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CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 79 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky
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holding some smack in the middle says
the
brought down briefly
who what's the
according
is only a mother and her offspring. A
mother with her son. A mother and a
daughter.
And
a father
with a son. A father and a daughter is
not in one day
is the
uh him and it says in the
saying it means only the mother.
So this is an idea that we're going to
see and talk about a lot
because are we concerned? Do we care
about a father? When it comes to
Judaism, we care about the father a lot.
Father, if a father is a spar and the
mother is Ashkanazi, so we go, we say
the kid is a spar.
If a father is a cayenne, the kid is a
cayenne. We care about the father. has a
lot a lot to do with this but not with
an animal maybe that's called
we're not we don't care about the father
it's not important who the father what's
important is who the mother is
so that the the ofing
the offspring in the same day as the
parent is only with the mother he says
no the is goes for father and
a mother the same way my time
was reasonable.
I would think that it would be awesome
to sh a father and his daughter, a
father and son
and we could bring
is actually a whole per
about
chasing away the mother bird. Now what
happens if you have a father bird? You
know here in Bamesh you have a a nice
how you doing? You have a nice uh nest
on your porch. Who doesn't? They want to
be kind to mitzvah. So, first of all, it
can't be on your property. Has to be in
he property. So, you have to be maf your
porch at that area. It's better to be
maf beforehand. Thing is, you go to the
thing, you shoot away. What if it's the
father? Do you get any mitzvah if you
shoot away the father? I mean, there's
no way for you to know if it's the
mother or the father. You can't even
see. Even if you checked, you would you
would know. There's no checking. He said
there's no way to see. So what happens
if you shoe away the father? You get a
mitzvah, you don't get a mitzvah. So
we're going to learn from what's the
mitzvah? The mitzvah is you have a
mother with eggs or with little chicks.
You shoe the mother away.
The whole mitzvah is only when you
mother the female. But now when you the
father,
so too
It's only a mother with her offspring
but not a father with his offspring.
Maybe it's only by uh by a bird because
it has to be heer. The bird has to be
hear when it's on your window sill. It's
a big problem. The best way to do it is
to say before the season like right now
is the season. Say if a if a if you're
not normal, you let the pigeon do it on
your porch. Okay? So you say wherever is
going to do it, I'm right now to begin
with, but you can be maf afterwards.
If you find two animals that are heer,
it still be awesome for you to the
mother and the the son.
One out of the two. In other words,
either the father or the mother.
Now, it's one or the other. Could only
mean one. One parent and you have to
pick which one.
So now the said it's only one. So now
I'm going to have to use the
So now I'm going to learn from just like
is only the mother not the father
only by the mother
if you're going to want to say
it says
here
if you're going to have a question I'm
going to answer you to say from the two
parents. Think about this. From the two
parents, who is a child more connected
to? It's father or it's mother.
>> Mother everybody says mother.
Father not so connected.
Oh, sorry. So, I might have skipped
here.
What does it mean? If you you feel like
saying you want to answer
say the word means only
that's the first thing that came to mind
when I saw the
father and son not the mother and son it
says oh for that I'll tell you
no it has to be a real son in especially
in animals do not connected. This
connection that animals have with their
kids is a mother and a and a son, not a
father and a son.
says this is a father and a and a
mother. They're equal.
The father and his son just like a
mother and a son.
We have a we have a little problem, a
dilemma. On the one hand, it says which
means a father and a son. On the other
hand, it says
of a mother
It applies to both.
We go with
we're concerned about the father. So the
father and son just like a mother and
her son
goes with his own reasoning.
If the mother is a horse, yeah, we're
not going to go into grammar over here.
could go both ways which is a
if the mother is a horse.
What happens when you marry off a horse
together with a donkey? What do you
have?
>> A mule. A parrot or a female.
The what
is
there? Two different mishbas, two
different horses, but one of them had a
boy, one of them had a girl. You're
allowed to marry them off.
Why?
If I care about
the father,
so then they're both they're both mules.
And if I if I don't care about the
father, then they both came from horses.
Either they're mules and a mule can
marry a mule or they're horses. Why are
they horses? Cuz I don't care about the
father. How do you say that in Hebrew? I
don't care about the father. So what do
I care about? Just the mother. And in
both cases, in both families, the mother
is a horse. So, so these two children
right over here, these two pareds in the
center are both horses. They're allowed
to get married because horses to marry a
horse. And if I do care about the
father,
so then we have something new called
mule. So, two mules are allowed to marry
each other. It's not a problem.
Take a look.
If the father just look at the right
side of the mishbak. If the father is a
horse in mishbak number one and the
father is a donkey mishbak number two.
So in a way you have a donkey and a
horse mishb number one and a donkey and
horse mishb number two. But not really.
Why? Because the fathers are different.
Yes, it's a combination of horse and a
donkey but it's different. One the
mother's a horse and one the mother is a
donkey. The other one, the one, the
father's a horse, the father's a donkey.
Different
son.
Why? Because now we have to say maybe we
don't care about think about it. Look at
this for a second. The fathers. Who's
the father on the right side? Everybody
together. Who's the father on the right?
A horse. And who's the father on the
left side? A donkey. What if I don't
care about the fathers? Here. I asked
them out. Look, check this out. They had
a kid. Boom. If I get rid of the
fathers, what do I have here? I have a
mother who's a donkey and a mother who's
a horse. That's a problem.
Cuz now I have a horse that married a
donkey. One mule is a donkey because I
only care for number one, the mule is a
donkey. And number two, the mule is a
horse and a horse cannot marry donkey.
That's if I don't care about the father.
explain if I don't care about the
father. So now I'm left with this this
picture right over here
saying no no no not true and that's why
you can't even switch the name tags
according to you according to that you
should call me at the end of the day I
don't care look
a mule is a mule there's two types of
mules one mule the father was a horse
and the mother was a was a donkey the
other one was in reverse the father was
a donkey the mother is a mule but
they're both mules and a mule can marry
a mule say
No,
here we go
in plural is that means says I pass like
why do I call him? Because that's how I
pass. I go with the plural. I go with
the with the majority
because I care about the father. So in
this case I'm going to care about the
father over here. On the right side, the
father is a horse and on the left side,
the father is a donkey and I care about
them.
So
now the offspring, the guys in the
center are 50% horse, 50% donkey. Why?
Cuz I care about the father. So doesn't
matter how you got to the 50%.
Is there a difference if a father's
Ashkanazi and a mother's or the mother's
father's what's the difference? The kid
is 50/50. That's it. No matter how it
work it's 50/50
ask
say for a fact I know that I don't care
about the the father
or maybe he wasn't sure which is
interesting we're going to say everybody
holds we're not sure
everybody holds we're not sure we don't
know for a fact
what's the difference
check this out.
There's one mishbuck over here. We have
a donkey and a horse. The mother is a
horse and they have offspring.
Now that offspring, if I don't care
about the father, that offspring is let
him marry a horse. Why? Cuz he's a
horse. I care only about the mother.
If I already decided what is
then about the father, oh
But if we have a suffic premium also
this case
this case that there's a a mule
that came from so that would be also
so what's that what do we do at the end
of the day is it not a says
really says anything that was born from
a a female horse even though the father
is a donkey.
What's the case?
So we go back to picture number one.
This is this is a simple case that what
both fathers and both both are both
donkeys. Both mothers are both a horse.
Take a look at this picture for a
second. Is there any problem in this
picture? Could Could the offspring marry
each other? Both B both mothers are
horses. Both fathers are donkeys. What's
the problem? The offspring is the same
exact. They're identical offspring. You
either call them a mule or you call them
a horse. Either way, they're allowed to
marry each other.
Now, we're going to a new case.
Check this out. Look at Mishb number
one. What's number one's son going to be
called?
a horse. 100% pure purebred horse.
Thoroughb bread
number two, the mother is a horse. Oh,
so this is the case. We're saying that
since the mother is a horse and number
two, the father is a donkey, I don't
care about the father, this actually
reminds me a little bit of yamus.
Yamus just with horses and donkeys.
Unbelievable. Okay.
So what's the case?
What do you see? If in this case you
make a between a horse and a and a praa
which the mother is a horse. What does
that tell me?
I don't care about number two father.
He's nothing to me. What is the what is
the what is that the the kala? She's a
she's a thoroughbred horse. Why? They
don't care about the the horse on the
right. Of course, he's a horse. His
father and mother are horse. So, you see
that we have we have a we came to the
conclusion.
No,
we're talking about the case the simple
case that the two parents are identical.
The mothers are horses. The fathers are
Yeah.
Maybe these guys cannot get married.
Why? Because maybe the 50% of him is he
gets married to 50% of the the horse and
his 50% that is a horse is getting
married to 50% isamar.
Let's see what it came out with here.
Oh 50% horse is getting married to the
50% and that's a problem
says
gosh maybe that's the what maybe I'm
coming to tell you then in this case
this case it's a third men there's
something called a horse something
called a donkey something called a mule
and then mules allowed to marry mule
it's a new a new thing we it's not a
horse marrying a mule a horse marrying a
donkey it's a mule marrying a mule
You have a mule that wants to have
children or whatever. So you not make a
with a horse or a donkey.
Remember that it's important words only
with her own. She can marry another
mule.
And if it's so simple to you that I
don't care about the father,
figure out who her mother is and get
let's say her mother is a horse.
Let's say her mother's a horse. The
father's a donkey. So give her a sh with
a horse cuz you I only go by the mother
not by the father.
I do care about the father.
It happens to be I don't know. I I found
a mule. I bought a mule on the market. I
don't know if her father is a if the
mother was a donkey or the mother was a
horse. I don't know. Oh, the problem is
it says
I told you to remember those words. It
says elamino. You should marry off with
with her with her.
So you do know.
So the point is if you know you're
right, but you don't know.
She says
check out what's the problem. Take any
mule and you'll see whether or not the
mule is a horse or the mule is a donkey.
How?
If it has a very thick voice, it's a
donkey. It's the son of a donkey. If it
has a very thin ask everybody, you can
tell what it is. If it has a voice like
this, like that,
if it has very large ears
and has a small tail, you should know
it's a donkey.
Oh, so the sh is we could just look at
the ear.
If he has small
tail, he's a horse.
This horse can't scream. Doesn't have a
voice. It doesn't have a tail. Doesn't
have ears. You can't tell.
Oh, so when we go back to this case pre
meaning
you have just one and they had a per
you're allowed to marry the same or
you're not allowed to now we're saying
you're not allowed to marry a horse this
is no good why why is this no good the
mother is a horse why can you marry a
horse the answer is because I'm
concerned about the father is a donkey
so what do you see
We have that what I'm concerned
told his his
when you get me these mules for the
wagon.
Make sure they look the same. They have
the same type of size ears, tail that
they're the are good. The is here. This
is uh I guess a kati kati but this is to
uh to plow a field together with two
different animals and also the the same
is would apply to a wagon to to do other
with these two animals. So make sure
that they're the same the same breed.
You see from here he's not concerned.
Why? Because if he was concerned then he
would allow all mules. Why?
because all mules are the same men
there. But if I if he's not concerned
then you have a problem of kai and also
you see another thing
fact is that
why the the idea that you could return
something to someone based on a little
sim that he how do you say sim in
English
>> not a sign um
>> a mark some sort of uh telling sign a
telling side
>> characteristic.
>> Okay. Identifying marker.
That's a thing because over here we're
talking about based on on the size of a
ear or whatever we're we're allowing it
to happen
says that applies to climb. means two
different types of behemoths like a goat
and a sheep
or is a whole that we're going to have
but basically
this is the the basic one that we're
talking about we're going to see is what
a k is some say it's its own breed it's
something different but some say no it
comes from a goat and a and a deer is
the goat the father mother that's the
soy
But what's interesting about one parent
is a one parent is a
it's very different
argues and he says no when it's two then
you have a problem again what's the idea
let's go back
you know ah
a mother and her son according to won't
cheat. We pass father and a son. But
that only applies to not to the over
here is a problem cuz he's 50%. So maybe
he's not
this. He says the
the two beah says yes that is because
regardless I don't care how you look at
it even if the father is a goat the
mother is a goat doesn't matter but it's
a it's a
but
why because we're going to have to see
the holds
we're going to see That's the whole
what's the case.
All right. So, um it's unfortunate but
because we have this really here and
it's getting late.
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