CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 26 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

Okay. Here's a good one. If you didn't hear the shar yesterday, what food type food type that becomes to you can make it tar. You could a person if it becomes tummy goes into make becomes tommy. Put in the mikvah. What type of food? Put it in the mikvah becomes >> Oh, he's right. Water. >> Water. Water that becomes. >> If you touch it to the mikvah, you do hash. You kiss it to the mikvah. You don't like pour it that becomes t. So, we have to finish off the of and then we're going to go on to the contin all sorts of interesting stuff today. What's tmed? Tedd is when a person I'll remind you here. Dam really enjoyed this one. He ate two grapes and 200 pits come out of his mouth. He's trying to make wine. I guess anything can happen in a cartoon. I enjoyed the mim turning into just the art. All right. So the Mishna tells us that if it was mmed, if it fermented, so it's considered wine. It's considered wine. You could purchase it with my money, it's good for a mikvah. If it did not ferment, so it remains water, remains water. You can't buy water with my money. If you add sink water to a mikvah, it passes the mikvah. If you don't have a 40 saw and you add sink water before the 40s, it makes it possible. So says, we're starting where it says gar six lines from the bottom of what does our mission go like? Our mission talks about becoming fermented and not fermented. That was the whole it can't go neither like nor like somebody's trying to make. So he puts in a liter of water. He comes back a few days later, measures out the amount of liquid and he finds exactly a liter. It might might start started fermenting. It's not fermented yet. It looks like a liter. It is a liter. So you pause for why? Cuz nothing changed. You put in a liter of water. You have a liter of water. That's the indication that you didn't really benefit from this whole nothing came out of the grape seeds. Says, listen, naturally water evaporates. So if you put in a liter, you should have a little bit less than a liter. How do you have a full liter? Obviously, some of the grapes went into the water and now you have real tab. So, you should have to give miser off. This but there's no mention whether or not this mixture fermented or not. Doesn't say anything about fermentation. It says did you find a liter or not? That's the whole problem. It doesn't matter. Even if fermented, if it's the same amount, it's not considered wine. Even if it didn't ferment, it's considered wine. And no, no, you missed it. The whole point over there is that it became fermented. That's where it's if it didn't ferment then that there's no and our would be why because according to if it became fermented it's for me if it's the same amount of water then nothing happened according to so our Mishna that differentiates between and is talking out says the and only when it became fermented is listen to this. If you purchase unfermented tement start he did the process he put he mixed water with grapes and he wants it to become some sort of wine and you purchase it with sheni money are you allowed to purchase with my sheni money we said no it's it's you're not allowed to purchase but then you found out that it did become so So the guy, listen to this. Let's go backwards. Let's say you purchase tid and you find out that it never became tid. It didn't work. It didn't ferment. It didn't ferment. So what happens to the money? You bought you bought the tid from a guy. He's a seller. What does the seller do with the money? >> And therefore what? >> Oh, he bought it with my shenani money. So now the seller has a problem on his hands. He has my shady money on his hands. If it became like says later on it became so then the the money changes as it becomes then we know that it was a good purchase and the money goes out and becomes regular and the guy could do whatever he wants. He could buy a car with the money but if it never became tmed then he never had a right to buy it with the mashi money. So the mashi money has douch in it. It has duch in it. He has to only use that money to buy food. But if it fermented says if it did ferment then we see retroactive that what he purchased here was mamesh fruit. But it says in the Mishna they become fermented not become fermented since most of the why would people waste their time with it most of the time it becomes so if you have then it should then just wait it out in other words even without waiting it's mashed from the Mishna that if it didn't become fermented right now it's a problem why you have a most of the time it's m so it shouldn't be a problem why you telling me it's possible You're right. We're talking about in a situation where he put a sample on the side. In factories, they call it a retention sample, something like that. Like they they take a little sample of food and they put on the side. This is from Tuesday. This is from Wednesday. If there's any issues with it, you put a little sample and then you go back to that sample. You see, did it become fermented? Did it not become fermented? you'll know. So this is a beautiful says that it's always dependent on one thing. Could you tell right now? Does it does it look Does it look Does it walk like a duck? Does it look like a duck? What does it look like? That's all I care about. What does it smell like >> right now? Right now when I mix it, when I buy it, You have the three log that ruined the mikvah, but it's missing a tiny drop. It's not 100% three log. It's minus one ounce and a tiny drop of wine fell into these three log. And what happened? It changed the color of all the water. It looks like wine. It's not puzzle. But not only that, and what if a little drop of milk fell into it and milk looks like water? Now it doesn't look like wine. It looks like water. Why does it not become possible? Because now milk fell into the mikvah. Milk doesn't pass. Before wine fell into the mikvah, doesn't pass. Says, "No, there's a distinction between milk and wine. right now it looks and it smells like water. So even if you even if you find out later that it became even if later became it became fermented it doesn't matter it says and look at it right now right now it's water so it's possible this what says that you go after if eventually we find out that this is wine that the time it turned into wine so we go by then then retroactively it was a good sale the the works in other words according to when after it became uh fermented you can't when it comes to you can't take mice from another in other words you and I we both tried the same day we took a bunch of grapes pits we put into water we try to make te I have to take micer you take micer but you don't use mine for your micer I don't use yours for my micer only if it became fermented meaning that everybody agrees that in order to to be maf from another place it has to be fermented It's mash that would say he would argue even in a case of everybody agrees in but in it's only says when you have to take mice or even you could you only take the micer from itself you can't use your friends and the explains why can't you take from your friend the because what if we find out later we always have to be concerned that it doesn't become wine and what if I took non wine I took regular sink water and I used it for micer on my stuff doesn't work that would be a big problem of tel and what if I took wine real wine your my friend has real wine I have fake I have sink water I took real wine and I'd used it as micer on my water. So I just use real good fruit on water. That That's a That's a big problem. All right. So this is I have to right here in this cup. fill it up to the top and I kind of kiss the the the water of the mikvah with it. I go in slowly slowly let the water of the mikvah touch my and then I take it out. We even have a video of it if anybody wants to see. You do a shaka. By the way, we have a shak in mikvah today. We have, you know, the main bar that you dunk in, but there's like a little hole on the side and it goes into a barrier shaka. It that's where the the make and it touches what? >> In the sample. >> Oh, in the sample. Correct. You want to get it, please? Right here is a hole. And right here is a hole. So Rabbi says an interesting thing which the Gumar says I don't I literally don't get it. He makes a distinction between whether the water of the was before he started the process of or it became and then only afterwards it was became to or the water was to beforehand. He says you cannot make that was before he started the whole process of you can't make it. Why a wild thear is going to come up with we don't understand why. If you started you had a nice cup of t water then you added pits to it and then you tried to make and then it became then take it to the mikvah and touch the mikvah. But if the water was then you added to it, it's not going to work. I don't understand why. He said this over toash. Oh, so maybe I can understand. He says like this because the water of the is heavy. They go down. They gravity pulls them down and all the fruit floats to the top because it will be a problem to get a good because when you try to touch the mikvah water to the to the it's going to be blocked by all these the peels and the and the pits are going to disturb it. That's the only thing I could come up with. So what's the difference when the water became tummy? It's the same ingredients in the water. The the water is going to go down to the bottom. The top is going to be a bunch of floaters and those floaters are going to disturb the whole process. Obviously, there's water. There's the there's floaters, but it's going to get through. The make is going to get through. What is the difference? That's it. What are the five six ways that if a father sells his daughter as a slave? Torah says you could how does she go out? So we have yo, we have the age of naira. If the master dies, if the master marries her, if they redeem her, if what else said, okay, the says that a father could sell his daughter. And we see the same Muslim that the Tyra says you're not the only person that can marry off a daughter is a father yet said no that even if there's no father the father died the brother can marry off because we're talking about this this this girl is going to go to waste she's going to she's going to get lost somewhere somebody bad things are going to happen to her so they allow this that can marry her off but there's something called mon that if a brother or a mother marry her off since it's only the all the girl needs to do is say, "I don't want to be married to you." That's it. I don't want to be married to you. I want to go home. So, she go leaves. So, says says the if she's that old that you could sell her off. In other words, she's a there's three ages. This that's 0 to 12. Naro is from 12 to 12 and a half provided she has sim and a from 12 and a half on if she's so young she's in the first category of where you could sell her off and so if somebody was then they have to pay the father but that's only in the stage the middle stage of narrow and every place that there's If this she's old enough, in other words, she's in the age of 12, then he can't sell her off. So, if she's a she's not an she's she's not basically that's what it says. This this goes according to that says that there's no if somebody was a a young girl, there's no that even there's there's a there's there's a says that's what we're saying now. This is that until she's a naira, until she brings you could sell her, but there's no in the period. Then that's the only time the Torah says that you have to pay a fine and the father can't sell or that's our argue say that has to do with royal and any girl from three and up is there's a So what? So there is a situation where she's a so there is and there is at the same time but the asks we only spoke about in this line. We didn't say anything about you don't mention that there's also the father. You're right. It means both says the m is when a brother or a mother marry off the daughter when she's so she a very strange thing she doesn't require a get at all she needs to do is say whatever the guy's name is I don't want to be married to him if she's that young she could In other words, there's no again this only goes according to you could do even when she's a narrow. How do we know? There's a very short period of time where she could do even when she's above 12 with until what time what how old is she when she do so she has two hairs. So says a little more than that has to be that there's more dark than light more dark than skin. In other words, it's not but it takes a few weeks later or whatever it is a certain period of time where she's considered a naira. So she could do m at that point but also certainly khalita she do khalita because she's an ira but even mun says the mishna in the time of the garra they used to blow a before shabas like we do today there's a a signal there's a siren today they play music they do you know a whole siren thing so two and a half hours before was the first siren that would tell people to come out of the fields and come home. Then they would do a trua that that was a tequila. Then they do a trua that would signal to the store owners to close shop. They did another one like right before that told people that they had to light candles, take the pots off the oven, etc. Today it's a whole big thing. It says whoever does the tr the geta for kids whatever. So the last last one when it's like do not do not do is the long one true and so says the mishna when do we dodah shabas or but if I'm doing a if I'm doing the siren then in other words if it's like shabas going into shabas I'm not going to do we'll see in the mishna in other words we're talking about a yont and shabas together either shabas is first y is second or yont is first and shabas is second so when I do a then I'm not going to do havedala But if I'm going to say between and then I'm not going to blow the shabas here the mission explains if falls out like this here on fell out on a Friday I have to blow the between and shabas to tell people stop cooking you know cook anymore. It's not we're going into shabas. What am I gonna make a from but over here I'm going from a lesser to more of a so there's no point in me of making when is then I do have dollar because I'm going from a more to less but there's nothing to blow the ford when y is what kind of do I I say I'm going from a severe of of shabas is always more than how does it look like when is shabas what do I do I do and it goes straight in I don't I don't pause. Okay, fine. So anyway, it's in one shot not that was a uh what I and then in one in one shot whereas in a regular shabas you do and then you stop and then you do a true or is in one breath in the city that you should do it in one shot when you have but the problem is it says our case that was shabas says like this year seems like you don't do a trua at all. It's just one seems like you don't do a trua. No, there is a trua just according to each. In other words, it's a with a trua together. So that's why we don't call it a trua or it's ao and you don't take a breath and then you do a trua. So we don't call it a trua. It's not a individual trua. goes together with the so we don't call it a since it's one breath so we don't consider it a fall in regular we say we say and then we say what so we say the same thing twice what about when falls out when do you say do we That doesn't sound right. We never say that. We say that we do say at the end only at the end. You would say we don't pass like him. Don't say, "Oh, we're going in from a lighter to more of a that's a bazillion to the shabas." If y falls, how does y fall out in the middle of a shabas? How? H how >> means the middle of the week? If falls out in the middle of the week, but That's good. Divides between light and dark. But what does this mean? You're on a Tuesday. Why are you saying between the seventh day the shabas and the rest of the week? says you sing it like it says in the makes that and you're just finishing off like you need and now you can say have a wonderful day merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world sponsor Ashir today mdysponsor.com or sponsor atmop.com