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CHAZARAH - Menachos Daf 11 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky
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Good morning.
Okay.
So it says in the
he does he puts his hand into the flower
and all a sudden he notices inside
like a a stone
a piece of salt
a piece of levino.
Just to show you because we're going to
be talking about this levina at the end
of the suga here. One piece like this.
One piece of Levina. Levina comes in
pieces. One piece. That's the
I need three cases of something. You the
list could go on and on. A piece of
wood, a piece of glass,
a piece from the moon. Like what's the
point of three cases? Says
we're 10 into.
just going to get easier and easier and
more and more fun.
If we say a stone
stones don't go on the you can't put on
the
it's in fact it's
saying something small and then we build
on it and then we say another
we know that every carbon you have to
pour a bunch of melan even in you pour
the mel on it you salt the it's
something that's available to them
so I would say that salt is I would
think that you could put it on a little
salt inside the not a big deal. It is a
big deal. It's possible
and it would say those two things a
stone
because it's not of the to begin with
is part of the
you put the levine on top. So I would
think
that it's part of it. It became it was
part of it. It's part of the so you
found it later on in the it's not a big
deal. I think it's also possible. Okay.
So you have three things that are
possible.
Next part of the
why is it a problem? Because think about
it. This amount these three fingers
amount of flour is your carbon. That's
what you put on the
But you don't have three fingers worth.
You have three fingers minus this stone.
So therefore it's possible or it's a
little
it is the point is it's not a
why you tell me because it's more it's
less.
When this stone is smack in the middle
of the flower you have a stone in there.
says the Gmorra that the the stone is
over here
right over there.
Now what's interesting is why is it
called minatad?
It's really milalo. It's over here. Says
rashi it's not lamalo. Oh you guys
didn't see it. Here we go. The stones
this way. See? Cuz what happens is when
you take your hand out, you immediately
turn it sideways 90°?
So that the flower doesn't start coming
out of the bottom like this. If I would
leave it like this, it' come out. You
see?
So you turn your hand. Now it's
sideways. It's on. So what's the point?
It's on the top means it's inside. If it
was in here somewhere, that's between
the flower and my hand. You have a
stone, but the stone is all the way in
the top of everything. It's from the two
holes either from the pinky or from the
thumb area. But that's
okay.
We go.
We're going to be using this a lot
today.
10 lines down.
How do you do?
This is exactly how people do it. If I
told you,
if I told you to take a handful of
flour, what would you do? So you go like
everybody, normal people, they go like
this and they grab a handful of flour.
How many fingers did I just use, Rabbi
Isai?
Five. How many are you supposed to use?
So ask the
it doesn't make sense what you just
said. The gumar goes through all the
names of the fingers. Zuzeres, the pinky
zuk.
So this finger next to the pinky is
called kamita. You ever wonder why it's
called kamita? Because that's what you
do kamita with. It's the last finger of
the kamita.
So, I got to go this way. Hold on.
Mark, if you want, just put that picture
up with the fingers.
No. No.
Go to the list of all the things. No.
Yeah, that's better.
More. More. There.
Very good.
Okay. So here you have the five fingers.
The pinky is called zeris. The one next
to the pinky is called kamo. The next
one is amma. Next one is next one is
audo.
So says rashi. Each one does something
in the
zeres. The p the pinky is how you
measure the
the kit
is the finger next to it and that's what
you do kit with. Amma is the middle one.
So if you measure from the top the tip
of the the middle one to your elbow is
how much? And amma by a lot of people
mine and Ellie Dykins are probably a
little different.
You want to do it? Let's measure it. No.
Okay.
And then you have spa. What do you do
with the spa? If you learn, what do you
do with the spa? Oh, Zero. Poor Zero.
And then you have Agood. What do we do
with Agul? We just learned yesterday.
Huh?
>> Malik. What else?
>> The who?
>> That's what you said.
>> You put the You put the You put the
blood on the on the thumb and you put
the oil on the thumb. Very good. So once
again kasha you all saw the kasha coming
when you stick your hand in and it's
says like people do kamita people stick
their hand in they go like this but it's
not true
it's even called kam because it stops
right there it's like this it's not like
this it's only three fingers not five
says
it's like we said kamita it's three
fingers but the the pinky and the thumb
are here to straighten it out. It has to
be perfect. It has it can't be too much.
It can't be too little. And we're going
to see soon.
So, what do you do?
You take your three fingers. You go all
the way to the palm down. Is this good?
Like this? No. Has to go all the way
down to the the bottom of the palm.
Oh, mvirats. Oh, what's mvirat? It's a
lot of fun playing over here. This is
mvat. You see how it pops out on the
top?
No good.
It has to be like this. Can't have bunch
of flour on the top like this.
It has to be inside the bit inside his
three fingers.
Maybe you should go like this. Mamesh
like nothing. By the way, it's hard for
me to go here, but I'm gonna do it
anyway.
Is right over there.
That's too much. And then
might be out of order.
You know, this is
No, I don't like that. No, not true. Not
good.
Oh, Ro's voice right over here. See?
Folding up his fingers like this.
O, how did the flower get over here?
That's not good.
I just blew it on the tablecloth. Not in
the
as we fall full. Okay. He said, "You
don't know. You don't know what's going
on here over here on my pants. Wow.
Okay, great. Like this.
When you have a very thick bread
or thin bread, you break it up into
pieces and then you do with those
pieces.
I don't know if they have a piece of
bread here or something. A piece of
cake.
They have
I'm going to try to I tried to do it
this morning in the Hebrew Shir. Nobody
was there with the bagel and it was a
murder. It's not It wasn't going well.
The point is that it's extremely tough
to chop down bread,
a tough bread like a cracker with your
thumb and certainly with your pinky. And
to make sure that it doesn't break too
much because it breaks too much then it
goes inside. It has to be even. They
have to cut it like a laser beam to the
top of your to the top of your fingers.
And says,
"This is the hardest thing to do in the
Bdash.
That's the only hard thing in the
mdash."
What's Malik? Let's show Malik.
I guess putting your thought
the besides is tough to do. You have to
have a certain personality
but you have to have a very strong
finger.
But there's also kafina. So what's
kafina? So he comes in with two things.
First, he has this pan. It's full of
coals.
And he has
this. It's
watch. If one drop falls into the pan,
it's all over. I'll show you how hard it
is. So, he goes like this. Like this.
This is one way to do it. There's
another way. I'll show you in a second.
Nothing could fall. Nothing.
Uhuh.
I'm out. But there's another way. Hold
on. I don't know if I could Let's turn
this. There's another way. He has to go
like this.
>> That's why all week long they're
practicing this. Okay. This is Yoshi's
way of doing it.
I like Yoshi's way better.
Very nice. So the kasha is what are you
telling me? This is the hardest thing in
the like that we have other things
just one of the many not many one of the
there's a few three four that are tough.
one of the four
like we just discussed to do
like people are doing.
Do I have to stop to share Mark?
It is
okay.
What happens if
his palm is facing down
like this
and he grabs a little bit with his the
tips of his fingers?
This is interesting. I don't know if I
could demonstrate so well, but he puts
his hand palm up, hand down, pushes
pushes hard into it, and somehow then
he's able to
grab some like this.
Instead of putting his palm in and
turning, it's palm up, pushes down,
down, down, and then he gets up. Oral
if he goes in like this straight in and
curls his fingers
instead of this way like a tractor does
he goes this the opposite way.
What's that take? We have to wait until
Msiah comes to know the answer for that
is referring to the says in the takes
which means two handfuls. So what's
normal for people to do? Two handfuls
is like this.
Yeah. I should be looking that way.
like this
is similar question that we had a second
ago.
That's how people do it.
Mau
his palm is facing down and he and he
scoops his eye with his fingers
or the opposite. He goes inwards this
way and he goes like this.
Let's say he did like this everybody say
one hand
and then he did the other hand and then
he put them together. Oh, now I have two
hands.
Okay, I think I could take these off. I
think I'm done for now.
Let me just make sure. I hope most of it
went on my pants and my gim and not on
the floor in the Bush.
Okay.
Wow.
It's kadai every
How did my jacket get so dirty?
Okay.
So says
more stuff.
Here we go.
If the is on the wall of the bowl,
what's
it need to be inside the cle? No, it's
inside the cle. It's great.
It has to be on the bottom
not in the but there has to be there has
to be a placement inside and you didn't
place it inside because it's on the
wall.
So I showed you already the bottom of
this has its own bowl. It's not meant to
put things in it. It's meant to to make
it to give it some height. So what
happens if you put it in there? Let's
see what it looks like.
Here we go. Here's the bowl upside down.
And what happens if you put the
inside that area?
You put it on the bottom of the of the
bowl of the
you need to put it inside a cle and you
put inside
has to be like normal fashion. Nobody
typically puts stuff in there
which we already discussed. He takes his
three fingers and puts it like this.
Remembers how much how much flour do we
put in a everybody? What do you say? One
is how much oil do we put in? One.
>> One log.
So what happens if he puts in more than
a log of oil? How much more? The is
going to say he puts in too much oil.
Too little oil.
Too little. It's possible. Says
what does it mean exactly?
He doubled up the oil instead of one lo
two that if it's half a lo more not a
problem it's because he doubled it up
maybe is he put an oil from his home
it's doesn't have that's why it's
possible or he used oil from another
and if you're going to tell me that's
not a
He asked a question.
We know of a sinner. Does it have any
oil? If you put an oil, it's possible.
What oil are we talking about? If it's
its own oil, it doesn't have its own
oil. If you put put an oil from your
home
or oil that belongs to another carbon,
another
harmlessly possible. You just told me
it's not a problem. It is possible.
You're right. Says
the reason why it's not here because
that's if you bring oil from your home
or you use oil from another it becomes
possible
is
sorry
each log by itself is another log that
could work. Each one by itself
individually could be the real oil for
this.
So I would think I would think each one
is the is to be the entire she for this
thing. It shouldn't be possible that it
is
but the bottom line is comes out from
this that if it's less than the whole
thing it's also a problem. We're trying
to say even a a large amount that's
enough for the whole thing is also
puzzle. But less
a half a lo on top of the regular L that
you already have is also po.
How do you know that oil that has to it
creates?
Because you had a problem with the
sh
say that there's too much of it oil with
a he at the end. It doesn't say it's too
much oil.
It's oil. What does it oil mean? That
it's for this
even though your mafish two fullan of
oil. Oh, here's a
if he doesn't have enough lev.
So says the
yeah it doesn't have enough it's
possible.
He started off with this amount of and
he's left in his hand one piece. It's
the sap that comes out of a tree. It's
like something that comes out of a tree.
It's hard like little stones, little
rocks that you know you could imagine
what it looks like. Comes out of the
bark. Yeah.
So if out of your whole amount of one
stone is left
says
two two pieces. What are we going to
call them? What what are these called?
So you says it's enough. It's good
because you have two two two fragments
pieces
>> granules.
No says one is enough.
If it's less than one, not good.
Says
seems like
it doesn't say, but Rashi seems to say
it is
a
entire
you have 99% 1% went bye-bye.
Yeah. 1% went bye-bye. What's
no good? It says over.
So again, we saw
one granule left, two pieces left. Okay,
either one or two. Over here we see
something very different. If 99% is
left, it's a lot more than one or two
pieces, 10 pieces. But you don't have
100%. What's that puzle? You need 100%.
from when you did the till the end says
you're right. If so, you have to say
no, you didn't read it right. Well, you
have to read or you have to put it in.
It's not if it's missing 1%. If it's
missing 1% of the one granle since one
piece is enough, if from that one piece
a part of that piece went missing, then
it's no good. But you don't need 99%.
You don't need 100% of the initial.
I don't know if you knew, maybe this is
the first time you're hearing this. You
could bring a
you could buy a bag on Amazon of
frankincense and bring one to the
I'm giving you a gift. Nothing to do
with flour. All Levina from beginning to
end. Oh, that if 1% goes missing of that
possible similar we have the same with
the if you're doing flour I'm not going
to stick my hand in if you're doing
flour and a little bit goes missing you
can't put it on the so too with the
when it comes with some of it goes
missing no it's not the end of the world
if it comes why because as long as you
have some left it's Okay,
we have three
holds. Whatever you did in the
beginning, that's what you need at the
end. We're talking about the
you did a whole handful of make sure
that's what you have at the end.
No, all you need at the end is two
pieces, two granulars, two
you need one. That's it.
They all learned it from one possible.
All the frankincense, all the put it on
top of the flower.
Whatever you did all the way in the
beginning, that's what you need all the
way at the end.
The word means
meaning even a little piece left is
enough.
Even one stickle less than one stickle
is not good. It doesn't mean a culture
like a a granular of salt
means one nice piece
a fragment ace now so that's one how did
he get to two because the word ace
comes to include a second one
since doesn't learn the word ace as a
second one so he's left with one so one
or two pieces and according to the
entire amount 100% of what you start out
with you need to have at the
This is if it comes together with flour
when it comes back on its own.
Whatever you start out with, that's what
you need to have all the way at the end.
That's why it says in the
that it comes on top of the
that anything that comes together with a
then you could have something going
missing. But if it comes on its own,
this is the carbon and even 1% went
missing. No good.
What's
show it again until it gets mish into
everybody's head. This is the choppy.
Why is it choppy?
Start again. Do it again.
These are the 12 upon him. But there's
also two bazik and two spoons, special
spoons that have inside it the levino,
the lev, the frankincense. This you burn
on chabas. And once you burn it, you're
allowed to eat upon him.
But the
you can't have anything missing. That's
like the like the
why is it so posit you have to
understand very simple because there's
no word that says
teaches us
means even a little be you don't have
that by by him. So maybe you have to
have the entire thing left
comes with bread.
So it's
like that goes with the regular goon is
like it's the same
different a little piece goes missing
from the lev
can't be mate. You can't eat the either.
But when it comes on its own, whatever
you did in the beginning, you have to do
at the end.
There's no difference between a goes
with a that goes by itself.
Um, let's just do this little over here.
It's also easy. We'll get to the
Yeah. Okay. It's fine.
says in the Mishna that if you're
missing a little bit of the frankincense
of the it's possible
the doesn't talk about adding what if
you add a little it's okay
if you add it's possible
you know when it's possible when you
double up you did two full handfuls of
that's no good if you did one piece more
that's not a problem
now we're going to say the same exact
all over again. And what's going to be?
What do you have to say? The same twice.
What's the same again?
Sorry. No. Before we get there,
if a person set aside two full handfuls,
two fullatim of Levo. This looks like a
guy in California. No. What's Yeah. Huh?
Hawaii. Hawaii. You're right. Hawaii.
What's up, dude?
Two is no good. Why is it no good?
Because you doubled up. What if one got
lost? You had a n one got lost. So,
depends when it got lost.
before you were able to do the kima on
the flower so it wasn't part of it and
one got lost now you're left with one
you're supposed to only have one so it's
fine but once you did
so those two guys became part of the two
is no good so it's possible
now we have the same exact identical
when it comes to the upon him how many
do We start off with two in two
two spoonfuls. So now we're going to do
the same thing. We're going to double it
up. So how many do we have now? Four.
He put aside four instead of two. So now
it became possible. It's double. And two
of them got lost. So depends
if it's before you remove the remove the
spoonfuls. So it's not it's not it's not
considered anything. It's not part of
the upon him. So it doesn't pass it
but still remove it.
Why do you need a second case? It's
identical to the first says
if you look look at these two guys.
They're standing there. They're waiting
to be taken. They're there. You know
exactly what the is.
Here's another mus that we didn't know.
What time of the day do you take the
these two spoonfuls of lev off the What
time of the day? Six hours. But that's
the the we said the other day. It's
after you bring the carbonf.
We had this we had this um this other
day. The time came the time of our mus
came. So and it's sitting there ready to
go. So it's as if you already took it
off.
The two extra guys are part of the why
because it's already came off but it
didn't come off. It almost came off.
It's just the time to take it off and
since you didn't really take it off the
it's only the time to take it off. So
those two guys are not ple they don't
pel the the the the bread and if they
get lost then we have the right amount
and therefore it's okay.
Raoai, have a wonderful day.
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