CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 40 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] >> Good morning Rabbi boys, I We didn't shmooze in the morning this morning, hi. Reb boys, I here we go. Let me tell you something base, all the way in the top. Six lines from the top. A person shacks doesn't say anything, doesn't doesn't make any indication that it's avodah zarah. And then afterwards he thought about avodah zarah and the question is did he think avodah zarah thoughts during the shchita? This was the maaseh in Caesarea. They didn't pasken on Reb Chizda. We What what should we do? In the Mishnah it says the Rabbanan say that we don't we we don't we're not concerned for the machshavah of the owner, the If a Jew does shchita perhaps the inserted his machshavah of avodah zarah, we're not concerned. So therefore I can't say that it's ossur because I'm not concerned. And also we have the reverse we have Rebbi Eliezer in the Mishnah that says that stam machshavah of a is avodah zarah. What's the connection? What's the two different cases? In our Mishnah we never heard a word from the about avodah zarah. We don't know if he's in avodah zarah or not. By this zrikah we heard we heard him say that he wants to do zrikah for avodah zarah. Isn't this a it's obvious that he if he's thinking about avodah zarah all the way by this zrikah so he obviously had this thought of avodah zarah in the beginning by shchita. Inami or you could say "Ask in the Mishnah Eliezer says that of course he's talking about cuz we're talking about a a non-Jew, a idol worshiper." Or we could call him the stam cuz the the typical idol worshipers think about Avodah Zarah. So may law I'm going to say I'm going to insert his machshavah into the shchitah. the guy is Jewish. I can close the minute. Maybe he became a not good guy, he became an Avodah Zarahnik all the way at the end. But he wasn't he wasn't he he wasn't by the shchitah, he was not a mumar. Oh. I'm going to find a soifoi machshavah from somebody completely out different. Reish Lakish and Rabbi Meir. And in order to understand which Reish Lakish and Rabbi Meir we're going to go through two and gishmaka sooyas. Again, a person shachted a Jew. At the end he said it's Avodah Zarah. Did he mean this all the way in the beginning when he when he shachted? And you can see from Reish Lakish and Rabbi Meir that you say, "If you find something out at the end, it indicates what his thought process was in the beginning." Hey Reish Lakish and Rabbi Meir, which one is it? Either Reish Lakish and Rabbi Meir the gettin, we find this by the get. Famous story in Maseches Gittin is not a body shall kiss will get leash. Somebody was healthy. It's not showing any signs of of disease. He's a regular healthy guy and he says, "Write a get to my wife." What's missing here in this loshon? He doesn't say tnu, he doesn't say give. He says write. >> [cough and clears throat] >> And they go ahead and they write. They even give. No, not a good get. Rotzo lesachek bah. He's playing games with her. He's joking around. She's begging for a get. Why is she begging for a get? Because she had a brother-in-law over for a Shabbos meal and it wasn't good. It wasn't good. The guy hasn't showered in 3-4 weeks. He's socially off. He's not He's not what she's looking for. And she's [clears throat] worried. She's very worried. She has this behind She's worried this guy, her own her husband, is going to die and look what's going to happen. It's going to be a disaster. So, she begs her husband for a get. She says, "In order" She She talks so much. She begs so much, as Rashi She keeps on talking. She says, "Get off my back. Here, here, I'm going to Here, kiss you know, write a get for my wife." Sometimes a husband plays games. It's a good game. You want a divorce? Yeah, I'll give you a divorce. Baruch Hashem, getting a divorce. No. Joking around. There's a story. Listen to the story. Terrible story. He tells the Adam, he says, "Go ahead and write a get for my wife." And they gave it to the to her. They listened. He goes up to the roof and he and he dies. Oh. Oh, here it's coming. Oh, my Reb Shimon ben Gamliel. Let's understand what happened. What's the story? And based on what happened with this fall we will know that 2 days ago when he said kiss will get listi, was he serious or was he joking? And that's the case of From the end of the story, let's see the entire story and by the end we could understand his thought process. >> They gave it before he died. >> They gave it before he died. I said they gave it. Yeah, they gave it and then he fell and he died. You can't give a get after you die. Right, that's 100%. It doesn't Adam cannot give. So, says the Gamara, "Emas, if he jumped off the roof, how is it a get? Then it's obvious, why did he tell the Adam kiss the get history?" And he forgot to say the words "to new". Cuz he was he was planning something terrible. Maybe that's what he does. The Maruach the Katori in a get. But if some other thing happened, you could tell that he didn't jump, he fell off by mistake, then it's a get. No, no, sorry, it's not a get cuz obviously he didn't want to he didn't want to divorce his wife. He didn't want to he didn't want to die. He had no reason. So why did he say to new get kiss the get uh Russell Saki boy, he wanted to to to to keep her quiet, stop begging for a get. The Maruach my sister, what are you giving me a story of a guy that fell off a roof? And that's a that's a contradiction to what we said before. Because before we said that if a person says "Write a get to my wife" and he didn't say the words "to new", it's not a get and doesn't say over there, "Oh, well, it depends if he committed suicide or not." It doesn't say where it depends. It's not a get, finished. So the Gamorah says Maxero, it's obvious what was going on over there. The Gamorah says it's a get. It depends. If there's a clear indication at the end of the story what this individual was intending, did he really mean for a get? Then it's a good get. The Maruach Maruach and I'll even prove it to you from a story show my kiss the get history while the guy fell off a maze. When the Gamorah says Maxero, it doesn't mean that literally words are missing. It just means those who understand understand. And for the guys that need a little help and explanations, I'll explain it to you. It's obvious when I say a story like that at the end, I'm not coming to contradict myself. I'm coming to explain myself. And I'm I'm adding another caveat. Is that a word? >> Yeah, good. >> There's another there's another there's another little piece over here that's missing. There's another >> It's like a footnote in the arts girl. >> Oh, like a footnote in the arts girl. You should have understood by yourself. Give all of it. That what? >> [clears throat] >> If this was intended, you see that the guy had a very serious plan here. He There's a There's a husband here. Get on Sunday, jump off the roof on Monday. It goes together. So, the jumping off the roof has to do with with writing the get. I'm going to show you I'm going to show you Imagine if all there is a get. If he jumped, it's a get. Says the Gamara, what's the riot from this case? The The cipher cipher I can't tell us the end shows what he was in what his intent was in the beginning is different than our case. What happened in our case? The guy was quiet during the shita. And by the shita, step two, all of a sudden he starts talking about the shita. And we want to know did he mean that also by the shita? Over here it's different. Over here a guy says, "Write a get to my wife." Now, you're saying that he didn't really mean it. He was He's faking. He's joking. But, he did step two. And from step two you see he wasn't joking. Okay, but there was a step one. Step two and step one go together. Over here, he never said anything. You don't know what he meant. And just because there was an indication he started talking about the shita in step two doesn't mean that he meant that in step one. You're right. Okay, fine. We're moving on. It's another Gamaliel, the second. The guy is about to die. The guy is about to die. The guy is about to die. The guy is about to die. Even not about to die. But, let's say he's dying. Even in a sukkah. So, he's he's getting ready. He's he's he's uh How do they say? Taking care of business like he's He's uh he's He's organizing. He's organizing his affairs. Exactly. Mom is like that. Organizing his affairs before he goes. So, he says, "You know, I want to give Reuben, I want to give Reuben all my slaves." Reuben says, "I don't want slaves. I already had a slave. It was a terrible experience. I don't want a slave." If this Reuben guy, the guy the receiver, if he's a cohen, hire a lawyer from the truma. Too bad on Reuben. He gets the slave. Not only that, the slave starts eating truma like a cohen. We have to We have to understand why. The law is going to explain. There's no such thing. If Reuben says, "I don't want a slave." See, he doesn't get a slave. The the the guy taking care of his affairs and he dies, so the heirs gets it. Or if he didn't die, he himself keeps it. I don't understand. If If Reuben says, "I don't want a slave. I don't want a slave." You could force him to take your slave? No way. You're right. If he's screaming, "I don't want it. I don't want it." There's no way you can force him to have it. If he's quiet and then he starts screaming, there's something called If I try to acquire a Lamborghini for you, it becomes yours. If If 10 minutes later you say you don't want it, it's too bad. It became yours cuz a normal person would want something like a slave. Keep reading. So, it's close. It's close. It's too fancy for me. You can sell it. You can sell it. So, he He tells He tells Shimon, "I want you to acquire the slave for Reuben." And Reuben is standing right there watching this whole thing. But, Shimon second he's quiet. And then he starts screaming. That's what it says? Okay. When the star comes, that makes sense. When the star comes, then he starts screaming. Tanakama says, wait. Why Why was he quiet? The first 5 minutes he was quiet. Obviously, he wanted it then now by the Sabah. Later on he starts screaming out of the way. Then afterwards he had a lot. So this is the that says that you could see from the end what he wasn't what his intent was in the beginning. That what? He didn't want it. You see he didn't want it. And he didn't want it in the beginning. The only way to make it so so what's it didn't scream in the beginning. So I can also have that stuff. What's the point of screaming and start making commotion? When when it becomes mine I get the star. >> [clears throat] >> Then I'm going to make him a hall. So I could put him in the also. When a person checks and then afterwards he does Rica. So from the fact that he started screaming out of the side out of the side in the end it's obvious what he meant in the beginning it was Okay, end of that. Halacha can be also. He be also says that the owner cannot insert his thought of into the Shita. Not in the big dash. Not outside of the big dash. If if the owner wants to make a a pig all it doesn't work. It's only the coin. So that's the end of the story. That's what we passed in. Says the Gamora my sister hire the also to call the word uh these Arabs that came to Tikuna. Tikuna. You have different to Israel. They come in with animals. And they tell the the Shaka they say here take these animals. I'm going to hold them over terribly done. We only want the parts that are for the Zara. We want the blood. We want the fats. We want to put it on the Give it to the Zara. Mashko bisro but the hides and the the the good stuff, let it cool. you. take it. So that So now we have a problem of a It's their animal. It's their animal. We even had in the Mishnah Rabbi Eliezer, who was it? Rabbi Eliezer, I think it was, says even if the owns a small part like the diaphragm, the skirt steak, that's enough to ruin it. It's a bit of a problem. He's He's a partner. Over here, he owns 100% and he's going and he's giving to the Jew. He says, "You Jew, you do everything. Chop it up. Just give me the fats and the blood and the rest is yours." I'm going to put the rest for a bit of a problem. Could the Jew eat it? Based on what we just said, the dialogue is like Rabbi Yosi, that the owner cannot insert his problem of a bit of a problem into an animal. A live animal cannot be a bit of a problem. That If a Jew has a live animal, he says, "Shepsela, you're a bit of a problem." Nothing. The only time a Jew can insert a bit of a problem is during the shchita. I'm sure you have a bit of a problem then Mason. The owner of the can't say that this sheep of his is a bit of a problem. It doesn't work. Hello my. He's relying on the Jew to do the shchita and when the Jew is doing the shchita, the schmaltz is going to say, "Oh, a bit of a problem, a bit of a problem, a bit of a problem." Rabbi says it doesn't work. So if it doesn't work, then I have a kosher shchita here and I can use the animal. When may law show her of to be better of master of the comedy of Yosi they ask of Yosi, "I got my what's the story here?" Show her he sent back over Yosi This is what Schmoel said. Look at your Rabbi Yosi. The law is that the cannot insert his problem and therefore it's a kosher shchita. Okay, so that's the end of that story. All of my Rabbi Rabbi Rabbi Shimon So Rabbi tells Rabbi Shimon Rabbi Eliezer Israel might Time of the we see it a few times that a person owned the animal. It wasn't like today you come to the store and you have ready-made steaks. I want that piece, I want that piece. There's a animal in the shtetl and everybody gave a little bit money towards the animal and then he shucked it and then you got your piece. So, a non-Jew goes ahead and he gives money to the butcher. He gives money to the butcher. He says, "I want a piece. That's I want that steak." Does his money become a partnership? If he's a partner according to Rebbe Eliezer, we're talking about in the Mishnah. Rebbe Eliezer says that if he even if he owns a small, tiny piece of the animal like the diaphragm that's enough to ruin the whole animal. A didn't own a piece, he gave money towards a piece. Is that considered a partnership or not? Yeah. Pretty much. It's a new chiddush in the Halachos Kinyanim here. O me achazi non, I need to take a look, I need to see. E in Ish Al Amamu, if he's a a tough guy then what? Then you can't give back the money, the money's stuck by you. Then you're stuck. You can't If you can't get out of it and the money you already paid for it, he's kind of like b'kesef, now he has a kinyan in it. V'lo motzi matlay, you can't push him off also. V'lo, if he's a nebach, little guy with broken glasses, he's uh a garnished, a flimsy guy Omar lay, all you do is reish ech v'har, you see that mountain? You see your head? Take the two and knock them into each other. That's the loshon. Go bang your head in the wall. Hasheiga d'sheim harim, d'sheim giv'os. There's a machlokes what a har and what giv'a is. Is giv'a more higher than a mountain? A lot of people say that giv'os are the highest mountains in the world. The Vilna Gaon says giv'os is man-made. So, it's probably smaller than har. L'sheim yamim a person does have a desire to the oceans, d'sheim neharos to the rivers, d'sheim borrows to the deserts, shitos pasula. So if you if you look at the word shitos pasula, usually it says there's a isur hana. You're not allowed to benefit. Pasula means you're just not allowed to eat this meat. If the the shita was done for for the for the mountain, you're not allowed to eat the meat. So we have to understand why is it not severe like like a isur hana, like a regular like a regular um shita for the zora. Shni omer misag misholim, two people holding onto a knife, something like this. The guy on the right is is a [clears throat] gomer. Well, no, he's not a gomer. He's a He's a he's a shvacha He just he's not a believer. What is he thinking in his mind when he's shacting? Avoda Zora. The guy on the left is a shoycha. He's he's thinking the right thing. The guy on the right can ruin it. Echa l'shem Echa m'kalel, one one of them is thinking to the mountains, to the rivers. Echa l'shem kashrus, and the other one is thinking for the proper shita. Shitos pasula, one could ruin it for the other. Obviously, if they're both holding two different knives, then the the one the the the the guy shacting l'shem avoda zora is going to win. But even if he's holding the knife with someone else, the the guy that's doing it for kosher doesn't override the guy that's doing it for pasul and it's pasul. What? >> Even if he could do it on his own. >> Yeah. Cuz I'm helping you and I'm inserting avoda zora in there. Pasula in the k'meitzman lay, it seems like from the mishna you're only also to eat it, but you're not also b'hana. You could benefit from it. For me, I don't understand. This is mamesh m'forash the opposite. Ha'shoycha d'shum harim, d'shum g'vo'im, literally like how I mentioned, d'shum ha'ro'im, d'shum ha'bo'im, d'shum chamor l'vona, this is a little different. If you want, you can look in toises over here on the side. Toises brings the shita of is m'chlis rasha toises. If the Hamel and Vana are like attached to the Gagel, whatever that means. That they're or they're independent. So it goes into say that the just interesting stuff that the the sun has 12 Malachim in charge of it. Okay? The Shulchan Aruch and Mazel says the Gemara of the Mishnah. I don't know where in the Gemara. The Shulchan Aruch and Mazel Person worships a star or or a Mazel. How do you say Mazel in English? Uh Constellation. The Shulchan Michael Asara Godol. Oh, so this is the largest thing in the world. This is Michael, the Malach Michael, in charge of the Jews. Asara Godol Michael Shulchan Katan. Shulchan is a worm. Here's a Shulchan Katan. Harei Zevechei Meisim. So what? Oh, after all this, if you Shach for a mountain, for for this, or for Michael, or for a small little worm, it's Zevechei Meisim. Say, what's Zevechei Meisim? Also the Hana'ah. So why doesn't Why is our Mishnah say it's not Asur Hana'ah? It's only Asur to eat. Amar Abaye Eliyahu Kasha. Hold the Amar la Har, hold the Amar la Gadol la Har. When you're talking to to the mountain, we learned in Avodah Zarah Layhem Layhem Al Ha Harim that it's only their gods on the mountain, but not the mountain itself. You cannot You can't worship a mountain. But if you're worshipping the god of the mountain, the the Sorry, not the god of the the Malach of the mountain, >> [clears throat] >> that's something else. The Torah calls the Malach of the mountain. The Torah calls it Lashon of Elokus. So that's a problem. Uh but it's a Malach. I don't know. Yeah, but [clears throat] you're Yeah, you're right, the Elokus. Probably Elokus. Well, No, but it's a Lashon of Elokus. Right. You There's nothing to ask her. De'ikanei De'ikanei Dumya De'Michael Asara Godol Shma Minah. That's why we stuck in here the idea of a Malach. Shmamina. Omar Avuna. Okay, so here we go. Beautiful stuff. You have Again, I cannot and this is this is today's Sugya. Can I go ahead and grab my my friend's clock and say this is Avoda Zara? It's not mine. Can I do that? No. I cannot take my friend's animal and say this is Avoda Zara. The animal's alive. Even my friend can't do it. But what if I take my friend's animal and shecht it for Avoda Zara? Does it turn into Avoda Zara? Yeah, I'll allow my friend an animal, but could I do I have the right to do it? Does a person ask for something that's not his? Hoy Avoda Zara. So we have we have two two tremendous Khidushim. Khidush number one, that I could that I could make an animal Avoda Zara. Khidush. Khidush number two, I can make my friend's animal Avoda Zara. I can go to my friend's backyard without permission and destroy his favorite animal. Make it Avoda Zara. How do I see it? So Rashi says beautiful. You see the Kohanim they took all the Imagine a clee made out of gold. $100,000, $500. Who knows how much something made out of gold, a clee made out of pure gold. From the Beis Hamikdash they took it and they buried it. Why? Cuz Achaz worshipped it for Avoda Zara. But it's not Achaz. It's public property. It's owned by the Beis Hamikdash. So you see that a person has the right to insert Avoda Zara into into somebody else's belongings. Shmuel Amar Ulla Amar Rebbi Yitzchak. So I want you to remember this cuz we're going to be turning the page. It's going to be hard to go back and forth. We have Rav Huna that says that I a person shechts an animal that's laying in front of Avoda Zara. Meaning he didn't have to lift him up cuz if you lifted him maybe maybe there's a kinya now. Even without a kinya, nothing. I go shecht its neck for avoda zara. Kima shara b'siman echad asara. I probably didn't even read this. Even Yeah, I did. I didn't. Maza I went back. Even though he shechted one out of two simanim, which is not a shchita, that's it. And we're going to see in a second, savar k'davai l'Ula, like Ula and Rabbi Yochanan and Rabbi Shimon bar Rabbi Shimon and Rabbi Meir and Rabbi Akiva and Rabbi Eliezer asara meisa asara. Even though bowing to an animal, zero, but doing something negative in the animal, doing a meisa, and we're going to say the Gemara is going to say it's a kol shehu, even a little small little amount, that makes it asur. So, we have a combination of It's not even a combination, it's a planation. Ravuna says, you shecht your friend's animal, you make it avoda zara. Says Ula, even if you do a little bit, one siman, says Rav Nachman, even less than one siman, a little nick, but you have to do a meisa. You can't just say or bow, you have to do something physical. >> [snorts] [clears throat] >> Aisa Rav Nachman and Rav Huna as Rav Nachman and Rav Huna, chashai chatis b'Shabbos. If you shecht, it's a riddle, a riddle. How is a person chayav three chatas for doing one action? The answer is, if I shecht on Shabbos, shechting is issur d'Oraisa because of netilas shama. You're not allowed to uh kill something on Shabbos. B'chol you're taking a chatas and shechting it outside of the Beis Hamikdash. That's also issur d'Oraisa, karus, another karus, second karus, chiyuv chatas. I shechted a chatas outside of Beis Hamikdash. You're only allowed to shecht inside of Beis Hamikdash. L'avoda zara, obviously I don't have to tell you that shechting your an animal for avoda zara is issur d'Oraisa, it's karus if you do it by mistake. It's a chatas if you do it by mistake. Chayav sholash chatas. So, let me ask you a question. Let's say a person takes his a chatas and he checks it on Shabbos for avodah zarah in Beis Hamikdash. How many chatas is he chayav? Huh? Anybody want to answer? Huh? Well, one. Okay, let me read again. Hashocheit chatas [snorts] b'Shabbos bachutz l'avodah zarah chayav sholosh chatos. First checks the chatas. He takes his chatas and checks it outside of the Beis Hamikdash on Shabbos for avodah zarah. He's chayav three chatos. Okay, let's do this again. Raboisai, if a person checks a chatas on Shabbos outside of Beis Hamikdash for avodah zarah, how many chatos is he chayav? Wrong. The answer is four. Cuz he's chayav the chatas that he just checked it. The Gemara says chayav sholosh chatos. He's chayav three. The Aris given to Shulchan Aruch about siman achal avodah zarah. Listen to this bomb question. If all you do is check one siman and that's enough to make it ossur, ashchutei chutz l'avodah zarah chayav, how could I be chayav on three things? As soon as I start checking this animal, michateig b'oferu. I'm cutting dirt. What does that mean I'm cutting dirt? Think about it. When I start checking, as soon as I start checking, that's avodah zarah. Once it's avodah zarah, the kachum, the kedushah of this animal flies away, says Rashi. It's poka. So then I never checked it a chatas outside of Beis Hamikdash cuz it wasn't a chatas. By the time I got to the second siman, it's like checking dirt. Omar Rav Papa, ochal b'chatas oiv askinan. Over here, oh, very good. We know the nafka mina between a chatas bird and an oilah bird. A chatas bird, all you have to do is check one siman. So the Gemara tries to say they checked it one out of the two simanim and therefore all three things happened together simultaneously the kul ba'a ba'a ba'a ba'a ba'a ba'a ba'a ba'a ba'a You have the shchita, you have avoda zara, you have shabbos all in one shot. Migdi Ravuna Kima na mar al shmaite kula asked the Gemara a simple question. We we we said already that Ravuna goes like I said Rav Nachman before. Ravuna goes like Ulla. And what does Ulla say? Ulla maise kol de kolma. So we have a problem here. Ulla says even a little nick in the neck a chatas of a bird that all you have to do is one siman and you're right. But before you got to the one siman you as as soon as you tap it with the knife that's avoda zara. And the shchita only happens when you get roiv siman which is a step later. By that time it's no longer a chatas, it's already avoda zara poka the kedusha and and he's shochting a a piece of dirt. Oh, so for that we have to say that the riddle goes like this. Elu boi merabi mazviach hu avodah. He says specifically I don't want to be oved avoda zara when I nick it in the beginning. I want to be oved avoda zara at the end [clears throat] of the shchita. And mamila the avoda zara and the shchita will come simultaneously. He'll be oved on shabbos, he'll be oved on shchutei chutz. I hachi asked the Gemara meiri chatas. Mishmi'inan zevach. If we're talking about the end of the shchita, so the end of the shchita is no nafka mina between a shlamim and a chatas. If we're talking about the end, there's zero nafka mina. When's the nafka mina? In the beginning. At the end it could be why does it why why does he take off? You know the answer to my riddle? A chatas. No. The answer to the riddle is any carbon in the world. You take a shlamim and and I say at the end of the shchita this should be it should be it should be avoda zara. So you have shchita, shabbos, chutz all in one shot. Why does it say chatas? Because only in a hotos is an after me in the beginning how could you answer me having at the end it had to happen in the beginning because only in the beginning is there a difference what's the difference cuz a hotos is that's another question that we're going to see today hopefully we'll get there is a hotos considered yours it's considered the by the shalom I bought it to for my kapara is it mine or not mine a shalom is 100% yours so what's an after me it is it since it's yours so then a culture of Nick changes its designation but if it's not yours a little tiny Nick doesn't do anything it's not yours so that's why we say hotos to show that it's in the beginning it happened in the beginning when a Nick makes a difference between a hotos and a shalom it hello boy Mary sorry check this out the famous we we learned this already here look at this bird this bird never goes walking around with a a split trachea it's not considered a treif cuz only 50% you go ahead and take a knife and go from 50% to 51% so at that moment you made a shita you made a Zara you shabbos and you did it shita goats that's the story here the highest of all of culture finish it off the other guy said it all happened on Saturday so says the Gamara Amara papa he loved we have a hotos to you today if the factor of didn't mention the word simon and we said the child is like that he did a little bit then we would have a question from hotos like I explained before by hotos there's an after me in between what was the question of hotos why are you saying hotos you say shalom that's only because he said simon hot that since it's not his the the the similar doesn't make a difference. The the the the the culture doesn't make a difference. By my soul, I would say uh this question what's the difference between it should just be a shlamim. I would say my my soul my soul rabba. Not [clears throat] a cultural, it has to be a full thing. Oh, so a full means at the end of the shita so then there wouldn't be a difference between uh a chatis and a shlamim. I would have to do it again. It's a good thing he mentioned a a siman. It's a good thing he mentioned chavar because once he says chaveiroi meaning then I don't have a casual why is there a difference between chatis and shlamim same thing that we said before. There's a difference between because if it's your if it's yours your own then there's a difference between uh a nick it wouldn't make a difference. If it's your own a small nick even in a chatis makes it yours. It makes it a shita right away. The difference is cuz it's not yours. It's your friend's and since it's a chatis you have to have a big my soul there. My time uh the day must be outside the chavar must be outside. So the marp shita. What's what's Rabba adding? It's I think it's a pretty big okay shita. Since you brought this as a chatis it's like yours come out alone. And therefore what? If it's yours even a little bit is enough. A little nick come out alone you need a big my soul. Um Okay, fine. So we'll stop here. Rabboisi, have a wonderful day. >> Merit the chos of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a shear today at my sponsor.com or [email protected]. [music]