CHAZARAH - Menachos Daf 45 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] >> Good morning rab boys. Ah, leading is in the morning time. Okay, so we have the the matnos Adam. All I want to show you is a very common doing the matana. He goes on the side of the mizbeach and he he applies the blood on one out of the four corners. Now, the law here is some some carbonas you need to apply it on all four. You actually should do it on all all carbonas all four. So sometimes you just do two applications which are considered four because he hit it in the corner and it spreads the two walls. So it's two that is four or you do it on four. Over here he went and he did it on one corner. Not make it. Where where Paris Paris Halos is all about things that don't How do you say make it in English? It's not make it. So you do one and you have a capara. Turn around How do you know that it works? You never make it You did it one one application that is good enough. Says the mission. So we're going to have to see what we're talking about. Are we talking about but when you bring a mussaf and you have the bulls, you have the you have the the rams and you have the sheep. So if you only have bulls, bring the bulls. You don't have rams though. Okay, it doesn't mean that you should not bring the bulls. Now within the bulls themselves, there's another here. Within the bulls themselves, you don't have to bring both. If you only have one, you bring one. Whatever you have, you bring. Two kidushim, yeah? The type, if you don't you don't have the other types, you can bring one type. And within the class and if you have to bring seven class and you only have one, bring one. They're not ma'akev one another. Ha part of a class and ain't no ma'akev other. If I may I'm highly aware of them part of a Reuben. It's referring to the amount of money they have. If the base I may lose is able to afford the bulls. But they don't have enough money to to buy wine. The wine that comes that accompanies these bulls. So you do is you bring one bull with the wine. And don't bring many bulls without the wine. It's better to bring one bull with the wine and that's a complete set. Set, a complete whatever, yes. It is not a bad word. Rather than bringing two without the wine. Seven seven class without the wine. Says the money I don't know you bring wine with the class. How do you part of them? Who class and they have so what are we referring to exactly? Is it Rosh Chodesh? Is it Sukkot? Is it Shavuot? What is it? We're talking about Sukkot. That can't be. As we learned a bunch of times in our there's different words but one of them is everybody knows this word from from the leaning on Sukkot. It means to be ma'akev. It doesn't impede. It does No, what's the word? We just had it. It's hinder. Hinder. It's ma'akev. So we have to move to something else. Other Rosh Chodesh. We're talking about the most of Rosh Chodesh here. Most of Rosh Chodesh, right over here. Parim Shnayim V'ayil echad, the one ram. Kvasim, shiva. Okay, so don't worry, Rosh Chodesh. V'at ser is the Chumash of Pekudim. So, I want the oil in here to look at this and look at it carefully because we're going to talk about this a little bit. We're going to go back and forth. The Gemara calls the one on the left Pekudim and that's referring to Musaf. When the Gemara says Pekudim, Parshas Bamidbar, it's referring to Musaf. And when it talks about Toras Kohanim, Vayikra, it's talking about the Shnei Halachim. They're both talking about Shavuos. On Shavuos, you bring Musaf and you bring Shnei Halachim. You bring the two breads and everybody knows that the two breads that are accompanied accompanied by two kvasim, the shlamim, but in addition, people don't really know that there's other stuff. So, when it comes to the sheep, they're the same. The Shnei Halachim and the Musaf, you have to bring seven and seven. When it comes to the bull and the rams, they're reversed. The Shnei Halachim, you bring one bull and the Musaf, you bring two bulls. And the Shnei Halachim, bring two rams and the Musaf, bring one ram. So, Musaf is one and two and Shnei Halachim is two and one. You can see it here in a visual. If you're listening to us on TorahAnytime, I feel bad for you. Shnei Halachim, you bring one bull, two rams. Great. But, we're going to go back to it. Says the Gemara, but ayil d'eichad, eida hanu. D'eilu. Now, let's look what the pasuk says over here. How many How many rams do you have on the left side in the Musaf? My boy says, it's visual, also. There's one. One. And look what the Mishnah says. Let's start at the Mishnah. Haparam v'ha'ayil, plural, there's two. Back kvasim, at least two, minimum two. So how could it be Rosh Chodesh? Rosh Chodesh Musaf only has one. Shavuot only has one. Let's see Rosh Chodesh. Let's go back to Rosh Chodesh here. Rosh Chodesh only has one. It's blown up. It's It's easy to see. So can't be what the Mishna says. When the Mishna says alum it's referring to Rosh Chodesh or Shavuot. And it can't be Sukkot. Why? Cuz Sukkot it says k'mishpatam. It has to be as so. You can't change it up. It's Whatever it is on Sukkot that you bring that's it. You can't change it. It is makif. E that says the Torah scale Adam. So you're going to go to the shnei ha'lechem. You're going to go to the right side. Shnei ha'lechem is one bull, two rams. Have I tzibur? Look, I highlighted in yellow. It says you. You means as is. It's no worse than k'mishpatam. We had throughout Zevachim Menachos. It says you. You means do not change the number. If you don't have seven kvasim, don't bring six. It has to be you as is. Oh, okay. Good. But we have a much stronger question. It's a good question but it's a it's a stronger one. You have I There's nothing you can do about it. Lo alum says the Torah that says the that says that says the Torah scale Adam. We are talking about the one on the right. We're talking about the shnei ha'lechem. V'al ha'gova. Lo alum the Torah scale Adam may actually alum the chamisha b'kudim. Lo alum the chamisha the chamisha b'kudim the chamisha b'kudim chamisha b'kudim. May akiva do alum the Torah scale Adam. It's not a chamisha. It's chamisha. He's right. So the ones on the right and the ones on the left are not makif. Let's say you only have enough for shnei ha'lechem. So you bring two rams, one bull, seven sheep. And shnei ha'lechem and shnei ha'lechem. What happens in Musaf is not my problem. The The two The two separate korbanos. The two The two different sets. So one is for shnei ha'lechem, one is for Musaf. One is not machliv the other. That's all it says here. The The Bamidbar is not machliv the Vayikra. Whatever you're doing Bamidbar, if you have enough it says you you have to bring exactly as is. Great. But one is not machliv the other. You have to have the full set on the right, and we don't care about how many you have on the left, or the full set on the left, we don't care about the right. It says the Gemara something's wrong here. Ela Parim daf ilu hadodi lo machlivi. When it comes to the bulls, we're saying that they they each other, the two bulls, are not machliv. V'eilim d'hahu d'hahu hudai machliv. Now when it goes to the rams, the rams of the Schnei Luchos are not machliv the ram of the Musaf, and vice versa. Einu machlivi. But within the Schnei Luchos you're telling me that it is machliv. So we're doing we're we're doing two different things here. We're We're saying that the the bulls are not machliv each other, but one is not machliv each other either. Like we're going from Schnei Luchos to Musaf, that's one not machliv, and also within itself they're not machliv when it comes to the bulls. But that's two different types of not machliv. So says the Gemara, yeah, ton of mealy mealy kutani. What You're right. Yeah, it's two different types of machlivs. One is bulls, one is rams, two different things. Uve'yom hachodesh par uven boker. So now we're going into a little bit of aggadata. It's We're going to real aggadata, but it's it's sort of like an aggadata. Why? Because we're going to take the psukim from Yichezkel and show how they seemingly don't line up with the psukim in the Torah. They look like a contradiction. Uve'yom hachodesh says, now let's let's look at this pasuk carefully. We all know this pasuk. We say it all the time in Rosh Chodesh. Couple at least 12 times a a year, or 11 times a year. Roshei hachodesh How many How many bulls? Parum. Parum two. Quasim shiva. I owe one. Doesn't line up with the castle. It says par. This person says parim two. How many more cars? And then it says shisha quasim. Doesn't line up with the seven that's in the tire. The eye of the mean of you. Okay, so I also look at What's going on with the castle? What you're going to say is you should not have any more than that. It says in the tire two, but it's castle's coming to tell you what if you only have one? Bring one. Tell me a par. Shisha quasim tell me a man. You should go to the tire shiva. The tire says you need seven. You don't have seven, you only have six. You should bring six. Tell me a shisha. You don't have shisha, you have a shisha. How many of you have a bar? I will have a shisha. You don't have four, you should bring three. You should have a shisha. You only have one, bring one. Tell me a man with a castle to get a toy. Whatever you you could you you could afford, whatever you can get, that's what you bring. You bring get one one cheap, bring one one out of seven. I have to say shisha quasim only. So the more I ask No. Oh, yeah. Why I have to write six? Lomali. In other words, it's it's either seven or one. What does six mean? The comma doesn't matter. It's whatever you could three, four, five. Each one is better than the next. But don't be all or nothing person. >> You might think, "Once I'm not doing seven, I'm going to just do one." >> Exactly. It's seven, we have a puzzle with seven, we have a puzzle for one. Do one. If you you can't do the whole amount, so do one. No. If you can do three, not only that, says the Gemara. When we learn in Shulchan Aruch, it says, "What does the question mean?" That if you have six, you are required to bring six. Now, you can't say, "Oh, I'm allowed to bring one." I would think if I have seven, then of course it's makif, but if I have six, I have another number that it's not makif. No. The makif is in every number that you have, you must bring that as the entire amount. Tamar lo yimar you. For that, I talked in need of pasuk you. We we forgot for a second that says you, that the What what are you going to do with the you? If if it's not a You always means it has to be exact, and you can't veer off what the Torah says. But, we just veered off. We said, "If you don't have seven, bring one." So, we we we basically got rid of the you. Says the Gemara, "No, we didn't get rid of the you. You is telling us, whatever you have in stock, you are required to bring that whole that whole stock, you." That's a big yes. It's not all or nothing, but it's also you have to do the best you can. The best you can. Give it all day. The best you can. What you have. In other words, your kishronos, your koach, your ability, the hours that you have in the day left over after you come back from work, that's what you have. Koyomar Shmuel Kheim. So, now we're going into Yechezkel. Different interesting psukim that seemingly don't make sense. Berishon be'echod lachodesh. Berishon means the first month of the year, meaning Nissan. Be'echod lachodesh. Tikach par ben bakar tamim v'chiteisa es hamikdash. Take this bull, the single bull, and you should use it as a chatas. V'chiteisa means that you should clean, but it's a loshon of chatas. Asks the Gemara, "Chatas? Olah he." It's not a chatas, it's an olah. Omer Rabbeinu Bachya, "Parshas Zos ha'Olah as the drasha. I have no idea what's going on here. I have to to for Eliyahu Hanavi." The Rashba asks a bomb kasha. Why do you have to wait for Eliyahu Hanavi? Wait for Yechezkel Hanavi. He wrote it. Ask Ask the Ask the author himself. What? Oh, why? Who says? Okay. That's what he says. That's That's That's what he says. What What if he comes before? And uh yeah, he comes a little bit before Yechezkel. So he's going to come to about the midrash. You ask him. Another question they ask is The Gemara always mentions that Eliyahu Hanavi comes to this town and that town. He showed him this. He told him this. The Gemara in Brakhot right in the beginning of Brakhot, he was in a churban. Eliyahu Hanavi. So why don't we ask Eliyahu Hanavi all our questions? When he When When When he shows up to the town, ask him the question, "Teiku." So "Teiku." No, of course he knows him. No, no, the Gemara it it says Eliyahu Hanavi came. That's something else. I'm saying when he talks to him in learning. He He spoke to him and he says, "Eliyahu, what's the Why don't you ask him the teikus?" Oh. So I'm just Okay. I'm going to control myself. Those who have the question, they they looked in the art scroll. They have the question from the art scroll. They know the answer from the art scroll. So I'm going to say the question. I'm going to say the answer. When Eliyahu Hanavi comes to tanna, he comes as a malach. As a malach lo bishmayim. The Torah is not in shamayim. We're hoping he's going to come as a as a in the form of a person and then he'll be able to answer the the teiku. It's It's the korbanos that they brought the same korbanos they brought by Moshe, they brought by Bais Sheni. Tanna d'bei Eliyahu Parsha zu Eliyahu as the darshan. Rebbe says, "I still I don't understand it." It says, "Bichitei sah." I don't know what it means. I'm going to wait for Eliyahu Hanavi. Miluim kiyuvu b'mei Ezra same answer k'dei rashi kiyuvu b'mei Moshe it's the it's referring to the korbanos of of the milluein. Omar the son of you. Thank you for now relax. I have a good shot. Next problem. It says cannot eat in the villa. As the what is he say that only in the villa. No one can eat in the villa. something that we have to wait for another year. I don't know what to say. The question is in the so good I will be we know that a could could eat from Malika. When does he eat from Malika I say? I don't know what to say. Not I don't know what to say. You can eat from Malika which is basically a tray for So he has a header in tray for so I think that maybe has a header somewhere else. Come on even a coin cannot eat the villa tray for. The two words here. Shiva the seventh of the month. What is going on here? So we know there's a concept called this entire possible talking about I don't know what to say. When I stroll gets a sack here from This is our old parallel and over. This is Sanhedrin makes a sack that you're allowed to eat a certain type of not all certain type of it. This part. Between the time or a certain type of of the within the animal. Oh. He eats it. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is. Let's see what you mean. I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say. Shiva shvatim shichatu. Now, in order to bring a pile of dover, need roiv klal. So, this is the older one that the Yoshe did. There's There's two ways to view Klal Yisrael. In numbers, let's say Klal Yisrael is 10 million people, so 5.1 is is the roiv. Or you can go by shvatim. So, even though the shvatim, they're less in terms of people, but they're more in terms of the amount of shvatim, the seven shvatim versus the five, even though they have less people, they fill up less seats in the stadium, they're the roiv. Even though you don't have the majority in numbers, you have the majority of the electoral votes of the shvatim. Now, the word choidesh, so seven is referring to the the amount of shvatim, not to the day of the of the month. What about the word choidesh? It doesn't mean month? No. Choidesh comes from a loshon of renewal. Im chitzu uv'omru cheilev mutar, they said so, a new choidesh. They said cheilev is mutar. Me shoigeg um peisi, now fits into the rest of the posuk, that you're talking about a shoigeg, you're talking about a peisi. V'lamah shechayav me'elah l'meilah um dover, um shiggas maiso. That Beis Din made a mistake, they thought it's mutar, and then you ate it b'shoigeg. And here the boy said, enjoy this, this is a piece of aggadata. Omer Abaye, Omer Rav. Zocher oiso Yisrael toiv, there's a person that we must remember for the good, v'Chanina ben Chiskia sh'moi. This is Chanina. Sh'malai hu, without him, nigmas Sefer Yechezkel. The entire Sefer Yechezkel wouldn't be in existence today. Shoi divrei soisim divrei Torah. We couldn't understand it, and it looked as if there was a contradiction between Yechezkel and the Torah, and you have to get rid of it. There's nothing we could do. It's going to bring about bad things. People are going to start questioning the Torah. May also, what do you do? Hello, shlosh me'os garvi shemen. He brought 300 barrels of wine. Now, usually oil. Oil. Shemen means wine, oil. I'm kidding. Shemen is oil. 300 barrels. 300 is also a loshon of a guzman in the gemara. 300, 400. He brought 300 barrels of of oil. May also, hello shlosh me'os garvi shemen. ba'alei of a drasha. He brought with him 300 barrels of oil and he said in the attic. By the way, this is a famous attic. This is one of the most famous attics in in in shas. This is the same attic from shabbos that Beis Shammai were there and when we had the the 18 zeros of of the of of Beis Shammai, the Beis Shammai beat out Beis Hillel. The question is as I as I it says over there. The the alley he was when he he was in he was in the alley over there and they came and they visited him. Al Shimon bar Reuben. So, Shimon says it's better to bring one with wine than many without. Turn around the eifah of a par. How many how many how much how much uh um flour do you bring for a bull? You bring three. But, it says in the pasuk one. The eifah of an ayil. How many you bring for a ram? Two. But, it says one. Al Shimon bar Reuben, it's not one. So, why does it say one if it's really three? Or two. Ela, she bar Reuben bulls without wine. It's better to bring over here what it says means one. It's better to bring one whole than a bunch of broken ones. The Al Shimon >> Bring one ram. Do not bring all of them without. It's better to bring one whole unit. Again, continue with the theme, what's not market of what? I read this mission. I didn't know what was flying here. It says Kwassem, it says sheep. It says ain't market of what? It's not market. You read the next line, it says how market is a kwassem. One minute, I'm just skipping. I'm skipping on purpose. On purpose. What is going on here? It's market, it's not market. What's kwassem? But I'm saying if you if you know a little bit of kwassem, it says like this. How market is a kwassem. That's a category they bring on Shavuot. It goes together. This doesn't have to do with the Shavuot. Because as soon as I talk about a par, alum, and kwassem, it has nothing to do with the Shavuot with the snail alum. This is something else that you bring on Shavuot. So that's what we're talking about kwassem over here is referring to oil alum, not Shavuot. That's what got me me confused cuz kwassem usually on Shavuot means Shavuot. Over here means oil alum. Why? Cuz it goes together with par alum kwassem. Okay, so not to confuse everybody. How market is a kwassem ain't market of what? You can bring the bread without them. Well, I like them market of them. And the bread is not market of them. How market is a kwassem? Whoa. Over here it says the opposite all of a sudden. How market is a kwassem? Cuz these sheep are talking about Shavuot. They're all by themselves. Right, but I'm saying if you didn't have Rashi then. So your kid reading saying mission of a par, what's going on here? Cuz you know it's possible that we're talking about crossing by themselves. Stand alone crossing means shalom. These guys right over here. Forgot to show the picture like we're so used to this. Here. These are the shalom and they go together with the breads. So without the bread you can't bring the cavis. They not crossing. >> [clears throat] >> I'm not going to let him you could bring bread without the sheep. That's the sheet of the rebuker. No, you're wrong. You cannot bring the bread without the sheep. The made an exact opposite. You could bring sheep without bread. And I'll prove it to you. What did they do in the mid bar? There's no bread in the mid bar. Why is there no bread in the mid bar beside? There's none. The question is he must. But that you could have got bread from the guy. The guy himself had bread. So take the wheat from them. Buy wheat and make make stale bread. The answer is because it's not from Israel. It's only crap from Israel. So there's no bread in the mid bar. No bread in the mid bar so they couldn't bring the but you could bring the closet. This is amazing. He is to the truth. But he didn't know why. His answer is not a good his reasoning is terrible. He says he's off. But he's right. He happens to be right. The what? car by mid bar Let's go back. What's musaf, right? means the musaf. means them. Everything that's brought down the musaf is brought down in pinchos the famous pinchos. All the all the musaf over there car by mid bar. So everything on the left they brought in the midbar. You ain't carbon midbar. You're wrong bananas. They didn't bring a single carbon in the midbar. You telling me, oh they didn't have bread, but they brought the quasim. They did not bring the quasim that go with the shnei lechem. >> [clears throat] >> And when they came to Eretz Yisrael, they brought all the korbanos. But you happen to be right. You happen to be right bananas. Bring the keves without the bread. You know why? We learned in Zevachim a lot. So for the new people, how could a kohen eat from the lechem uponim? How could he eat from it? You need something to allow you to eat it. So what allows you to eat the lechem uponim? You guys remember? The bezichin. You have two spoonfuls of frankincense of levonah. You put it on the mizbe'ach. That's the matter to eat the lechem uponim. What allows you to eat a carbon? You bring a carbon. What allow What allows you to do? The zrikas hadam. Sprinkle the blood. What allows you to eat the shnei lechem, the two breads in Shavuos? The carbon. So if you don't have a carbon, you can't eat the bread. You're stuck. You can't eat The only way to eat bread is if you have a carbon. The the sheep, when you shecht it, why you shecht You can Now you could eat it itself. But lechem like quasim, sh'ein lo matir etzmo, you can't There's nothing to be matir. Says the Gemara tonna Rabbanan, "V'kravtim aleihem choveh aleihem." From On the one hand, it seems like that you have to have bread in order to be matir. "V'kravtim aleihem." In order to be matir, you need bread? V'chatz'eni, this The next part of the pasuk, "Shiv'as quasim temimim." These words stand by themselves. "Af ki she'ein lechem." You don't eat bread. Im keima d'amoleimar aleihem. V'lamah lo yachlu quasim k'dei she'yachlu lechem? You You didn't have to bring again not like banana said, but you didn't have to bring the the sheep. It could be macro sheep before you had the bread. So in the midbar there's no sheep. There's no There's no There's no curb There's no bread. So there's no curb on it. They were tired of Maybe Kli Okay, it's not 14 over here and in this picture you have seven and seven. No, it's one seven. You only brought seven not 14. Look Look at the Look at the bull. There's only one bull on the right side and there's two bulls on the left side. So it's very different. There's only one ram on the left and two rams on the right. Two two for those who are listening. Two rams in one bull in one. Two bulls in one ram in in one. So they're different. So just like over there they're different so the sheep are also different. So the the the seven sheep in come for the another additional seven sheep a total of 14 come for the one has nothing to do with the other. All the on the right the weren't in the midbar. As the who told you? You're right. There's one bull here two bulls there. There's one ram here two rams there. But the are seven and seven maybe they're exactly the same. Since the bulls and the rams are different numbers so the the the the the sheep even though it's the same number they're different sheep. As the who told you? This is a bomb question. Maybe the fact that there's two bulls instead of one bull is to tell you that you have if If only have one bull bring two rams. And if you only have one ram, bring two bulls. It's interchangeable. You have to bring two and one. How you do it, I don't care. It could be two bulls and one ram, or it could be two rams and one bull. That's what the Torah is telling me. The Torah is not saying do it again. It's just either or. And closer to seven. No, it has to be seven. Equal. It's always equal. The one we got in America you buy your two rams, you buy your bring one bull two two rams. You buy your two rams two and one. I don't care how. It says the Torah no. Now read with me. Look at this. Look. You don't have to be a genius to see this. I did it in a way it's very easy. It's green, red, purple on the right. See? Two bulls and two rams. Green, red, purple. What's on the left? Red, purple, green. Two rams, two bulls. In other words, the bulls are at the end and the rams are in the beginning. Over there the bulls are in the beginning and the So, what do you see? You see that since the Torah changed the whole order, you see that it's a completely different carbon. And the male two and one, one and two. Seven plus you have to do 14 total sheep. Have a wonderful day. >> [music] >> Merit the spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a share today. mdy.sponsor.com or [email protected].