CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 84 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] Good morning. I hear a over there. So, we're in a very interesting sug basically is a easier than easy. So we're holding the middle of the suga that you cannot our Mishna tells us you don't do. You don't cover the blood of a carbon. The only carbon that it's available for is a bird because the other type of animal that you cover the blood is a there are no in the mdash. You only bring a beah on the md. You don't bring a deer ever. So for the bird, the gumar goes on to explain why you can't do you can't add anything to the misb. So you can't leave it on the mb. If it's not part of the misb then it's a misb. So the says I don't understand why don't you sprinkle it on the mb then peel it off literally to scrape the blood off the knife. But the Gar says, "Why don't you sprinkle the blood on the mah, then call the zakat in, peel it off, put it on a pile of dirt and cover it, and then you'll be the So says because we're talking now, we're not talking about we're talking about which are animals that are designated for the upkeep of the B md. People donate stuff to the B md. They could donate, you know, cars for kids. They'll donate cars, planes, and animals. And when they you donate an animal, it's to be sold and the money goes to you went ahead and you it had no right to. And therefore, the Gmorra says, and this is important for what we're about to learn. Now, if it's a type of that doesn't allow you to eat, that rib shim already holds. We had a few times already in the last few dip holds. If you can't eat after that, it's not a good it's not a that needs. Yeah, you have an animal that's owned by the mid. You went ahead and you What were you thinking? You're not going to be able to eat it. It's also it's owned by the mdash. So that doesn't accomplish eating. And if it doesn't accomplish eating, then you don't have to cover its blood as top of just going back a few words. So what if you illegally redeem it and then go ahead and cover it? You can do says you need to be able to in order to redeem something from the vis you have to stand it up on its feet and then you have to give it an appraisal. And guess what? Most of the time when you kill an animal, it can't stand on its feet. So if it can't stand on its feet, you can't do an appraisal. in the story you can't appraise it. If you can't appraise it, you can't redeem it and you're stuck with an animal that you can't eat. So the says let me show you this very very simple chart but it makes the whole so easy. There are two things that we're going to be discussing. If you something and it doesn't accomplish that you could eat it according to mayor it's green. What does green mean? It's still good according to I just explained before two minutes ago according to it's red if you if it doesn't accomplish eating it's red it's no good and then we just discussed means do you need to stand it up on its feet and give it an appraisal says yes you need to give it an appraisal says wait a minute we're talking about in in what over here the two things don't go together it's either green and red or red and green nobody says red and red You're telling me you need two things. You need that it's a that's no good. And also you need you need to be able to appraise it. But if you're a mayor, you only hold one of those two things. And if you're shim, you only hold one of those two things. The opposite. So what do we do? We don't have anybody that holds two reds. If it's Romeo who says that you must have an appraisal, he's the one that says it's okay if you have a that doesn't accomplish eating. It's green. The whole answer of the Gmorra is the reason why we don't do is because he did a that you can't eat from it. But according to it's not a problem. So what if he can't eat from it? He still requires on the left side he holds in fact that if you can't that was the whole remember we had even a Mishna that if it's a traa you find out it's a traa it's not considered a good there was a that said in rib shim that when it comes to a carbon there's never that's in all no is because you have to do right away all thing also we So according to read but he holds you don't need to do you don't need to do an appraisal doesn't need you don't need to you don't need to do an appraisal and therefore you could redeem it if you can redeem it why what's the problem why can't you do on an animal that was designated for the upkeep of the says Check this out here. Now in the chart, it's super easy. Let me show you what we did here. Rebiadesh, the one who wrote the Mishna. He basically picked and chose. He took one of each. So he has two reds. You're asking me who's the Tana that holds two reds? It's Rebi. He took one red from one red from and boom, now he has two reds. He holds is not a and he also holds and he's the one that wrote the Mishna. And therefore he wrote in the Mishna that when it comes to there's no it goes according to and he went according to the when it comes to that's not you can't eat from it. that's considered not a good but when it comes to doing an appraisal you don't have to do an appraisal that's why doesn't you don't need to do you could say the entire goes like what's the question why don't you do why don't you cover the blood of you could go ahead and redeem it says says the no anytime you need another step that's not good. You need to be able to cover the blood immediately without taking another step. You spill the blood you cover it. That's because you don't have to do an additional step. But this animal you have to do this extra step of redeeming it. redeeming it after the before the then it doesn't require. says once you're saying this this idea that you shouldn't have to do an extra step yesterday we switched gears. We said we're not talking about a carbon. We're talking about an animal that belongs to the to the portion of the migr. No, we could also say that's talking about it's a regular carbon. So that's why we can't be talking about a carbon because what was your question? You should be able to scrape it off like a zaka person. scrape off the blood and uh and cover it. No, that's extra step. Does not require any steps. After you do the you cover it. If you have to do extra step of of scraping, then you don't do and one more before we get to that. It says in the that what requires a wild animal like a deer or a bird. So here here's where Rebi knew to say that a bird cannot be a carbon because it's like just like which it says right together with the bird and is never a carbon. So to a bird is not a carbon. There's no kissing by a carbon bird asking. So can never be a carbon. So a bird also but since pigeons could be a carbon maybe they shouldn't be in at all ever even when you areing it at home. Chicken. Okay. But maybe pigeons you should never have to do this. All all wild animals are don't make any distinctions in birds. There's no difference between a pigeon and not a pigeon. All birds are just like all and here starts. So you know right away by his name that this is going to be a lot of fun. His name is Min. Min means a kifer. He was he was starting out with ra the the the heretic was trying to find you know a hole in the he says we know that it doesn't say anywhere in the that a deer has certain you go by the parasa malera it choose its cut all that stuff. It doesn't say it only says we learn from the so he asks him. So maybe if that's the case, all cows and all goats and sheep should require just like if if the Torah doesn't say that what what the sim of is in order to eat it then you're learning from you should learn from. So just like you learn from learn says okay interesting question but there's a here talks about the blood and then says you should not eat blood now is blood also when you have blood in Is it? No. No way. So why does it say you should split it on the floor? What's the difference where where you put it? Why do you have to split it on the floor? Sell it to nonju. I don't know what. Why sell it to I'm sure there's factories today. They use the blood. They they they make uh fish food from it. All sorts of stuff. >> Food coloring. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Really? Okay. Something. I think they use it for fish food also. So there's they can use every every part. Why do you have to spill it on the floor? Says I'll tell you why. Treat it like water just like you don't cover water with with dirt. So you don't have to cover the blood of says oh you telling me that blood of an animal is is just like water. Imagine making a mikvah out of blood. You should be you should be able to be in a mikvah made out of blood. And we know that that's not the case. No, this you're right. It's a good question. But the Torah tells us only water. You're right. Maybe it's the other liquids like like juices, all the other liquids that don't work for mikvah. But maybe blood should work for mikvah. Why? Because the Torah compares it to water. Says gar. Okay, good question. This is not this is asking questions. There's in fact two that tell us this. It says in the one is to say that other liquids are not good for the mikvah and one is to say that blood in specific is not good for a mikvah. Says but wait a minute maybe within other liquids there's two types of liquids. means and I'm going to show you a beautiful video that they did. Mamesh top the as follows. If you have a mikvah, let me show you the picture first then I'll show you the video. At least we'll use the picture before I show you the video. If you have a mikvah that has how much how many saw does a mikvah have to have? >> 40 saw. So if you have a majority of the so you have 21 majority of half not majority majority of 50 you have 51% of the mikvah 21 so and you go and you fill it up with and you go fill it up with water that's water from the sink but it it crawled so to speak on the floor it's what >> we call it goes on a they even do it today in mik they have like a pipe that's the uh not horizontal a vertical no horizontal pipe horizontal like piece of concrete and the water goes float and it goes into the mikvah just in case it's shuim so it goes like that so this would be kosher for a mikvah if it's the water if you have more than 51% of make shim in the bar in the mikvah I could get 19 s out of sink water as long as it moves on floor. I'm going to show you a video here. Let's just show it now. So, I would think that with juice, let's say apple juice, you could also get it to. It's great. Ah, look how beautiful this is. The the Austria. It's showing you z in here and it fills up the 40. So, it's kosher. So, I would think the same thing with apple juice. It should be kosher. That's why I need a puzzle to say no. So is saying who told you that one one word one one one statement in the Tory is telling you juices are no good for the mik the other one is telling you blood maybe both are going for the juices for the but two in the one is telling you [clears throat] excuse me is no good one is telling you stationary it's there or you know you could say the opposite one is to tell you one is to tell you which is a big okay says you're In fact, there's three which would tell us that it can't be can't be moving water on the ground which would tell us that is no good and to tell us the blood is no good. So here's the question when are you allowed to eat meat? I'm not talking about the nine days that we're in the nine days talking about meat but in general on a Monday night you want to eat a steak. Is it okay? Is there any concern at all? Are there any issues? So basically what the Gmorra is going to go into is really what you could afford. That's to do with affordability more than anything. If somebody could afford it every night at the end of the day you could eat it every night. Is there any issue with that? So we're going to see says it seems from the if you're talking about the of it says he trapped he he he hunted. Why is it talking about hunting only if you hunted it? How do you know you need if you already have it in your farm? Like dogs, geese, and chickens. It's a double lion here in this. So says, so then why why does the go into hunting? or you should always pretend that you it was hard for you to get. So if you have a whole farm, you shouldn't just go and and eat it. You should pretend it should be as if you had to go out and it was hard for you. Why? So Rashi right away explains, don't worry about it. Rashi explains that the issue is that you should become poor from it. Don't eat so much meat that it's going to make you poor. The gives us permission. It used to be that you couldn't eat meat unless you bring a carbon. That was in the in the uh in the midbar. But then the Tor goes the Torah tells us you're gonna come and then let's see let's see the P because it talks about I want to eat meat because you have the desire to eat it. You can eat as your heart desires. So says the if you have a great desire then you could go eat meat. Interesting. It almost seems like from this line that if a person is satiated, he ate a good dinner. He had a lot a lot of pizza for dinner and then he goes to like uh his friend's house and he sees a good steak on the table. You shouldn't really eat it. It's when you have a big ta for it, then you could eat it. I'm not passing. I'm just throwing out what the Gar says at this point. Maybe you could go and and just get it from the from the marketplace. You should take it from your own. In other words, you have it. Again, it's all within that same idea that it shouldn't make you poor. So, you have it ready. So, then you can go eat it. Maybe you should get you should just you have one cow left it up from what you have not all of it. So now he says like this if all you have to your bank account is one mana you have a hundred. So what do you put in your pot? Vegetables. You're going to be eating vegetables or boy goes by how much money you have. What if you have a thousand? You got no you could already eat salmon. Now you're good. What if you have 5,000 now? You could eat meat. In other words, meat is more expensive than fish. So you can put in your path even meat. So it goes in. If you're not that wealthy, eat vegetables. If you're wealthy, eat fish. If you're super wealthy, then you could eat meat. We're concerned about you not losing your money. There's some very nice uh ideas here that really should take on. We'll see soon. So, okay. So, these guys may if he has 100 If he has 10,000. Yeah. 10,000. He could eat meat every single day. And other guys, these the guys that don't eat fish and they eat vegetables, they should eat their fish only once a week. We should listen to it's not fair. Rav came from a very healthy family, strong people. If you you should take whatever money you have and buy meat. You need it. You need the nutrition. If a person's like Rab as strong as Rab, he wasn't a weakling. And he says over here, you know, we we're kind of weak. Rav is strong. So he but we we should eat a lot of meat. We should spend our last dime to buy meat. You hear this? This could be Romanians um worse than this. We're so weak. You should borrow money to buy meat. Now you're less than go into debt for this. Says the now we're going to be these these the sheep for your clothing. From the wool of the sheep you should have clothing. The is giving us real estate advice. I don't think it applies today that you should always sell your real estate and buy sheep. Sell your real estate. You should never sell your sheep and buy real estate. You should have from the milkon. He says don't she your goats but milk them. Just keep on milking them so you have income. Listen to this. Your bread comes before those of your children. First take care of yourself. Make sure that you're you're in good shape. You're in good shape. then you can help your your child. And don't don't take this out of context. I didn't say don't help your kids and don't do I'm saying there's a there's a there's a limit, you know, I don't want to be the guy. The first thing that came to my mind is like when people take their kids to Kdesh and they're like 14 years old and they're pouring them. You're teaching them how to drink liquor. It's a big thing here in America. You know, these young teenagers, they're they drink more than adults. So is don't teach your son how to drink wine and eat meat. If you want to become very wealthy, so Tyus right away asked the question over here. The topis the famous that says that you don't you don't get a you don't have when you work with small animals I remember also there was another concern that your animals going to go steal but doesn't say that maybe I'm completely off but he says it's people see it you have these animals in a place where nobody sees them then that's the big that's the big of making These animals can make you very wealthy. There are people I I once spoke about it. the people that have those big ranches, they're worth billions of dollars, literally because every one of these animals is worth thousands of dollars and they have hundreds of, you know, oh, if you have the option of of drinking a cup of something from a witch, you should you should drink from the witch and not uh from a cup that's worn. You hear this? You have two options. So, we have a video of it. I'm going to show you the video at the end, but that's when you're drinking out of metal. But if you're drinking out of earnware, it's not a problem. In other words, the understands that drinking warm water is very dangerous for the body. It's only when you don't put in the different spices. But if you put the spices in, it's not a problem. When you didn't boil it up, listen to this. This is important. This is to a lot of people. This applies to, you know, sport to athletes. athletes that make a lot of money suddenly people that um win the lottery and people that inherit a lot of money. It's always an issue and you see go do some research the people that win lotteryies most of the time they lose all their money in a very very short amount of time and the tells you how to do it. If you want to be you want meaning if you want to be a and not take care of your finances, this is what you do right away. Go out and buy customade suits. You should you should use. So if you inherit a small fortune, what do you do? Wear all these very very expensive designer clothing. Oh, you should buy these beautiful watches, these these glass, hire a lot of workers. Let's say you're doing a renovation in a place. Don't come check up on them. Let them do their own thing. What does it mean that you're going to wear this uh cotton clothing, very expensive Roman clothing? What does it mean? You're going to use glass wear white. Don't don't drive a glass car. It's when it's white. And when you hire workers and you're not with them, this is referring to with bulls. You could lose a lot of money. Sometimes you say in the name of some a person should live under his means. It's a big today in it's a big disease. It's a big crankite that people live above their means. Why? Because you always have to you're living for the Jones. You're living for the other guy. You're not living for yourself so much. So you live above your means. You're buying the newer car. You're buying the nicer house. You got it. It's always above the means. Less than what he what he could afford. But you should when it comes to to keeping your body safe from the elements, then you should you should buy clothing that exactly what you could afford. So there's three categories here. It's living below your means, but for clothing with your means and for your wife and your children above. Don't let them know this. Don't ever tell your wife and your kids about this. [snorts] But that's what it says over here. You should give your wife and children more than your means. Why? Because they are dependent on you. Who? But the the the father, the husband, you are dependent on the so don't worry about it. First take care of them. If you take care of them, you give them more than what they need, Hashem will pay you back. So here we go. Stood there by the doorway of the goals and he said, he said, listen to this on Shabas to do we said is a problem. Why is it a problem? But if you have to anyway on Shabas, why? Because you have a sick person. So then you're permitted to do the what he said is something that doesn't make any sense. I like the gentler one. And that is he doesn't deserve to have somebody speak for him and make you know to be the tana to say it loudly when he speaks softly somebody says it loudly. How could he say something like this that on you should do? He says we learned that that's an animal that the mother or the father is and the mother is. It's a combination of we have a suffic what it is and if you went ahead do not cover his blood and he says says this is so pay attention remember this if you have a that the kid was definitely born on chabas that is on but when you have a suffic when this kid was born whether he was born before yont or after in other words he's born on a day where come is on yontiff or maybe not on yont I don't know so what do you do you don't do a brisma you hear in other words if you know for sure that the baby was born on a shabas so you do a brism on shabas that we know that's val but if a baby is born seven days before yont but by besmashes and I don't know if he was born where the brism should be on yont or maybe the brrism should be after yont That's a suffix. You don't do a So how in the world says the one that says that if you or you don't do and he says if that pushes off when you know for sure but when you don't know for sure it doesn't even push off. So these are the words that we're looking for. What does it say? when you know for a fact that you should do does not push off shabas. So how come said at the entrance of the gull that when you do an animal on shabas because you you're supposed to because it's then you should do what it says specifically here is not pushing off. So certainly you shouldn't push it off. It's a question on and that's why you should either cut out his tongue as one of the or take away his speaker. So he said no but I have a from outside. What's the problem with outside? We don't blow outside. Why? Because maybe you'll go and and the the If you know for for a fact that today is and happens to be shabas, you don't blow shabas and we're going to see what that means. It basically means that if you you're not sure if this person is a woman or a man you should blow. So your your is not a good because sometimes you see that pushes off shabas and a suffic also does said an answer we're going to finish in two minutes because we got to I got to say another before you know what has a very weak thing about it. You don't you don't do a night. Here it says only during the day you do maybe can't bring has something that's more than you could do at night. I had no answer to it. had a great answer says now just finishes this question you should not do when it's certain that you do it in other words isn't it talking about our case that you have but you shouldn't do so who told you maybe it's talking about that he just didn't listen and And therefore you should maybe do no similar to what no talking about like is optional. In other words, it's not an is okay. It's not that you're and you did it. Milo means you're not over. You have to do it. You should do it. So also not that you went ahead and without permission. You know what? So we stop over here. Have a wonderful day, a meaningful fast and bashm. We should see the bdash. >> Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today. mdysponsor.com or [music] sponsor at mdy.com.