CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 46 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] >> Good morning ramboys. I I got to CALL THIS RAMBOYS. >> [cheering and screaming] >> MAZEL TOV. MAZEL TOV RAMBOYS. Ramboys I here we go. I take a good We're holding six lines from the bottom of the base. We're going through the anatomy of an animal. Fascinating stuff. Just like a human being an animal even a bird has a spinal cord. Spinal cord runs in the spine. It's protected beautifully on all sides by bony material that's flexible. It transfers Talking like I know what I'm talking about. I don't. There's a nerves a nervous system that that runs from the brain and goes all the way to the tail of the animal. So at what point of the of the spinal cord could you cut it and not damage the animal? Omar at ben aparoshis. So look This is what I worked on with Yoshi the colors and the whole thing. This ben aparoshis. But I'll show you this live here. This is what I did from that. I took that and I made it into this. So the spinal cord goes from the head goes all the way down all the way to the tail. These are the paroshis. These these guys. This is where it starts splitting off. It splits off before these are the main splits. The first one occurs by the hind leg. Like two fingers later there's another split and then another split. Every time it splits it gets the the the spinal cord gets weaker and weaker. The first one is this blue one. The first you come here obviously if you cut the spinal cord in this area treif treif treif. But when you get to this area the blue this ben aparoshis. Bane means between. Between the first parsha parasha and the second one. between the two splits. This area is no good. Now, the Gamara is going to ask right away, do I mean ad ad b'chlav? The Gamara asks this all the time and it gets, you know, throws people into a frenzy. So, don't worry, it's only last for 35 seconds. It just means does it mean up until the first until the the blue or it's up until purple? It includes [snorts] the area between or only up until? So, Rabbi Elazar Shmuel ad ben aprashas. Rav Dimi bar Yitzchak ben Yisrael ben Chuzai Rav Rav Yisrael bar Rav Dimi went to Be Chuzai. Also, came in the Rav Yehuda. He went to see Rav Yehuda. Omare Likvidi mar ben aprashas heicho. Could you please show me exactly the area of between the aprashas? Show me on an animal. Omare le, he says zil itzli gidi, go get me a goat and I'll show you. Vak viloch. Itzli gidi shamen. So, he thought, oh, let me spend a little money. Let me do it right. Let me get a nice gezunta, as they say, a a festa or a fat goat. Omare le, so he brings him this nice goat. Omare le, beliyant fei velo yediya. No, no, no, this is too much fat. It's hard to to to discern, to see the How do you say pitzul in English? >> Split. >> The split. It's hard to see these splits, where the where the cord splits. Now, the reason why these arrows are in the wrong direction, I did a It was a mistake probably in terms of I asked Yossi to flip it because I want to get to the point here. There's a point. But, that's why people might be confused a little bit. It's It's going this way. It's bad. We should really turn the Okay, fine. This is good. I see now that visually it's a confusing. Itzli So, he goes out to the store again. Itzli he goes and gives him a gets him a skinny one. Oh, if the fat is no good cuz you can't discern, you can't see it. So a skinny one you'll probably see it. I'm going to say, "No, no, no, that's also not good. Say what you do." We learned about the book of the atma that that that ball and the bearing. What do we call the ball and the socket? So so the the the spinal cord runs down that ball and socket and because it's it has no no fat, it it like gets uh squished into it. Is that that's a word? All right. It it gets gets so you can't see it. I'm going to say, so Rashi says he was he was very he was in a big rush. Rabbi you need to get out of there. I'm going to say, "Tell me what you want. Let me just tell you what I learned. Forget forget the visuals. Let me just tell it to you. Tell me what you want." So we're going again from the head we're going in this direction until number one is straight for up to this point up to the blue 100% straight for if it gets cut. Right. The red one, everything behind that is is kosher. The second one the second one the purple I don't know. But I don't know what I'm going to do. Now we have to know that from number one up up to number one is kosher. When he said up until did he mean up until the blue line is straight but past the blue line is a fact or past the blue line until the purple is actually straight for 100%. He meant one one means from the blue line all the way to the purple is all considered one. It's the one area. From purple all the way to red is the two area. From red all the way to the tail is the three area. Is that what he meant or no? Up until the red, up until purple, up until blue. >> [clears throat] >> I don't know what I'm going to do. Maybe it's up until the blue point is straight for 100% from the blue until the purple now is a fact. From the red on is 100% kosher. And the the second one I don't know. That's why I messed up and I made these funny looking arrows because the point this point the point is the point. When I'm coming from here when I bump into this little point this triangle is this treif or not? I need to know what about in the area of the blue? It's a up until is excluding the blue where? Where's the Where's it 100% treif? But I'll ask you more if it if it includes this entire area between the blue and the purple if this is treif 100% what about on the actual cord going up and going down on the blue cord? Is this treif or not? It says "Tashma ha-parasha ke-basar." This the actual blue the actual purple the actual red is is like the flesh. And if it's like flesh it's it's kosher it's not treif. He says "No no no no no no." My life referring even to the blue and the purple that it's kosher "Loy." What I meant that it's meat is only the third one the red. And that we're done with the spinal cord. Boyfa what about in a bird? This gets interesting. A bird also has a spinal cord. Take a look at a bird. Look at the bird. Now [clears throat] the reason why he was showing the wings fold is very important because that's part of the sugiya. Boyfa Rab Yana amar le-matah min ha-agafayim. Not So let's take a look at the bird again. The bird you see its wing is connected at one point. So one shita is at that point. Rashba says from the brain you go from the rooster's head come down and when it hits that point where the where the where the wing attaches to the body that's where it's a treifa. Everything below that point if you cut the set you sever the spinal cord, it's kosher. The next sheet is Now, look at this. I didn't know this. But obviously those who eat chicken or deal with chickens like Benny this possible and has three bends. It has three joints this this bird. Not like a similar to an animal's leg, you know, it has not like a human that only we only have two bends. And and and we have the that that the ankle. But he has like three serious bends over here. Take a look. And then Maylo he says it's the whole >> [music] >> So it's until the end of the wing, the bone of the wing, not the feathers of the wing, but the bone. So until the red arrow. So you look at the spinal cord coming down the head until the red arrow. You should mark. Meaning until the red arrow. And again, if you want to argue exactly on these this is just to like the most I was able to understand it and you might argue it's a little different, okay? First look at the shoulder mark at the vein of the body. Exactly the connection to the to the body which is at the blue arrow. I was standing says Ula in front of Ben Pazi and they brought a bird bird to him. Ubadak at Ben Agapaim. They had this problem so he checked until the joint, the blue arrow. All of a sudden Ushala clay Ben Sia the the the Nasi we had yesterday Nasi. The Nasi says I need you I need you Ben Pazi immediately. He takes the chicken, puts it down on the table and walks out of the convulsor. He says it's a real shame. Because I don't know if it's because he was done checking in the middle of checking the seal and perhaps he said, you know what, I'm in the middle of checking but I got to go. The Nasi is calling me. I'm sorry in the middle of checking. I'm not even going to take another 3 seconds to check the rest. I'm done. So I don't I'll never know. Next Sugya Like a rabbit. We learned in Mishnah if the liver was removed completely, it's a treif. So anybody can infer on the sh'tire him men of clue and share it. So if a little bit of the liver remains, it's kosher. Why? Because the logic will be it regenerates itself. It's the one body part that regenerates completely. I forgot the way I have to size. You don't need a full size. And if you this sounds familiar, it is because we already brought these Mishnayos and we discussed this before. But not the way I have to size and I have to size and I have to size and I have to size I'm always in the casio or maybe kill or maybe shimon bar baby. It's a micro rare of kill a hole that you're right a mash is enough. Or of shimon bar baby bar baby. Of shimon the son of reb you don't know see the son of the wealthiest man of the generation. He's as wealthy as the king. The king noise his best friend Antoninus. Antoninus He had a lot a lot of money. And his son of shimon inherited all this money. He's a wealthy kid. He holds has to be a size. Why? [clears throat] He holds Zoric law. Rub kill would throw out the liver. Rub shimon bar baby metabolaw. Rub shimon held that when you eat something that the animals in the shama is dependent on. We have a like this. Is a liver something that the shama is dependent on? Everybody knows that without a brain you can't live. Could you call a liver something that the shama is dependent on? So he says yes. And that's why he ate it. Because when you eat something that the shama is totally in it, then it it heals you. It makes you healthy. And then may law you need you need it it needs to be at least a size. It's the shama to be about. It has to be something that something worthy a size. But Rub kill says no it's garbage. You throw it out. It's not nothing. And I don't eat it. It's not the shama to be about. So it's a masho. The Rashi says it's dependent on that. Mamila should know that wealthy people are stingy. I hope the also the diso. So the the soldiers came to to Pumbedisa. Iraqu rabba This is a word that is very Everybody in shows very familiar. Iraq means somebody that's running from from the uh from the military. Iraqu rabba They ran away from the military. Paga bahurim zero. Rib zero bumped into them. Says Tices Rib zero wasn't scared. He didn't have to run away cuz his father worked for the for the king. He's in charge of the of the taxes. All my roy coin. So he calls them a You you you are AWOLers. Deserters. All my low Iraqoi. Kizai shamro So they're running for their life and he throws in a stick of Torah. Kizai shamro The mucking mara. You should just know that when we're discussing Here's a nice healthy liver. There's a liver and then you see the gallbladder. The The gallbladder The green guy is the gallbladder. It says when we say that all you need is a kazayis. So first of all, he mentions kazayis. We have a kazayis or masho. Rib zero haskins right now for for the for now it's a kazayis. But where? It has to be attached to the gallbladder. You can't just have here You see the kazayis hanging This this guy right over here is the kazayis, yeah? That kazayis and the and the the rest is the tarpish is the is the skirt steak. The sarifet the diaphragm. All that white. It is gone. The the kidney the liver is gone. What's left? One kazayis. But it must be attached to the gallbladder. Otherwise it it has no no way to live. Provided by have all my mokaim shichayo. No. It Not that it's attached to the gallbladder, but look, take a look kidney. Has to be attached to the kidney on top, right over there, like that. It has to be both like this. You have two kazayises over, you say two little kazayises. One is attached to the kidney, one is attached to the marrow. What if you don't have a kazayis in one place? You have a quarter kazayis up, a quarter kazayis down. We have a nice picture of kiritsuah. It's it's a sliver instead of a nice round ball. What if it's flattened like a pancake? It's a kazayis, but it's spread out and it's very thin. Does it have a chance to regenerate? Take a So, we have to be machmir. The The liver is attached to the diaphragm. And now it became loose. Oh, it's connected to the diaphragm, but like this. Let's call it something like that. Barely attached, you know, little slightly attached here and there. So, he says, "Amaleh, what's the big deal? Who cares?" If the is that you It has to You have to have a kazayis by the gallbladder, you have more than kazayis. You have the entire liver. It's not a problem that it's that it's slightly attached. The is that he has a large liver and it's great. If you say it has to be attached to the kidney, so now we're moving on to the lungs. Lungs is what we deal with mainly today in treifus and and and and as as gocha and mashgichim and all that. They're they're very busy with the lung. Hare yoshin Now, it happens to be that a lung has two You're not going to You're not going to know the sugia cuz you're schmoozing with him there. A lung has I'm just repeating it for you. It has two coverings, two membranes, two. That's the sugia right now. It has two. Which one is the one that makes it treif when it is punctured? Rav Shmuel Rav Asi da Amri, Kruma ila, it's the upper one that makes it treif. V'am ila kruma d'tachta, and the other one say, "No, the bottom one." Omar Rav Yosi here, we have pictures for this, all pictures. Here is the upper one. It's a little exaggerated. The bottom one looks like a bunch of ketchup in a on a hamburger. It's the red the red clothing the Gemara calls it. It's a red layer. And this is This also has a hole, but how you Okay. Fine. Mamesh schmeckt, it looks very tasty. Omar Rav Nachman b'Simanach, Kituna d'Varda, this red clothing that it that that drapes the that covers the lung, the mancha b'reia that the lung is laying in. Pshita, says the Gemara, Inki b'ila v'inki d'tachta, if the upper one had a hole like this, sorry, like this, b'inki d'tachta, and the bottom one doesn't have a hole, d'tachta magen. Why is there a second membrane? The second membrane, the bottom one protects the lung. And how do I know? The Rabbanan d'Rav Hiyya d'Iglid, Rava says that if you have a lung that you peeled off, it was peeled off, the top layer was peeled off completely, K'aina Sumka, like a red date his a red date red date Shira why This one actually has a hole but if it didn't have a hole that red date material protects the lung since it's before it's that the bottom layer is is a protector The question is in gift at all but in gift of the law like over here you have a hole and you don't have the upper one is that a problem or not? Magnum and Magnum does the bottom one since it doesn't have a it has a hole the bottom layer but the top layer doesn't have a hole is there enough protection? I'm above and base we will get to the other thing get it out of the [clears throat] ice up so this is gishmak The law is that the upper the the the upper one is not doesn't have a hole in it it it does protect the Rabbi Isaac why the Rabbi Isaac hire out the option when we were kids they don't have it anymore I don't think but you know when the our bicycle the tire used to leak air so you take out the the inner tube and you blew it up and you heard like a hissing sound and how would you find the the where the hole is? You put it in water and the smart ones would put it with a little soap for you know dishwashing soap whatever >> [snorts] >> so that trick the more talks about I read the option you hear a hissing coming out of the lung it's leaking air you had in a option I miss you God for if you see if you see exactly you you you know exactly where the sound is coming from you take a feather I write or spittle I get low you take a piece of straw if you see it moving then it's a treif of you like Shira momish like this my boys I take a look here we go >> It's more than Ashkenazi. Yeah, obviously it's not a Those who don't know, this is AI. Me and Mark Ashkenazi. If you see if you see the feather moving, great. Then it's a treif. We like treif. We like it. If you don't know where the sound is coming from, I see none You take like a vat the mayo warm water or machine you put inside. I saw here in the the pancheria, the Yossi's place, they have a a giant vat and they even have a machine that pushes the tire down underneath and you can see where the bubbles are coming from. But that's more for like semi-trailers and then and then tractors, that kind of stuff. But you don't use hot water to test because it shrivels up. You can use You don't use cold because that stiffens it. And what happens if it stiffens? It can crack. So you got to use warm water and you blow it up. In the back of the store, here here we have another one. You're invited. Check this out. >> [snorts] >> It almost looks real. >> [laughter] >> Great. >> [snorts] >> So if you have We like it. If you don't If it doesn't bubble, it's kosher. That time you give So but if the bottom one has a hole in it and the upper one not Why is it kosher? Because the bottom has a hole and not the upper one. Now, what's the problem? The after all The problem is you hear a hissing sound. So if you hear a hissing sound, there's a hole. No, I'm telling you that what happened was it's like this. Here's the hole and what you hear is the air coming out of the the lower layer and but it's getting it's protected from the upper layer. It's being trapped and therefore the upper layer is providing protection to the lung and that's why it is kosher. I'm already hired the egglet. We're holding only 55 minutes already. My mom is doing well. >> [clears throat] >> I'm already hired the egglet. I got you know, remember we mentioned that the the lung the Yeah, the lung looks like but it wasn't looks like a red date. Woah. So yum yum yum. I read the egglet guy, you know, so good share. I'm already over rationed the demo. So if the whole thing is red, fine. I'm already rationed the demo. If the if you got a bang and that's why it's red. It's also kosher if it's only uh part of it it's kosher. Cool law treif. But if it's it's a majority of the whole thing of the whole the whole lung became red, then it's a treif. I'm already over the rubber. I don't understand what you're saying. Why is a small part of it kosher the 100 barrier cuz you're going to say it got a wound. You know, you get banged and you see you see like blood. What is it called? No, it's is it the internal bleeding? The blood comes to the surface. Doesn't puncture. A bruise. So eventually the blood is going to go back to where it came from or whatever. It's Everything's going to come back to normal. So cool and I have a 100 barrier. So so if you have a wound on your entire leg with my own son, it's also going to heal. So it's on the entire lung. What's the problem? Didn't we learn from awesome? I see you sitting down. We're talking about Shabbos now. If you're going to if you're going to cause a blow or injury to an animal, it's only if you cause the blood to leave the the animal's body. But if it it's just a bruise, you're not over. I see you sitting down. That's it. So too by a law You could tell me the You know what? Let's compare it not to that, but to a rat. When it comes to the total rat, then even if the blood doesn't come out, if you could see a bruise, that's considered killing the animal. Why? Because by them, it's not going to go back to normal. The blood is stuck. It's just as if it left the body. So, maybe the lung is like the The sign in this area of That can't be. Why are you differentiating between a small amount and a large amount? By if you if you injure you bruise the leg of the rat. So, you're over. You're You don't have to do the entire body. If you tell me that the lung is like a rat, so even a small part also should be you should be over. It's not like it's not like a rat, so then the whole thing shouldn't be a problem. So, then what? There is really no difference between a small amount and a large amount, and both of them are kosher. Kosher. 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