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CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 139 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky
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- Good Morning - 138B - 139A - 139B - Have A Wonderful Day -- MDY presents: "Nothing but the Daf", R’ Eli Stefansky’s MDY (Mercaz Daf Yomi) Shiur in a concise format - all the clarity of the full daf Shiur, with Reb Eli's unique charts and visual aids, without any extras (emails, stories etc.) Perfect for Chazarah or anyone who wants a quick, focused Daf.
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[music]
Good morning.
Judah Pearson. Very interesting email.
Reveli, I recently watched one of your
was truly inspired. It's been a long
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learning
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think I should join the live share we
are currently holding even though it's
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share you'll know you always start you
have the inspiration that day.
In fact, MBY started
in the middle of middle of a per
and you make [clears throat]
will be your start today. You never push
it off to the next.
It's interesting. We know
is when you you
ship the mother away. She's sitting on
the on the eggs while she has little
chicks. You send her away and you take
the eggs. It's one of the only two
mitzvah in the promises.
It's not so not so not so simple to do
the mitzvah. As we're going to see,
there's a lot of different rules. One of
the famous of is it can't be something
that's ready readily available. Has to
be something you bump into.
Okay.
This mitzvah is on a person. It's not
nothing to do with the land. Nothing
with this applies also in London in New
York.
This is only for birds that are not but
birds that were consecrated. They were
set aside for a carbon doesn't work. Is
going to say what exactly happened over
here? What was the case? How did it
becomeish
is if it's yours and you made it heish
then there's no on your bird. You can't
do on on pigeons that you own and you
you you you raise. So how did you make
it? You you you picked it up and you
made it. So you picked it up. So it's
already this the story is over
[laughter]
just to remind cuz we're like one after
another after another. But we learned
we're finishing up in three days. Three
days we're finishing up a full of uh
proim that just major mitzvah was one of
the
so one of the pro was we learned all
about covering the blood of a of a of a
bird. So there something that that has
more of a in
you cover the blood of a of a deer and a
bird
whether you happen upon it or not.
There's only one one type of animal you
can do. You can't chase away a goat.
only a bird
and only when it's not readily available
to you, you just happened upon it.
Let me give you a case of something
that's not readily available.
Now, you would think that a chicken is
available. It's yours. But this is a
case where the chicken or the duck, the
goose, ran away. Once they run away,
that's it. It's over.
Yes, you owned it yesterday. Today you
don't own it anymore. That's about
birds. Once they fly away and they're
gone, they're gone.
So
they they went ahead and they they made
their own little nest in the orchard.
That's considered that you they're not
available. And therefore
of even though they were yours
yesterday,
it's your bird. You you you brought this
bird up a long time. It flew away.
That's it. The moment it flies away,
it's no longer yours.
What if they made a nest in your home in
a private property?
These pigeons that come and they they
they live by you, they they fly away,
but they come back to you. That's
already considered readily available.
What about a non-coosher bird? There's
no
If you have a non-coosher bird sitting
on kosher bird
eggs
or the opposite, you have a chicken
roosting on non-coosher eggs.
In that situation,
k there's a bird called a kay
translates it as a partridge
seems like this bird other birds take
advantage of it and they they're like
parasites and they lay eggs in its nest
and this kra doesn't care or doesn't
realize that he's he's um what's the
word roosting
>> he's um roosting and and
>> do he's
these
random eggs and all a sudden like he
wakes up like one day it starts he gets
all excited it starts cracking and like
a random bird pops out like what are you
doing here that so if aa
sits on the eggs that then you can do on
it but
say if it's a no says
and the two of them they said different
things very very similar but slightly
different is going to say well we don't
know who said what
so listen we just decided go back go
back we have
not we have we have which we just
finished we have
and all the say the same exact
applies in
it's the
So these say look it's it's not
necessary to say these but it's
necessary for one of the four or five
that we're that we had and therefore we
say it on all why
these this mitzvah of for instance
applies in America why wouldn't it apply
in America has nothing to do with their
destro it's not fruit it has to do with
the human being and human beings
regardless where they live they live on
the moon they live on the moon I don't
Oh, we have to see maybe this or not.
But if you live in any country,
there's no reason for the mission to say
those words. But
there was was important to tell you that
it applies also. Why we had
the brings who argues and says do
it only works in shearing of the wool.
Therefore the say we don't we don't like
even though we do pass like the says we
don't pass we we hold like
is only is in also are something very
similar the other one says
the talks about that
the applies even when there's no migd
that was not necessary because of course
applies when there's no migdash it's
user to eat the giranha And nobody have
oh you're allowed to eat or blood when
there's no mdash.
So then why does it say it
one of the the theim called it was a
whole about
a mother and son in the same day that we
need to tell you that applies also when
there's no why
that whole is referring to don't bring a
carbon mother and a baby in the same day
that only applies when there's
so sad we don't have we don't Kurbanus.
That's why we have we have to go and we
have to dive in like crazy on. If we had
carbon it would be a different
situation. You do you do you do you go
you get rid of it right away and you're
done. You're clean.
There's no
there's no there's no concept.
So the Mishna had it say once it says it
sticks in
the same exact even though it's not
necessary
both of them both
hold
but the one of the the lines in our
Mishna says it it applies to and
actually in our says it doesn't apply in
very very necessary most of the most of
the we learned do not apply
by like
doesn't apply in hedges
of course applies by carbon
and we had also you'll remember as soon
as we start talking about it what
is a literal is it's a piece of the
animal you can't eat the senue You can't
eat it. So who cares if you made it a
that where where did the is go? It
doesn't run away this or it doesn't fly
out. It doesn't it's not
but wait a minute. We already
established that's not talking about a
regular animal that was 100% and then
later on you made it or I'm sorry let's
say and then you want to eat it. Of
course that's not going to the the the
is of is not going to go away. But I'm
telling you that
it mother was a carbon and it the mother
became pregnant and the first few weeks
of pregnancy there's no g at all but
kach was first it's a carbon and later
on through the development in the
pregnancy it developed a senu
so I would think
maybe one should imply the other
and why did you have to come out this
whole thing of that it's the mother was
because you're saying it's of course the
doesn't fly away
so then to begin with you shouldn't ask
why does it say
you're right all the other mitzvah let's
say that's important to tell me that it
doesn't apply when there's no bdash so I
say it also by of course it applies by
by I'm sorry by as well by it once we
have this idea that not every word in
these is necessary they just mimic each
other all five mimic each other you have
five that are not similar one
some apply here some don't apply here
but the is going to be consistent so
that a kid learning is going to
because he said it four times already.
Sometimes it works, sometimes I need it,
sometimes I don't need it. Some I need
it by so I say by all five. Some need I
don't need. Okay, I don't need it's not
does not apply to
you shall send away the mother.
Sometimes you have a to do something
else. When you find a bird
when you find it's like it's like you
just bumped into a bird that doesn't
belong to you belongs to it belongs to
grab it and bring it bring it back to
the
you have a bird that killed a human
being. Avi sent me a video, but I didn't
see it of a bird and the Gumar talks
about it. A bird once, and the Gumar
talks about like a a bird pecked a baby
in the head in the soft spot by its
brain and killed it. So that's how a
bird could kill a Listen, if you if you
have a a giant bird that's flying at 100
miles an hour and hits you, it could
break a glass. It could break its beak
is very powerful. It could it could kill
a child, could kill an adult also. Why
not?
You don't when you find him
you're not you don't have to do
say what's the case
if you already had in other words they
they already he was sentenced to death
he should die
he wasn't sentenced oh listen to this
listen to this even in a situation where
there's
You have a listen to this. You have
you have a a mitzvah to get involved
over here
>> on this bird.
>> On this bird
>> just like you have a mitzvah with a
human being. You have a mitzvah on a
bird.
You got to get rid of the bad.
Why? Why if it's are you? What exactly
happened?
What happened? How did he become? He had
a a a nest in his house made
such a situation.
If it if it's there in your house
there's no that's why a lot of people I
don't know I did the only time I did it
was on my porch. So how do you do it on
your porch it and this and I don't know
how good it is.
So what happened was you're walking down
the street, you're walking in in the in
the forest and all of a sudden you see a
nest
and you made it.
It doesn't even work.
It has to be yours in order to
has to be in your possession. So it
wasn't your possession. What happened?
He lifted up the chicks and then he made
them.
Then he put it back and the mother came
and she kept on roosting over there.
Says that's not you can't do on that.
Even if it was an egg even was if you're
just walking through the forest and you
try to do something like that, it
wouldn't work. Why?
It's considered as if
it's not
just a regular guy walking down in the
forest and he grabs the chicks and he
puts them back into the nest.
Then the mother came back.
situation.
Ella, what happened was
maybe perhaps you lifted up the mother.
You made her and she went back and she
roosted.
But in that case,
you were on
immediately when you happened upon this
mother
doesn't go away.
If you made a deer, you said this is and
you it there's no ondish. What if sorry
youed a deer? So the moment you shifted
it there's you must cover the blood
and then you decided to make it
the that you had of doesn't go away.
So to over here you bumped into this
bird you have of then you made it the
doesn't take away your just like that
doesn't take away says we have tar
no you owned these birds they were in
your house you own them you had a bunch
of pigeons and you said the mdish
you said that I'm making these [snorts]
these chips I'm making them heish when
they grow up I'm going to bring some
mdish I'm make them an
as a carbon these these chicken these uh
these pigeons that's why they're they're
they're babies [clears throat] the how
else are we going to do it
and this is the key word they rebelled
they flew away and they came back and
now there's a whole situation that the
mother's back that they're all back the
problem is they went off and they came
back so you should know that the gusha
the hedish that I did on the birds
didn't go away
That's that's
are very very similar just is talking
about
I made it into a
says the same exact thing but I didn't
make it that severe I made it only
you took a chicken and you made it for
the upkeep of the
says it's talking about that he the less
because
he's telling you a major even though
there's a less but that remains and
therefore he can't do any
but why why did have to say such a
severe thing he made you why I have to
go that far even if he made it
no no I said it on purpose
when a person donates it to
He makes a distinction. If it has severe
like for the doesn't go anywhere. You
can never get rid of it.
If it's only for the
it's not so severe. It's only for its
monetary value not itself.
once and rebels and flies away
then the less could fly away also
that's why only said the sever which
doesn't go anywhere and that's why you
can't do if you find it later on
says that there's no such thing once
it's you don't know where it is that's
your problem
this
is in a who's treasure. He's somewhere.
He's on this on this earth somewhere and
it's somewhere
is everywhere. He owns everything.
What's the difference if it's in your
pocket and the other guy's pocket? So,
we're going to see something similar.
We're talking about he only donated it
for its monetary value and it rebelled
and flew away.
asks him
at the end of the day.
It rebelled and the flew away.
No, it didn't fly away. It flew away
from you. But the is still there
somewhere. He's that bird is in this
world somewhere in some forest enjoying
itself. But it's still
lish.
is the one that says the bird is
nowhere. The the flies away. Says the is
everywhere in the world. But we see that
they say the exact opposite.
It's very similar situation. Instead of
on a chicken, the is on money. This 100
bill is for the monetary value for the
mdo.
They got lost. It's gone.
says that the money the the chicken the
douche is everywhere in the world it's
somewhere it's not your problem all of a
sudden he says over here you have to it
is your problem the money you have to
return to ah that $100 bill is in
somebody else's pocket what difference
if it's in my pocket and his pocket all
pockets belong to the and you shouldn't
be no
it's a contradiction
says There's no such thing as oh it's
everywhere. It got lost. You have to pay
the mdash.
He literally uses word for word. He
stole the frombi
and he says
no no the money is in somebody's pocket
owns all pockets.
It's a contradiction. says
he heard these words from therefore he's
repeating them. He retracted his initial
thing. He believes that all pockets are
the same. All forests are the same.
Doesn't matter if the bird is in your
house or in the forest. It belongs to
the
contradiction says.
Oh, so anybody that's part of MDY knows
there's a massive difference between a
person that says I accept upon myself to
bring the an animal to or if a person
says I'm bring this animal there. So
if he says on this money as real if he
says does he have to pay for the mana or
not?
>> Yeah.
>> Very good. By the birds is zoo. So if
the bird gets lost does he have to pay
another one is real? No.
Wait a minute. How could argue with
this? It says mafurish. What's the
difference between a nether and in the
nether here? We have this thing. Yeah.
The zoo.
So he he put it on himself. The onus is
on him. The animal gets lost. Too bad.
You have to bring another one.
He points to this animal. And if it goes
bye-bye, you don't have to buy bring
another one.
If it dies, you have to bring another
one.
If you say,
you say it's upon me to bring this, what
does it mean? Not to say a word and to
make this animal. is to literally bring
it to the if he didn't bring it to the
he didn't do a just saying something and
making something's garnished.
But when it comes to monetary value that
you don't have to bring into
why if you say you don't because you
designated this for the now you don't
know where it is. That's not your
problem. It's somewhere. It's in world
somewhere and you did your job.
It says
what? It's like zoo this.
Next one is interesting.
Can you bring a a house as a carbon? No.
So obviously he meant it should be for
the upkeep upkeep of the
is the case of even as will tell you
when you say zoo and the house goes you
don't have to bring another one cuz he
says only this you didn't say me you
point to the house but if a person says
and it's talking about it's not talking
about the several of it's talking
A house is only for the monetary value.
So there's a cash. You see over here
even when you give [clears throat] it's
says it's somewhere in the world. Who
cares? Somewhere in the world. And over
here it says no you have to pay.
The last this is when the house fell and
therefore there's zero left in the
world. The whole is my money. I g
donated money to it's in his pocket.
It's in the guy's pocket. I don't know
where it is, but it's in his pocket.
Hashem knows where it is. But over here,
the house fell down. What's the value
now that after the house fell down? A
big zero.
But if it's available, it's in the
world, then at the end of the day,
we got to turn the page. There's no way
we're not going to turn. We got to turn
and then we'll just stay there.
What's this? This is the original chart
that when you are
you say my you say you look at a guy
here in the room you say oh I want to
give that amount to the bish now you
look at him if he's 60 years old so you
go to the top he's a zakar he's in this
room right he's a zar look oh above 60
he's worth 15 I just want to make him
feel a little bad below 60 he's worth 50
there's a little bit of a drop there
from 50 to 15 what happens if a guy puts
aside money he puts aside money and it
gets lost it gets lost so And he says
everybody agrees that if it gets lost,
you're not the is going to flip that
around and says it was a mistake. The
word doesn't apply here. Everybody
agrees that you're But now we say
everybody agrees.
There's no way to say to say it without
the word lie. You have to say a lie. So
a lie doesn't prove that you really that
that it's on you. As he explained to us,
he said a lie. It's on you.
You have to say the word lie. How you
going to say it? What are you going to
say?
>> What do you mean? A guy says
what? You have to say a lie.
He's going to say I want his that guy's
a man. Who's going to pay for it? Who?
What?
It's not true. You don't have to say the
word. I have a way to say without a line
that you
he didn't say a lie
me in my in my worth my value or
me me in his value and you understand
he's talking about the
in addition says
so when a person has fruit
>> after separating truma the gdola and
messer rishon we take 10% of the
remaining crop this is [music] micser
sheni these are holy fruits which must
be brought up to yushaim and eaten in a
state of tahara
but if the [music] farmer lives far away
and it's too difficult to carry all the
produce to yushalim the halaka allows
him to redeem [music] them this way he
transfers the kaduca from the fruits
onto the money it's important to
remember when a person redeems his own
Micer fruits. He must add a homish.
With the money that has now absorbed the
kaduca, he goes up to Yusha life.
[music]
There he uses the money to buy new
fruits or other food. And the kaduca
[music] transfers from the coins to the
newly bought fruits.
And now when he is finally in Yusha, he
eats the micer sheni fruits in Tahara
with kaduca and with great joy.
>> Okay. So
the 10% you you don't want to bring it
up to it's too heavy. So you transfer
that into money the money becomes and it
got lost. Now what do you do? Got stolen
lost.
You could transfer
you don't have to you don't have to pay
the or or do it again and buy fruit in
your slime again. The money I lost
the same applies to that you don't have
to pay for the money that you said that
man whatever he's worth 15 or 50
whatever it's worth that money got lost.
Maybe you don't have to replace it. You
do have to replace it.
So how are you telling me that you don't
have to replace it? There's no there is
that you you are responsible until it
goes to the the
says you're right.
Oh
no, there is a responsibility. If you
lose it, you have to pay for it.
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