CHAZARAH - Menachos Daf 21 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] Good morning. So we have a here whether or not wood is a carbon not a carbon. What else do you put salt on wood? Do you put salt on blood? So it says like this. So here we have a mandar we have a that says that these four things don't have salt that's different than what we learned yesterday we said needs salty we said need salt let's see who does this go according to cashim says on wood if you bring wood carbon it requires salty [snorts] we saw that hold that in when you bring you you put salt today we're going to on B where exactly they put the salt on it's very interesting where what do you think where would you put salt on every day you have to do bring the to the according to you need to put salt on says who who does this go according to so let me just remind you we're just we're not going to discuss this a lot so even if you do there's no such thing as trauma for anymore more. But let's say you're new. So the Tyra says that on a carbon you should put salt. Now carbon can mean all these items that you see over here. It can mean it can mean a bird. It could mean flour. It could be meat. It could be wood. It can be all all sorts of things. But then the says no the carbon is a so we just knocked everything out. If we stop right over there then the only carbon that would require salt would be a ma. But the gumar has told us that we can we keep on going. The pics says I'll call. So you have a sandwich. You have a cl in the beginning cl at the end which is a general carbon all carbonus and then you have a pratt. You have the middle. So the prat comes to teach us that has to be car yeah carbon any carbon but a carbon that's similar to the prat which is a. So now the is going to go one step further just for a minute. If what's what's the prat that we're talking about the the middle thing is the mil is why anything that's a food item could accept tum you could be if a sher touches it it's susceptible to to that person certainly touches even a dead person a person has stomach so you put it on a fire you burn it This is the outer misbeh. So it has to be something that goes only on the outer and goes on the fire. So what is that? What does it come to exclude him? This mandar holds that wood does not require salt. Why? Because it's not. It's just a piece of wood. A piece of wood is not unless you fashion into some sort of vessel. But it's just a a piece of a a piece of wood. It's firewood. From here, I know the other two items in there. We have four items that we're looking for that the Bryson says. There's wood, blood, and what's the third one? The fourth one. >> Wine. Why is it that wine and blood don't require salt chain? You don't put them on the fire. You put blood on the wall. You put wine on them by the right over here. This, you can't probably won't be able to see it on the video. Right over there's two holes. Two >> drainage. >> Two well like drains. They have like a little cup on the top. I don't think we have it here. Let me see. Maybe we threw it in. No, but the point is they put it on. You don't put it on the fire. And why is not one of these? Goes on the inside. There's a golden. You put the every day and therefore it doesn't require salt because it's not similar to the for the fact that yes, you burn it. Yes, it's but it doesn't go on the outside. It goes on the inside. doesn't require salt. So what do we have until now? We have whether or not wood requires salt. We saw Rebe holds wood is a real carbon like Yoshi did. You bring a carbon of wood. Wood requires wood to burn it. You take the wood, you put on top of other wood, the burning wood. You take salt, you sprinkle it on. These are they never dreamed of thinking. First of all, we didn't know that you could bring wood as a carba. And then if you bring wood as a carbon, you sprinkle salt on it. Yes, we learned that you could bring levina as a carbon. Okay. So continuing now we have another nice sug now about blood. And here I asked the question before she as we started what how could you drink blood regular blood that you wouldn't be over cars? Maybe you're not allowed to drink it like that. Probably not. But you're not over the cars the big cars. We had this whole word that tells us that blood doesn't get salted. I think you salt the blood. But how could you salt blood? Once you salt blood, you ruin the blood. And once you ruin the blood, you can't you can't use it as a capari. You can't sprinkle on him as it's ruined blood. If you take blood and you cook it, you're not the the chorus. Cooked blood. You hear this? So here's a way out. You should have answered had you known him that cooked. There's another way. There's another way. If you add salt to it, you're not says Rashi right over here. And he says it here. It's just underlined. Says Rashi, when you add salt to blood, it's like as if you cooked as if you boiled it. And when you boil it, it loses its properties of blood. And therefore, it's not royal. It's not something you could spray on on this. So why do I need a puzz to tell me that you shouldn't put salt in the blood? When you add salt, >> you ruin it. another side to us, but we're going to finish it off. When you have any limbs of the animal that you put on the grill first before you put you're supposed to put the the meat of the carbon directly on the fire on the MV without ever grilling it. But when you grill it and you do that first that ruins it because the the the aroma comes out of it at that point. M say oh so the cash is like this. Why do you need a pul to say that you don't put salt in blood? Bloody a salt blood that has salt is not good blood. You can't throw it in. You can't even drink it any curus. So why do you need a special positive to say you shouldn't put salt in the blood? It's obvious you can't put salt salt in blood. The rabb even says that to be the mitzvah of salting you can put one granular or whatever it's called one grain of salt one grain of salt to be that's okay so you put more the bottom of the themed we're going to say how much salt but if you put a little bit in then you didn't ruin it it's still available for the so I would think that you should salt the blood very little just to be not do put in a way that it's still to sprinkle on that if you eat that blood you're but at the same time you're to the mitzvah of salting by putting a little tiny bit I would think that and that's why I need a to say that you shouldn't even put a little bit we just learned we just learned if you if you cook up the blood you boil the blood then you're not and says this over So what's the Rashi says? He says it's from the this week's parish. It means that it boiled up that the blood is congealed. It's like a it's like a solid form. Gala. Gala. Mameish. Gala. Here. I'll show you a little bit of video. It's really It belongs here. This is stuff. Would have a t for this. Not. Oh. Oh. This is for the gar later. So, we're not going to show it later. Basically, the gar says later he could take it. Vinan. It's like mamish thick. You could put it. I don't know what the background noise was. There's a cricket shot. Okay, it's a glitch in AI. This is a bigger. The Torah says that you shouldn't eat. You shouldn't eat fat. So what if you liquefy the fat? You you boiled it up and it became like a liquid. Maybe that's not what the Torah says. The says you shouldn't eat, but you drink it with a straw. is still upon it says that if you boil up blood you're so why are you telling me that if you boil up blood you're potter says boil up blood potter and here he says that you boiled it up and you then you ate it up then you then you ate it you're still kind says there's different ways to to heat it up if you heat it up with fire. It'll never go back to where it was. If you heat it up in the in the sun, then it would, as the explains right away, never goes back to original consistency. You're right. Right now, you can't eat it. It's not drinkable. It's it's it's congeal, but you wait a few hours or go back to its original form. We have a concept in in in especially that once something is pushed off, it's pushed off forever. If this blood is not available for the misbath of 2 three hours in the afternoon, then it can never be available. So you're going to wait until it it um liquefies again goes back to its original form. It's too late. Right now you can't use it. So right now it's never it's never good blood. It'll never become good again. Somebody blood that congealed and you ate it. What's that? Listen to this. Even though in two hours from now it's going to be liquid again. Right now you ate it as didn't know what to say. >> No is a that once it's pushed off it's pushed off. Why did Rabb say that there's a difference between if it became boiled in the sun or boiled on a on an oven that boiled in the sun it's going to go back eventually it's going to go back to its form but it's too bad when it comes to kachum let's say you have a a misbeh that's missing a chunk of it right we saw one little chunk you can't bring a carbon then the guy comes repairs it too late the carbon is garbage why cuz once you couldn't put it on the mak for one minute even if you repaired the misbeh between they take it out. >> Yeah. No, I have it. But okay, we'll read it. All right. It doesn't make sense. The word is going to explain in a second. Here's the explanation. talking about the difference between blood they put on the outer and the inner if it's blood from the outer that means a regular you bring all year long and you eat it even though it's congealed your why like we saw in this video right over here it's you could grab it it's not Sprayable. What? >> Sprinkable. >> It's not sprinkable. >> It's not sprinkable, but it doesn't have to be sprinkable because the Torah says, you take it and you put it. >> It's not fluid. The Torah says you should take it and put it. You could actually take it like you take a brick and you take a piece of uh bread, you take a piece of blood and you put it on the however if it congealed with the inner like or let's say the inner ones that go on this and then you eat that. That's the difference between the inner and the outer. Why? Because this is it has to be fluid. It has to be liquid. But you have to be able to sprinkle. You can't dunk your finger in and then spray it. However, there's no difference between inner and outer connect since this type of blood is and the outer one. So then the inner one is the same. You have to learn blood from blood. You take a donkey blood which obviously you can't bring a donkey as a as a carbon in the B mdash and it congealed and you ate it. Why? because of the since it it's available in the outer so and and as a congealed form it's so too congealed form of a donkey blood it's the ass on the spot here on the side he says I don't understand it's a says that donkey blood is like why do you have to say based on becomes okay So when you jump in a mikvah, this is like not good for a mikvah. This picture right over here. >> Yeah. There's certain things that are on your body, they they cause a barrier into position, whatever the word is the the between the art scroll and and MDY. That would be not good. Those wearing clothing. So says dam if it's blood on your hand it happens sometimes you have a wound you're bleeding on your hand and blood comes onto your hand so if it's dried blood then that would be a real but what about if it's liquid still it's still it's still moist still considered a question it says blood and honey and milk if if they're dried up that's a real Oh, that's what it was. This is I guess this is I didn't realize this is honey. This one. How do you do? Go back. Go back. No, doesn't want to go back. We go over here and then we'll go over here. No. >> Wow. It's stuck. >> So, what goes into the bread? >> Oh, here we go. I guess this is honey. >> This would be dried up. Now I get it. It says that if it is moist, there's no Why did say that? And if it's moist like cashew, there's a difference. If it's sticky or not sticky, says Rashi sticky. If you touch it, you pull your finger away, there's like a little string that come that that's sticky. You know that little sticky string. So if it's sticky, that's a not sticky, then it's literally like just it's like water almost. So it's not a real. Next [clears throat] we had this remind says three times. It also says it's like a double. What does it come to tell us? Look at this. How much salt? Say how much salt. So the word, we're going to try to understand what it means. But in general it means a lot of salt. I think you got to how do you say it in English? Like pack it on. Um >> pile it on. Okay. Pile it on. Pile it on. You got to pile it on. >> No. Pile it on. How long you're like some one of these that they say like in in a restaurant like like give a lot like a pile it up. It says no no not that much. Just salt it. Maybe do salt water which is really diluted. >> [clears throat] >> Oh, and it says you should bring salt that never rests. What does that mean? This is salt that comes off the ocean, especially in Yama and and it it it never rests. Seven days a week, it's bringing the salt the the water goes onto the shore. [clears throat] Uh it evaporates and then it leaves the the salt piles up over there. He says it's very thin. It's dark. Okay. Versus salt that you have to mine. If you have to mind the salt, what is this? What's going on here? Okay. There's some sort of thing. Maybe this is salt that comes out of the ground. They have to mine. And that's not You learn from the word that any type of salt even if you import it from another country from it says rash you're allowed to use it even on chabas and this is difficult for the what issue is there to salt something on chabas now we know there's a of salting hides on chabas that's ib but there's no isert to to salt Food food is definitely no is or bish with salt and chabas. So the rash says perhaps it's talking about the the is not food. the is is goes on and to salt that might be an issue but they discuss it even if the salt and this is a I don't know a lot of people in the room if I would ask people in the room can salt become the answer is yes it's a food item it can become tom what what's the Maybe you should pile it on. That's the we used before. If if the the word is of so it says you should put the in there. It's not the word means to build like a building. The word it should say you should build not pile it on. That's what he's saying. Pile it up. Bunch of piles of salt. Put a little flavor like like uh like understanding like bino. So there's a little bit of a issue here between the art scroll and mdy gimbara. The art scroll says to means a little salt like a little bit and he decided that means a lot and both I saw the actually says a lot and he brings according to the it's a little according to this it's a lot seems like from Tes on the spot that it's a lot because says you have to like rinse it off. Now rinse it off means that there's a lot of salt. Okay. So between the official edition and [laughter] you don't need a lot. You put how you do it. Maybe you bring one limb. Yeah. You bring one of the limbs. You put salt on it. Then you flip it over and you put salt on again and then you're good. And then if you want to eat meat today, that's what you do. You don't just put salt on one side. Put salt on both sides. So here's the thing. Salt on top of the If it looks like, let's see if I have a Oh, here. If I use this salt on the ramp, am I do I have to bring a carbon? Yes. If the salt is on a limb of an animal and I use the the salt right off the limb, let's do something else. Forget that. I put salt on a limb and it fell off the limb. I'm done salting. Done. You know how it is. Salt doesn't stay. Some of it falls. So, some of it fell onto the m and I use it now to to to salt my driveway for snow. Not over. Not over. Why? Cuz I already did the I'm not. Hold on a second. Not. But if the salt is on the animal, it's a big I'm done. I'm done. I I was Why am I for that? I need a ple if it's on the limb. But if it fell off my animal and it landed on the ramp says it fell off the animal. It's on the top of there's no I see this. This is referring to in the future this salt is considered when it's still on the animal. It's an that's why it's also to be even though I'm done with my mitzvah not awesome that a is permitted to use the salt of the mikdash and the wood of the mikdash and we have to understand what is it talking about for what? for his own sandwich, for his own purpose, when he's eating. What's going on? When the brings his own, if he brings a sandwich, not. Let me ask you a question. Are you allowed to bring a bottle of ketchup from home into the B mikdash? Typically speaking, you're not allowed to bring into the B mikdash. So, it's awesome. What about ketchup? I want to use my I want to eat my steak with barbecue sauce with ketchup. Whatever I eat my steak with, am I allowed to bring it in? So, we have says you're allowed to say you're not allowed. So, it's to us over here because we're talking about salt. We're talking about food that comes from the outside as we thought. Maybe it means to salt your own means. They're not allowed to eat the steak of the kachchim with the salt of the bdash. You can't use the bam mikdash spices for their steak which is kachum and they're only allowed to eat in the b. They have to eat it. They have to eat it like really um bland without any without any spices. How could that be? on the they get the hides from the mdash and we give them we give them the right amount of salt to process the hides to tan the hides but to give a little salt for the steak not there's three piles of salt in the the place of the salt there's a a room just chamber of salt here we even have a picture here it is right over There salt chamber that we saw already on the ramp itself. There was a pile of salt. Can't find it now, but the gar throw it in there. >> Amy, I mean, yeah, this one is what? Why do you need three piles? It says that the gets the salt and it's his own private hides. We give him salt for his own private consumption. What do you need salt on top of the ramp? All the limbs of the animals. Why on top of this? So this is super interesting. Where do you salt? Where do you put the tires on this? Where do you salt the tires? Over here. Why? So for that place it says it says I understand first of all the salt over here on the ramp. Why do you have to go all the way here? Go on the ramp, come back down and go to the So says over here this dirty dirty salt. I want nice pure white salt and that I can find only on top of the over here have to be salted on top. Great. So the question is why can't they use the salt for their own stakes? No, they could use salt for the steaks that they get off the carbonas. Every day we have we know that you have to eat the carbon pes when you're when you're satiated when you're not when you're not starving. It's not appropriate to sit down for after you you're like intermittent fasting and you like after a fast you know like a mishabove. You come sit down. You don't eat like that. That's not how you eat a carbon. You eat a carbon like a king. So mainly you have to make sure that you're not hungry. So you eat like a little bit of food before. So it's over here. You have to you have to understand you're not allowed to bring a sandwich into the m that's also ketchup you're according to because the ketchup goes onto your carba. But your sandwich has nothing to do with your carba. It it's that you should be full before you eat a carbon. So sandwich you can't bring into the bish. So obviously his sandwich is outside of the had a special locker there for sandwiches and he went outside and ate it. Now yeah, can I use the the salt for that sandwich? You cannot use the salt for your sandwich from home. The truth is we could stop right over here. Have a wonderful day. Give me your pencil, please. Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today. mdysponsor.com [music] or sponsor at mdy dot.com.