take both portions of ketores and put it on on mizbach hazahav in the afternoon. Sheim kanocham mizbach hazahav. Oh, let me show you this pasuk. Says in the pasuk and everybody knows these psukim. Zos habracha. Yasimu ketores b'fecha. The ketores b'fecha, you know. Borech Hashem cheilam. Right afterwards, the next pasuk, Hashem will give you a bracha. >> [laughter] >> There's a video here, but you guys don't want to see it, right? Forget it. We have too many videos today. M'atai nibtarzu samim shachar? So when when The The Mishna says sheim kanocham mizbach hazahav u'l'tosefes samim sh'bein arbayim. That the inauguration of the mizbach hazahav happened in the afternoon. As the matter of time because of the Shacharit happened in the morning. So now it's actually when the inauguration happened. Did it happen in the morning or the evening? Omar by Mr. Kimondo Omar victorious of an RBI. It seems like it happened in the evening. The Shacharit by boy kid by boy kid bad the Haiti boy is a nurse yet to run out. that Hold on. I need to show you the stupid Sukkot mirror. Very very important to understand the Ooh. How come I don't Okay. No. Oh, here it is. It says like this. Victor 2 a.m. I'm talking about Victor's. My boy give a boy kid in the morning. They ate even as a nurse yet to run out. So when did he From this positive almost seems like that it happened in the morning. 2:00 a.m. My boy give a boy kid by 8:00 a.m. 8:00 a.m. means when you clean out the menorah. So where it says like this. When you clean out the menorah you love the over at local auto. Why why are you cleaning out the menorah in the morning? It must mean that you lit it at night. You love the over at local auto. How to type in a hole. Okay. So once I get that piece. Piece number one is to know that the lighting of the menorah is at night because you clean it out in the morning. Now we go to the next possible possible Shacharit. Possible Shacharit says says always on his hand near his been hard by me after run out. Tyrus told me to finish up. In other words, so like two pieces there. I'm not exactly sure why we need both pieces, but in this positive it says that the Tyrus happened when you light the menorah. And we figured out that we light the menorah in the evening because we clean it out in the morning. So my first possible sort of values are in his hand near his been hard by him. So maybe while at least Aaron is I wasn't sure that it means to light it. I know for sure that it means to light it because you have to clean it out in the morning. You you it out in the morning, that means you lit it at night. And in this it says the should do the at the same time but which means at night. Mamila. Oh. So, that's the inauguration of the happened in the evening, not in the morning. And what about the argues it says the inauguration happened in the morning. says Yeah. Yeah, but what I mean is says I. What is been doing you do this? But But the the even says he loved the goes in the whole thing. What? What it says he loved the luck of not for the fact he goes to this whole When it comes to the of the the the so we will bring all the that happened in the morning, the first comment, so too the happened in the morning. Next. How do you inaugurate the with the bottom? We don't have a picture of the No, not today. Hello. So, the is that. Let me just say about that. How else could you be the bottom? How do you be the bottom? You have a How does it become how? How does it become bottom? So, don't they go hand in hand? In other words, it's much more that the of the It became It became on on the through the bread. It seems like that you could be mikadesh the bread on the weekday. That you could put the bread into the shulchan on the weekday. Otherwise, why in the world is the mishna saying that the chinuch happens on shabbos? It's obvious. When's If the only day of the week that you could put the bread onto the shulchan is shabbos, so that's the only day that it became mechunach through the bread. If I knew that the only day you could light the menorah is on Chanukah, let's say. So, I don't need the mishna to tell me that the only time to be mechunach the menorah is on Chanukah. I know that the only time you obviously can't light the menorah on Purim. If the only time to put the bread into the shulchan is on a shabbos, so the only time you give mechunach is on shabbos. The only time you could be mikadesh is on shabbos. He go over kamashma That's exactly what we want to tell you. The chinuch the kodesh the shulchan mechunach shabbos. That the way it became mechunach is through the bread. And the lechem uponim could only be on shabbos. And may Allah it goes hand in hand. And kamami, that's what we want to tell you. You cannot put the the the the lechem uponim. I don't like calling it bread. The lechem uponim, you can't put in Hebrew lechem means bread, but it doesn't sound, you know, kodesh enough. The lechem uponim doesn't go into the shulchan on a weekday. Because if it did go on the shulchan on a weekday, then it could be mikudash on a weekday. The reason why the lechem uponim could only become kodesh on a shabbos, it could only be inaugurated on shabbos because the lechem uponim only goes on the shulchan on shabbos. You got to save. That's what we also learn. The mishna says that the mishna makes this thing. The menorah, there's no other time to light the menorah, only in the evening. So, what else could it be? The mishna is telling you as that it goes hand in hand. When you light the candles, that's when it becomes mechunach. When you put the bread in, then it becomes kodesh. And it's on a shabbos. And for the menorah, it's in the evening. Torah about him. >> [clears throat] >> So, actually Yocum is better for heating so the more says it's a interesting line to the statement one of these riddles. There was at one time in history where the service brought not on the result where we always bring it in the hole. Rather on the you bring the and the and all the other ones. One time somebody brought on that back. But it was a very special thing was a it was an exception to the rule. When was it? I got So we have a we have a a thing one time in history an individual brought tires on his back which means the each one individually brought the tires as a gift on his back heater. So the Yocum is better for heating so the more says it's a uh It's like a one time thing that he brought it which is actually strange. He brought it on the giant what? The Yocum is better for heating so the more says it's a uh That was an exception to the rule that he brought it on the outside but in the inside maybe he could bring and then you can make another deal with the back of the heater and see what we can do. Perhaps the fever could bring tires as a communal gift on the back of the heater. But that can't be so the more just brings a bracelet that it that's also for Yocum and the fever. But at the end of the day we have a deal from here that he could and says the one time it was a one time thing on the outside one that the inside one a Yocum could bring so what do we do? But I don't know it says you can't. What is the definition of a zero? And I'm going to say the policy that when you make a you're going to bring a gift you have to keep it. You're not going to bring on a double of only what the Torah tells you. You maybe maybe okay individual can bring a private because we don't find anywhere else in the Torah that a kid do that. I would see maybe but maybe a whole community could bring tires as a gift to a sham. Because you see that the Torah does bring every single day tires. It's you're the community cannot bring tires. Perhaps the means on the inner the one the normal for the perhaps the community could bring it on the outer back. Exactly the way I told commanded you. Don't do anything extra. You could only do what I commanded you to do that is to bring twice a day don't bring any more even if you're the community. So to give more. So we have a deal that could bring in the inner and the could bring on the outer what do we do even though we just learned that he can. The way you like it is Of course the community cannot bring extra tires. We never found anywhere that individual could bring tires like a kind does on a daily basis. Perhaps you want to mimic what the machine did. The machine brought tires on the outer so you too in 2026 you're going to decide oh I'm like an Aussie. I'm going to bring Tyrus on the Adam is bear." And then we say, "No, you're a shy Aussie. Impossible. It's not going to work." Oh, easy stuff now. I got it, though. How many going God all the way up by my house time? There's a rule that the coin God will bring a minute every single day, half in the morning, half in the evening. He brings in a certain of flour from home and he divides it. Every single day, twice a day. One in the morning, one in the evening. But it has to be loyal by my house time. You cannot go home and bring you half. You have to bring the whole sheer of an Aussie and divide it. So let me ask you a question. Let's say we know that 300 K on them go to them died in the second bias. In 400 years, for something for 20 300 died. In other words, it's very possible that a coin God will brought his minute in the morning and then he died. So the coin God that takes over that day, what is he supposed to do? How many what does he bring? A half? Two halves? Zero? What does he bring? Do you bring because we just said that the coin God will cannot bring you half a sheer from home. He has to bring the whole sheer. Now half was already given. So now what does he do? So that's what the mission is going to discuss. But this is a solid rule. We're not going to break this rule. The rule is you cannot bring halves from home. Bring the whole. It's heavy. Weighs 5 lb. If you have to carry 5 lb for 2 mi, it's very heavy. It's a lot easier to carry 2 and 1/2 lb and go back home and come back again. No. We're going to go by my house time. And then maybe it's all in China with the same. You can bring a full amount. You have to bring a full amount and you chop it in half. Half in the morning, half in the evening. Mark of Mexico by the human being. He makes six breads out of it each time and he throws the breads onto the mizbeach. I'll show you a video in a second. If he's a coin that brought a half in the morning then he dies. We need to go after only They pointed a second coin godel instead of him. Do not bring a half of the siren from your house. And the half of the siren of the first one He has to bring a holy siren. And he and he divides it. He only He only puts half of it on the mizbeach and the other half goes fight. Have to burn it. The first half of the coin godel that was nifter has to be burnt. The second half of the the new coin godel has to be burnt. So two halves are brought, two halves are burnt. Turn it over. Easy gemara now so we have to move. It's almost repetitive. If you remember what you said said the words mincha half so bring half from your home. Then he then he goes home and he brings another half. Mincha shalem makriv. Mincha means from it the half from it. So that's you have to start off with the whole. Okay it's that. Maybe siren shalem you bring the entire amount and you divide it. Have in the morning have in the evening. if the second half becomes tummy? Now what do you do? Maybe you should go home and bring a half. You always have the full amount and you divide it. You have to go home bring the full amount, divide it. Okay so maybe siren shalem and then he makriv the second half that he wasn't makriv yet but now he's left over with the whole half. All that you have to burn it. Then it comes out that he comes out that he he was macro with the right amount and two halves are lost. One became to me and the second half that he went home and brought the whole amount that second half also has to be burned. It makes The coin God dies. One somebody else instead of him. Maybe she use the original coin God's half. He's not good with half. Okay, he divides it. And he's macro with it and half goes to waste. This is craving. No condition here, right? Hasar I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm not sure what you're talking about. I'm not sure what you're talking As we saw in the video, you take both halves and you put them in the fire. I understand that the first coin God he brought two halves. One he one he put on his back. The second one he's about to put on his back then he died. So since it was right to be put on his back so now it became possible cuz he's dead. So now it's possible. You can't bring it on. It's possible. So I understand why something that's possible you have to burn. Because he would got sick. Actually maybe not. Maybe the first one the one that's asking no. The first one is not possible. Why is it possible? It was right to go on his back. It's not possible. This second one the second coin when he brings a whole amount and he knows to begin with that half is not going to be good. That's possible. You already have them so I don't need to wait for Selena. Yeah. It's possible right now. So if it's possible right now, why do you have to leave it overnight? Leave it possible. Because leave it possible. So, you might have to money. Who said that you need to leave it over? That's that's his sheet. That's his sheet. So, he says even if you have the bad cover on it, you made a certain carbon possible. You have to you have to wait overnight to put on the back. So, you see that even if something is possible, you have to wait overnight. So, do I have what? I said what I said. I said put it on. No, no, no, no. You have to wait overnight in order to burn it. Not to put on the back. That I really said that? For real? Wow. I would not even even though I said it and you tell me I said it, I don't have any recollection of it. Wow. You wild it. Somebody made people. People. People is a terrible soul. You could die for if you eat it. Who do you do? So, you think it's possible. It's possible. Burn it right now. No, you can't burn it right now. On the basis of it. You have to wait overnight and burn it. So, the same thing with our flower. It might be possible. We have to wait overnight. Flower is certainly not as possible as people. People is much more common. Okay. You can say that goes according to people. You don't have to wait overnight. You can burn it immediately. On the basis of it. Even the people you buy high market you buy high market. When the coin the second coin got divides flower in half. He has a choice. He can use the one on the right the one on the left. So, since they're both available to be put on the back, they don't have a soul. It doesn't have a soul. So, in order to to burn it, you have to wait overnight and then get a soul. It might. It might. How do you how do you make In other words, let me explain the question. The question is that in the possible there seems to be a contradiction. First it says "Makhvas" means you bake it. "Mubahas to be anal" means that you put it in water. "Khalita" put in water. And then it says "Tufine". "Tufine" means we're going to say that it's somewhat in oil. Here, let me just show you in the pictures it would look something like this. "Makhvas" is the one on top left corner, which is in the oven. You're you're baking it. "Mubahas to be anal" means "Khalita" in water. "Tufine" is a little bit of oil. So, how do we get around all these things? So, may Allah we know they have to do all these processes. But which one comes first? Is "Makhvas" first and then uh "Tufine" uh oil or is it the opposite? So, we have a "Makhlikas". Actually, we have a three-way "Makhlikas". How could it be three-way "Makhlikas"? It's either you bake it and then oil you deep fry it or you deep fry it and then bake it. And what's the third option? Bake, fry, bake. You I saw you also knew it. Bake, fry, bake. It's my First you bake, then you fry. Deep fry, then bake. Says that I'm right. The what? First you bake, then you deep fry. "Tufine", look at the word "Tufine", which is super interesting word. phenomenal. In other words, if you were to deep fry first, it'd get a very dark color, not a nice color. So, what do you do? First, you bake it. You take the baked good, you There's nothing It's like Oh, it's like a donut. Taking a donut, putting into the First, you have to bake it a little bit, then you throw it into a bunch of oil. It comes like a smack. I don't know if they do it like that, but it sounds good. They don't do it like that. Some places do. >> [laughter] [snorts] >> So, the reason Oh, first you deep fry it. Why? To finish it and then the once when you bake it, it's already be slightly How do you call it? It's like you finish. No. It's the finish up like Sometimes, they sell you stuff that's like half done and you throw it in. Here, it should be deep fried sort of and then you throw it into the oven, you bake it. Here we go all through all three sheets. To finish it and then the You should first deep fry it a little bit so that when you bake it, it should be um rare. No, rare. Ready raw, not raw 100% but rare. Ready to finish it and then the You should make it nice, not raw, not rare in rare, not all. Pretty, nice. So, how do you make it nice? First, you bake it, then you deep fry it, it's marvelous, beautiful. And finally, the third sheet that we didn't see yet, we didn't see to finish it and then the You should bake it twice. In other words, bake, deep fry, bake. It's like raw, it's like raw. Like this. You You first you bake it. So, when you Sorry. You bake it first, it's going to have raw. It's going to be nice when you put it into the deep fry. You're also going to It's also going to be Oh, where you going? Oh. And yours, I thought you you stopped sharing. And also, it's going to be uh slightly cooked, undercooked before you put it into the oven for the second time. It's not awesome. We got another We have a minute or two. It's not awesome. Everything you do with the with this uh um mincha of the kohen gadol whether you're kneading it or braiding it or baking it everything has to take place in the azarah. Here's the big chiddush. The is the shabbos. So, that's the sugiyah we're going to go do a little bit today mostly with the rest tomorrow. It's doiche shabbos. You can do this on shabbos. You can bake it on shabbos. We don't know I mean how do I know that you can push it off? Shabbos is pushed off. You don't have to bake it on Friday. Omer Rav Tofinei Tofinei Tofena Na. You have to It has to be a nice bread. The met wall. In Israel there's a big no-no here in Israel. You can never have second day old bread. It doesn't work. Always the fresh bread. Why? Because if you bake it a day earlier in Israel it could blow up a little bit. It's not It's not kishmen. So, it's doiche shabbos. You can put it in the refrigerator. So, in those days they I guess they had They had their little ways of keeping things fresh. They would uh put it in some vegetables. I don't know what. Kavush almost seems like uh to pickle it. Pickle it in in in you pickle bread pickle bread preserve oh preserve is the right word. Preserve it in the vegetables. The baby be small tuna. They also No, there's a possuk that says they also you should you shall do it. How? Even on shabbos. They also even if there's tumah Raboisai shuros toives have a wonderful day and a and a and a meaningful fast and a gishmaka purim. >> [music and singing] >> Merit the schuss of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a share today. mdy.sponsor.com or [email protected].