CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 142 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] Everybody, we're only 24 hours before and today we plan on being this year. We finished the entire minus 7 the entire and the entire it's unbelievable and tomorrow morning we're starting it's a great opportunity I say it over and over but sometimes it goes in one ear goes out the other it's a tremendous opportunity to bring one more yid one more that is unimaginable. Unimaginable. You have to think about it in terms of changing a person's life, changing a person's family. Think about what it did for you. Think about what it does for the people around you. You hear the emails or some of you skip the emails, but I could tell you that it changes lives and it changes and says, I'm not making this up. If you cause another yid to to learn or you cause another person to shake, you share in this every word that you say is equal to 613 mitzvah. If a person learns is tens of thousands of mitzvah that you gets for because you brought that person to d after d after dai. Here we go. bought him. We're talking about it's an easy mitzvah doesn't cost much promises. If you do it the wrong way, you take the mother before you take the sons, you get malus. Why? Review the holds. If you look at the it's interesting because first the Tyra says don't take the mother before the chicks and then it says so when the says it's a it's a it's a negative don't do it don't take but then there's a positive what should you do review is of the opinion we're going to see it in the review is of the opinion that to shal is actually before the what what should you do? What's the don't it's not a it's not a fix to the it's not it's not like if I steal so then there's a fix the says give it back the has nothing to do with he says you get the and the is going to discuss what it means tell you you do and you don't get why because the Torah is giving you a fix. The Tor is telling you how to fix it. Instead of you getting punished, there's a way out here. If you if you send it away, then I'm not going to give you malus. First in red and then there's the the green. If you do that, it's like it's like it's like na you steal, but there's a way out. You don't get mas if you steal. Why? Because you give it back to the owner. Same thing here. Anytime there's a mitzvah that it's called, we call it anytime there's a an tells you how to fix it. So there's not going to be any malus. What's the reason the says you get malus? Is it because in general in the Tory when you have this situation we have two sukim or two commandments one is a negative and then there's a positive there's a [clears throat] a and this is it in all situations you get malus so you get malus if a person stole even if you didn't give it back you didn't give back it doesn't matter you get malus in all in all of the perhaps no Anytime there's a lav, we're going to talk about some of them. Like in the B mikd, you're supposed to finish the food, the carbonas. If you don't, what do you do? You burn it. But if you didn't, you get a lav. So you get mal right away from the river. Yes or no? Maybe not. How come over here? He says you get explained before. Yes, comes after it's another but in fact is the first thing you should be doing. He learned the mitzvah is think about it when it comes to geneva you can't give back geneva if you didn't steal first you have to steal then you give it back can't give back before you didn't before you stole but over here you can do before you didn't you didn't take the mother you could do before and in fact that's how he learns the sh comes first okay so we have to understand what what is he hold entire when you have a say when is a solution to the problem. You still get malus or not. So if this is where this is where I should have said what I said just said if somebody steals he has here you see the review the holds you get even if you have a fix don't steal and then it says what you should do and in you cannot give it back before you stole. So you have to steal and then you give back. So it's a it's a classic case of a and then a and then an you can't say the comes first says over here it's to remember these names for the rest of shas of all of who are the authors the main authors of bryo in the entire shaso and shio and if you don't know it from If you heard of from someone else it's a messed up we can't trust it. Don't bring it into the at all. In fact when you say that when you steal you get malus you have to read it. No you don't get malus. Not that you do get mus you don't. In other words you can't trust the price. So don't bring me from it. So this is already a solid price. Why? because it's written by the two the two top of people. It says we're talking about this is one of the things that you give to the poor. So if a bundle fell off your wagon or whatever it is, you don't go back. [clears throat] But he went back. He went back. He was he didn't listen to the Tyra. So what do you do? You're supposed to leave the corner of the field as so you can look at the screen if you're new here. The corner of the field you leave over pay. He just put pay us because you know pay but he didn't listen. He was hungry that day and he took the whole corner. So the understands in here also look at this. There's a don't take the corner. And then it says there's a solution there. It's an that comes after. Oh over here you still see this idea of it's all one of the you one of the concepts in what you got in this case you get even though there's a solution once again we're going to say the says that should have been the first thing in fact it is right. When you have a field, you don't you're supposed to leave it, not after you steal it. You should give it back beforehand. The green comes before the red. Like we said before, says you're not allowed to leave any of the meat over. And what happens if you do? There's a solution. We should burn it. There's a solution. over here says straight out you don't get in our different why does say because is first but in general when you have and they go in order you do the then there's a there's a way you're supposed to finish off the whole carbon pes the only way to do the a is to leave it over and the only way to and fix is after you left it over then what do you do you burn it and in that case says you don't get malus so you see that a typical when there's a solution to the problem in the you don't get malus so why do you get malus by even though there's a solution because it's not it's not it's not a solution it's the commandment theor says shal it's not telling you as what you should do if you didn't ship it away if you stole it it's that is the mitz It's not a solution. When you know for a fact it's a solution to the problem, then you don't get malus. You can see it in the if you take the mother before the the the children, the chicks, what does it mean? You get malus, don't chip it off. Why not? I say love if it be the holds that in general every time the Torah says even when there's a solution you get malus so why shouldn't you just ship it away why why why shouldn't you continue the mitzvah so okay you get you shouldn't hold on to the bird send it away you're right that's exactly what it means maybe of course you have to send it away but what it means means you get malus And then then we'll talk about you sending it away. First you have to you get malus. You're not you're not going to get out of it without malus. Okay. Easier stuff. Now how much what does it mean you you send it away? And if it flew away a half hour, is that enough? As long as it walks away from you a little bit away from your hand. How do you do it? You let you let it walk away on by foot. It's a bird. It flies even by foot. No, it has to fly. You see that sending away by foot. What's the connection to to a bull to to to a cow? There's a bird we're talking about. Its feet are its wings. That's how that's how it maneuvers with with its wings. So, it needs to fly story. There's a guy that chopped off a bird's wings. Oh, let it go away. Let it run away. Okay, bird without wings. You can catch it. Why would you do such a thing? Go make sure it has wings and then send it away. What's going on in our mission? What? You took the mother without the children. you get malus and you don't do according you don't get malus because there's a solution you're right there's a solution the you get here is not what the tells you it's kind of what's the malus they give you and they say are you going to do the mitzvah and if you say yes they stop if you're an action and you say no I have a I'm not listening to you guys so you get another one and another one until maybe I should take who knows who does the rava person came to rava or malay mau I have a bird it's called a teo a beautiful blue bird with it looks like a difa we even have a video that's how I know that it's like I don't understand the tea is a kosher bird so you have to do what's the problem so yesterday cheer. Two guys asked the question. Oh, maybe thought that you don't have to do this on on a single egg. So, I was very happy they said it. I kind of made fun of them. I said, "What do you mean it's a Mishna? You have to do it on one egg." Well, maybe that's what he thought. So, either they they read the next line. They are Israeli. You know, they could read quickly. But it made me feel good because that's exactly what they were saying. Ra says, "Oh, maybe this guy's mistake was you don't know that maybe there's one egg one egg in. You have to be gious in rabbit told him maybe maybe your mistake was cuz he thought that a team only lays one egg. Yeah, that was my mistake." So he says you I don't understand everybody knows it's a famous Mishna you have to do one egg oh so he says says he sent it away so went after he sent it away went and grabbed it so says what's going on here you're going to say Ra told the guy to ship the bird out So he could grab the bird says it in a way that you can't really see. [snorts] These are pigeons. Anybody that lives in Bish knows exactly who these pigeons are. They come into your house. They come into your attic. They stick around your windows. But they're not really yours. >> You have to do but as soon as you saw this, it sits there on the mosquito machine. Try to chew it away. It won't go away. after I grabbed his tail then it went away because usually you walk close they no this guy didn't fly away now you could see I could have grabbed that bird and then I understand I could have literally grabbed it quickly so listen to this you have to do it's not that you're stealing if somebody steals your pigeons from your roof they're not stealing But they're stealing because it's not how do you say dark in English? >> No, no, no. Not common law >> for for peace for for but but there's another way to say it. It's like you don't want to get into a fight with your neighbor who thinks that he owns these birds. So stay away from his birds. They're not his. They're not his. He can't sue you in court over them. They they fly. They come and they go as they please. They're not his. I don't understand these these eggs should be his eggs because they he they laid the eggs in his attic. They laid his eggs on his on his on his windowill. Shouldn't they become his eggs? And if they become his eggs, what's the problem? You can't do when they're your eggs. If you're you know what this means can't be we're talking about interesting situation where the egg was semi out of the the chicken but it didn't of the pigeon it didn't fall to the ground yet at that point and this is all theoretical stuff in terms of it didn't hit the the window sill it didn't hit his dadic so it's not the owner's eggs this bird could take off at any moment and lay it somewhere somewhere else. It didn't make a because it didn't fall to the ground. And the fact that it says because before it it fell to the to the ground. So then why if it didn't come out of the the pigeon completely, why is it stealing? Says we're talking about the mother, not talking about the eggs. No, we are talking about the egg. the egg since most of it came out. The owner, this is all in the guy's head. We're talking about a guy that decided it's his. Yeah. Let's say you're walking down the street, you see a piece of you see $100 bill and you want to go get it. You're about to bend, you're bending down, you're about to get it, and some guy comes and grabs it. Would you be upset at him? Yeah. But it's not yours, but you think it's yours because you don't know. So, well, you think it's yours. You think the guy's he probably is a little bit uh you know if a guy if a guy steals your parking spot you're in bar park you're about to you're doing this reverse you know and a guy goes forward in this happened to me a bunch of times. Yeah. You mom you mad at the guy. >> Is he wrong yet? Could you bring him to best? No. You didn't take anything. You didn't take is going to deal with him. Not whatever. So over here also it's still in the pigeon. It it's but he in his mind it says [snorts] now that we know that you're not allowed to grab the eggs when the mother is still there. Why? First you ship the mother away. Then you take the eggs. Listen to this. I love this. When does your when could your do a kenyan for you? When you're allowed to be kind of eggs. If you yourself could go bend down and grab an egg, then your floor of your porch will make a kenyan for you. But if you're not allowed to grab it, why you can't grab it? Because the mother is still there. And when the mother is still there, you're not allowed to grab the egg. So that your your porch is no better than your own hand. And therefore you can grab it. Therefore the says why is there a problem of peace over here if you ship the mother away so then there's no more on the eggs. So then the you ship the mother away, you have eggs on your porch, the porch made a canyon. Now the guy's in Ghana for stealing your eggs. It's not dark. It's gazil. The difference between peace and gazel if the mother is still there. You have to ship her away. Says we're talking about a kid that says so if that's the case, why does it say that there's a peace issue here? Kids don't have peace. because of peace, the father of this youngster should give it back. If you want to you want to be nice to the to your neighbor and your kid did some damage, broke a window. Yeah, you're right. The kid doesn't have to do it, but for peace reasons, you you go and you pay. to give me and he went to gave him an advice go bang on the on the on the chicken on the whatever on the the coupe whatever it's called and they'll all go up they'll fly away and then you could grab the babies says if it was to make a canyon to acquire these these birds then you should have done a regular sud do lifts up a handkerchief. That's how you kind of things. You have to go bang on doors over here means if it's before and you don't want these birds to be you want to be able to grab a bird and eat it. Anybody who lives in knows that the US means they have a heter to throw stones and shabas at cars because they say this stone and this stone and all the stones did not m we're mocked to all the stones before shabas so we could throw in cars >> that's what they say >> huh >> the garbage >> everything they could burn the fire before I don't know okay we're not going to get into it but you know the joke it's a joke okay [snorts] so but but when it comes for for real if you look at a chicken you say this chicken I'm going to eat on y you say so you light a chef on otherwise it's says no no these these chickens were brand these birds were brand new in other words he never made a king on them he the owner never had a king and that's what said go make sure that they lift up and once they go away from their their eggs then you're already we're makia Yeah, the is you got rid of the mother. How? By banging on the door. You made a lot of noise. So the mothers flew away. They're in the they're in the the coupe over there, but they flew away from the eggs. Now he could get the little babies. So now the owner got them. He was kind of them. And now you now he could tell to you how you ask me. He should do with the handkerchief. He did it with a handkerchief. That the advice to go bang was for the owner, not for the buyer. It's up to You should not take you want to do a mitzvah. You want to you want to purify. He needs a bird. So you go grab the mother bird. I need it for a mitzvah. No, no, no. Don't do it. If this is a simple mitzvah, it's a mitz. Why is it a mitzo? The says it's a mitzo. There's a lot of mitzvah that don't cost that much, but it's a because there's no there's no preparation. You just you happen to bump into a bird, boom, you do it. You can't prepare for it. If you prepare, it's not that's why it's of a it's logic of a that the tells you you get long life for doing this mitzvah. So could you imagine if you get up in the morning at 5 in the morning to do the daf? Imagine what kind of you get what kind of you get. So you're going to ask well I know a lot of people that did the and at a very young age. So the Gar is going to address that certainly a tough mitzvah every when the the tells us that there's like and these are the two mitzvah you should know that there's involved The what? I quoted this from the test but in fact it's an hour. What if you combine the two mitzvah of the Tyra? A father tells you go up a ladder and bring me uh bring me the baby chicks. Go do so is you're going to get double did exactly what his father told him when he comes down the ladder and he dies on the spot. You're going to ask me a question where the Gar says that in a second we're going to see he became he went off the because he saw the story. How is it possible to the says you're going to get and here's a guy that did a double and boom and he fell off and he died. So answers the the question It's not referring to this world is nothing here 70 years 80 years it's all the same is the world to come a person does a mitzvah small like can you get a million years of imagine learning one it's 100 million years it's it's the it's a it's a world without an end and thear is unimaginable that's what That's what we're here for. We're here to work for the next world, not this world. Says maybe the story never happened. How do you know? Tell me if the story happened. Maybe it's the story never happened. In fact, if you do these say he saw with his own eyes the story maybe the guy going up the ladder was thinking about a bad thing. He's thinking about at the same he's thinking about how he's going to be he's going to smoke a cigarette on he's going to be so that's why he negated the whole doesn't care about he cares about your action in in a in a in a yes but you see from here something very interesting not only does not he doesn't count it as an a but he doesn't count it as a bad thought to ruin a mitzvah you're middle of shaking a little you're thinking about Your is good. Your thought is doesn't care about that thought. Maybe he's thinking about that. Yes. In your heart and you can ruin stuff. There's in fact in this world that mitzvah should have at least given enough power not to think about a bad. So you see there's no at least for that not oh you're going to get a nice car in this world but at least it'll protect him from thinking about bad thoughts. There's noar for mitzvah in this world. Yeah. When you're coming back, going to do the mitzvah, you don't get uh you don't get damage. But coming back, yes, it's not true. Even on the way back, there's protection from because he did the mitzvah. Says it was a shaky rickety ladder. says, "One last go. How could I go? Is going to kill me." In other words, Hashem told you, "Yeah, but don't put yourself in a mass of was a grandson of a barbar." He says if my grandfather would have learned this well he wouldn't have gone off to the famous he wouldn't have sinned what happened to he saw a guy listening to his father being a good boy doing and then he falls off a ladder and dies he saw the tongue we're going to say it tomorrow or we're going to say he's one of that he saw his tongue beingleazer. Yeah, I think it was a kazer. >> It's two different years on the story. >> Okay. But basically saw his tongue. It was in the garbage. This tongue that that talks he doesn't know. I'm going to finish the last two words in a different place at a at another. You can finish the words yourself. >> Oh, I got to show you the video. 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