CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 23 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

Welcome. Welcome. So, we're holding seven lines from the bottom by Zer. And these questions are very very similar to each other. These dapim are very very similar in terms of the structure, the questions, the a lot of freebies. The entire are freebies basically. So we know are the mature the adults are the little guys. The Mishna tells us that once it starts turning yellow you can't bring either theim or the and he this guy decided to bring the birds when they start becoming yellow. He said, "I'm going to bring either adults or the chicks, the babies." And he brings like the in between. And this puts us in a suga of the in between. So the question is this bird, what do we is? Is is it a third stage, a stage of turning yellow or we just don't know what it is? if we don't know what it is. And this guy brought two of these. He brought a dove that's yellow and a pigeon that's yellow. So because if this bird is considered a baby, so it's a baby, it's considered an adult, it's an adult, so it's either on the side or on the side. But either way, it was yay. But if it's a third category of a yellow a yellow pigeon, then he's not yita. Do we view a a yellowish bird as a suffic? He brought a yellow dove and a yellow pigeon. Now, if you're going to tell me a yellow bird is a baby, okay? So, he brought a And if you're going to tell me yellow bird is an adult, so he brought a tire. Either way was but no it's a third category he said he's going to bring means I am neither I'm going to bring birds I'm going to bring either or he didn't bring either he brought he brought in between stage this right over here it says The word min is extra what do I do with it? The comes to tell me that when it starts becoming yellow whether it's a dove or a pigeon is possible. It makes sense that you need a pos to tell me that category three is no good. But if you're telling me it's not a category, it's just you don't know what it is. It's going to tell you something that you don't know. You should know you shouldn't bring. Why not? Who knows that it's either an adult or it's a it's a chick. So, it's good either way. So, why would the Pik say that the suffic is no good? Says you're right. There's no pos to tell me min this pos right over here minimum is not coming to tell you that a yellow bird is possible for a carbon. No, it's coming to tell you that if somebody had relations with this bird or somebody took this bird and used it as a vizar he can't bring it as a ka. Now why would I have a meaning he could bring such a bird? It's a disgusting kind of bird. Why would I have a he could bring it as a ka? So says by it says the is of it's either or we see by the marble of all animals. And that's the same poss together with anything that a is a problem. So where is a m a problem? by a be by by a large animal a broken leg you can't bring it as a carbon so would say that the also has to do with the so when and that kind of animal you can't bring as a carbon boy but the bird where there's no problem of so maybe there's no problem of There's no such thing as a cave by these birds, right? Went through this whole thing that this year I discovered that there's no such thing by pigeons. No such thing is it's a physical thing. It's not there is no zakus. There's no you can't look at it with a microscope, not a microscope. We can't see anything. There's nothing there. So, but there's also no Thomas. Thomas means that there's no such thing as being whole or not whole. that that since there's no such thing as as a moon by a bird and there's no such thing as so maybe I could take a bird that somebody worshiped a desire to it and bring it as a carbon that's what the that's what it comes to tell us that you cannot but there's a very important rash here that I want want you to see. Rashi says over here cataracts are not a problem. Why? Listen to this. You can't show up to the with a bird without a leg. Why? So now we're doing the same again basically. Oh, let me show you. I don't even have to show you. If I show you this picture, you know what it is. I don't have to show the whole video. We just showed it. So we're not going to show it. A guy says, "I'm gonna I I take upon myself to bring in from what? What type? Kev is up to 12 months old. Is from 13 months on. What about between 12 and 13? Between 12 and 13 is called >> palgus. We're going to start calling kids. You're not by bringing a palgus because it's a it's a third category. It's not a it's not a it's called this if you bring a palg now to remind we learned a lot about this in this is just one the guy on the right is a he brings one is the guy all the way to the left is a brings two is destroy him. So in terms of the the uh the flour very different double double if you're a Nile in terms of the wine instead of a quarter of a raas you bring a third you bring okay so you brought a palas what do you bring so what you bring is you bring like the aisle all the way to the left you bring the same amount of wine the same amount of of flour great Why? Because he said either a Nile or Kev. He brought a palgus. I'll tell you why. So over here is saying in the talks about a palgus. So that means it's the is not going to be talking about a is talking about a it's a new category called the palgus according to says what do you do you bring all the the the the two let's say a flower you bring that to the base of you say if my palgus is an aisle So the two is him a flower for for it. But if my palus is really avas and I was supposed to bring only one is so one is goes to him and one isarin is just an adava he makes it and he doesn't even mention the fact that that he's a bria that he's a palgus that he might be his own category perhaps. He also talks about the fact that he might be a third category called apologus and there's zero flower for apolog we don't have an answer here's a video for tonight professor he's a he's a psychologist On the one hand, everyone constantly treats me like a child. But on the other hand, I'm already 17. That is not a kid anymore. >> Yes, I know that struggle very well. It's exactly what I went through when I turned 12 months old. On the one hand, I wasn't a kid anymore, but I wasn't a ram either. >> A ram. >> It's called the Palgus complex. >> It's Palgus complex. Very good. Okay, one minute. I want to show you this other polus thing that we did a long time ago. >> I am not a Kev. I am not a oill. >> I'm reminding you he is not 13 years old. He is 13 months old. He finished his first year and started his second year. Got it? Benaz, >> but just like we almost forgot about that one. Had to remind Yoshi. Had no idea what I was talking about. All right. Same thing all over again. Same kind of question. So we know there's something called matzah and something called but there's something in between. I don't remember what mat we learned it probably in yeah these are the breads that if somebody something good happens to someone he got out of a a disease he he went through the Sahara desert what else he or he went on a private plane across the Sahara desert. Anyway, so if somebody went through some Tsarus, he was in jail and he came out of jail. So he brings a a Today we call it and he bring 10 bread, 40 breads total, 10 of them are 30 of them are matzah. This guy says, "I want to bring 10 10 breads for a tida. Either or mat, I'm not decided yet. I'm undecided." And the guy, what does he do? He does the palgus thing. He does the in between thing. What's the in between? It's called it's not it's not. So you have the same kind of question again. It's the same rib asking the question. Now let's talk about take a look at this. You have to look carefully because you see how it's all shiny. It's it's um and now it just turned non-shiny. That's pon that's reor that makes it that's but you get malus if you eat it according to according to according to Yehuda it's when it starts cracking and it looks like the the antennas of a grasshopper okay so here it start crack that's a a later stage and according to here here you can see the grass appar on the left and according to you don't get any penalty you don't get according to you get malus and you can see according to okay so the gar says the gar does something here just to make it interesting because basically the gar is going to say it goes according to because says there's no punishment then it's possible that he means that it's a a category on its There's no punishment. What do you mean there's no punishment? Because either it's a suffic or it's a category on its own. But according to mayor, it's obvious that's what it's it's it's no good. Why would say you get mal because it's like okay says like this very simple man. Let's do it. According to mayor it changed colors but you get malus. So according to a mayor it's only changed colors. What would be the same in's case? >> It's garnished. Garnished. If the stage later when it already looks like a grasshopper he says you don't get. So in's case it's nothing. So you see this is mus. And if I brought 10 breads made out of this stuff cuz I gave 10 breads of mat that's also good. Sorry. Now let's say it happened. It's already cracking according to what what is going to say in the cracking malus. If before the cracking you get malcus. Certainly if you're correct is and therefore what either of you may I brought 10 breads of I said either I didn't say what okay so let's say that's talking about that it's just now just changed colors but according to again it's either just went through all these steps just to get to the bottom step here we are elder it's talking about that it looks like a grasshopper but you don't get it's a suffic but I brought either mat or I brought I brought I brought or mat which one I don't know will decide but I my nether was I said I was going to bring 10 breads either or so it's either or or no or maybe there's a third category called Matzah and Seir and because I brought I wasn't in my nether. I said I was going to bring 10 oft or 10 of matzah. I didn't say I was going to bring 10 of I'm not yita. Okay. So that's the whole suffic here and we remain in the sufficar just asks what happened there. What was the story? Why in the world would somebody say I'm going to bring 10 breads of taida? Everybody knows you have to bring 40 breads of somebody just says, "I'm going to bring the bread of you have to bring both the taid and the bread." Now this person now owes 40 breads. Now he doesn't know if the sea or is and there therefore he brought and that he owes the matzah part or maybe he brought some of the matzah and he has to bring another 20 m and 10ts. He has no idea. So what did he gain? Either way he's going to have to bring 40 breads. What happened was he he's not going to bring 40 breads. He only said I'm going to bring 10. I'm going to help my friend out. I know my friend can't really afford 40 breads. I'll you know what on me I got 10. I got you for 10 says the delay. He didn't help his friend at all. The friend has no idea what the se is and therefore he has to bring the rest mat or is the seat and he has to bring what should he do? What kind of what kind of friend is that? says he's not a friend that's helping out over here. It's not going to help at all. But the question is the the the guy that made the nether is he or not? Neither enough. The question is this guy that that promised he's going to bring 10 breads of either matzah was he with the seer. He didn't help his friend at all. His friend is gonna have to bring 40 breads. You're right. What about the guy that made the nether? Does he was he or not? That's the shil. What do we do? Should we do >> Yeah, we'll just stop over here because it's shabas and Israelis are waiting to come in. Rais have a wonderful week for coming. Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today. mdysponsor.com or sponsor at mdyop.com.