CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 25 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] >> Good morning, EVERYBODY. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE BOYS ARE HOLDING UP WITH A METAL ON TOP. SO, first of all, I need to fix a a mistake that I said yesterday. When a mouse enters the airspace of a earthenware clay, so the actual clay becomes tummy. And everything that enters the clay afterwards becomes tummy. Can I have a hava amina that it's it looks like this the hava amina that the clay itself is a reeshon and the next level that whatever touches the reeshon is a shayni and whatever touches the shayni is a shlishi and whatever touches the shlishi is a revee for whatever purpose it is. Usually it doesn't work at all, but sometimes for parah adumah or kacham kacham are very sensitive so they sometimes are affected by shlishi. The parah adumah is affected by revee. But in fact, let's go maybe this one. Let's do this one. This is a dead mouse. This is actually touching, but okay. So, now that the the clay as he pours it in, it becomes tummy. Everything remains tummy. Okay. Yeah? Yesterday I said when the mouse is still in there. Today is uh That's today's mistake. Yesterday was toxin, today it's worse. Well, it was all yesterday. It was part of yesterday. Even when the mouse is not in there, it still gives off tumah forever on a shayni level. All my little brother have a guy So, now we're doing the typical cover home room that we saw a number of times in all the sugars. We're going to do the same thing. Why can't the clay Harris become tummy when you touch it from the outside? Typical clay, let's say a metal bowl. Shame it time and my view doesn't have the special halacha, doesn't have the special sensitivity that it becomes tummy from putting inserting tummy in the its ear space. My view of the tummy go boom. Nevertheless, they become tummy when you touch the outside clay Harris, she met tummy my view. So, clay Harris, which is more sensitive, becomes tummy when you put a mouse in the ear space inside. And it didn't she tummy go boom. So, certainly it should become tummy when you touch the outside. So, let's take this case for instance. You have to mess oil. If somebody brings a dead person into the room, then the entire room becomes tummy. Everything in the room becomes tummy. Now, what about if you have a barrel made out of earthenware that's in that room, but it's sealed. Do its contents become tummy? The answer is no. It's able to protect what's inside that barrel. Why? The whole clay person walk out of here and tell me now this is a this is a severe severe tummy of to mess maze that's present in the entire room, but the whole clay person walk if it's a open vessel I should end some of the person a lot of that it doesn't have a a nice cover. Is it clay she to mess with the dams of the pistol and what vessel does the tummy enter in its opening? Have you ever heard of the clay Harris? The clay end some of the person a lot of what is tummy over? when there's no something possible is no seal. Oh, yes, something possible all of Tahor. If there's a nice seal, then it would be Tahor. Okay. So, I'm a mellow. So, you see that a clay inside only becomes Tahor from inside and not from the outside. Now, we're just going to do the reverse. Simple clay in the reverse. We apply clay inside and we apply clay inside. All other vessels, metal vessels, let's say, wooden vessels that have a toy, a wooden clay, a wooden bowl, a wooden cup is Tahor. You apply clay inside and we apply clay inside. How come when you put a dead mouse in the ear space, it doesn't work on all the clay of the world? We apply clay inside and we apply clay inside. We apply clay inside. We apply clay inside and we apply clay inside and we apply clay inside. We apply clay inside. We just established that a clay inside does not become Tahor when you touch the outside. Yet, we apply clay inside and we apply clay inside and we apply clay inside. But, all every other clay yet and what? It does become Tahor when you put a mouse in the ear space. So, we apply clay inside and we apply clay inside every clay that Why is this so close? Thank you. We apply clay inside and we apply clay inside and we apply clay inside. We apply clay inside and we apply clay inside. We apply clay inside. And it didn't apply clay inside. So, every clay that's more sensitive than a clay inside, it becomes Tahor when you touch the outside, certainly should become Tahor when you put Tahor in its ear space. Tahor inside. That possible talks about Tahor inside. And what does it say over there? It says the whole clay inside. Only earthenware has the Indian of Tahor inside. As the Gamora of Tahor inside, huh, the Shino. We already took the word Tahor inside and we learned yesterday we learned from the words Toycha and Toycha we learned two things. First of all, that food items that are inside the clee become tamei from the ear space. The ear of this clee is metamei food. And then we learned the gzeira shava that the actual vessel becomes tamei. Yeah, two things. The food and the vessel. Says the Gemara, you're right. But the fact is our ba Toycha it says Toycha four times. Where does it say four times when it only says it twice? Cuz each word is two words. It should have said Toych. >> [cough] >> Toycha the extra vav is another time. And it says bitoych and it says instead of that bitoycha another vav. So total of four. So what are we going to do with all four? Toycha Toych Toycha Toych Each Toycha is actually says the word Toych in Toycha. Chada So what do you do with all four? Says the Gemara, Chada l'gufai. What's l'gufai Raboisai? The food that goes into the clee even though there's no tuma there, the ear the ear in the clee gives it tuma. Makes it what? A sheini. The clee itself is a rishon. Anything that comes in drops one level to a sheini. V'chad gzeira shava. And one tells me that the clee itself absorbed the tuma through the ear. V'chad Toycha shel zeh v'lo Toycha shel acher. This halacha that we're trying to learn that only a clee cheres has this ability to give off tuma from its the ear space. V'chad Toycha v'lo Toych Toycha. So a lot of Gemaras have this picture. The truth is I would tell Yoshy to get rid of this mouse. It could be it's a little confusing cuz it looks like it's touching. The point is that a mouse came into the ear space of the outer clee. >> [clears throat] >> The inner clee does not absorb tuma. The feel the matter says clee shatef. Clee shatef means even another type of clee. If you notice over here in this picture, the inside clee is made out of wood. It's not made out of earthenware. This wooden clee, so let's do this again. So, we could at least know it for today. The inside clee cannot become tuma. Why? Because the outside clee was touched by a mouse. Or at least absorb the tuma from the ear space. The mouse is in the ear space. So, the outside clee became a It went from a aba tuma of the mouse down one level to a rishon. A rishon doesn't have the power to give any tuma to another clee. It cannot make another clee tuma. It can make food tuma. So, the inside clee is protecting all the food that's inside it. Now, if you notice in this picture, the rim of the inside clee is above the rim of the outside clee. Why? Because if the rim of the inside clee was lower, then the ear would go inside. The ear of the outer one would still have room to seep into the inner one. It would make everything inside the inner one tuma. The feel clee shatef. Let's ask the matter of clee metama megabom. If so, let's do something else. Let's say that every clee cannot become tuma at all. At all. If you touch the outside of a clee, it doesn't become tuma. But the Torah says that a clee becomes tuma. Oh. So, maybe it becomes tuma only one way only. Element toychan inside a clee uben agia. Uve kava mikava chaim. Maybe a mouse must touch not the outside of a clee. If you touch the outside, it remains tahor. Maybe the mouse touches the inside. And what's the what's the kava chaim mikali cheres metama avir metama megaboy. A clee cheres could be metama from the airspace but not when you touch the outside. So my view on So all other Caleb that are not metal from the airspace and didn't change metal certainly they should be stronger and not become metal from the outside. So how do they become metal from the inside if they're touched? How you doing something possible of Tommy? This clean that doesn't have a a covering becomes Tommy. How you doing something possible of Tommy? If it has a covering doesn't become Tommy at all. How come Caleb? I can be with you but on any other clean they should something possible of they should something possible of Tommy. All other Caleb whether or not they have a cover or not they become Tommy from the outside. Next mission same thing Tommy Caleb. Tommy be clean my tacos. I'm always saying this. This is a board that somebody gave us with some food on it. This is not my capital why? It's truly Caleb it's flat. It doesn't have a base cable it doesn't have How do you say base cable in English? receptacle receptacle This is not a receptacle this doesn't have a bottom so this is not considered this is flat if a dead person touches this a dead mouse Tommy. So something that's Tommy be Caleb this exact device item in metal would become Tommy. A flat piece of metal is Tommy. Tommy be Caleb if it doesn't have a receptacle receptacle Tommy be Caleb Tommy be clean my tacos sorry Tommy be Caleb Tommy be clean my tacos. If it's flat be Caleb and it's Tommy Tommy be clean my tacos if it's metal it's Tommy. Tommy be clean my tacos. When so this is what the food is going going speaking about if you have piece of metal, it's not 100% finished. You didn't do all the finishing touches to it. You didn't engrave it, you didn't polish it, whatever you didn't do, it's not mikabel tumah. Why? That's not how you sell a piece of metal. A a metal dish, a metal object is always finished completely. Masha en gam be when it comes to wood, wood is cheap. So, sometimes you don't finish it off, you give it the you know, splintery. That's how you can sell it off. So, tumah vikli eitz, if it's not nigmar melacha, you didn't you didn't finish it off, it's still tumah when it comes to kli eitz. In other words, if you have a bowl made out of wood, sometimes when it's made in China, it's not 100%, you know, it's 95%. So, that's tumah. But, if you have a piece of metal made in China, not 100%, it's not tumah. Tanu Rabbanan, golmei kli eitz tmei'im. So, golmei means something that's not finished. It doesn't have all the beauty. So, if it's kli eitz, if it's made out of wood, again, it has a base kibbul. We're talking about it could receive something. It's like a bowl, but it's not 100% finished, then it's tumah. Shutei'an, the same kli eitz that's flat like this, even if it's finished, this is finished, it's perfect, it's shiny, it's sanded down, tahor. Now, if we do the same exact thing in reverse with metal, golmei kli matacha is tahorim. If it's not finished piece of metal, no matter what, it could have a it could be a bowl, it could be a spoon, but it's not finished, it's tahor. Shutei'an, but a flat piece of metal without a base kibbul, but it's finished, sorry. Yeah, shutei'an tmei'im, it's tumah. Nimtza, so we see that everything is in the reverse. Nails of tar clay aids when it's purely clay aids it's flat. Tar clay aids when it's tar clay clay mataras. If it's flat when it's wood, it's tar clay when it's metal. Tar clay clay mataras when it's unfinished metal, so it's tar tar clay clay aids. So, if you have a clay aids that has a toy, but it's not finished, it is tar clay. And the guy goes into very interesting very low rate go clay aids. This is what unfinished piece of wood looks like. Call sure acid low shove. You're going to finish it off, polish it off. Low shove aids. You're going to put studs on it like so. You know, like in America you see like in the the old shows they have those golden nails that that that put the the fabric on the chair. You know, like decorative nails. In Hebrew it's called neat. I have no idea. That's what they were telling me yesterday. Neat. Low go rare. Low go rare means to plane to plane it to even out the wood. Low car cave means to to carve out something like to engrave like this like this guy over here. So, >> [snorts] >> even though he didn't finish that, he wanted to and he didn't do it, it's still my guy with tar by the by the wood. Low tea at the tunas. So, obviously we all know what tuna is. I'm not sure that this is it, but why not? >> Woah. The light hits it and you see the the the So, with the skin they they would use it for um sandpaper. This might be a problem this the the satuna cuz the The Gamorah says that the tunas when you take it out of the water all I remember is that when we learned this, I don't know if it was this Sugya or something similar. I think I got here said something about tuna. He's he spoke up then. I'll go bottom. The um the it sheds its its uh scales. Says Gamorah mechusar kan if it's missing the base or kan cane or oygen or the rim or oyzen or the handle. Here we have some pictures. >> [snorts] >> Um oygen No, this is oyzen. No, this is oyzen. This should be oyzen. Oygen. Yeah, that's better. Oh, it's my natural mistake. Here it says oygen and over here it says oygen. Okay. So, we got uh we got to change this. I don't Gerson, you could go in there and change this one to oyzen instead of oygen. It's missing a zayin over there. Fine. Mechusar chatito this would be a shudikly eight shudikly matacha, sorry. A a a good example of shudikly matachas who would use a flat piece of metal for knife. A knife is flat. Has no base kebal. Yeah, yeah, I know. I'm just throwing in it. I see the picture here so I'm showing it. I'm showing the picture on the screen. Mechusar chatito uh meaning it doesn't have a base kebal. Tar if a piece of wood doesn't have uh a receptacle it's it's tar. As the Gamorah mechusar chatito pshita what do you mean? We said it has to can't if it's flat it's it's tar. Lo tzuik that's not flat. The hook kapiza be kaba. He started working on it. He did three quarters of the job. He's showing that this is three quarters of the job. It's only a kapiza. He's trying to get the full cub. If he gets the full cub, that that that makes it tame. That might be more than just the Sabbath is nine. Okay. They don't have government climate ties. So, interesting, um the Me'iri says, "What's a shudekliates?" So, I showed you this because this is the alma. The even the Me'iri brings this. He says luv tsiva. But he brings a chair. Here. [clears throat] He says a chair is shudekliates. This is my reason I had issue with. So, that's why I'm not emphasizing it, but according to the Me'iri, a chair, since it's flat, it's not makable tuma. And he was saying Rabbi He was saying it it doesn't make sense based on the laws of Mosha or whatever. Okay. Says the Gemara, we have to look into that. But Yossi went with the Me'iri. They don't have government climate ties. What does it mean an unfinished piece of metal? Kol sha'asa l'shuf. If you just thought about shining it, l'shabetz, to put some pieces the those little What do they call them? The the nitim. The rivets. L'garer, sita to to plane it, let's call it plane it, l'chaker, to engrave it. He might have over here and he and in um Hold on. Oh, here. This is for metal, very nice. Metal, l'chaker, we're right over here. Engrave. What else does he have? L'shabetz. That I don't know. L'hakish b'kurnas, to to hit it with a and to do some sort of design to some sort of because it can it's missing the the bottom or again or or the handle tar. Because you intend to do this in the future, you're not going to sell it without it. So right now it's not a clay. If it's missing the cover, Tommy. Why? Cuz it's a clay without it. You have a cup, you just don't have the rubbish cover for for the cup, it's still Tommy. My honey, my honey, I was thinking what's the difference between metal and wood? Unfinished [clears throat] wood, you saying it's Tommy. Unfinished metal is not Tommy. Says the Gamora, people use metal, they give it to their guest. It's it's for it's and you don't give undone this. It's because you want to get top down for it. So all you need is another polish, another handle. So you you don't in your mind you aren't going with this that this is a clay Maybe not. So where is there enough to mean if you do it for covered or you do it for money? You can be not you clay at some. If you have a product made out of a bone like this, so bones are very expensive to do this, but it's not something you you're not going to honor your guest with a bone of a dead animal. So if the the the reason is that it's cuz it cost a lot of money, so this also cost a lot of money, so it's not to mental you completely finished. Then if the reason is covered, this is not covered. That the a bone a bone vessel and a metal vessel are not my cobble my until you completely finish the mall of all the cloud we have to my cobble to more what's all a bonus my cobble to more in yes the sign your small but noise you may have a regular anything made out of a goat you have to make sure that's tall love it's coming to add things that you wouldn't think even the horns even those Shabbat Emma of 9 the puzzle only says about goats how do you know any other animal time alone with the whole master it's extra so it comes to teach us any type of animal its bones are my cobble to more MK my time alone with me some so then why is it pick out a goat pride besides birds birds you try to make some sort of vessel from the bones of a bird it's not my cobble to more so Rashi brings here something called a griffin in fact here in Israel they have griffin vultures that's a if you go to gamla you see these guys so I just said they used to make things out of their their nails because it's nail says they mission part of the there's two types of almonds there's the I don't know why my thing is not working like in the olden days I had to tell them which one to show two types there's the sweet and the bitter the bitter you could eat when they're small the sweet you eat when they're large >> [laughter] >> so they're the reverse you only could take you take a nicer when they're when bitter are small. And when the sweet like we we we we're familiar with the with the sweet ones on the on the left. We could we only take a ma'aser when they're fully grown. When it's completely finished, that's when we take a ma'aser. When it's small, it's not edible. But when it comes to the bitter ones, it's the exact opposite. When they're very small, that's when you take ma'aser. When they're large, you don't take ma'aser. ma'aser with the bitter ma'aser with the the bitter almonds, but usually eat them when they're small. That same size you'd be the almonds that we eat because they're not edible. When you ma'aser on the sweet ones, in other words, fully mature almonds ma'aser That same size is no good for the bitter ones. Nobody eats those the very large bitter ones. >> [clears throat] >> The direct to eat it is when they're small, but not when they're large. But the reverse when they're sweet. ma'aser That's when they're finished. Nobody eats them when they're small. When both varieties of almonds are small, they're ma'aser. Why are they ma'aser? Even when they're bitter, they're ma'aser because it's not considered a pre. They're too small to be considered a pre. And some say that different. So you can figure it out yourself. What would be ma'aser? When they're large. Both varieties, the the bitter and the sweet, when they're large, they're both ma'aser. It's a finished pre. So we have to understand. So what if it's a finished pre? Who's going to eat a very bitter a very large bitter almond? However, however, that when they're small even if it's bitter, it's part of our ma'aser. that if they're large so even if it's bitter What do you mean what you could do? You could put it in a in a fire. Roasted nuts, you put it over a flame and you you make something out of it. Zuck the Mishnah. We're just going to learn the Mishnah. >> [clears throat] >> So as a as a preview we know that ma'aser sheini Person has a bunch of produce. He gives 2% to trumah, 10% to ma'aser to the Levi. Then 10% he takes in years 1, 2, 4, 5, he takes that and brings it to Yerushalayim. If he can't bring it to Yerushalayim, he if it's too much, let's say he has a giant orchard and he has thousands of fruit so he he exchanges it for money. He buy he sells off the fruit to someone. The guy gives him money. The money becomes kodesh. He takes the money that's kodesh, brings to Yerushalayim. He can buy any type of food he wants. Now he's very, very thirsty cuz he had a very long way. He cannot buy water with the money. This mikvah, every mikvah needs 40 sa'ah of water. If you were to introduce to this mikvah three lug of sink water, it has to have 40 sa'ah make shomem. Ice, whatever, but let's call it make shomem. Non mayim shun. If you were to put in here three lug of sink water this mikvah can never become kosher. You could add on a thousand lug of water of make shomem, it's not going to help. There's something called temed. Temed means you take water and you add uh 48, please. And you add um the grape seeds to it. Mom is like this, you eat two grapes and a lot of seeds come out. Yeah. Oh. So at a certain point, the water transitions and becomes yayin. Wine, if you introduce wine to the mikvah, the mikvah is kosher. Um, mayim shunim is not. So therefore, it says the Mishnah haten mayim actually when it didn't ferment, thank you. And you nick out because of mayim shunim, it's considered water. So it's considered water like bottled water, you can purchase it with mayim shunim money. You poison the mikvah and therefore also it's sink water that makes the mikvah possible. But she mayim but once it ferments, so now it's considered wine. Nick out because of mayim shunim, you can buy high-end wine with your mayim shunim money. You can do whatever you want with your mayim shunim money. Then it poisons the mikvah. It doesn't make the mikvah possible. Now, we got to do this halacha because there's no there's no more really on it. How come mayim shunim? Two brothers that inherited from their father. If they leave it as is before they do any division on the yerusha, then it's as if they're it's still their father's. There's something called tufsas habayis, it's still within the then they then they divide. But what if they they divide and conquer? They divide the yerusha. They say, "You get this 50% I get this 50%. And now let's be partners in this factory. Let's take over the father's business." So now they're 100% partners. So what happens with partners is very interesting. Let's go to 47, show 47 for a second. Or the minute that it takes. It's very good schmaltz. When a person has brand new animals, baby animals. So, he takes the animals, he puts them in a pen, and he opens up the door, and he counts. And the 10th one that comes out, he puts on it a red splotch. He paints it red, and that 10th one goes to Yerushalayim. Rebbeim, I'm going to tell you a chiddush maybe that you don't know. If you do, Rebbeim, you remember? He gives him a red dot, and that becomes ma'aser. I didn't even realize. Okay. Sounds like me. Who gets to eat this animal? What do you do with this animal? You bring it to the Beis Hamikdash and you check it as a korban. Who How much does the kohen get, Rebbeim? How much does the kohen get? Rebbi Shoenberg, how much do you get from the ma'aser? Do you remember? Who's the kohen there? The kohen gets all of it? The kohen gets zero of it. Zero. Reb Nachum, Reb Nachum, it's a good thing you came to shul today. You almost took away from the Yisrael. The The kohen gets zero. Not the Not the Not the Or nothing. Nothing. The Yisrael gets 100% of it. The only thing the Yisrael loses, so to speak, loses. He gains that it goes on the mizbei'ach, the emurim, that's it. If the If this animal has a mum, so he gets the whole thing. Great. So, this halacha though, when it comes to ma'aser, if you have a partner, you do not You don't have to give ma'aser. It's a nice way to get out of it, combinah. If you want to get out of the mitzvah, you get a You get a guy, give him a shutfus, 2% of all your animals, and you don't have to give ma'aser. So, maila, halacha mashutafim, that they were They divided the yerusha. Now, they are partners. K'shechiyavim bakalbain, we know We learned this halacha recently that if you give ma'aser You give a machatzis hashekel for the Beis Hamikdash, you have to add a tiny amount called the kalbain, and let's call it for the exchange rate, a little bit of a kalbain. So, if they have Each one has to give a carbon white? Because they're they're they come from different areas that two different people and they're just partners to remind their partners and therefore they don't have to give my kiss but when they're not considered partners why because they're they're taking animals from their father's estate. And it wasn't divided yet the estate. Then the estate paid for the master shackle when the state pays for the master shackle says when you pay for somebody else master shackle you don't have to add a carbon. So as if the state paid for the two kids there's no carbon and there's no master there's no master have a wonderful day. >> [music and singing] >> Marry this house of spreading Torah throughout the world sponsor a share today and do I sponsor [music] dot com or sponsor mdysponsor.com.