CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 7 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] >> Good morning RABBI BOYS SIDE. WE LEARN IN Maseches Shabbos Mordechai. Rabbi boys said we have a tremendous daf. Hey, Rebbi Shimon ben Zeirus. A big chosid of a man, his name was Rebbi Shimon ben Zeirus, ben chomo Rebbi Shimon ben Meir. He was the son of Rebbi Meir's father-in-law. In other words, he was his brother-in-law. Rebbi Shimon ben Zeirus is Rebbi Meir's brother-in-law. Not a simple man. He gave testimony in front of Rebbi. He tells Rebbi, "I saw with my own eyes how Rebbi Meir shochal al hashulchan. He ate a leaf of vegetables without giving ma'aser in Beis She'an." Beis She'an, not like today, Beis She'an is outside of Eretz Yisrael, close to Eretz Yisrael. And I saw Rebbi Meir eating some leaf without taking ma'aser. As the Gemara is going to describe later on, if he testifies, he knows it's not Maybe Rebbi Meir did it and he didn't pay attention. Maybe Rebbi Meir whispered something. No, no, no, no. He's testifying. This is Rebbi Shimon ben Zeirus. He knows what he's talking about. And he's testifying that in that Beis She'an is not is not Eretz Yisrael. Like La Maslul, like Eilat. Like like right outside, like you don't have to take ma'aser over there. Chutz La'aretz. It's Chutz La'aretz. What about Sefas Emes? So, just just to give you to to spoil it for you, Beis She'an was once Eretz Yisrael. When Klal Yisrael came into Eretz Yisrael the first time out of Mitzrayim, they captured it, they conquered it, it became Eretz Yisrael. The second time around, when they had to do it again, when they came back from Bavel, they did not conquer it. And therefore, it's possible that in this time, when Rebbi Meir ate it, it wasn't it wasn't considered Eretz Yisrael. You don't have to take ma'aser. Rebbi hears this testimony. The hit the Rebbi is Beisan Kulal Yoled. Based on this testimony of an individual, he says, "From today on, Beisan is Chuslar." End of story. You don't have to take ma'aser from there. Chaver all of what happens typically when this happens is something like that. Try Try to Try to pasken now. Uh certain city in Eretz Yisrael is not What's going to happen? The dayanim are going to come out. It's going to be paskened. He's one of the dayanim. Mean what? Nobody Nobody could take Nobody's like, "I'm the godol." Chaver all of Echav u'Veis Aviv, his his his all his his brothers, his his fathers mishpacha Amarloi Makom Shavei Sechora, Avosav Sechora, "What do you What Why are you starting something new? Your fathers, your forefathers nogu b'isser. They all took ma'aser over there at the tinok b'heter. What do you What do you come from? Like all of a sudden making up a new halacha?" Doresh L'Haim Mikra Zeh. Rebbi says, "No, no, no. I I get it. And then I think about it. I should have had my chart again. Rebbi and Avosav Sechora, these are all Gedolei Yisrael and R'Yael and all these, you know, big people. Doresh L'Haim Mikra Zeh. He says, "I You find something similar in the Torah, in the Navi, where things didn't happen for generations. Comes somebody in the new generation and takes charge and changes a certain thing. Where do we see it? V'Chitas Nachash Han'choshes. Try to say it 10 times in a row. V'Chitas Nachash Han'choshes. >> [laughter] >> There was the the the the the copper the copper snake in the time of Moshe Rabbeinu. People were dying. Hashem says, "Make a snake. They look up to Shamayim. They see the the Tzuras Hashem Hakadosh Baruch Hu and they do teshuvah, and they stop dying. So, people over the generations, they like this copper snake. It's not a real snake. It's not a It's not a cobra. It's a It's It's something that that symbolizes a healing and then and connection to the ribono shel olam. It's a nice thing. I should also mention that the yomim meheima, until those days how you been Israel mikatmu, unfortunately, people went looking to the next step. It was good in one generation. The next generation all of a sudden becomes about meifas, the snake, and people start bringing things to this uh They start traveling from all over the world to toward the snake. Vayikra lenahustan. So, Chizkiyahu, the kitas nachash nachushes, Chizkiyahu the king, a big tzaddik, son of a big rasha, he starts breaking the snake. He breaks the snake, and he and he and he puts the snake down. He calls it nehushtan. Uh a copper thing, like lashon of bizayon. He says there's no It has no value. In Yiddishkeit, this snake is a nothing. Klal Yisrael looked up to it. Moshe Rabbeinu had a trick that they should look up to shamayim through the snake, but the snake itself is not a healer. Hakodesh Baruchu is the healer. Let's break it. It's causing too much tzaros in Klal Yisrael. People are going and and then they're they're they're worshiping it. So, Rebbe says, "Efra Bo Asa, the Rebbe Aaron, Chizkiyahu's great-grandfather, I don't even know how many generations, but great great great grandfather, Asa, was a tzaddik, destroyed a lot of avodah zarah. Why didn't he destroy this piece of avodah zarah? Vayoshafat, [clears throat] Asa's son, we had him yesterday. Right? Yehoshafat, the the tzaddik. Rebbe Aaron, how come Yehoshafat didn't do what you're doing? Min hagaviasani beis din, like who are you? Today, all of a sudden, Rebbe, you you decide and now Rebbe Hisda you decided to break stuff. between us and Yeshafat they destroyed everything. If you think this is avodah zarah, they should What are you greater than them? So, what happened after they decided to have on the top? Yeshafat and also they they gave something they left something over for their grandson to they break through it. Oh, what does that mean? It's avodah zarah. So, you have to say the pshat is they didn't do it deliberately. They missed it. They No, no, no, that's not what I'm saying. It wasn't avodah zarah. They they it was an oversight on their part. So, Hakadosh Baruch Hu did it that somebody else could have something. You can't take everything for yourself. Afani Makam Enihu La'avodah Zarah Gadol Be'oi. says Rebbe I who wrote the Mishna She just said the Mishna but I needed I need something to to be great with. So, my greatness that my my forefathers they left me Bet She'an. I took care of Bet She'an. I said it's it's Chutz La'aretz. In this case Rebbe Yoshua ben Zeira says something that seems very off. He's coming trying to say that a city that we were knowing it's not Eretz Yisrael. He's coming and saying that it's not Eretz Yisrael. What what's the first reaction? Your first reaction should be kick him out of here. Take him, tie him down and tell him retract immediately. We say he's shotim. Retract. [clears throat] We don't We don't force him to retract. So, now we have three lashonot that mean the same thing. It's just they're very similar. It's a play on words. But Amilah, some people say it's not Mazikin as to retract, it means Em Mazikin Oiso. You don't ignore him. He comes, take him seriously. Sometimes a talmid it comes in and says [clears throat] a silly thing. Your first reaction is to to to laugh at him. No. Don't ignore him. By I'm a law, ain't Maschile noise. Don't say, "Oh, what about guy by comes in here?" Ah, what's been yak. He says that it's who are you? Generations we know what they're just wrong. Rebbe took it seriously. A Rebbe changed it based on his testimony. Man I'm a seeking to see below he's a question. It's a lotion of to to separate. You shouldn't separate the the question from the kind of godly. Where's the question? Don't separate from him. Don't separate him from his push. He said this is what it is. This is my testimony. Don't don't don't force him. Well, man don't he must need him. Don't don't abandon him. The secret of he's not loyal Hashem. Hashem is not going to abandon class so even though they do terrible things. A man don't receive him it's not a rabble's who he alive from the time that there's a tremendous amount of guy by rabble we show causes my colleagues guy by causes my colleagues. Much rabbeinu with the greater greatest on of at the same time was the greatest what? Greatest ball tire. Had the most tire. Like it goes together that another and the tire. Masculine review the brother passing. So Rebbe who the brother passing has a question. Making a bundle on my beshala marriage is really what are you talking about? How could Rebbe say the China's not a real stroll? Book see below so if you have a pencil I would just put it in because it's over here means they didn't um how do you say the guy arrest? They chase out to drive out to expel. Oh. They didn't expel. Below he mean ashes beshan. I shall took over beshan. Below he they didn't expel the guy in from there. But it says that they they captured beshan. That's been a sale. That's kind of a sale and all the accompanying little shtetlakh that are all around it. So it's it's a kasha? He he missed He missed a a simple thing that Reb Shimon bar Elazar said in the name of Reb Elazar bar Pedas. Shmuel bar Shmuel Reb Elazar bar Shmuel. So if you you heard this last night, don't jump in here. I want to point something out, something interesting. Who is Reb Elazar bar Pedas? Who says it in the name of Reb Elazar bar Shmuel? Who are these two people? Super interesting. Reb Elazar bar Pedas is What? He's an Amora. Right. Reb Elazar bar Pedas is the official Amora called Reb Elazar. Every time it says Reb Elazar as an Amora Cuz sometimes you see him arguing with another Amora, so you know he's an Amora. He lived in different generations. So that's Reb Elazar bar Pedas. The the the official Reb Elazar, when it says Amar Reb Elazar, it's Reb Elazar bar Shmuel, who's a Tanna. Here you have both of them in one sentence, and it says the names. It's It has to say the names because it can't say Reb Elazar Shmuel bar Shmuel Reb Elazar. So it says Reb Elazar bar Pedas, the Amora, the famous Amora Reb Elazar. Yeah, cuz sometimes an Amora is usually called Rav Elazar, but sometimes it's called Reb Elazar when they live in Eretz Yisrael, etc. So Reb Elazar bar Pedas, and they say in the name of Reb Elazar bar Shmuel. Beit She'an was captured in the first round when Klal Yisrael came out of Mitzrayim. But later on, but like Kishon River Babel, Beit She'an is one of these cities that were not recaptured. So what's the difference? Because so by our Kedusha we show that Kishon the Shat River Kishon River Lo River do not have a trauma on me now, cuz we're going into Haggadah in 10 seconds. It's a one-minute thing. There's something called Kedusha forever and Kedusha not forever. The first time around when they came in, the Kedusha didn't last. So Beitz Shan had a Kedusha, it was part of Eretz Yisrael, but it didn't last. Klal Yisrael, unfortunately, went to goals. They went to Babel. When they came back to Ba- from Babel, then whatever they captured lasted. But guess what? They didn't recapture Beitz Shan. So Beitz Shan at one point, oh, it says in the pasuk, they captured Beitz Shan. You're right, they captured it the first time around. But they didn't capture the second time around, so it didn't have a Kedusha the second time around. Why didn't they capture the second time around? It's right there. Why didn't they capture it? They had a very good reason. They needed a way for the poor people to survive Shmita. If nobody's planting cuz it's assur for you to plant, what do you do? So you have Chutz L'Aretz, Yevul Yevul Chul. It's right there and next to Eretz Yisrael. We didn't We don't capture it, so that's a law of Chutz L'Aretz. And now I can plant in Shmita. Now the poor people have what to eat. I think you're you're thinking that Beitz Shan is in the center of Eretz Yisrael. And they didn't capture it, so they it's like a No, it's on the outskirts of Eretz Yisrael. It's like Eilat. Think about it as Eilat. They didn't go as far as Eilat. They decided to stop right here, so that stayed outside. They could have the first time they went further, and the second time they didn't. All of that will be really zero of our mayor. All of that will be just a simple question, a few questions until we get into that. God knows. Rebbe Meir, what did he eat? He ate a leaf. You're allowed to eat a leaf. You only have to First of all, yeah, uh What What are you chayav on Trumah and Ma'aser mid'Oraisa? Only you doggone tiers feeds are wheat, wine, and oil. But besides that, he ate as you're eating If you're eating achilas arai, you're you're picking There's a There's a tomato that didn't have a a g'mar melacha. What's a g'mar melacha? You make a a pile and you smooth it out. You put it into a package. He grabbed He's eating a kilo sari. It's not a maaser. [snorts] Remember all of He didn't even eat a tomato. He ate a leaf. or my lay No, no, we're talking about maaser now. Nothing to do with shmita. That's something else. That Don't mix the two. We're talking about maaser. The maaser. or my lay my good actually he ate it from a package. It was already It was already tied together as one and that's it. That's the maaser was not your nagad If it's the type of vegetable that typically speaking you put together in a package mishiyagi so once you tie them together it's a maaser. Okay, fine. That's this is that guy that right here. This is this what leads us into the full everything until the end of this year is a guy that the maybe mayor simply wasn't paying attention and he grabbed something off a plate and he forgot to take maaser. Oh, that's impossible. If the animal of as the is going to talk about what happened doesn't allow the animal to eat without maaser or if mayor himself he's going to eat without taking maaser. So that's the third time we have that that story and the is going to have to explain us what the story is. But the maacher and maybe he had in mind I have a package of tomatoes at home so when I get home I'm going to use one of those tomatoes as maaser. Meanwhile I'm going to eat this. No, impossible. He he's a he's a person he's a who's on maaser he's on tahara. He wouldn't do that. He wouldn't take something that's not next to the perish right here. That's be next to it. So the maacher walk the other way. You don't have to be mafresh truma maaser. You don't have to separate it. You can look at a a bunch of fruit and look the ones on the right I'm I'm going to use as truma maaser. The one on the left I'm going to eat. Maybe that's what happened. Maybe he did truma maaser on the spot. This is Rebbi Shimon ben Zeira's. If he says he saw, he saw. He knows what he's talking about. If that's what happened, Rebbi Meir was looking over there and he did over there, Rebbi Shimon ben Zeira would have noticed it. He knows all the tricks. He's done it himself. He knows what's mutar what's assur. It's impossible that he was saying this this whole uh the whole uh nusach of the Chazon Ish on truma maaser and he didn't notice. He would have noticed. You know you know if if the Brisker Rav is taking truma maaser or not. It's not maybe. That's not what happened. Fine. So just remember this because I want to point out the uh Maharsha on the base. The din of maaser eno betzad zeh v'ochal betzad acher. Maybe you look at a plate and you say to yourself, "Okay, the truma maaser I'm going to take from these two on the left side on the right side and then I'm going to eat from the left side." There's such a thing. Says the Gemara here's the story. My Rabbenu Tam is sitting, "What's going on here? This beheima that didn't wasn't nichshal on truma maaser." Says the Gemara the story, the Rebbi Pinchas ben Yair have a call to the opinion shvuyim. He was going to redeem somebody. Paga bei biginoy nahara. So he's is walking with his donkey to do pidyon shvuyim and he and he There's a river in front of him. Amar lei, Ginoy, tells the river, "Ginoy, Krias Yam Suf. I want Krias Yam Suf as Mana Zeh." Chalakni meim Yamma I want to get to go through. Amar lei, so the the river, the sar of the river, responds to him, "Ata hoilech l'hatzil es shvuyim k'ein Kriyas Yam Suf. Guess what? Who says you're better than me? You're going to do a great mitzvah of pidyon shvuyim. V'ani hoilech l'hatzil es shvuyim k'ein Kriyas Yam Suf. What I do every day that the water goes through and goes through? All I'm doing is what I shall. After so many years of God I who knows if you'll be successful maybe they won't accept your your redemption. And if I do what I'm doing is I need to continue doing what I shall. >> [clears throat] >> You may have to say you threaten him. You have no choice over here. If you don't split the water you can do what I shall for the next 5 minutes but that's it. You're going to be done for life. If it's up to me I can stop you forever. So if you want to do what big dog you want to do what I shall open up right now. Okay. That's it. Sounds it sounds it sounds scary. So you open the sea of souls. with him doing a mitzvah. Sleeping wheat for matzah. I want you to open up the water again for this for this guy. The mitzvah he's doing a mitzvah. Opens. There was one Arab dude who was with them. There was one Arab dude who was with them. Like accompanying them helping them out showing them the way. I want you to open the water for him. Oh look at these Jews when they need them they they use them but as soon as they don't need them they dump them on the side on the other side of the river. I don't need a mirror. Open up the waters. Split the river. Split the river. Look at him. is greater than and 600,000 people that are what's going on here? We know the greatest miracle that ever happened and I mean from the greatest I'm not judging the the numbers. We have a whole seder about it and and then many generations later he says that was before I shall once we have the we are coming from a different position. He's coming from position of full of mitzvahs Torah, different. It's easier. The has him now. Moshe Rabbeinu was only able to do it once. Over here, Rebbe Akiva did three times. Ela kemoi she did it one Maybe it means to say that it was he was as great as not greater, as great as Moshe Rabbeinu and 600,000 Yidden. The kids there the maaseh continues like a little shpitzel. He gives them then Rabi Elazar today they're like uh you know refuel your car, over there they refuel your donkey, they give him a barley. Lo yochal. He refused to eat. Khaftinu. So at the first time I read it, I thought it meant like they beat him up. Khaftinu Rashi says means they did nipui. They took they they just they took the barley and they separated it. They thought maybe the it's not good quality. Rashi says it's impossible that it means that they separated the shaft from the they sifted it but on a simple level to make it better to eat because it has to be that it was chayev b'maaser. Otherwise this whole story wouldn't exist. And [clears throat] it won't be chayev b'maaser if it's in the first uh stage of where you have to separate the shaft it's not edible. We're talking about it's edible. Just what maybe it wasn't the best so put it through a a sifter of barley, you know, the ready made barley. Just make sure there's no stones in there. Lo yochal. He wouldn't eat from it. Nakri so they said okay maybe there's some with their hands they went they looked through it to see what's going on. Lo yochal he still didn't eat. Omer Rebbe Akiva sees what's going on here. Dilma maaser. Is it possible he didn't take maaser? Asri nu v'ochal. He went ahead he took maaser and he ate. The donkey ate. The donkey ate. They took maaser from this barley and the donkey started eating. Omer ani zu this donkey this poor donkey alecha she going she's going [clears throat] to do pish. pigeon swim. But then I can't believe what you just did. Try to feed her. Yeah, what do you mean what is a donkey to eat something that has my server none? If somebody purchases the might. Now obviously if you're going to purchase food from a store, I don't care who you give it to you can give it to your animal you have to take my stuff on it. But if you're going to purchase the might. Which is. Food that you buy from an Amara and you're not sure if you took my service so then it depends if I purchase it specifically for animal feed. Then you bought the if it's all stuff for side things to flower for your hides or oil to do your for your your your light or to dishes but but you don't have to you don't have to take my stuff. So we're also if he bought the this this fruit. The this barley. For the animals she's butter. So it's my says. Read my law. I'm going to be a wish to clean the behima. That's because if you purchase it initially. For the animal I will be near if you bought it for your own consumption and then you decided you you wanted barley for your children you said you know I have a bunch of barley let me give it to my animal then it's too late then I have my stuff. I just love this lotion and tighten this top top tighten this. The market national. The donkey is butter. The donkey is butter with my stuff but the donkey is a market come on market so I'm going to be a blessing but I don't know if you have a pencil you should write the word right above the word of a Tanya it's not a question it's a right here but Tanya. If you take food from the marketplace to eat but then you later on you decide to give to your animal do not use it for your animals you must you must take my sir. Show my Rabbi Rabbi heard that Rabbi is coming but not a glove but he ran out towards him. All my ladies please do me a favor. I want you to come eat by me. I'm going to hang she says sure I'll come eat. So I will put on as we're going to see at the end of the story Rabbi has a minute he doesn't eat by anybody. He said yes to Rabbi but Rabbi is called a dark wealthiest man in the generation greatest Godel Sadiq Rabbi college Rabbi is so excited. Oh my life what are you so happy? What do you think I'm his mother I know I'm not going to eat by him of course I'm going to eat by you. The college >> [cough] >> So there's a married to this here. Every but we do every this. I'll just do one more line and then I'll read the this. Yesh he says yesh to my life. There are many people who want to invite people but they don't have. Says I hope I have it here. Yeah this the lucky to do this Why are they considered if they don't invite you? The fact that he just invites you he says please come to me and then you say no no no I'm not finished and you say okay fine I'm not finished but you don't want you want him to say I'm not finished. What? Yeah. Yes yes okay fine sorry. Yes yes there are people who have but they're just too stingy and they don't want don't come don't eat bread with somebody that has a bad eye stingy don't have a type of his unbelievable foods. and after he came in has a bitterness in his in his neshama. He's going to tell you come come eat he's not with you. Yeah, he says he's a college cuz you eat by him and he doesn't really want you there but he still has a good show cuz he invited you out of embarrassment. That's the right way to go. But you ready I know you have you have the the ability you're the wealthiest man in the generation and you also want me to be it. Me I'm I'm on a very big and very big rush the Muslim I got to run get this guy out of captivity. When I get back on the way back I'll come and do what do you think it happened on the way back? What do you think? Did he you think you think you ever made it there? Cuz that's the side. You have the inspiration now you got to you got to act on it now. You never know what's going to happen on the way back on the next day the next who knows who knows. He also say he's on his way back he's a man of his word. It's a rami he it happened all by this is rami is a big word is rami just happened it's not just happened cuz he was mad that should happen that what he took the wrong door. All by could be also also. A bunch of pitbulls and and Doberman Pinschers white donkeys the worst of the worst these white donkeys are killers. Omar Malcolm always be busy in the video when he says Malcolm always be busy you'll understand it's confusing all of a sudden it turns into Malcolm always. He has animals of death over here dangerous stuff outside of his house but he also is like you think I'm going to eat by him. Show my ready. Ready heard it that he's refusing to come in. Novigrad, he ran after him. Omar is a new what's the problem? I'm going to sell them. Omar you're not allowed to sell them because you're going to you're creating a stumbling block for somebody else. Mafkanolos, I'll give make them hefker. Mafshaza, what do you mean hefker? You're going to have these white donkeys running around the streets killing hundreds of people. Mafshaza you're making more hazard. I can I can do something. I can chop off the bottom of the hooves, whatever. They're not going to be dangerous. It can tie up a but that is going to create a fire for the animal. Katrina So what should be the answer? I'll kill them. So what should be the answer? No, there's no time to kill them when you kill an animal. You see it you saw it. If you if you kill them humanely, there's no time to kill them. Just what is another problem? I can bow to ashes. You're you're getting rid of something that has value. Did I say donkey? They're not These are not donkeys. These are mules mules. I have to come to you too. Say you know you didn't give up. He asked him again and again. Go to the terminal. So miracle mountain just went in between them and that was a protected him. Rebbi Valma, Rebbi started crying. My kind of car because helped out of his yard he shouldn't come to my house. He saw the mules. He went in the wrong door. A lot has come to come. So certainly when after they die a protects them. The only thing is they didn't enjoy their life. They didn't give up greater in their death more than in their life. Shinema the him mish. They were in the middle of burying a Russia. We hear the road is out of the wood and all of a sudden they see the the army of my have coming. They actually become a leader of the famous story. They dropped the body in the they used to bury in a cave so it was open and they threw the body into the cave by a yellow and this Russia touches a Alicia. And he touches the bones of Alicia. The Russia wakes up. By your camera right now. So what do you see from here? This is a mason by touching Elisha. But when when Elisha was alive with the Benashu Nami he had to do something. He had to put his hands and all he lied on him breathed the whole thing. And over here is this the touch. So you see that he's greater when he's dead. I want to have a lot of money and baby because of the Leo. Leo and he gave Elisha broke that he's going to be he's going to do double the mason as himself. And Leo and he did one mason. The Siva you know he is nine broke when you see me go up then you'll know you'll have doubles me. MMA law the reason why he woke up at amazing wasn't Elisha's horses Leo and his horse. I'm going to lay you out in the diner rag love my little baby love. What kind of what kind of broke is it? What kind of amazing is it if he didn't even get to go to his house. So it says like this. I'll be my kind. So but but how how was it that there was that that Elisha did two mason. Says the number of Shuriba Naman. She's cool to maze. If you remember yesterday we had this the says there's a that was a narrow. You know it says the contradictions. What does the say? She was the minor in. This is the that told this he was the the general of Aram. He had he says why don't you try Elisha? He's going to heal your Shuriba Naman. So that's a mason. She's cool to maze cuz somebody has like a dead person. I'll not see maze. So you see in the tire of the tire consider someone with a dead person. Have a wonderful day. Merit this host of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a share today. mdy.sponsor.com or sponsored.mdy.com [music]