CHAZARAH - Menachos Daf 30 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] Good morning rap boys. of and we have big questions on him. The first one is said if on every single a column, how many columns or boy are there in a typical safer toyra today? Anybody know the answer? 245. How many rows per column? >> 42 on average. Typical safety 245. Goes when you buy seafar, they go by the by the um they tell you I want $1,000, a,000 shekel, 10,000, whatever the guy wants. It goes by the um so if in each um there's two mistakes, you should you can fix it. Three, no fixing, toss it. You have to be what's the problem? The problem is this is what we stick with that the the the amount is four mistakes not three said three mistakes you have to put it in it's really four if there's one out of 245 that's good and doesn't have mistakes so it could the survives you can fix the rest said in the name That is that there's not more than five six mistakes per and what if the the the best out of all the this is there's a lot of mistakes. If the best column has three mistakes and that you're allowed to fix those three, is that considered a saving? Since you're permitted to fix it, you fix it. So now that it's fixed, it's good. And this it's a good and it could save the rest. When can you fix it if letters are missing? I'm sorry. When is it problematic? and and only up to four when when words are missing. If he added a letter here, a letter there, it's not a problem. Why? Because you just scrape it off and you don't have that letter. So, what's the problem with missing? So, first of all, very interesting. Yesterday, the guy promised us that he has a copy of this. So, here it is. Here's that muza. And he even puts it in his notes on the side. It says the owner of this muza kept on eating and never got full. That's a this is so instead of it says you have a nice heart. >> You can't change. >> Yeah. Right. Correct. Correct. You can't do these these uh these fixes. These are all I'm just showing uh examples of so he says what's the problem of there's the issue there's issue of and when you have something like this look what are you going to do you're going to put the r on top over there you're going to add a letter so it looks like uh it looks like a like like a spotted leopard. Doesn't look good. Doesn't look what's the word I'm looking for? >> Not symmetrical. >> Okay. Yeah, whatever. You get the idea. It doesn't look good. The bottom line is doesn't look good. And that's all it is. What? >> No. Says story. Oh, the father-in-law had extra like four letters in every So, the father-in-law goes to the son-in-law. If it's extra, the you just take a knife or something and you peel it off. You It pops right off and that's okay. Okay. So that was one that's not like what said three mistakes you have to put in it's four. What's the other one? You're done with the how do you finish it off? What's the best way to finish it off? So you should finish off a last last line. The last word should be at the last line at the last available space. It just fill up the whole perfectly. That's Now, today I was at a cipher and he showed me a beautiful trick that they have. They have this uh they have like a I don't know how it works. I'm trying to think how it worked. It was something with a light that shines that you put your your cloth and you you put something below it and a light shines and basically you see the outline of all the letters on your cloth. All you have to do is trace it. It's very good not to not for the surah of but it's very good for the spacing. you know exactly how wide each word should be. So it's not like you get to the end of the line and oops I have this much missing. They have to stretch that r a lot and have to the you know they use that for filling for I don't know if they use it for satar probably there's different tricks some people just take a a piece of paper and they put it next to it and they see you know there's a lot of things that you could do with today's technology but in those days you have you get to the end of safety now you have 40 lines left what are you going to do is that okay to finish the safety with all that empty space and is it okay to finish in middle of a You could finish off a even in middle of a page like this in the middle of a page. You have all that empty space. So the problem is it says you shouldn't do when when you're you shouldn't finish the middle of the page if you're doing like the the four when you're in the last last you see that you're running out of time. You see you're running you're running out of words. What do you do here? Do something like this. You have you don't you have to get to the bottom. Now what do you do? So each line you go less and less and less less words until you get to the bottom. Then it call you have to be a genius to to make it look like that. According to to other show it's you you start in the beginning of the of the row. It's more like a it's the same same as the left side but it's it's not it's not a cone. It's um like a like a triangle but a awkward triangle like it's okay. You get the idea. The right side is straight. The left side is in an angle. Fine. It seems like Rashi later on doesn't This is Rashy's picture. Rashi says and uh you said so it seems like this is Rash's drawing but later on could be that Rashi says a little different. Okay, we'll see. upon him. So we have a problem here. How does Rav say that you can finish the Syra in the middle of a page? It says over here you have to go all the way down to the bottom of the page. Raph said you could you can stop in the middle of the page. He's talking about in those days imagine they didn't have the printing press. They everything had to be handwritten. So you had a at home. It was one volume. Okay. The end of could be you can finish a middle of it. It's not a satyra. That's a great answer. But Raph says the words he's writing. It means we're not talking about we're talking about very good. That's a nice uh nice try. Says he's referring to the end of the last words of he says it could be the middle of the page. says, "We must say he's talking about a middle of the middle of a line." In other words, you're finishing it off. Let's see if I even have it here like this. The last line, it doesn't go to the end. That's not That's not fair. At least he got to the bottom of the page. Rabon say it's not a problem that you could go middle of the line and you could even go in the middle of a page, finish off the middle of a page. No, you can't finish off in middle of a page. You have to finish off dka at the end of in middle. If you finish in the middle of a line, that's okay. That you could do. You could uh you could finish off in the middle of a line, but not in middle of the page. We're talking about this right over here. The last last in red of the do not give out two alias. Don't try to be nice to somebody and say, "Oh, it's the end of the Tyra. We're going to do another a mini at that." No, no, no. >> The lastim have to be written by read by one is one aliyah. Why? Because they're different than the rest of the we're going to see. There has to stand out that this is special. This is different. It's unique. Why? This doesn't go like says that over there. How could write it when he's alive? So must be that didn't write that all that red all the so one is that Yeshua wrote those explains that this is different than than safer Yeshua than Yeshua wrote this is given directly from the Yeshua was a nva it's a novi This is this is different. It's a different level. Something else directly from Hashem says I don't like your it's impossible that Yeshua that Yeshua wrote the last is missing one letter. It's no good. says, "Take this complete and put it in." So, how's it possible? It's missing. If one letter is missing, he wouldn't say take the safety. It's not a safety yet. It's missing the entire It says on the side over here that that it says on the side that Mosha said and then he read then he then he wrote repeats and then he writes down. writes a he didn't say it. What does it mean? So Rashi is saying that he was crying when he when told him he's going to die. In other words, he's not going to go into he had a lot of so he didn't repeat it. And that answers the question that it's not it's not a lie. wrote it. He wrote it. The same thing with telling over to he didn't want to say it over because it's the it's the it wasn't good stuff. So he wrote it the there's different pirushim here. But according to everything oh according to the villing guy it was something like thisma just means that there's no spaces that was mixed up raenu didn't know what hashem told him said right this that he just went in in a in a and he wasn't it wasn't for him to read it wasn't for him to know it was there and Yeshua came and separated now if you take a good look I don't think it's that difficult ult to like especially look at the last words I guess if you like really want to pay attention and focus but didn't realize that didn't want him to understand what's going on he didn't want to say you're dead you're dying so told him but it said you know and it kept on going so that's why means that it was mixed and didn't know what it was andu wrote But says that it's wrote all these wrote all these. Why can't you make it to alias? What's the difference? Why is it why is it different? Says, but it's different. It was rope withma. Whatever dema means with the tears with uh it was mixed up. Whatever it is, it's different. And since it's different, we don't give it to two different people. One person reads it. here this found it's a mitzvah if you write your own it's a greater mitzvah if you buy it on eBay you you you greater mitzvah to to write it yourself if you wrote a he went through the effort writing a whole three 3008 38 8,000 something like that 05 something words letters a lot and that's what we do today. We go to if you fixed up the even one lettering that you know you finished it off. It was you finish that one letter and you made it the boom it becomes yours is you know those guys that do the the big hagbas. How many amu are there on each piece of parchment? Minimum of three, maximum of eight. Don't do less than three. Don't do more than eight. Don't make them very narrow because that looks like a letter. [clears throat] And don't make them very wide because imagine you get to the end of the row and then you don't know where the next row starts and you're going to start your eyes start going up and down to catch where you are. says it three times here. Something like this. In other words, that there should be approximately 30 letters per row including two spaces including some of them are and approximately 30, not 40, not 25, approximately 30. Let's say you have a very somebody who's telling me now that he he he wrote a satra and he hired a special guy to get him the it's it's ama how to get beautiful you pay a guy in in addition the 250 that it costs per ura pay guy another 30 bucks for each one that he chooses for you it's all so you have this very wide ura what do you do with it now you should only have eight ammud but this is good for nine so you got to cut it you could cut nine 33 three, seven and two, five and four, whatever you want to do. Six and three. What do you do? You shouldn't do six and three. It's a lot more symmetrical when it's four and five rather than six. A larger one and a smaller one. It's all about when should you make these very narrow, very wide in the beginning. So something like this. Let's say this is a little narrower. You're at the the last the last puk. You have one p and a whole. What do you do? So you you you you stretch it. You go like this. You make it some each word like on a line and it's a stretch. But that's not good. You didn't do the whole page. We said you should get to the bottom. Look how much room there's over there. Says what you do is this. You stretch it and you make it taller. Each letter is giant and he did 12 words an entire gill. There's a certain shear per the gill >> margin. >> The margin. Thank you. [clears throat and cough] And this is all for should look beautiful. So to make it beautiful, here we go. The bottom should have three fingers back to this in between each thing each is two fingers worth. You see over here two fingers over here it's three on the top it's three over here between it's two at home like a handwritten three boys on the bottom and on the top two and between each one it should be the the width of the thumb. And between every row there should be the size of a row in between the rows between each word like the size of a y fit in between each word and between each letter as long as you could put a hears with. Let's say you don't have enough room. You realize you don't have enough room. Don't make this the the the font smaller because you're running out of space on the bottom because you're running out of space on top because you're running out of space between the lines parachute because you need space between different parachutes down. If you have a five letter here something like this. So over here is five letters. This is no good what he did right over here because the majority of the word is outside. This also applies to seven letter thing. [clears throat] It's not about how many letters are outside. You can put three letters outside provided that it's a seven seven letter word. So four inside three outside. The point is the majority of the word should be inside. So if you do inside and outside that's great. says that theem can never be on the margins. Right? Is that the word that I'm looking for past the line >> outside the margins? What if he has a twoletter word like the word kale? If I can find it. Oh, here. Now, Yoshi did it based on you can never put a full word outside of the margin. So, we're talking about that little bit is in the margin. The little part of the olive. You shouldn't put it between the the the columns. Take a look over here. He took the kale or L. Sorry, it's L and he put it over there. You start start a new row with it. Fine. A person makes a mistake. It happens a lot. It's a very hard job. You're right. You're right. You're right. And then you make a mistake and then you have to throw out everything you wrote. It's terrible stuff. What do you do? You wait until the the ink dries. >> You forgot to write Hashem's name. And there's another word in there. So he did a nice job here. Here right over here is supposed to say Hashem and it's missing right over there. So what do you do? It's already dry. So you take a knife, whatever you do, and you scratch it right off. Scratch it off. You put Hashem's name in there. But now you're missing the word sa. Where does sa go? CA goes on top. That's called toa. means to put on top and you put the word that you cut out you put on top means because it's putm's name inside the row inside the the line by the way again like pointed out before this is a not on you got to toss says it's not a problem you could put's name on top so you And all you do is put Hashem's name on top. That's a cool. This is the biggest that you don't have to wait until the ink dries. You just take a a cloth and you take the I guess it smears up a little bit. Not the best. And then you write remember is is uh is important because we're going to talk about what they say is like him and we want to know what is like him. Only if you put Hashem's name completely like as so Hashem's name on top mix if like part of it is in the line you know you have a little room so you're going to go like between the teeth you're going to and then on top go like that not good check this out says you're not going to erase any word you're not going to add a word on top you're not going to so what do you do there's nothing you can do take it and put it in your visa Miss Alex, but you know what's interesting? Think about it for a second. Why do you have to take out the whole ura and throw it out there? He wrote a whole bunch of stuff to the right of it. >> No. So the answer is if there's in fact three whole rows to the right of it, then you take a scissors and you just cut it. Now you have a three. But if there isn't, if there's only two rows to the right of it, so you have to throw out all three rows. The point is we said before you have to have a minimum of three rows. So if it's like number seven, so it's not a problem. You cut you cut what? >> Columns. What did I say? >> No. No. Columns. Column. Our boy said columns. Columns. I said the wrong word. If there's three columns to the right, then you don't need to throw the whole ura out. The whole parchment out. You just take a scissor, you take a blade, and you cut it nicely and you attach another one. You keep on going. But if there's you don't have three full rows to the right. You only have two rows columns to the right. Then you throw out the whole par is you put Hashem's name on top of I've never seen it but you put a top. Somebody said over here that people are I don't want any mistakes on you know these kind of things. Write me a new one. Write me a new and pass erase and write. Why don't they just say straight out is like because we we're not certain that really said he's the one that said this and said that. Some that say that they said the opposite. It was that said it not. Okay. It says the name says, "Oh, then I said that what? Don't put half of Hashem's name on one row and then the other half on top. Put the whole thing on top. Everywhere he says something is like what does it mean where? What? What are you referring to? This one right over here. You're referring to Hashem's name. They put the entire Hashem's name on top of the row, in between the rows, but not a little bit below, a little bit on top. But we said in the name of you're allowed to put the name of you're allowed to erase and write if you write that they can't do have an why don't they bring that in there also is one of the things you're allowed to erase is you're allowed to put name on top and is do not put it half and half referring to this famous we're talking about a benu is when a is an animal a mother and you find in in her stomach you find a live vlad comes out and it it lives its life you're allowed to eat it without because the of the mother is the of the baby. Even though it got to live and even 5 years later, even got to live for 5 years. Our boys said, "Take a look at this benu. [music] Maybe make it a little lower." I like the eyes of the cow, the blue. Awesome. [groaning] There you go. See [groaning] you later [clears throat] says no it can't be this said he should say not only says this but also says in the name of all right Um, let's stop right over here. A boy, have a wonderful day. 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