CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 14 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] Good morning. >> The Mishna tells us that if you chef an animal on chaber, you're allowed to eat from the says, "Yes, we have to wait a day." And the whole is who does it go according to according to which we're going to go through different scenarios different says the said in the name of a day this goes according to the says hey which is it and the rest will see from a different place we got to learn a little also on the plane Omar. So, as we said before, if somebody you're allowed to use the but says that you have to wait at least a day and the said it must go according to now the is going to try to decipher which it is. There's aud that says that if you don't have something prepared before Shabas, it's for instance, it says the if you have gourds that are detached, obviously Rash is detached. She allowed to cut them up in front of an animal and you allow to cut up a dead carcass and give it to the dogs on Shabas. Meaning of Shabas was alive. Now you have a dead animal. You allow to give it to the dogs. You can't give it to the dogs. Why? Because it wasn't prepared to give to the dogs beforehand. So it's something that's not ready to go to feed your animals before Shabas. You can't just because we came ready on Shabas. It's awesome since it wasn't prepared from the day before. It's awesome over here also by not only by it wasn't food. So Rabbi said think about it. What could you do with an animal other than eating it? >> Give it to your Give it to your animals. Animal food says legado means for offspring. A lot of people have animals for offspring. And that's what this guy had it for. He didn't have it to eat. He didn't want to eat it. Eating is the last stop. When you have nothing else to do with this animal, then you eat it. But otherwise, it could produce. We know an animal. How do you if it wasn't available for eating? It was it wasn't food. It was legato. So how do you switch designations on? How do you go from designation of legato for offspring and go to food? It's there for both. So this is the sugita and the explain we're talking about that he did a bit he didn't do says but you have to wait a full day you can't just eat it right away and we're saying that meant it goes according to we're trying to figure out which and that's why it takes us through a trip through shas different things in shas beautiful sugas So now we're talking about on the plane. What does it mean yesher? Yesher means for instance this case of truma person has wine atmaka wines they shipped in don't ask. So they have this wine and you want to drink wine but the the truma m is right before shabas let's say and you don't have enough time to to separate truma and the micer and m sheni. So you just say listen I'm going to drink the wine right now and whatever is left over that is what I intended to give before I started drinking the wine that so that's called retroactive clarification. What do you mean that that's what I intended? You didn't intend you maybe the trumas in the what you drink. No whatever is left over in the battle the 20% that's left over in the battle that's what I intended to do. So it says like this that's where we're holding and we want to prove that this butuda only goes with no butuda argues on this whole kind of hera five lines from the bottom we accomplish a lot during the day if somebody purchases wine from I don't have a lot of light here. So if I'm making a mistake in the reading, you'll tell me if a p person purchases wine from a kusi. What's a kusi? They came in it was a nation that pretended they wanted to be they wanted to be part of they really mean it. They were faking it. The bottom line is even if they meant it and we're going with they meant it. They wanted to they came in with good intent but later on they just went off and they they did their own thing but they kept a lot of stuff. They they keep their rises. They don't keep the raons and therefore they do take someers but you cannot rely on them when you buy wine from them that they took off for you. They'll take for themselves not for you. So what do you do? You're in a you're in a a little bit of a pickle and you want to take some quickly but you don't have the time. You don't So what do you do? You say two out of the hundred that I'm about to drink over here. I want to set aside. I'm not going to do it now. I'm going to do it later. That will be for the cayenne. That's called truma asaraish. And I'm going to give 10 out of the 98 that are left. We'll call it 9.8. The just rounds it off. 10. We're going to go to the ley tisha. Now we're really left with only like nine 90. So we're going to take 10% of that nine is going to myself called messer sheni. But for the mi you have to do something called you take that nine. You say that nine is going on money that I have in my drawer. That money I'm going to bring up to one day and use it as my but that you do right away. The true is going to come out later says like this. So if you buy wine from so says this and here you see the is proving doesn't hold a breer. It doesn't hold retroactive clarification. You cannot separate retroactively. says no who told you maybe over there is something special time there's a great reason why you shouldn't use bra when it comes to tr why imagine if you drink tel it's is right so what's the trick you're going to drink tel you drink but it's okay why because when you have something left on the bottom that's going to become the true miser and what if you don't do it at then what if you drink the whole thing then you drink the then you drink What if the bottle breaks? What if it spills? So you can't drink. It's going to come out that you drink tel retroactively. retroactively drink devil because you never separated from and that's the reason why in that case but maybe in general in in the rest of he holds of retroactive clarification of don't you agree that it's possible that it will break I'm not worried about that if it happens it happens but that's not the concern we can use retroactive clarification we can use what are we going to use in our shas for bro. You can't use retroactive clarifications already. They have a they have a >> they have a copyright on that on that. >> You have the first time you have to explain what it is. Great. So how do you know the doesn't hold a bra from the So for this I have to give a little bit of a hikama. And here's a beautiful um there's something called you're not allowed to go more than 2,000 AMA on Chavis outside past your house if there's no etc. So a guy has a house and he's allowed to go 2,000 approximately 4,000 ft. Let's call it. He needs to go 4,000. Okay. Yeah. He needs to go further. So there's a trick. He can reposition his home. So what does he do? As you see in this diagram right over here, his real house is the real house in the picture. His pretend house is where the kala is. So he puts a kala over there. Now his real his home becomes where the kala is. So now he could go from that kala another 2,000 further cuz his house is by the kala. And from the kala he could go cuz you could always go 2,000 in every direction anyway. from your own house, from your brick and mortar home, you can go 2,000 2,000 to the right, to the left, northeast, southwest. So what he did was he reposition this house is is Mo to where the is. And now from the he goes 2,000 in each in each direction. So he'll sleep in his real brick and mortar home. He'll take a to his house, 2,000. And from there he can go in ei in either direction 2,000 because that's his real home is his real home. So he'll go another 2,000 hours. He'll go like this. But what happens is since his real home is his kala. So he can only go 2,000 back to his house. But he can't even go into his backyard. He can't even go one past his house cuz that's already 2,000 away from the kala. His real home is by the Yeah, Jamie, you with me? Sole tiring today. Oh. So what happened was there's a rabbi. There's a rabbi. He's coming to speak. Coming to speakari is coming to speak. But you don't know if is going to be 2,000 Amas to the east or 2,000 Amas to the west. You don't know in which direction you need to make your Arab. So what you do is you position two kalas. One like in this picture, but another one in the other direction. And then when he shows up and everybody says, "Oh, he's he's on the east." So you use that kala. Is that bra or not bra? Here's where it's for sure 100% and they're both speaking in two different directions. So you put two and then you have to see you're going to ask who's better who's better you're going to do all the stuff and then on Shabas you're going to decide which one you want to go to. So what you do is that is 100% braer. Why? Because on chabas you want to decide which one of the two arrows was the you you can't live in two places at the same time. You can't pretend you lived on this and this two different directions. So you want to choose one of the two kalas as your home and you want to do that on chabas and say oh on Friday that's the one I really meant not the other one. That's called retroactive clarification. That's a 100%. But what if it's just and you don't know if it's from the right to the left? Then you could choose and the is going to explain what the difference is. Says like this. Let's see inside. How do I know that doesn't believe in retroactive clarification in he can't make a condition on two different rabbis? What could he do? If it's one rabbi and you you're not sure before Shabas, you know, you don't have WhatsApp, you don't have a cell phone, you live 2,000 years ago. >> What? [laughter] >> Or mandro or manro where you really don't have a cell phone. Not the guys that have two and one for the and one for the Yeah. So they have okay whatever. So he doesn't know if he's going to come from the east or the west. So he makes two of him and that's okay. You'll on Chavis when you find out where he is you'll use the one in that direction. We have to understand right away why is that enough? Why is that not but if you have two coming and you just don't know which one you want to listen to and then on you want to decide everybody asked the question why is it two rabbis different we say you can't do that why because you cannot decide on shabas which you want to use and just if you don't know when the where the rabbi is showing up from that's also Beautiful already showed up to town. He's already here. You have a lack of knowledge. So what do you do? You make an on two of say listen I don't know where he is. I know he's here. When I find out then I'll then that's the real but not it's not going to happen on Shabas. It happens right now. Right now, the that's closer to that's the that's going to work. The other one is a joke. I just don't know which one it is. I don't know. Hashem knows right now. Hashem knows it happened already. He's here. It's just a lack of. So, it's a I'm making it not a retroactive clarification. And holds in this case says an he holds there's no bra. Here's a clear-cut case where reviewer says straight out and we don't have a reason why he says it here. It's just because he doesn't hold a retroactive clarification. Now, let's see this unbelievable video. I thought it's galdic. It's short and sharp. >> [music] >> Should I go to the rock and fish and he has $2,000 from the rock and fish in that in the next direction? Okay. So, so now we're again, let's do a quick recap. The Mishna says that when you're allowed to eat the of somebody who on Shabas Rav says that it's only you have you have to wait a full day and that it goes according to we're going to see maybe it's not but the said it's oh let's take this off says the so which is this that says you have to wait a whole day it's the famous of the vessels the We're talking about a cle. This is a cle you're allowed to move this on chabas. Yes. What happens if this breaks breaks? You have no usage for it. But says you're allowed to move the broken pieces. Not I'm not talking about is going to step on it. All those talking about just are you allowed to move it? provided that you could do something with it. There's two things that are going on here. Something with it and then we're going to see the original, which means not stop something, something that's very similar to the original usage. But now we're not there. We're in a very weak thing. If you can do something with it, then you move it. For instance, you have a bowl, a mixing bowl that broke. So if you could cover something whether you cover another vessel, then it's considered non broken glass. If you could here something like this, a very small opening, you cover it. Okay? So it won't be my you know, you have some sort of usage. It's the weakest usage ever. No, no, no. I'm going to be here. It has to be similar to the original usage. Therefore, if it originally was a bowl, so then you have to it has to be used as a bowl. They should be able to be put in it some sort of smaller tapel. And if it's broken glass should be able and what what do we do before? Before it was a glass holding oil. Now also you have to be able to hold a little oil in it. Otherwise, And therefore, what does that have to do with our So, we're talking about an animal. This this animal wasn't designated yet for eating. It's this animal wasn't there before Shabas. It's like a cle that has no usage right now. And it becomes awesome. I don't like this car over there by the cle that broke when chabas came in was a great cle and now that it's a broken cle it's something else something new was created here it went from being a nice mixing bowl a tiny little thing now I have to see is it the same whatever but something new happened there over here this animal wked walking around was food and today it's also food. So it's so it's broken food. It's a little bit different but it's it's food. Anything that even even if it changed the way it looks. It used to be I don't know a loaf of bread and now it's a bunch of crumbs. Okay. But still food. You're right that it looks different but it's food. Food is food. Over here you had a walking piece of meat. Now, it's a a dead piece of meat, but it's a piece of meat. Contains its title, which doesn't like in a second. You'll see. We learned you're not allowed to squeeze fruit to to get juice out of it. And if the juice came out by itself, you're not allowed to drink from it. Why? Because it's that you might squeeze fruit on Shabas. And that we know you know how to squeeze in. But if these fruit were designated to eat, but you have a bunch of grapes, you bought them to serve them for dessert on chabas. You're allowed to drink the grape juice that comes out of them. Why? Because there's no that you might come to squeeze them because you're not going to squeeze such grapes. Those are grapes designated for eating. But if these grapes, they're for for juice. then it's awesome. So meah by by food by by this animal too. The Gmorra asks even though yeah it should be be considered even though it changed it's it the way it looks it's not considered it's not a new thing. It was there before. So says we already explained no but that we're discussing here argues in that that what that according to will be to drink from this since it's there to squeeze and get juice. So he's good with it. So two byita would also rebud would agree that he thought about it and therefore we have to be concerned he might shuck this animal on chas. We're trying to fit into Rav Rav is the one that said that you have to wait a whole day to eat a of somebody and we said that goes according to so but Rav himself the Ruda argues on. So one more and then we'll do the rest tomorrow. So who's Rav referring to when Rav says you have to wait a full day? This is of the candles. The famous candle one. I think a lot of people know that of candles today when you light candles. We know that it becomes a buses you know how to move it. So similar what's that holds that a brand new candle you move on chabas but not a used one. Why something called it's a disgusting thing you know full of oil and wax and all that. It's got it's it's gross and therefore you don't move it on chopped MMA wants to say that by us also there's there's a similar type of just like something grosser so becomes more what's the connection he never said it he did say it candles that are made out of metal. So now it became it itself has an animal also. What's the what's the connection? An animal before shab was a it had is to it. It's just like a candle that you can't move. It's like a a buses to something else. That's a little crazy. But it is it's because So now it's it's and you're going to try to and make that is going to hold that it's have a wonderful day and have a restful evening to everybody in Morocco. [music] Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today. mdysponsor.com or [music] sponsor atmop.com.