CHAZARAH - Menachos Daf 28 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] Good morning. We're talking about >> inside the we know I am kipper. We sprinkle the blood in different places and the we take the oil of the mits and we we sprinkle it towards the if you don't have the right intent you think about something else you think it's another carbon whatever it is that's like the first the first talks about and if you're not sprinkling in the right direction [clears throat] what we learned Even if you don't have the right intent, it's still why are you telling me it's possible? It's two different if you remember the first in tells us that there are two bonus that if you don't have the >> so we learn and on the spot in the Mishna says also he has a so if you learn from that you need then you can go one step further and say from asham to the also you need so we have we go all the way back don't have the wait a minute we have a rule in that you can only go one step you can only go from but you can't continue from to something else that's you can't repeat alert lim The limit is once from you want to go from if the limit started at the then you can go to the Luke we can't go from one to another to another that you don't do in you're right we're stuck you can't do that so it's not both as we even saw it could be that the is kosher to eat but in order to get a you You want to eat the leftovers? Fine. But to get the the kapor that you need the right kavana. If you don't have the right kavana, the owner must bring a second. We're going to a beautiful suga about the minor. There are seven branches on the if you're missing one, if you only have six, not seven, no good. You can't use the monra. And on top of each branch there's a wick with a a fire. You need seven. You only have six. No good. Asma which in the parish we it says about the if you only have one parish it's not good. Not only that, even if one letter is missing, all pars that have the the in them missing one par. No good. Right to the end of this per are things that are one another. We started yesterday got the kind of style now and then we get to where things are not these are the four are a must say so is is it has to be it's like a even one letter is boy say how many letters are inraishimboy But they counted it's we have to explain that it's 300,000 805 something like that 4 805 300,000 4 >> 304 805 >> 805 but every ice represents somebody in Israel and if you're and if you're if you're missing one ice you're missing one yidle [clears throat] the sar is gone the four. You can't walk around with three. They consider one mitzvah. You don't have a special with each one. If you have four one each one is individual and we're going to sing in the what it means that if you have a with five according to each one is a mitzvah why is each of the says it's a must like we had yesterday a bunch of the same idea if the uses that word it means you must do it as So you can't you can't make a with six branches. The came from one solid piece was a solid piece of gold is made from gold. If you made it from broken pieces, it is possible as we're going to see this that has to be made from one piece from is only when you make it out of gold. If you make it out of silver, which if doesn't have the money, you can make it out of silver. We'll see. Then it doesn't doesn't it doesn't have as why do you say if it's made from smaller pieces puzzle see it says the word mix four times here's the puzzle may be made out of gold pure gold one southpiece and at the end of the it says it must be done as so how Could you do it out of how can you make it out of silver out of copper? It says zavar. And what does it say at the end of the same? Oh my. No, but it does say the word in green is to come to include other metals. The rabbis. Okay. It's coming to to add something. But maybe it's coming to add. You must do it out of gold because it says gold. It just it makes more sense. Say you have to stick to what the says gold. Ah. It says to to add something broken pieces that fell off. Look where it says the word ma. It says the word ma next to you. The closest to you then you is actually closer. Look the green is closer than the the word ma says. Oh, so maybe you don't need to do ma. Maybe mix means one solid piece. You just do it without being solid. Yar. No. It says mix twice. Here it says this. So we know if the Torah says it twice it says at least twice. It says it four or five times. What the Gar is doing here is the Gar is going to show that there's special that we learn out of each word of and that only comes if are no good and z is good. These words of come to include these things but if gut are good and z is not then how do you get to the limudim that we have? What are some of the limudim are? What's special about gold? What's special about gold is first of all has to be one piece. It also has to weigh a kar and other metals don't have to weigh a kar and also you have which we're going to see soon. You have these designs on the only applied to gold. All these things we have to learn each one from another word. Now we have the but if you're going to tell me that broken pieces are other metals are puzzle then I don't have that I have my what are what are you going to do with all these what are the dressers you have to use 57 kilo I don't know what that is in pounds what is that in pounds uh 120 lb if it comes with z where it says buzz of key card. If you're going to make it out of gold, then you must have a key card in a buzz of you're going to use other metals. You don't need to be mid on on the weight. Oh, here I brought from home today on the it's actually pretty close to this size about a it seems like each one they had at one point that three of them together like this. Show you a picture. What's beautiful is Mati Shabas, you know, cuz we're only that day's death. So M Shabas, I'm like I call Bioshi like do you have anything from he says no? Okay, we're going to get. So he calls up our third artist and he's like let's get working. He asked me to send him some pictures. I sent him this. [clears throat] This is the art on the left >> which I have to use. And uh then he started building this and I thought I gave him artist. I said no this is this is a caftar and it has to go on the top. You know, this is just my my back and forth with him. Ma shave the hour before she so let me show you what they came up with. Beautiful stuff. This is it's very it's going to get I'll show you some detailed stuff. The you can see on the bottom. But here, let me just even go to this one. Actually, let's go to this. This is from the art school also. This just shows you the center the center piece. Now, if you look in the bottom, this is what we call a per. Okay, I'm not sure that we know exactly what it looks like, but it could be it looks something like this because the gar says later on it's the way they designed it in the columns. And if you look at the old Roman columns, they had something, you know, similar things like to these flowers. Okay, this this right over here, these guys are called kafarim. There's they're circles. They're like balls. The ra says it's a little bit like like shaped as a egg. Others say they're literally round. Here you can see three. What do you see over here? Three gaveim inside each other literally like this. Then on top of that you have a kaftar and then a perk. That's one shittita. Another shittita is this that the top I'm just go out. It was something like this that the kaftar ferak and the gavilla were all in one in one line. You see all three of them on top and it's more like this. [clears throat] There's the famous picture that the Rambam depicted and he has the the branches of the the straight and then he says that he wasn't so mak on certain things just trying to bring out certain points so not to learn from it 100%. There's a lot of This is the mana that the Mikdash made. Supposedly, it's it's gold or maybe gold coated. It's it's very expensive. And over here, you can see this is the base. The base has three legs as we're going to see. It only has three legs. >> I don't see the parak on the bottom. Interesting. Maybe over here you see like a a gave and a perk. Over here you see the caft and out of the caft comes the two branches. Another caft another caft and then he has over here three gaveim on top of the caft and a then goes the the place where they light it. That's not included in the height. We're not really discussing that today. If another side these only if it's made out of gold it's made let's say out of silver you don't do ask [clears throat] maybe the idea of of of branches which is in the same says Maybe it shouldn't have branches. If it's not not made out of gold, it shouldn't have branch. It should look something like this. I don't know without branches. Says that's not called. Anybody that lives in Israel knows what is. It's a candlestick. It's a single. It's not a mixture of these are all that we need. And that's why it makes sense to to exclude gut and to include z because now we're using all these to teach us you need a kar you need and you need mixture needs to be made out of one solid piece. Imagine I was just thinking to myself you're making this minor out of one solid piece and you get like to the right furthest branch and you mess up. It's like one tea lower than the rest. Now like you have to start all over again. Like there's no you can't fix it. It's one piece. If if you're doing it out of out of silver, you don't have to make it mix. Now, there's more mixtures going on here. So, let's take for instance this what does it come to say? There were in the mdash made it's to to call Israel together. There's no what? It's the exact opposite of the do have to come from one piece. One piece is silver. But if you make them out of broken pieces, it's the exact opposite of a where you cannot make it out of pieces. And also another thing that's the opposite is any other metal is possible. It needs to be made out of silver. Whereas you can make it out of other metals. Why? Why is it so that if you make it out of copper or even gold? Make it out of gold. Why not? It says silver and it says means it's locked in as but the the broken pieces also. It says the word mika it has to be as is one piece. Why do you say you're allowed to make it out of broken pieces? Says I'll tell you why. This is the final. You're asking what this mix is. You see this? What does it come to? It comes to exclude that needs to be a solid piece. We're back to what we said. We need all these and therefore we have to exclude for the are kosher for his generation and for all generations are different than all you make it for And that's it for his and then next generation has to make it again. What's where do you see it that you should do for you and only for you for your generation not for future's generation tells to make a box noting that we're familiar with for the for the a box it says make this box this box is only for the generation of we know they use it later on generations so cannot mean only for this generation shot him tells make this a special box for the broken he meant to say to him make it out of your own money open up your wallet buy the material with your money or there's another says he writes I don't even want theirs no but we we need to take it from everybody but is is not coming to say that future it's telling you how you should purchase this this what how do you get the material so if so the word we can't we cannot use it to say to oh you can't use this trumpet the next generation means it should come from money or or it should come from everybody's money should have been your money but it's not talking about generations it says twice. And what do we know that if it says something in twice that means only this these belong in the generation which next generation you have to make new ones 10 lines down it was one piece solid piece of gold if you made it out Silver bats if you made out of tin lead other sorts of metals. He says other types of metals are fine says wood everybody greases ple my where do you get this from? Where why do you say that all these metals are kosher but wood is possible and that's basically the the need in here. So we're doing a small sug here of cloud proud the cloud let me just explain very very simple when the says you should make out of everything. So that's a cloud. Make it out of everything. Can be glass, wood, gold, silver. Then the Tyra says, "No pratt." What's the prat? What does the Tyra say? >> Only gold. It's very specific. And then the says, "Make him out of anything." In chass there's two there's two ways to learn. You could either learn or you could learn. [clears throat] You're taking the same exact words, but you're just using a different system. It's clu. Maybe people get confused because you say it in Kbanus and you say it so fast. The difference is just a cloud. Anyway, it's [clears throat] very very super simple. When the says cl and then a pratt and a cl over here, the prat is gold. So the is saying you can make it out of anything, but it must be similar to to the pratt. So I said gold, make it similar to gold. What could that be? What's similar to gold? >> Metals. There's another thing that it could be similar to. What's gold? Super expensive. Super important. >> So, make it something important. Platinum. I don't know what silver maybe. Don't make it out of uh stainless steel. Has to be like gold. Those are two ways to learn it. Now, rey me is the same exact thing, but it the the outcome is different. Reboy I I include all the miners in the world is gold all the in what comes out is I'm going to exclude exactly one one material in the entire world and that material is going to be the polar opposite of what the Tyra says that you should use. So the T says to use gold the most dissimilar to gold. What's the most dissimilar to gold in our generation? plastic >> I think in that generation it was earthn wear the the the the lowest level clay is earthnware so when the terra says you can make a man out of everything and then the goes into specific but make it out of gold the come to exclude one thing so that's the whole really why so what's the question why does say you can't make it out of wood now answer is because if he learns cloud will rather cloud and we're learning that the has to be made out of something similar to gold and gold is a metal. Well, wood is not a metal. So, anything that's not a metal is possible. Wood is not a metal. Boom. Go. So, why does the other one say that you could learn it out of the cl the same cloud without the cloud? He says wood is okay because we're not learning the that it has to be like a metal. We're learning the has to be like gold that it's super important. It's a it's a very expensive material. It's an important material that kings use. Kings do not use everywhere. So use something important like gold. So it includes all metals [clears throat] and who argue they're arguing how to learn the prop show you real quickly. The says doesn't say what how. So it includes every type of man in the world. We have over here glass, earnware, wood, gold, silver, everything, copper. But then the narrows it down to zed gold here. Here's the golden one. It comes to exclude all the other metals. But then the everything else in the world, but the mix the includes. So we have to take one off. What type off? So what are we going to take off? As you see, so it comes in the in the red box. It excludes things that are not metals. All those glass, wood, things that are not metal. And the other one says, "No, you learned it wrong. It has to be similar to gold." Yes, but a different way. It has to be something like silver. Silver is also, so you can make it out of silver. I've called, but not wood. I don't like yours. You're saying that according to wood is no good. I say old's wood is good. And that's one of the iss that say wood is good. Here you made out of wood. It's kosher. What are you telling me? Says it's pos. Oh, so this is slightly different. Not that they're arguing how to do the clopraat, but they're arguing is it clopatra or is it ribbou? Because if you do rebuild, then you only exclude one thing. And what are you gonna exclude? So wood would be good. >> What would be good? Yes, >> wood would be good. We had this. When you have a cloud, it says you have to basically have to do something similar to the exclusion to the to the gold. It's a metal. This comes to exclude wood. Wood is possible. No, but if you only going to exclude one material from the world, any just one material in the entire world. So now we're doing the same thing over again. We're doing the same words. Instead of putting the word, we're going to put the word reeb instead of is called. What is that called? And what you included everything and what are you including? Rabbi call everything. And what are you going to exclude? Just one thing. Therefore, what wood is kosher for I don't like your price. I like my says that holds the wood is no good. No more you don't have gold. You should bring from silver wood is good. You should not make a house that looks like the like the You shouldn't make a yard the size of that make over there a smaller one. You let him make that you know the you cannot buy a candle library that has seven branches from them. They won't make it. They only make eight, six, 10, nine, not seven. You cannot make a that has seven branches even from other metals. Says you're not allowed to make it out of wood. Why? Because in the wood was kosher. So you're not allowed to make it out of wood. Oh hold that is kosher. So there are those who say by the way that you're not allowed to make any kale any size. So the you're not allowed to make any size because there's no size to the [clears throat] it doesn't say in the how how large it must be. So if you make a small also they argue no they they used they used metal and then they they covered it with tin later on they made it out of silver later on. Go measure yourself tell me later. Look how beautiful he did in one night. One the same night during Shir. Unbelievable. Take a look at this. The base is threeim. On top of that, we got twoim. On top of that, we have uh it's one. On top of that, it's blank. Top of that, you have a what is that called? A kaftar. Then it's salad. On top of that, a kaftar. Top of that solid top of that two twoim and all these and theim and everything equals three. Now there's a little bit of mistake that I have to tell him to fix but he's I don't know if he's up yet. He was up very late. The 18th fim do not include the the glasses or whatever you light the stuff on top. It's until See, he went a little bit too high on that. It should be lower. Okay, but that's the point. Beautiful job. Look what he did all in one a couple of hours. >> M is beautiful. Okay. It's a little se inside. The bottom part if I go back. Yeah, we can leave it like this. Okay. You see you can follow with me. The bottom part is three then two. Then there's one that has all three then solid two. Then you have one the each button was the two branches come out of both sides and they go to the height of the one solid piece and another button or ball. That's nine salad piece and then two salad. That's where you have the three. What are they similar to? Which are narrow on the bottom, wider on the top? Something similar to this. What are the buttons? The round. Some say it's a little off round, but what are the flowers? [clears throat] Like the flowers on the beams. So, we have it's 22. We're going to tomorrow, I guess. Oh, we only we only we only started 52 minutes ago. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, then we could go we can finish up. Let's finish up. We're a little late for but not late for this year. So, sorry. There's 22 cups. There's 11 round circles, buttons. and nine flowers. If you're missing one of the 22, no good. Same thing with the buttons. Same thing with the flowers. If you if you have you're missing all you have everything besides the everything besides the goes in. How do we know this 22? The had four cups on the front on the solid on the center piece. So let's do the math. If each each one on top had three, three beckers * 6 is 3 * 6 18 plus the four on the center one is 22. 18 + 4 we get to 11 buttons. You have six captor on >> on the column. Let's see where they are. We have here on the top. So we have a caft perak and a and a ga all on top. So that's six plus trad and two on the actual uh the center >> the stem plus vapa as as they come out here these three right over here you have three over here you have one down here you have one over here that's a total of 5 + Six. Yeah. You with me? >> Where do we get nine? Nine flowers. So we have two on the stem. So we have six plus two is eight. Where did you get to nine? In other words, we're missing this one on the bottom. Right over here. That one right there. Where do you get that from? There's another pos that tells you there's a tells us there's a ninth one. Raoai have a wonderful day. [music] >> Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a shir today. mdysponsor.com or sponsor atmop.com.