CHAZARAH - Menachos Daf 32 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] Good morning. We're holding the bottom of the law. This is your do you roll it this way or do you roll it this way? So the way we roll it is you go you schma. This is schma. I don't know if you could zoom in over here is what you see last as you roll it in. So you're going from going from the left rolling it to the right. So we're going to be discussing and you should make them says Rahuna. What does stewice mean? This is an easy one. [clears throat] Uh, let me They moved it again. Here we go. Stew ice. As you can see, basically sum means that there's no way to run away from the left side. The left side is closed. So, if you we zoom in over here between the parishes where it says and says it's closed. It's actually it's closed from both sides. There's a space in the center. That's the easiest way to understand summis. There's another shita that says that these are stomis right over here. This is not this that's [snorts] [laughter] also satum in a different way. So over here you can see that this line is >> is uh ends ends all the way at the ends at the at the end. Um there's a massive mas here between the rambom and the rush and the spire and pasin like the rambom and the go with the taz which is like more like a oh it's in here. >> So this is ashkenazi. If you just look at it real quickly, you can see that it's it go bisha does not finish at the end and it starts open over here and that's the that's the sheet of the taz but according to spartum this would be possible right according to this is possible >> it's like a it's like a but it's it's they they hold this is no good Okay. So, let's just say whatever means for us for for argument sake. Now, means that the it's all the way to the end of the line. All the way to the end of the left side. It's it's closed off over there. How do you tell me that it should be should be closed? The last line on what you see over here. This is the here, the sailor. Right after the here is something what we call clav. It's a very very thin uh piece of leather. And then you have a very thick piece of leather leather that's called theust that's right over here. I don't know if you could see we're talking about all this area from here. Now the really thin part, if we could zoom in, it's a different color. Rem used to write uh mizuza on the sust is the inner leather. There's two layers here coming off the the the here layer number one is the claf layer number two the thicker one is the used to use number two he would let's see if we have something basically this is so fillin are very narrow and very wide what he's saying is used to write them as like this tall and narrow. The opposite of you have to put some sort of distance between. You can't go all the way. You need a margin. You need a margin like we have today in so it's a it's a small margin. This one, you know, you don't you don't see crazy amount of margin, but there's a little bit of kaf over here. enough to grab it. So you could grab it nicely without hurting the the Now here's the problem. We just finished discussing uh that it should be as so let's say this for me my brain understands this better. like closed from the right and the left and there's a little gap that empty space in the middle all of a sudden comes and says no it's open you could run out of there if you're if you're stuck by you could get out on the other side it's open isn't this a contradiction to what we just said we just says you just ra says it should be should be and you say what's what's what's the reasoning behind this our two par of are not next to each other in the Tory and I want to show that they have no connection and by making a it shows that there's no connection by making that that's an indication that they're connected they go they follow each other the bells are pointed out to me that is not mentioned many times in sh but mostly he's mentioned here in the last him in the coming because he was a cipher and that's that was his profession. So it says in the name of so he says that what you write he said three write it narrow and long and put a little bit of a space on top and that the the parachutes are so like my doesn't it mean that the love is like him that you should have it open at the end and not closed says no what he meant is that the love is like Leave a little bit of a space on top. Don't put the all the way at the end on top. Leave a little space. To me, this doesn't look like enough space. But who am I? I don't know. I guess every Mus is written like this. Fine. How much is this space? Let me prove to you that when Raf said that is like he meant only one thing. He only meant that you have to leave a little bit on top and he didn't mean that you should write him open and not closed. But ra holds that it's a min is very very strong is to do closed. So how could you say oh I should do it open when does it close here we go how do we know that rav goes with even if himself comes you should use a soft shoe but if he says do not with a hard shoe whyand I here it's supposed to be hard. This is not hard but this is what we use today. And uh what he's saying is if a comes and says you could use this then go ahead and use it this soft one. But this is what I don't know why they use it today like this. But if he says do not use the hard one don't listen to. Okay. This is the reverse. before he said if come says use this so let we can do it together if says use this what does that mean to me then I wasn't using it until now and if comes and says do not use this that means I was using this until now there's sort of a minig in here this is a little bit of a they weren't really using it but they they were if they do use it I'm telling you don't use it So uh it's the opposite before is he says don't use it we listen that's the same as before he says do not use the hard one we don't listen to why the bottom line is here you see that is what counts and if counts then we write a closed so that's what counts why you tell me that is you should do open muza when everybody's using closed What's the difference between the two over here exactly what I just explained is the we used to use this the soft one and he's going to come and say don't use it or the is we didn't use it is going to come and say we did in other words could you use this today before comes could we use a soft one so what do we see from here obviously When we said like we weren't saying that he the is like they should use open when everybody's using clothes and that's the you can't go against the so it must be that he's talking about says listen what he said that you could do open he didn't mean you should do open you should do a closed but if you happen to do it open it's Okay. Absolutely. He didn't say you should do it like that. Even even the open ones are okay. Shabalu. Listen to this. You have a already older. You get it. You get it from the war. You know these that the words are popping off. It's like hundreds of thousands of mistakes. Not even worth fixing. What do you do? You have to put it in Giza. So you come up with the midic idea. You open it up to the par of muza. You take a scissors. You cut out you know and you cut out. You put them together. You have a nice muza. Is that okay? No, it's not okay. Why? Because you can never go downwards in. And a has much more than a muza. It's a fully fillin has more than a muza because four paras and a two. So you cannot go from a higher to lower. You cannot make a muza out of it. Why? Soar is going to ask here three or four questions at least three. There's other problems with a muza coming from a problem. One problem is that a muza has to be susum and or the opposite. Yeah, it has to be susum. The satra is susum and according to you that you say that it has to be open. You passing law it has to be open. How could you make a muza from a satara? It's closed and has to be open. Problem number two is so what about you have to have lines in muza? Maybe doesn't we passing you do different questions like that? It's made from different parchment and if the parchment is important what we learned the from the clavar is different. So how do you get around these issues? says if there wouldn't be a problem going from the higher to the lower it seems like you could take a scissors cut out from why is closed off when when you write the para according to you has to be open maybe the wrote a nice he's missing one or two in the bottom I found this in my uh I guess I did this once upon a time some if you look closely here's muza No, I cut it m down the middle and then I sewed it together with gon saying something similar the cipher let's say wrote all this and he needed a little piece to to okay nevertheless if I could go from a to muza you would make out of a there's a problem this is that came directly from the rebu The fillain are made on the on the piece of leather that that's closest to the here and muza is the piece of leather that's further away from the here on the it's different pieces. So how you going to make it out of so it's very very simple. The is the one closest to the here. Now, you're not going to write on the piece of leather on the There's one piece of leather. The one closest to the hair, it has two sides. One side had hair on it and the other side didn't have hair on it. So, you're supposed to write on what side logic the one without hair. Now, the lust has two sides to it also. One is closest to the animal like where my thumb is and one is closest to the piece of leather to the cloth. Where are you supposed to write? The one closest to the cloth. It's all common sense. Very good. Rich Marinelli. Got it. You don't write on on this side over here. The one closest to the fat to the animal. You write on the one closest to the cloth. It's nice and smooth. So when you're writing a fill in on the on the thin piece of leather that's that's touching that's attached to the hair. You don't write on the hair part to get that hair off. It's a whole process. It's the washing machine. Some people use chemicals. Some people not to use. But when you're writing on the you're going towards the here the what's towards the here the next to the cloth, not next to the animal. You're going towards the here. So, oh, so how could you use fillain to make a muza? That's different pieces of leather. The different pieces of parchment mitzvah that that you should make filling out of this piece, not this piece. That's a you want to be that's no tell me that's a mitzvah puzzle. If you don't do it like that, it's possible. No, we could be and say only fill in if you change and do fill on a instead of leather instead of the CL then it's possible. But not on a muza. So if you go from from a from a claf you use on claf you're okay. If you do fill in then you're not okay if it says even even a that's written on is no good. No, no, no. You don't understand it. Both of them are are are filling. But if you wrote the on this side next to the here, that's no good. And the other problem with fill is if you're going to use the even in the right direction you wrote on the right side the side that's closest to the here no good you know what at the end of the day it's watch if you change it up you you write on the you write on according to the rebi says I'm sorry there's a that says it's okay says one more question if you're able to to go to a lower mga and and go from toa would be okay just take a scissors cut out the param hang it up on your door this is rabbi he's very Cool. This machine goes exactly whatever it is and it goes back and forth hand, but you have to make an indentation in the actual leather and you follow makes it nice and straight. You need to if you don't have He says that the of So let me ask you a question. Maybe we were talking about that he found that had in it. I think a lot of our fill. Let me see this fillain over here. Yeah, this fillain has cer. We do certain. So maybe he found that has and he chopped out the muzza section and he hung it up on his door. You ask me how you need. It has the here like in our generation has that's question listen to I love the answer. I'm just showing it to you for the answer. The minute was not to do it. You didn't find it but maybe the guy did it. says if you potter from doing something and you do it again again I'm not asking anything here there's a concept if you don't need to do it and you do it you're a headot now there are things that we do that you don't need to do a lot of things that we need to do and we don't need to do and we do and and vice versa so you have to know those who know no but if you're be if you look if you're doing it for the mitzvah because you want to do a nicer it's it's harder for you to write and you want to write straight there's no there's no there's no you're not a you're doing it because oh but the is only then you're a now you're adding to the but you're not you want to be a cyher that writes neatly why not and here's another beautiful thing that I found in Tyus here I've been saying this for a long time and I just found in Tyus says which was very bothersome to me that you don't have to be mak on a very expensive parachin. There's no zakin. He says why because you'll never see it. It's locked up in a box and wow and my father went and spent all this money that I didn't have and I'm running around to this and getting this and that and he's the best and no he's even better the guy said I'm a grownic. So the truth is I should open up my trill and take out the paras and put simple ones in there. Look what says over here. Beautiful. since are covered there's noises say this how do you make out and you need this is unbelievable you're not allowed to say and that you're not allowed to write let's say you you know it. So it's very possible that possib guess but let's say I don't know you're you're you're a genius you know uh you went to mink okay you know all these things you're not allowed to write it you have to look into that's because you might make a mistake but when it comes to since it's so it's so common and people know it so well. You you could write here's a that says you both of them even a doesn't need. So it's not a problem. I found my that doesn't have I chopped it up. I put it in my door without because I don't need because I go according to this. The bottom line is doesn't need because everybody knows it. So, by the way, that everybody knows about P. You're allowed to say about P. But what if you know about P and no one else knows about you know it. You're a genius and you know no you know about P but 95% of the class doesn't know about Ply you have to you have to say it in a in a that's how we pass today nobody would dare do something like this even sit on a on a bench that has a how how come from this gimmar right over here he was about to if you look in the side it says he wanted to he wanted to sit down on a on a on a on a couch that had a satara on And this is I was just thinking about Noah when I when it was because when we went on safari he's shleing the back the whole time and on the plane you have to be careful like in the when you're in a taxi you you're going to the airport what are you doing with the satire where exactly you're putting this you have to constantly think so he took he took some uh paint bucket and he flipped it over and he put the on top of it and then he sat He holds and this is how he pass sit down on a on a bench that has a he on he holds your lad sit down on a on a bed that has a tell you know from a story what happened in the story he also realizes on the jumped off like a like a you ever saw like once in a while you get to see like a woman sitting somewhere and all a sudden like a bee shows up. YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED LIKE THE THE jump the as if a snake bit him says what happened was they're bringing you know the into and he noticed that somebody took something off the bed and put it on the floor. So this amarat was like oh I'm going to make room for the gule. He took a safety and put on the floor. He thought when he sat down, he thought maybe it's like, you know, a child. I don't know what a box. Then all he looks down, he can't believe his eyes. He sees the secret on the floor. So then he jumped as if a a snake bit him. But don't worry about it. He says, "Yeah, that the bed was a little loud. It's the lower part of the bed. Sit on the bed. That's that's going to allow to sit on the bed with his if you write him like like a letter. In other words, so before we said what's yesterday we said means long and narrow. But today Rashi says means without the and without too much dto whatever that means it's puzzle says the word by it also says three times. So we learned that you need can you take a muza put it in a temporary stick and put it next to your door lean it up against the door post. Does that work? Yes or no? The answer is no. It's a tremendous. Fine. We'll just stop over here. That what when listen to this. When they went to hotels, that hotel didn't have a muza. They would put the muza, they would take the stick that golden cough gave them, whatever his name is, put on the door. Even though you're not yita, which just to remember there's a concept called muza rais. Have a wonderful day. Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today. mdysponsor.com [music] or sponsor atmop.com.