CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 79 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

holding some smack in the middle says the brought down briefly who what's the according is only a mother and her offspring. A mother with her son. A mother and a daughter. And a father with a son. A father and a daughter is not in one day is the uh him and it says in the saying it means only the mother. So this is an idea that we're going to see and talk about a lot because are we concerned? Do we care about a father? When it comes to Judaism, we care about the father a lot. Father, if a father is a spar and the mother is Ashkanazi, so we go, we say the kid is a spar. If a father is a cayenne, the kid is a cayenne. We care about the father. has a lot a lot to do with this but not with an animal maybe that's called we're not we don't care about the father it's not important who the father what's important is who the mother is so that the the ofing the offspring in the same day as the parent is only with the mother he says no the is goes for father and a mother the same way my time was reasonable. I would think that it would be awesome to sh a father and his daughter, a father and son and we could bring is actually a whole per about chasing away the mother bird. Now what happens if you have a father bird? You know here in Bamesh you have a a nice how you doing? You have a nice uh nest on your porch. Who doesn't? They want to be kind to mitzvah. So, first of all, it can't be on your property. Has to be in he property. So, you have to be maf your porch at that area. It's better to be maf beforehand. Thing is, you go to the thing, you shoot away. What if it's the father? Do you get any mitzvah if you shoot away the father? I mean, there's no way for you to know if it's the mother or the father. You can't even see. Even if you checked, you would you would know. There's no checking. He said there's no way to see. So what happens if you shoe away the father? You get a mitzvah, you don't get a mitzvah. So we're going to learn from what's the mitzvah? The mitzvah is you have a mother with eggs or with little chicks. You shoe the mother away. The whole mitzvah is only when you mother the female. But now when you the father, so too It's only a mother with her offspring but not a father with his offspring. Maybe it's only by uh by a bird because it has to be heer. The bird has to be hear when it's on your window sill. It's a big problem. The best way to do it is to say before the season like right now is the season. Say if a if a if you're not normal, you let the pigeon do it on your porch. Okay? So you say wherever is going to do it, I'm right now to begin with, but you can be maf afterwards. If you find two animals that are heer, it still be awesome for you to the mother and the the son. One out of the two. In other words, either the father or the mother. Now, it's one or the other. Could only mean one. One parent and you have to pick which one. So now the said it's only one. So now I'm going to have to use the So now I'm going to learn from just like is only the mother not the father only by the mother if you're going to want to say it says here if you're going to have a question I'm going to answer you to say from the two parents. Think about this. From the two parents, who is a child more connected to? It's father or it's mother. >> Mother everybody says mother. Father not so connected. Oh, sorry. So, I might have skipped here. What does it mean? If you you feel like saying you want to answer say the word means only that's the first thing that came to mind when I saw the father and son not the mother and son it says oh for that I'll tell you no it has to be a real son in especially in animals do not connected. This connection that animals have with their kids is a mother and a and a son, not a father and a son. says this is a father and a and a mother. They're equal. The father and his son just like a mother and a son. We have a we have a little problem, a dilemma. On the one hand, it says which means a father and a son. On the other hand, it says of a mother It applies to both. We go with we're concerned about the father. So the father and son just like a mother and her son goes with his own reasoning. If the mother is a horse, yeah, we're not going to go into grammar over here. could go both ways which is a if the mother is a horse. What happens when you marry off a horse together with a donkey? What do you have? >> A mule. A parrot or a female. The what is there? Two different mishbas, two different horses, but one of them had a boy, one of them had a girl. You're allowed to marry them off. Why? If I care about the father, so then they're both they're both mules. And if I if I don't care about the father, then they both came from horses. Either they're mules and a mule can marry a mule or they're horses. Why are they horses? Cuz I don't care about the father. How do you say that in Hebrew? I don't care about the father. So what do I care about? Just the mother. And in both cases, in both families, the mother is a horse. So, so these two children right over here, these two pareds in the center are both horses. They're allowed to get married because horses to marry a horse. And if I do care about the father, so then we have something new called mule. So, two mules are allowed to marry each other. It's not a problem. Take a look. If the father just look at the right side of the mishbak. If the father is a horse in mishbak number one and the father is a donkey mishbak number two. So in a way you have a donkey and a horse mishb number one and a donkey and horse mishb number two. But not really. Why? Because the fathers are different. Yes, it's a combination of horse and a donkey but it's different. One the mother's a horse and one the mother is a donkey. The other one, the one, the father's a horse, the father's a donkey. Different son. Why? Because now we have to say maybe we don't care about think about it. Look at this for a second. The fathers. Who's the father on the right side? Everybody together. Who's the father on the right? A horse. And who's the father on the left side? A donkey. What if I don't care about the fathers? Here. I asked them out. Look, check this out. They had a kid. Boom. If I get rid of the fathers, what do I have here? I have a mother who's a donkey and a mother who's a horse. That's a problem. Cuz now I have a horse that married a donkey. One mule is a donkey because I only care for number one, the mule is a donkey. And number two, the mule is a horse and a horse cannot marry donkey. That's if I don't care about the father. explain if I don't care about the father. So now I'm left with this this picture right over here saying no no no not true and that's why you can't even switch the name tags according to you according to that you should call me at the end of the day I don't care look a mule is a mule there's two types of mules one mule the father was a horse and the mother was a was a donkey the other one was in reverse the father was a donkey the mother is a mule but they're both mules and a mule can marry a mule say No, here we go in plural is that means says I pass like why do I call him? Because that's how I pass. I go with the plural. I go with the with the majority because I care about the father. So in this case I'm going to care about the father over here. On the right side, the father is a horse and on the left side, the father is a donkey and I care about them. So now the offspring, the guys in the center are 50% horse, 50% donkey. Why? Cuz I care about the father. So doesn't matter how you got to the 50%. Is there a difference if a father's Ashkanazi and a mother's or the mother's father's what's the difference? The kid is 50/50. That's it. No matter how it work it's 50/50 ask say for a fact I know that I don't care about the the father or maybe he wasn't sure which is interesting we're going to say everybody holds we're not sure everybody holds we're not sure we don't know for a fact what's the difference check this out. There's one mishbuck over here. We have a donkey and a horse. The mother is a horse and they have offspring. Now that offspring, if I don't care about the father, that offspring is let him marry a horse. Why? Cuz he's a horse. I care only about the mother. If I already decided what is then about the father, oh But if we have a suffic premium also this case this case that there's a a mule that came from so that would be also so what's that what do we do at the end of the day is it not a says really says anything that was born from a a female horse even though the father is a donkey. What's the case? So we go back to picture number one. This is this is a simple case that what both fathers and both both are both donkeys. Both mothers are both a horse. Take a look at this picture for a second. Is there any problem in this picture? Could Could the offspring marry each other? Both B both mothers are horses. Both fathers are donkeys. What's the problem? The offspring is the same exact. They're identical offspring. You either call them a mule or you call them a horse. Either way, they're allowed to marry each other. Now, we're going to a new case. Check this out. Look at Mishb number one. What's number one's son going to be called? a horse. 100% pure purebred horse. Thoroughb bread number two, the mother is a horse. Oh, so this is the case. We're saying that since the mother is a horse and number two, the father is a donkey, I don't care about the father, this actually reminds me a little bit of yamus. Yamus just with horses and donkeys. Unbelievable. Okay. So what's the case? What do you see? If in this case you make a between a horse and a and a praa which the mother is a horse. What does that tell me? I don't care about number two father. He's nothing to me. What is the what is the what is that the the kala? She's a she's a thoroughbred horse. Why? They don't care about the the horse on the right. Of course, he's a horse. His father and mother are horse. So, you see that we have we have a we came to the conclusion. No, we're talking about the case the simple case that the two parents are identical. The mothers are horses. The fathers are Yeah. Maybe these guys cannot get married. Why? Because maybe the 50% of him is he gets married to 50% of the the horse and his 50% that is a horse is getting married to 50% isamar. Let's see what it came out with here. Oh 50% horse is getting married to the 50% and that's a problem says gosh maybe that's the what maybe I'm coming to tell you then in this case this case it's a third men there's something called a horse something called a donkey something called a mule and then mules allowed to marry mule it's a new a new thing we it's not a horse marrying a mule a horse marrying a donkey it's a mule marrying a mule You have a mule that wants to have children or whatever. So you not make a with a horse or a donkey. Remember that it's important words only with her own. She can marry another mule. And if it's so simple to you that I don't care about the father, figure out who her mother is and get let's say her mother is a horse. Let's say her mother's a horse. The father's a donkey. So give her a sh with a horse cuz you I only go by the mother not by the father. I do care about the father. It happens to be I don't know. I I found a mule. I bought a mule on the market. I don't know if her father is a if the mother was a donkey or the mother was a horse. I don't know. Oh, the problem is it says I told you to remember those words. It says elamino. You should marry off with with her with her. So you do know. So the point is if you know you're right, but you don't know. She says check out what's the problem. Take any mule and you'll see whether or not the mule is a horse or the mule is a donkey. How? If it has a very thick voice, it's a donkey. It's the son of a donkey. If it has a very thin ask everybody, you can tell what it is. If it has a voice like this, like that, if it has very large ears and has a small tail, you should know it's a donkey. Oh, so the sh is we could just look at the ear. If he has small tail, he's a horse. This horse can't scream. Doesn't have a voice. It doesn't have a tail. Doesn't have ears. You can't tell. Oh, so when we go back to this case pre meaning you have just one and they had a per you're allowed to marry the same or you're not allowed to now we're saying you're not allowed to marry a horse this is no good why why is this no good the mother is a horse why can you marry a horse the answer is because I'm concerned about the father is a donkey so what do you see We have that what I'm concerned told his his when you get me these mules for the wagon. Make sure they look the same. They have the same type of size ears, tail that they're the are good. The is here. This is uh I guess a kati kati but this is to uh to plow a field together with two different animals and also the the same is would apply to a wagon to to do other with these two animals. So make sure that they're the same the same breed. You see from here he's not concerned. Why? Because if he was concerned then he would allow all mules. Why? because all mules are the same men there. But if I if he's not concerned then you have a problem of kai and also you see another thing fact is that why the the idea that you could return something to someone based on a little sim that he how do you say sim in English >> not a sign um >> a mark some sort of uh telling sign a telling side >> characteristic. >> Okay. Identifying marker. That's a thing because over here we're talking about based on on the size of a ear or whatever we're we're allowing it to happen says that applies to climb. means two different types of behemoths like a goat and a sheep or is a whole that we're going to have but basically this is the the basic one that we're talking about we're going to see is what a k is some say it's its own breed it's something different but some say no it comes from a goat and a and a deer is the goat the father mother that's the soy But what's interesting about one parent is a one parent is a it's very different argues and he says no when it's two then you have a problem again what's the idea let's go back you know ah a mother and her son according to won't cheat. We pass father and a son. But that only applies to not to the over here is a problem cuz he's 50%. So maybe he's not this. He says the the two beah says yes that is because regardless I don't care how you look at it even if the father is a goat the mother is a goat doesn't matter but it's a it's a but why because we're going to have to see the holds we're going to see That's the whole what's the case. All right. So, um it's unfortunate but because we have this really here and it's getting late. Have a wonderful week. >> Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today. mdysponsor.com or sponsor at mdy.com.