CHAZARAH - Menachos Daf 105 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] >> Good morning I ah We're holding a brand new parrot. That's good dollar on the base. I realize sorrow in your vehicle. This is no good at all. If a person uses a singular lotion I realize you saw him. I take upon myself to bring one you saw him. You have your hood you should bring one. If he says plural it's very nice you have your time. So there's a little bit more of a fetish. That he only brings two he doesn't bring more than two. Minimum of the plural is two and it's not more than two two. Pay attention. This case is going to be brought down twice in the mission. You rushed me. The any idea of my fetish. I set aside I said I'm going to bring a mincha. But I have no clue what I said. So unfortunately for him you'll be shishim is all right. The most the person can bring in one mincha is 60 is all right. So perhaps he said 60 is all right. We don't know. Now what if he said 59 not 60. How can you bring 60? 59 is the hive. One is in the dollar. One 59 is for his obligation. Let's say he said 30. 30 is his obligation. The other 30 is not his obligation and they're all in one cleat. So what do you do? You do the classic which is a tonight. You say Whatever if I if it was 30 so the 30 is my hive the rest I'm giving in a dollar. Whatever my hive is that's what I'm giving and whatever is in the cleat the leftover that will be you have to make a condition. Yes you have to specify I really like mincha. What if a person doesn't say what kind of mincha? So there are five classics. And you would bring one of these five. You'll be easy to share it so. You bring anyone you want. You don't want me you'll be mincha so it's no no no no no. One. There's the default. There's a default mincha. If you don't specify what so the default is a mincha so it's number one on the list. She him you had a shovel in office. That's the most special that's the default. So I really like review the mayor you'll be mincha mincha I mean I mean how come? So if a person says I really like mincha. How much is that? Mincha one. Or he says I really like mincha he doesn't say min A he says min. A type of which is one singular min is a singular how mincha singular? So here's the two cases. I really like min mincha. Min mincha is one. It's it's singular. Min mincha is is two. That's the next case. I really like mincha is or min mincha is mincha is plural. You have your time. That's in his lotion. His lotion is mincha is which means two so he brings two. >> [snorts] >> The gamara is just going to ask and actually make a whole thing out of it. What if he says minimal? I really like min A mincha. Min A seems like two. Mincha seems like one. It's a contradiction in his words so what do you do? What do you say? So how many? Two? Okay so we're going to go through the question explain it nicely. Try to learn from the first case try to learn from the second case. Try to learn from a different case. So let's see we'll see the gamara I'm just throwing it out here because we just said two cases. I'm throwing out the third case so you don't get all finished. Aleph and base is in the mission that we just read. Min mincha min mincha is simplest of the simple. >> [clears throat] >> You rushed me the any idea is a man fetish. I said I'm going to bring one of these five. I might have said a math class I might have said a math classes I've no clue what I said. You'll be coming soon. So unfortunately never to you you have to bring all five. Now this seems very very similar to the first case of the mission and it might be the same. We have a lesson in the mirror if it's different or not. You rushed me mincha is right in the any idea come and rush to I said it's going to be at least one you saw him maybe two you saw him maybe five. You'll be shishim is all right. So because I don't know what I said and the maximum is 60 I'll bring 60. I really like mayor. You'll be mincha is shall I swear noise I had that I had shishim. This is ready this is unbelievable. This guy messed up royally my mission messed up. Instead of him bringing three you saw him he has to bring a cleat that has one you saw him in it cuz he might have said one. He has to bring another cleat that has two. He has to bring another cleat that has three. And another cleat that has four five six 10. 31 another cleat has 52. Another cleat that has 59 and finally a cleat that has 60. So how do you do the math? Very very simple. We have 60 60. Our number is 60. So you take 60 divided in half that's 30. How much is 3 * 6 special people 18. So it's 30 * 60 is how much? 1800. But there's one you have to add the one. So it's 30 + 1 is another 30. So it's 1830. That's the number that's the number of you saw him that you need 1830. She done. So you got to on the on the first line of the mission a person says I really like you saw him a kid in kindergarten knows that it means one. She done. Says you might be right. It's right in the you'll be shishim it's it's the second case that's important and that's a little bit of a fetish. You don't have to she done that's also partial. Hard to understand exactly back and forth there meals you saw him shishim that's one way to read it that that is a fetish that not more than two. That the minimum of plural is two but not more than two. Okay. You rushed me my fetish you'll be shishim is all right. So just uh >> [snorts] >> Where did it here? You have case number one in the mission you rushed me the any idea of my fetish. I said I I said I'm going to bring a mincha I have no idea. So the mission says you'll be shishim is all right. And then look at this thing it says it again. You rushed me you'll be shishim is all right. You rushed me it's my mission same words you rushed me you should bring 60 my mission but over here you have I really like you mincha is right in you do one till 60 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 it's equals it's 1830. So what's the difference between the ration the safer? So you got to man tunnel. You rushed [snorts] me the like a rabbit. Oh I'm a fish kill the like a rabbit. The first the blue part on top you rushed me the any idea of my fetish and it's a just one sheet of you'll be it's not going according to ready. You ready I'm a fish kill the right in I had that shishim. Ready says for rich you should do 1 + 2 + 3. You'll be a kind of all my no no no no no it's different cases. I feel the same ready. The case is by you rushed me right in I have a like a vacuum the cleat. The first case is I said I'm going to bring a certain amount of flour but I never said in how many vessels. The Macy's sheet of mystery the sheet of money. So what you have to do is you bring 60 is all right but just in 60 calum. 60. So the you don't gain anything in terms of the vessels you have to put it in 60 packs. But only each pack gets one you saw him for a total of 60. Worst comes to worst what you said 39. So you take 39 bowls and you that's your that's your thing. You don't have to do in each bowl two and then the second bowl three and four and five you don't have to do that. Each bowl is just going to have one you saw him. Just make sure you you have 60 bowls and then you cover all your bases. My show ain't going in the in the safer we said it was a certain amount and each amount was by itself in a bowl. So if each amount is by itself in a bowl so now I have a it's possible 39 you saw him in one bowl. 52 you saw him in one bowl. Seven in one bowl. So now I have to go through one through 60. Every bowl a different amount. If I didn't say that the bowl is important then I could just bring one you saw him per bowl. That those are the two cases. I really like you mincha I'm sorry. Let's do this again. I feel the same I really like I feel the same ready. By you rushed me right in I have a like a vacuum the cleat. I never said how many vessels. The Macy's sheet of mystery the sheet of money. Then I could just bring 60 in 60 different vessels. I really like you you'll be easy to share it so. And we had review the argument this and says no if I say mincha you can't bring any one of the five you want. There's a default there's a break at McDonald. And the default is Silas. You don't know how you doing cuz I feel what what's so ready says oh it's shishim you had a shovel in office. It's the it's the it's the most important one. Why? So maybe the it is we're starting off saying how you possible I had a killer. The the Torah the first mincha mentioned in the entire is mincha solas. Wait a minute. If what the Torah says first is the most important, so then every time a person says I'm bringing oil you must bring a cow which is super expensive versus a sheep. If he says He he can't bring a goat. He has to bring a a sheep. Why cuz the Torah mentions it first. When I when he says I'm going to bring a bird, you'll be tired. He should bring a tire not a not a doll not a pigeon. Why cuz that's first in the Torah. But the fact is the Mishnah versus oil he could bring a sheep not a cow. According to what you're saying it should be a cow cuz it's first in the Torah. He could bring whatever he wants. He probably doesn't argue. So, we have to say what what he says in the Mishnah that the reason why he brings a solas is cuz it's a special. And the last lay shame of I It doesn't have another name. Like if somebody says I'm doing the daf, I'm doing daf. What does daf mean? Daf means daf yomi. It doesn't mean any other kind of daf that there is you have in you have in a school you have a daf kashya you have a daf this daf that. No, it's one thing. Check this out. Typical typical mincha the possuk says it's called minchas maraches. How does the Torah call a solas? It's not called mincha solas. It's called mincha lashem. Solas ya korban. It's not a mincha solas. It's by itself. It has it doesn't say the word mincha solas. It has nothing accompanying it. It's by itself. So, when a person says mincha he he means solas. But the problem is what kind of oil you just said the reason is because it's the first in the possuk. Azel mincha of I In other words, the main reason is because it doesn't have an accompanying name. That's the main thing. But how do I remember it? This is it's the first one that the Torah starts off with. Shita mincha solas gomar. You're telling me we're talking about the solas. This is where okay mincha min min a mincha. So, here's the question again. So, let's just see it again. >> [clears throat] >> Here's the two No, sorry not this one. These are the two cases that in the Mishnah. Min mincha Anybody knows Hebrew simple uh dictoc min mincha is very very singular means one. Min mincha is It means two although you could okay. Boy Rap Pop up minay mincha mahu What if he adds Case number three in the bottom gimel. It says minay mincha. So, the one hand minay means two mincha means one. So, what do you do? So, the explains the question. Keep in mind minay Tired of gomor means two. Umay mincha but but why do you say mincha? Seems like a contradiction and you should do like he asked. No. The not a mincha that's the logic of the possuk. You talk about all these minchas and at the end the Torah calls it in the singular lotion. I have no idea where he is he disappeared. He asked the question and ran. Okay. I deal more given the other mincha perhaps mincha means one. Umay minay mincha Why did he say plural in the beginning? How do you From all the five types I want to bring one. Toshma huh? Okay. I got it. Toshma mincha min mincha yoviachas. So, basically all the gomor is doing let's let's just leave this on the thing for a second. Gomor says take a look at case alef all the way on the top. It says min mincha. So, and that's one mashma mashma Let's just do the outside very simple. Mashma from case alef that if you change the wording a little bit and instead of saying min you do minay it should be two. Only alef means one but anything different than alef should be two. So, what's the classic gomor going to ask? But from case base is mashma that only min mincha is is two but if you change the wording to minay mincha is going to be one. So, because of what is the gomor going to say? You're right. Since I can't go from what? Something like that. Since it's a a little bit of a problem from from alef is mashma that it's two from base is mashma that it's one. So, we're not going to learn from our Mishnah. Toshma from our Mishnah it says mincha min mincha yoviachas case alef. How many mincha but if I change it to case gimel stain. Otherwise it would have said case gimel in the Mishnah. No, let's learn from the safer. Minchas min mincha If a person says min minchas in that case case base yovi stain the middle case you bring two. So, I could infer how many mincha but if I change the wording around holla. I can't learn that from the ration of the safer. So, let's go by toshma. But over here the only difference that changes now is that there's only one case in this brisa. I don't have two cases contradicting each other. So, I'm going to do the same exact thing again but I don't have Oh, it's mashma from the ration like this and the safer over here I just have a safer. I have case base. It says in the brisa min minchas a lie yovi stain minchas min mincha. You bring two. Oh, but if I change the wording around to minay mincha I'll only bring one. Says the gomor beautiful you inferred well. But perhaps you should infer it slightly different and then I don't have a good outcome. That what? You're right. Case gimel is going to be different than case base. What's the outcome of case base? That you bring two. So, the gomor wants to infer that case gimel you bring one. No, maybe case gimel you bring one two total two but from different types. That's basically what Gil was saying before. Minay mincha different types of minchas one from two different types. One maraches one machvas. Whereas case base going to be two from the same type. I don't know maybe stain the meaning. So, maybe I can't I can't infer. The we don't we don't we don't we don't learn like that in the brisa. It says min minchas a lie. Where is that? Oh. This I had to do a little surgery myself. Min minchas a lie. The case number one on top case alef. Maybe stain minchas min mincha. He has to bring two minchas but from one one type. Minay minchas a lie case base. Minay minchas maybe stain minchas min stain minam. One times two. One mincha from two minam I wrote there. Ha minay mincha holla. But our case haray lay minay mincha should only bring one. Look. The two top cases is two but I can infer that if I change the wording around a little bit it should be one. Says the gomor maybe this goes like gomor. That's given you we had many times in this after. At least three. No, I think more. But we had them a bunch of times. So, what? That if a person you have five minchas. Check out number four number five. Number four and five they go together. Rub Shimon actually says that you can mix and match. That's important for our now just to go back a little bit hazara. How is one the holds no if a person says if he says mincha he can only bring 10 or 10 Rub Shimon says no. In fact, you can bring five and five. You can't do that with and or but and you can mix and match. You can do six and four if you want. One and nine whatever you want. Okay. So, the wording this wording could go like Rub Shimon. That what? Haray lay minay mincha. It it it it's different types in one mincha. A is a minay and becomes one mincha. Umay minay mincha mincha these but they minay. It's two types in one mincha. You cannot mix and match. Maybe stain minchas min stain minam they in fact hold has to be two different types of minchas. If you're asking me if a person has no idea what mincha he said he might have said a solas he might have said a machvas. He has to bring all five. Man the like Rub Shimon. This does not go like Rub Shimon. The Rub Shimon given the mix and match yovi. In so we look at esser. Super simple. Check this out. What do we have on the screen here? Five types of minchas. So, if a guy doesn't know what he said he has to bring five. How many will he bring? 10. How many does he bring? 10. The problem is what if he said what if he tried to mix the and rekeekin? Five of each. So, he has to bring five and five. So, that's already six varieties. And what if he said six and four? So, that's seven varieties. What? The combinations that are available to you are 14 total. Why? The five that we have on the screen but the bottom two number four and five you can mix and match. So, only according to Rub Shimon here. You would have to typically bring 10 rakikin and 10 chalice. That's normal. But what if he said one rakikin nine chalice? So you have to bring one and nine. The guy could Is he allowed to say according to Is he allowed to say one one rakikin nine chalice? He's allowed to. You're allowed to mix. So he has to bring this. Maybe he said this. The guy who was a The guy says I I brought a mincha. I forgot what I said. Forget what he said. So maybe you said one rakikin and nine chalice. So bring one rakikin nine chalice. But maybe he said two rakikin eight chalice. So you have to bring that. That's another That's another variety. And another variety. How many total combinations are there a boy say? Nine. Cuz it's nine and one. One and nine. So there's only nine varieties. Plus there's another two. 10. 10 and zero of rakikin 10 and zero of chalice. So that's 11. Plus three more. Which are Let's go back to the three more. The top ones. So let's say my house is a total of 14. Is everybody with me or we have to do hazara? Abaya amar. Affiliating Shimon. No, it could go like Reb Shimon. The what? We said that you could bring five five minchas in the mishnah you could bring all five. According to Reb Shimon you have to bring 14 because there's another nine permi- what? Who what? Um um combinations. There's another nine combinations. So it can't be Reb Shimon. Says no, it could be Reb Shimon. Bring five. Reb boys say bring five. 10 chalice, 10 rakikin and make it nine. Say if it was one from here and nine from here or two from here and nine from here. What's the problem? The reason my son Moshiach All you need to do is is make a little condition. The Reb Shimon says maybe I should maybe I should So baruch Hashem Rashi if Rashi doesn't short, I'm also going to do it short. He doesn't go It's it's a it's a little bit of a complicated situation. This guy is having a terrible terrible day. He's not sure if he's a metzora like a muchlan and a muzgar. >> [clears throat] >> He's one or the other. And he's not sure if he's a nazir. He's completely confused. >> [snorts] [laughter] >> No, no, no, no. He is he is both of these. He just doesn't know if he's a real nazir or fake nazir. But this guy is a nazir. He's 100% a nazir. Now he doesn't know if he went to the when he was in the funeral did he touch the body? Was he with the Did he do oil? He doesn't know. So what should he do? Think about it. If he knows for sure that he touched the dead body, what does he do? Gets a haircut, starts all over again, brings korbanos, starts all over. But he cannot do that. He You can't just take a haircut while you're a nazir. If you're a nazir and you take a haircut you're over the reisha. If you knew for sure it was okay. So what does he do? Very simple. He waits till the end of the 30 days. This typical nazirus 30. Waits the 30. Gets a haircut. Cuz anyways you would have to get a haircut even if he was a nazir. And then he starts over again. So he has a total 60 days. At the same time he also doesn't know if he's a metzora muchlan and a muzgar that could put him in for for two weeks, one week. So is he a complete metzora or not? Okay. The bottom line is you have a guy that's very confused here. And he's supposed to bring It says over here after day 16 61 maybe I should bring a carbon asham like a nazir does with the oil that a nazir everybody knows. Nazir, yeah? The famous videos that we have. Put put it on the on the finger on the this on his head. Vayomer. And he makes a condition. Here see Reb Reb Shimon says he can make a condition. Now what? If I'm a metzora then I should So I'm bringing my carbon asham. If not, asham is not If not, my asham is not a asham. My asham is is a shlamim. Let's think about it. Everybody knows the answer to this. We're just going to do hazara. A asham is in what category? Koche koche kalim? Asham. Asham. Huh? Let's ask the 11 year old. Tam and Ari. What do you say? Koche koche. What do you say? Okay, koche koche. I go with the kid. It's koche koche. What's shlamim? Kalim. So we have a big problem cuz there's big differences between the two. You can't take a asham and say oh it should be a shlamim. So you have to be machmir in each one whatever kumer it has. For instance, asham don't shchit in the tzafon. A koche koche, a chatos and asham and a shlamim tzibur you could only do shchita on the north part of the azara. A shlamim you could do in the south. But it doesn't matter. Let's just be machmir and say this animal since it might be an asham, let's shchit it only in the tzafon. And you go through the whole process of metzora matan b'yadois and you put the the oil on its on its thumb and its big finger. Blood the whole thing. Usmicha. Now this is not for an asham. This is only for a shlamim. So you lean on it. Unasachim. You bring wine. This is not for an asham. This is only for shlamim. Right? Every shlamim and every oil gets unasachim. Utnuvas chazal This is only for shlamim that you lift up the chazal the shike in the ear you you do the whole nanum. Now this is for how how long can you eat koche koche for? Only for one day. How long can you eat shlamim for? Two days. So what do you do? You only eat it for one day. What's the problem? What's the problem if you take something you could eat for two days and only eat for one day? Let's see if the 11 year old knows. Sha sha. Let's see if the This is a hard one. I don't know if he knows this one. No, if you could if you take something you could eat for two days and only eat it for one day, it's a problem. Why is it a problem? What is it called the problem? It's base noiser. So what is it called? Base of soul. Exactly. Koche noiser soul. Maybe koche noiser soul. So the other guy have to come Reb Shimon koche. This is gevaldig. I love this. What does it say? Bishchitas koche. Meaning meseches It's another way in the time of the gemara. They didn't call it meseches They called it bishchitas shchitas koche. I'm learning What meseches you learning? Shchitas koche. That's the meseches. So even though I'm going to go I'm going to go I'm going to do it. Even though we already took this apart in zevachim. Aima d'Reb Shimon my son Moshiach l'chatchila. When did Reb Shimon say that you could do this all l'takunei gavra? This is to help a human being that's in a big tzara. He's having a bad day. He's a metzora. He doesn't know what to do with himself. And he'll never be able to eat koche again in his life. So we have we have a fix for him. Abaya amar b'stam azoy. They have it in l'chatchila. You can't tell somebody >> [clears throat] >> make a tnai on your carbon when it doesn't really help anybody. It says the gemara This is the answer. How to immediately Gabai shlamim the kumer mad b'chilozen. When is it a big problem and you could only do when you're helping somebody out to fix his life? It's by shlamim because you took something a carbon. You have a 200 lb You have 200 lb of meat. And you just said I'm limiting it. You could only eat the meat for one day. That's a big problem. The have a look koche the base of soul. >> [snorts] >> The the expiration date you shorten the expiration date. It's terrible. Abba mincha l'chatchila. But a mincha this all the minchas are the same exact date. The this is They're all for one day. A mincha you can only eat one day. Did I mess anything up? Amar Reb Papa. Labai. Reb Papa says to Abai. Reb Shimon says it's rakikin yovi. Hakamaisi sorin mishnei sorin v'lugach mishnei lugan. So this video believe it or not as silly as it is it's really going to explain the sugiya beautifully cuz I wanted to bring two bags of flour and I said you know what? I don't need to because this guy did a very good job here. Oh my. Okay. Where was it? Here. Basically think about it. For the rakikin have to bring a bag of flour. For the chalice have to bring a bring a bag of flour. Where am I doing my kmitza from? I'm making a I'm making a tnai a condition. That if I decided to bring half and half, half chalice half this, so half should be a neder, half should be a nedava. I have to make a condition. I'm bringing 10 loaves of challah, 10 loaves of rakikin and I start making conditions. If I said eight and two, so the eight and two should be my real thing and the rest should be a nedava. And if it's five and five, the five and five should be my real carbon. But I have two separate bags of I made I made my challah out of one bag of flour and I made my rakikin out of one bag of flour. How am I doing my kmitza? How am I mixing it? Here, check this out. This might explain a little bit better than what I just explained. I need to bring a mincha for chova and a mincha for nedava. Okay. So we need an isaron of solet and an isaron of yoyin for each one. What is the chova and what is the nedava? Half from here for chova and half for nedava. And half from here for chova and half from here for nedava. You said one here is nedava and one is chova. How can you divide the clee of solet and the clee with the shamen like that? I hold like Rabbi Shimon. >> [music] >> Okay. So as the gemara says chazal rakikin yovi my son Moshiach sorin. You bring one isaron from two. In other words, one from one isaron for each type. V'lugach mishnei lugan. One look for each type. For one look for the rakikin, one for the chalice. It's not a problem. Shimon says >> [clears throat] >> Listen to this. A person says I'm going to bring one is on. He ends up bringing two in two separate vessels. But he took a half from here and a half from here. The return be good. You [clears throat] don't have one together. You have a half here and a half here. He says it's okay. So here also it's okay. That's a very good. It's okay. We make one say he comments. You don't have the you don't have everything together. You have a mixture of in one bowl and a mixture of where do you do your from? The master makes a condition if I said I'm only going to bring by themselves. Or the by themselves. But if I made if what I promised was half and half or whatever combination. The the house. Whatever I take. It should be for the part of the and the part of the nether or the part of my community will be for the part will be for the nether. That's a very good. But why do we have to have one for both? They should all be we said once. They should all be we said once. I'll just we don't have to we don't have time here. But you do something like this and right? You take the color. You break it up into pieces. You take the thing and once you have all the pieces of the and the together in one bowl. You do a like that. But it should be one from everything mixed in. Should be very good. Yeah. You should have one mixture not two different mixtures. Have a wonderful day. >> [music] >> Merit the host of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a share today. Mdy.sponsor.com or sponsor.mdy.com.