CHAZARAH - Menachos Daf 13 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

live from a hotel room in Connecticut. We're holding by a brand new mission. Try to do a quicker shear than usual. We're talking about people. We're talking about a person who as he's doing the he has a a thought that could ruin or not ruin in some cases this his thought let's talk about this this is the large amount of flour this is what's left over after the puts his hand in takes three fingers worth puts it in a let's say he puts it right over here small amount flour this goes on the this over Here, see the two amounts. The small amount is the kita. Goes on this back. The large amount is the shim. If I had a nice pen, I couldn't find one. Goes up. Let's write shir over here. Nice big letters. So, the guy says, I'm going to take if if he said, I'm going to take a full kaz of this and eat it. Make a bread out of it. Make a donut out of it tomorrow. That's full-fledged pagle. You ruined the why? Because he said, "Tomorrow you're only allowed to eat it today." And it's the full amount, the full kaz. And if he says, "I'm going to take this a full kaz of this and put this where do I put on the mbah? I'm not going to eat it. It's not it's not for human consumption. This goes on the it's a certain eating of the misb eats it. It consumes it. There's an of the what happens if he says I'm going to take a half a of what's supposed to go on the not a full and a half of what I'm supposed to be eating a donut. I'm going to make a half a donut together. I have a whole why is it? You're right. I have a total of one. But since there are two types of eating, one is a human consumption and it's only half a it's half. The other one is consumption. It's half. They don't combine together. They're not. It says in the half to eat and to put you could infer and be that this doesn't work. But what does work? If it's a half a of a half of to eat, what if I said instead of saying I'm going to put half a on this of this, I'm actually going to use it for my donut. I'm going to consume it physically like a human being consumes. Now, it's not really meant for human consumption. It's meant for his bath consumption. But I'm gonna use that half a kazay from the and combine it with the half a of the and together have a whole kazayas and from the Mishna that that would be a good piggle. It's only not a pigle the top two but the bottom two you could infer that it is otherwise the mission would have said it is going to say what you're saying is beautiful. It's a great inference and it's a good deal. But let's something else. So let's see inside. But if I'm going to eat the as food, then it would combine to make a full and make that it's not if you look at the says you're right. We have a little bit of mantana. Who's our that says that to take a that of something that's supposed to go on the and actually eat it as a donut, it would combine with another that you're allowed to eat the and make it a full to make it legal. Who's that? That's the It doesn't matter if it's meant for consumption. A human being can consume it. Doesn't matter if it's a human being consumption can consume it. You could combine the two. As we learned in the That's what we're talking about. So that's not the to eat or it's I'm sorry. Yeah. to take the and put it on is also not something that is that that's done but you did it and what is over here we could see this if a person says I'm going to do pigle of I'm sorry and a or reverse aaz he starts off saying I'm going to do one I'm going to eat it tomorrow which is and I'm going to do also and then it says you're going to take a half two halves of one half of is one half is combining the It doesn't matter how you started off, which one started first. So we already have this why I need it twice. If I'm going to tell you that I'm taking something that's edible and something that's not the way to eat it. In other words, it go it fits on the but I put it together. I would say that it's that I can't say. Why? because I already learned that it's now we skip these two lines and if I'm going to tell you that something that's like our something that's for for human consumption something that's from put together are then I keep him dying from If you if I if I want to take two things to eat a half a of something that's edible and something that's not edible, they don't combine. So certainly if it's something that's to eat and something that I want to put it on, they shouldn't combine. If I want to eat the two of them, eat, consume it. But one is edible and one is not edible. They don't combine. So certainly if I don't want to consume it, I just want to half of it I want to consume and the other half I want to put in his back. How could it combine? Says no there's more as far as to say that does combine. Why I do need that case if you do something unnatural. In other words, I'm taking something like this bag. This is the belongs and I said I'm going to eat it. That's not a natural thing. That's against so okay no that's why it's not that's why it doesn't make sense that it combined but when I did the right thing this I said half of his eyes from here that which is edible I'm going to eat and half his eyes from here which goes on and said I'm going to put on this. So I'm doing the right thing. Maybe it should combine that, but it's not says the first Mishna of the second parrot. This is a classic case of he does and he says, "I'm going to eat the leftovers tomorrow. Or he says, "I'm going to take the and I'm going to put it on the tomorrow." It's two types of consumptions of eating. Everybody agrees that that's you ruined it. It's actually you get for it. Now the question that the is going to ask is why would I say that doesn't say that? Because continues and he says on this he does argue as we're going to see there's two parts that go onto them they have to burn part number one is this baggie part number two is in the Amazon bag the frankincense must go on the misb as we're going to see they're both very essential to gobb and they both comprise 50% of what goes on so if a person has a mind that he's going to burn the leava the frankincense tomorrow. That's also just like when he thinks that he's going to burn this flower tomorrow. We have say listen is just like the flower. What's the difference? And if you have a thought about the lev that you're going to eat it or you're going to consume the is going to consume it not that you're going to eat it but the is going to consume it tomorrow which is not the right time. It's after the allotted time. The lot of time is up to today you have to put it on not tomorrow. say if you think that and then you go ahead and you eat the the cars and says no no no that applies to the only to the flower but not to the you're right if you think that you're going to ruin the carba but you're not going to get cars for it that Hashem chops down a person's life short that's reserved only for the flower and they try to prove it to him you're probably thinking that the is separate of the flower. But guess what? The leva is very similar to the imm parts that we put onto the misbeh. And yet, if you think in your mind, well, as you're doing, you're going to put those parts the imam, you should have put the picture of imam here. You thought to yourself, they're going to put those parts onto this tomorrow. That's real people cars for that. So, how come how come is different? Answers very nicely. Look, they all come from the same animal. The kidneys, where do they come from? They come from from a different they come from this animal. But when you referring to the frankincense, that's a different that comes in a different bag. That comes from Amazon, from a different place. Says What is the point of the beginning of the mishna? We all know what pig is already is when a person has a thought that he's going to eat consume this part of the tomorrow. So what's the point of you telling me oh he also agrees to it. There's no one in the world that disagrees with that says tomorrow in the second part of the says but if you thought about putting the frankincense on tomorrow there's no says there is no now we're going to have a beautiful piece it's not a it's not a complicated piece at all a very simple piece Think about it. When can the cayenne benefit from this flower and eat this flower? Make give it to make donuts out of this. When only when this goes onto the m when this goes onto the fire at that moment this becomes. So this becomes a m it allows you this flower allows you to eat this. But wait a minute. There's one more thing that it must go on. It's called Levino. You see this bag that I just got from Amazon? This this this bag right over here in my hand full of these beautiful crystal yellow pieces of leavo. This also must go onto the misb. So these two, you see these two bags, they must go on the misb. If I only put one bag, so I got 50% of the mat. I put another bag, I got the 100% of the matter. Each one is 50%. Oh, so says I would think the whole that I cannot do peel with only half. The flower represents 50% of what allows me to eat the it's a half of the pigle. It's a half of the m sorry half of the m. So maybe you cannot do pigle on a half on 50%. You could do pigle 100%. If you think while you're doing the flower, you think to yourself, I am going to eat this uh I'm going to put this flour onto tomorrow. That's enough to be at the same time. I don't think that that applies even in the case of flower I do and I'm thinking to myself that I'm going to put this on the tomorrow. I think oh but putting this on tomorrow is only 50% of the matter so it shouldn't be pigle. Oh, it is pigle. He says, "No, it's a full pigle for everything." If a person says, "We have he takes, you see this bag of I'm holding in my hand from said listen to this. When I am holding this, I'm doing kima. I cannot think. I don't have the right to think about the levina going on tomorrow. And when I'm doing levina, I don't have the right to think about my flower. One has nothing to do with the other. I can have I cannot have bad thoughts about another thing. Maybe is when you have a certain amount of flour and a certain amount of frankincense. So, one can't the other because they're different. Oh, here it is. When you have two spoonfuls of fragrances like on the same I would say that perhaps they should be that they're not even if it's the same men. So the the says over here I think it's his yard. I didn't have a chance to check. Somebody told me yesterday that it's his yard side. I don't know. That's what he said. It's right around his yard. I know it's right around here, but I I thought it was a very nice that he says, "Why would I think that the two different the two spoonfuls of frankincense that are that we have with upon him? Why would I think that one has the the ability to to if it's not in the same as we're going to see soon, it has to be one cle but I'm saying it over here because now this is where we we said it. He has a that maybe is considered one vessel. Why would two spoons be one? Because they're both sitting on one. The grabs them and makes them one if I understood him correctly. Are you able to tell me? Are you able to look me in the eye and tell me that is not talking about because it's one it's one item versus two in the why is and and flower different than a skirt steak and the rest of an animal. So what does he answer them? What do you mean the skirt steak and the and the kidneys come from that same animal? Well, fragrances is not the same item as the flowers. You see that he is talking about it being one and two different things. You didn't understand he's not referring to whether it's one or two items. He's saying that one doesn't prevent the other one from happening. What does that mean? It's not like the way it works is if I want to eat the leftover, I have to put the on the misb. As long as I don't put this on the mah, I cannot eat this. So, one prevents the other. But that's not the case with leva frankincense. In other words, I could put the fragrances on the even though I didn't put the on the and I could put the on the even though the fragrances is not on. In other words, one does not prevent the other from happening. It's not similar to the kam that you can't eat the as long as the kam is not in his as long as they don't put the he can't eat the I would think that the can prevent the but no whichever one of the two I want to put on his back first whether it's the frankincense first or the flower first I can put on first So we know you're supposed to bring two breads, two breads and two sheep, two each schlamim can you cannot be from one to the other. In other words, if I have if I'm shinglim number one on the right and I think to myself that number two on the left, I'm going to eat that one in three days from now. That's not why because A has nothing to do with B. Why does A have nothing to do with B? Because they're not they were never put together in one vessel. But when you put the two things together on vessel like so you have the levino you see the lev on the left those those little rock looking things I have the leav together on top of the flower on top of the dough so they were both in the same vessel then it should be as if It's one great. Take a look at this. Doing so, removing the the from the large bowl and putting it on the misbeh. If he does it, if moves it from vessel A to vessel B, you have to start all over. It's possible. You can't add another amount of and let let the kind do it. It's too late. Once he did it, it's possible. Why? It's because this is like walking. Cuz walking without your feet with your hands is also walking. In other words, when I take the lev from right over here and I move it to right over here, I just walk. Not with my feet, with my hand. I just moved it from area A to area B. You saw that's what he did over here as well. Not this one. This one. He's moving it from the left of the screen to the right of the screen. That's walking. I moved it closer to the misb. Now it's easier and closer to get to the misb. So I moved it. Now sometimes you move something with your feet. You move it with your hand. You have to hold the moving without your feet is also considered a walking. And therefore walking is one of the four avoidas. What are the four avidas? walking to the and being. So you just the Israel just did one of the four and that makes it possible. We also learned here are the four. So let's it's the Gar is going to say all four right now. This is the if you have a of while you do or putting into the vessel and doing and being as you can see in this chart on the right has resembles and the third one to bring it towards the no you bring it towards it's exact and throwing the the carbon onto the fire the onto the fire. It's similar to throwing the blood onto the butting the number two from the right the purple putting the into a vessel. Why is that similar to blood? Because you can say it's similar. It's not similar at all. Blood goes squirting out of the carbon's neck. All you need to do is put a vessel there and it fills it up with and the vessel fills up by itself. But over here you physically have to take the kit and put it in. So it's very different. you must do this and if you don't do this how are you gonna get it to the to the so since you have to put it in a vessel to get so it's considered a significant and therefore you could be during that so it's similar to if you don't gather it so you won't be able to bring it to them So therefore becomes it's an important so therefore I make it as if it's no it is similar to it's similar to what was the question we have but happens by itself you don't have to put the blood into the vessel squirts out by itself or you have to put the the into the vessel No, at the end of the day, let's look at it differently. You have a gusha the cle it's a kishar it's this golden vessel has inherent and therefore what therefore it's the the that infuses into the so who cares if it happened by itself or I'm sorry yeah who cares if the blood went in by itself or that you put it in the the bottom line is what happens afterwards what's Once it's in the clay, it becomes a good shabas. 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