CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 130 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] Good morning. Here we go. Easy stuff. Just remember, it's easy. So, we're talking about the matonics, the gifts. The Torah says talks about a sheep and a cow. What's left out here is an like a deer. You should give to the What are those? So, first of all, this is the famous picture. I only have one. It's of me giving the va the three I'll show you what it is. It's the jaw. It's the the fore leg and the one of the the stomach here as a diagram on the uh on the animal where it comes from the ca the royal. This this is the the jaw comes with a little meat with a tongue. Some people love tongue. They spend good money on it. And this is the ka. Give all this to the kayen. Now, as we see in the Mishna, this is something that we do today. There's something to do in America, in England. This is something that every time you sh an animal, this should go to the kite. Now, you might ask yourself, and we're going to talk about this. You're supposed to give it to a kayen. Everybody knows that Kramer is not a but he's married to the daughter of a that's a special if you're married to the daughter this this goes also in outside of there is a that says not but the doesn't even bring him down and some want to say that's why maybe that's why they don't do it anymore and most of the meat comes from but that's not I don't know if that's the reason this is mikdash and outside in other words without today no mdash this only applies to regular animals that we but not in the mikdash when you even if it's aim and most of it goes to you and you don't give the mat to the the you don't give which are called mat we always call them you don't give the gift to the if it's if it's a carbon. So the M says you would have aimer but you don't have a in order to undo the we have we need a what's the it makes a lot of sense that you should give the the from a carbon from the you should give the all the you don't have to give the the breast and the how do you say in English this is what it says about the fine. So from a carving you have to give it's different than this. So if from a regular mundane animal I shut in my backyard I have to give the three gifts but I don't have to give the other two. So a carbon that I have to give to the so certainly I should add the other three as well for that I need. So the bottom of the basically very easy gimmar where the gimar goes and says well the is not so strong because I could say this and the says well no I have this thing that you don't have the so you have another this thing very very quick and short but the the point of the is why do I need means only these this is what I give to the here you see it in this by the in the says It's like three lines from the bottom. I should have highlighted in red. This these two I give to the I don't give him five gifts only two. Okay. Next. Now we have two. There's two types of kachum. There's two types of carbonas. We we learned you just came in now. So I'm putting on the screen and m if I say that this animal should be and should be a carbon. It gets a it's inherently kadesh. Its body becomes kadesh. Even if you were to redeem it now you just you can't just redeem a carbon. But let's say it broke its leg for good. has a major blemish. So you can redeem it, but guess what? It still has douche in it. You know, it's still it still smells from a carbon even after you redeem it and you can't do things. You can't work it, you can't shear it, it's still kadesh has traces of there's another animal that I donate to the B mikdash for for its money, for its value, not for a carbon. Why why would I do it? Let's say I have a I have an animal in my house. I notice my animal's limping away. There's broken leg. It's a balm. I cannot bring it as a carbon. They won't accept it. Even if I made it as a carbon, it's not a carbon. My when I say this would be an it doesn't work. So the most I can do with it is I saying I want to donate this for an >> value the B will take care of I give I bring them some midash they sell it at auction whatever they do whatever money comes out is is money that goes to nyl that's very different that's basically once they redeem it then this animal is 100% it goes back 100% to where it began there's no traces of I could cheer its wool I could uh I could drink its milk I could use its uh offspring whatever I want it's a regular hul so the says, "So if I have an animal that has a major blemish before I made it, in other words, I can't make it really." So then I made it a little bit of kadusha. I gave it I gave it a monetary and that monetary is only that you know we we sell it and we take the money and we buy something a carbon with it. ndu and you redeemed it. So that's it. Now what what happens? What's its status right now after I redeemed it complete? Therefore, so all the stuff applies to it. If it gives birth, it's a it's a female gives birth. The first offspring is akar and that has to do with our you have to give [laughter] you have to give this you have to give the the gifts here. So now the actually the mission actually calls matonics goes back starts off and now we're talking about matonics it's shorter and it goes it becomes regular mundane animal you could shear its wool of it and you could work it and its offspring if you if even if she became pregnant before you you redeemed but right now it's this animal is a complete hulen and its offspring is complete and it's milk you drink the milk after you redeem it instead of before before the before you redeemed it even because it doesn't have an inherit it's if you have a if you have an animal in your backyard and you say I want your my animal in my backyard I want the second animal to be instead of this animal has a carbon you didn't do anything. That's not tumor. What's tumor? Tumor means I have a very skinny animal that I said I wanted to be. This is a classic, right? It's not da this. It could be a fat animal also. But I have a a really bad animal that I gave to Hashem as a carbon. And then I realized what am I doing? I have a much better one. So I say, okay, that better one should be instead of the first skinny one now. But what if and if this animal before it was redeemed it died. So redeem it after its death. Mer this is going on everything we just read that if there's a balm who is aar has a it doesn't matter when he's born he's born with micer also has inherent with a without a what's micer every 10th animal you own every you own 10 animals so you put them through the gate and the 10th one becomes miser whether it has a m or not the mice makes it. Here's a question. Let's say you go and you buy 10 animals from a store. They sell sheep. You buy 10 animals. You go to a farmer, buy 10 animals. Do you have to give mahima? >> You say no. Where did you get that from? You're guessing. You know it. >> Newborn. >> Oh, >> he's right. Well, it's newborn. But you bought it. You bought newborns. A bunch of newborns. But you are right. You are right. It's a It's okay. We'll see in a second. [cough and clears throat] Oh, so now what happens if you made it? You made it into and then it be a mo then it got a boo boo on its foot or it has a very simple blemish that's going to go away and then you made it. So it's real. Then it then it achieves then you you get it becomes inherently kadesh. So now all that we just learned are reversed. Fine. They became a do and you redeemed it because it has a m you have to redeem it. Now it becomes what's that became possible. You can't bring it as a carbon anymore. Why can't you bring it? Because it has has a terrible injury, a lifelong injury. So you can't bring it as a carbon. So it became possible. But I'm going to redeem it. So what what happens? It's already a carbon. It's already carbon. Carbon that gives birth afterwards is noar. And since it's a carbon. So what if I redeemed it? It still has traces of I like that word. It has traces of a carbon. And therefore it's from the mat from says you can't shear its wool. Let it grow. Let it like a like a nazer. That's it. You can't do anything with it. You can't work it. and its offspring. If it even though it g it became pregnant before you redeemed it and then then then it gave birth after you redeemed it doesn't matter. The isser the milk is awesome. And if you before you're redeemed, you're I just I before when I said so Rashi brings down this we we treat it like a like a like a deer and a deer doesn't have it doesn't have the doesn't have these things before and and you could say I want this second animal to be instead of this animal. to recover and if they die we should bury them. So the Mishna says and and in order to the is that what that you should have to give by the a regular you should have to give the no you don't but so I have a and I need a but says wait a minute why do I need a whole flies out the window why so let's just put this on the screen for a second here. I want to also every time you have a you should have to give a so that's why I have the word so says why should what's your should have to by you should have to give because you already give the and the and the so you should give another three also but that's not fair why because has something very special about it that But you have to if you have a firstborn you have to give it to the mikdash to the so it's more than a carbon in a way and that's why you have to give three three three gifts a doesn't have it doesn't have to give the three gifts says for that I'll answer there's something called a z a male a male can't give birth so he can't have aar yet you give the gifts from it. Skip >> what? Oh, the words. You're right. Learn from has the first shearing goes to the cen. When it comes to carbon, you don't have that. And because you have that shearing therefore you have to give the the the gifts but a carbon not so I'll bring a from goats goats don't have shearing there's no every 10 newborns you have to put into the barn they come out the door they become they become they have special they have ara where kbano don't have that let's say you have 10 newborns in the pen of the mdash. You don't have to give. Oh, so I'll bring a raya from what's a zak a 2-year-old like from last year's batch that he's done. Says they already not going into they're not going into the thing. They went into the deer and a carbon never goes into the into the barn for me. So he says, "Okay, so I'm going to bring this is the last one." What it is? I I didn't even see this last night, but it's a little box like he's trying to show that they bought it in a store. >> So that's what I was asking you and only one person knew. one of our um what's the lion seniors the the guy that went through shas a bunch of times he said there's no micer on something you buy from a store from a place so if you bought 10 young babies young sheep you don't give miser from it and let's say it's mother died at birth you don't give you don't give miser Don't bring me a from an orphan or from a something you purchase because all its brethren all its the other sheep that you didn't purchase that are mamish like him they do go from Isa. So he says that's not a fair question. Why? Because you're talking about it's it's um how do you say it's type its type its type is better. [snorts] [clears throat] If they talking about type when it's a carbon it's the same type so you can't bring from another type LMI. Okay. So at the end of the day I don't have a good way to to to throw out the I tried in all these different ways right over here on the chart. It didn't work. So I have a that tells me that a carbon you should have to bring an additional three gifts [clears throat] and for that I have the no. Okay, that's it. That's the end of that. Next one. This is a simple. Anybody can come with this. You should be asking the question yourself. Why is it Let me just make sure we're at the same thing. Okay. Why is it that when you when you have a mundane an animal in your backyard, you only give three gifts. You should give five. You should also give the just like in the mdash why if it's more in a way they have to give the three gifts and a carbon you don't give the three gifts so certainly you have to give the the simple gifts that the carbon gives a carbon you don't have to give any gifts but you have to give the two gifts you're giving already three gifts from the it's Certainly they should have to give the additional two gifts of only let's see we have the yeah it says this is this is the only thing you have to give these three things not five things okay this Because it's I would think what's the saying what are you what are you saying? Okay, you have you have to give. And now what? What do you do with you have to do something called which is like a you have to lift it up and down. You have to go right, left, the whole thing. And where are you going to perform that? If you can't perform it, you can't bring it. Where are you going to do it? He says he should always wave it in front of In other words. And you want him to do it inside the mdash. That's why you can't do it. So if you can't do it say you shouldn't do it. You can't you can't you can't wave. It's impossible. It's not it's not a waving. You're right. So I need the word. Let me ask you a question. I think is going to get this easy. the stuff that I'm supposed to give I'm supposed to give to Yas and instead of giving to Yas I eat it or I destroy it. Do I have to pay Yas or any Kai in the world? Do I have to pay? Why not? Good. So, we already know this. Look at if you destroy you destroy the belongings to pay. Let me just show you and then I'll do the thing. You think that you are pay why is he my time? We have two reasons. says means you see it right in front of you and then you have to give it. But if it's not in front of you, it's already devoured. It's already burnt. You don't have to do it. You don't have to give it. It's money that nobody could claim it. Every kayen could claim it and therefore we don't know what to do with it. You can't say it's yours can't say it's yours. Maybe it's Rab Shenberg's. So what's the difference? So says real quickly that the difference is if it's you really owe it to the but you don't know where to give it to but you really owe it. So you owe it. But if it says now you have a question, it says that the gifts are it's a it's a you go to and what does that mean? Just simple. You go to and you take it out. So means should tell you where it goes. No, they tell you how to divide it and who gets a piece as we're going to see in a second that they decide it should go to you don't give [clears throat] how do you know you give it to So that they should keep the whatever means hold up. Huh? If you don't learn, you don't get the the special portions of similar thing. You see from here that that when it comes to the gifts I think the other two gifts that you give from a but the other one's not to say that you're divided. You also have to give it to it means that the could take it out if you stole from the you didn't give it to the they could come and force you to pay for it. I we said it's it's money nobody could nobody could claim it the already received the gifts and you stole it from him asking if you stole from him what's the difference if a purchase in the store or somebody gave it to him as a gift but now it's his 100% you take it from him you're I don't need I don't need a I don't need to tell says what happened was that an animal and he told the client, "Do me a favor. Watch this animal. You have a nice freezer, a fridge. Put it in the fridge." Goes to the client and takes a knife and cuts out the three gifts and he steals it from the guy. >> He basically he took it from the heer. It's not stealing. He decided to do it on his own. Oh, that's the kadesh. Now it's in his hands. It's in his possession now. And you took it. You took it away from him. So, whoa, who told you you could have it? I was going to give it to my other friend. And you cop it away from him. Then I go to Bezan and I make him give it back to me cuz I was from Hefkar. I the client that took it. It was already the whole animal was in my refrigerator and I took it from the refrigerator. I took it from Hefar. I get it. I could go to the entire but you need to stick a little bit of we learned this a number of times. He holds like the says that something that's about to be given truma miser here gave you're about to give it a gift. So even though you didn't give it as a gift, it's as if it was given as a gift and therefore was a gift. I'm coping it. So this is a wealthy person. Let's say could you could you take could you go to the to the to the to the knock on the door, Mr. billionaire with 101 12 billion dollars in the bank, but right now I need a cup of water and I can't drink and I'm dying. So you go to the Tamui and you knock on the door and you you take you take from the you take money you take and do you have to return it? So [snorts] if you have to return it [cough and clears throat] means a guy that you know he's pretty pretty pretty he's comfortable. He doesn't have any food on him. So he goes and takes the gifts for him to take when he gets to his bank account wants to stay over here. Why does he have to pay back? There's a lot of poor people unfortunately in the world and they're all they all want his money. So it's there's nobody that could that could sue him. And we wanted to apply that also to to our of the to all the in the world and all the poor people in the world. Same thing. You're right. He's not to pay back. If he wants to be a nice guy, he should pay it back. Want to be it says the word he must pay back. It sounds like he has to is going to explain ask me from why why you ask me from it says in the end what's the argument say at that moment in time says you say he's ani he's a poor person but it doesn't say notice it doesn't say the word shalom they just throw out a logic at that moment he's poor and therefore what he doesn't have to pay. But you could infer it's because he was considered a poor person. But if he's a rich person and stole from he would have to pay back. No, no, no, no. I'm sorry. And that's it. In other words, over here it doesn't say. It just says he he's he's on at that point. It doesn't say you have to pay. So, we're talking about give it back. Have a wonderful day. >> Meritus of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today. mdysponsor.com or sponsor atmop.com.