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CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 128 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky
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- Good Voch - 127B - 128A - 128B - Have A Wonderful Week -- MDY presents: "Nothing but the Daf", R’ Eli Stefansky’s MDY (Mercaz Daf Yomi) Shiur in a concise format - all the clarity of the full daf Shiur, with Reb Eli's unique charts and visual aids, without any extras (emails, stories etc.) Perfect for Chazarah or anyone who wants a quick, focused Daf.
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[music]
Okay,
we are holding
by
Elon
Shanshak [snorts]
Boy Paris. No, we almost got the two
dots. That's by the
way. So, we have this this tree. Wow.
This is in bad bad shape.
But this tree
that is
either completely detached from the
tree, a branch either completely
detached or semi-attached.
What does conclusion? So what does that
conclusion mean? For all purposes, for
the two things that we know of, it's
completely removed from the tree. In
other words, this is completely detached
from from a tree. Are you allowed to
pluck a fig on chabas?
Yes. It's not attached to the ground.
It's it's just on a on a branch.
Is this fig right here? This fig
detached everything. If a sheriff
touches it, Tommy or not to.
this. Just because it's attached to a
branch doesn't mean it's attached to the
ground.
>> Who said it's part of the food? It's
food.
>> No, but who cares? We're not even
talking about the branch. It's on the
ground. He didn't touch the branch. He's
touching. I'm not even going in. Maybe
it's maybe it's not. I think it's not
mukt. But at anyway, two things. This is
considered completely detached. For two
things, the gar says for shabas, if you
pull it off the branch, it's not cliche.
And for tum it is to it's not attached
to the ground. Great. Now let's
continue.
Therefore the wants infer from here.
What if it was attached to the tree? I'm
a little horse for say if it's attached
to the tree and it dried out on the
tree.
Now the it says in the just one lion
it's so I would say oh it means that
it's completely attached for both things
number one for shabas if I detach if I
pluck off one of the figs I'm on chabas
even though it's completely
y look at this look how brown this this
is actually the best fig on this whole
branch right now the rest are all like
moldy and I don't know what the one that
Yoshi be painted
and also for the of that it won't be why
because it's attached to the ground just
like in the beginning of the
it goes is for two so is for two
for two things
for two things that what the main point
that we're trying to bring out here is
that it's not that if it's not like we
were saying the whole time that if
touches this fig that's attached to the
tree but it's dry that it is Tommy over
it's not
every time it says this in I think I
should ask my every time the next words
follow
the beginning of the is talking about
two things that are it's considered and
the end of the is only talking about one
great next
If an animal has a major situation,
what's the situation?
Its leg is dangling by a thread and then
you sh it. So the blood of the
makes it what do we call it? It
activates it activates. It's
what is the source of who says that the
dam the blood creates a because look
every animal every piece of meat every
fruit you have to get it wet with one of
the seven liquids. One of the seven
liquids is blood. Says this blood from
the is enough. Says not
interesting. Today we're going to see
six different ways to learn the then
we're going to have five different
I'm just saying large numbers. Six ways
to explain is huge. Then on towards the
bottom we're going to have five of the
same exact question which is basically a
freebie.
And then we have a nice long id. Great.
So what could be the the very short and
simple but
again what's
we have an animal
and it leg is dangling by a thread says
it's susceptible to tum right away
because it has blood from the says no
way
you have a large animal imagine a 2,000
lb animal and a 20 pound leg. Does it
make sense to you that a 2,000lb animal
should be a handle for 20 lb leg? You
have a handle. You have a a 5 lb handle
with a 2 lb hammer on top. Whatever
whatever the thing is the ratio. But the
a giant of animal should be a handle for
little foot. No, that's
another way to learn the
we have it on chabas a lot of times you
cut a kala you cut it a little bit too
much how do you know if you messed up if
you grab the small piece and the whole
kala rips away you know you messed up
that's what says if just cuz if you hold
the large piece and the the little one
still hangs on doesn't mean anything you
got to grab the small piece and if from
the weight it pops off then you you
don't have a schlam over there over here
also if I grab the leg and the and the
animal tears it away
then is that considered that it's
attached or not that's over here yes
it's attached by a thread but is that
thread
any good
okay no we said this
holds.
So what if you you if the if the big
part breaks off,
remember this cuz in in in in a minute
we're going to attack this. What does
Rome hold? Romero holds that even if the
big piece pulls away, it's fine. The
small and the big are attached right
now. They're attached
since it's possible to break away easily
like the like we pass by. So too when it
comes to a mandal leg that's about to
break off if it break off if you hold on
to it is broken off right now
says
also holds that that's
a contradiction
is it possible that we just said holds
that even if the small piece breaks away
from this large piece it's considered
they're attached
We're talking about truma
just we're learning tomorrow in the
Hebrew tonight we're going to be done
with this peric considered a tougher
peric you know a lot of concepts that
people are not familiar with here's a
concept what's a tuly that we know
everybody knows what tulyim is right
unless you started today is a person
who's t goes to the mikvah
let's say he goes in the afternoon he's
still semi-to semi now until what until
what happens if
aim touches truma
he makes it puzle
yes his tuma is super weak but if he
touches truma which is super sensitive
becomes puzzle so if you have a piece
you have a piece of
um
a pomegranate.
It's one of the it's for sure truma.
Well, not for sure cuz you have you have
a grape.
You have a little bit of a grape that uh
semi
attached to another to the other piece
of it and the touches it.
Now all of a sudden makes a distinction.
If you could hold on to it and it
doesn't break away then it's one but if
it breaks away it's two. We just said a
second ago there are that if it breaks
away it's one. We don't care if it
breaks away. Contradiction.
So says the
we must say that mayor when it comes to
he switched it around
what's the question at all
okay perhaps he could make a distinction
between
and other
mayor holds that if you break it off
it's considered two pieces
but another to is not is differenti
disagrees because it's weak the weak a
weaker type of but over here says that
is the same thing as other
maybe maybe does make a distinction
says that according to Rebi
only over here by does Rome switch a but
in general you see the holds here this
is a right holds the holds that when you
have two pieces one is a large piece one
is a small piece and if you grab it by
the small piece it breaks away it's fine
Another in the m what's the m again? If
you have an animal that has a severed
leg and it's dingling by a thread, it's
a dald and you it and you have blood. Is
the blood enough to be?
Yes.
the the animals a handle to the to the
tuma, but it's not a handle for just
because you spill water on one grape
doesn't mean the the the that is going
to go on the other grape
is different than tuma could travel
through. It has it's like electric
is like electric. You can make a
distinction,
right? Is there a do we say there's a
handle that could bring the the liquids
that touch one part of the animal to the
other part of the animal?
That's says no it doesn't work for water
for liquids.
It doesn't work for the for the liquids
to make it
says no
and that's not the problem. But what
happened was that
his his thought process of of getting
this guy to eat it, he said, "I'm going
to let the guy eat it." I made in this
whole We're going to have it tomorrow
also. Means to think I'm giving it to
the guy to eat. But when did when did
the water hit it? When did the the
actual happen?
You have a piece of fat
in a in a little village.
Nobody eats the fat over there. So, it's
not really food. It's not considered a
food.
You have to think that you're going to
give it to the guy. You don't have to
put it under liquids. Why?
Because it already had the liquids on it
at the time of the
We didn't see this. This new
when Oh, that's perfect. That's exactly
what we're saying. If the water touches
the yacht, does it go to the meat?
It's good. Valdic the dead chariots.
Okay,
you guys got it. Since the water touched
the handle,
does it is it susceptible to did it
activate the toma? Fine. But we're not
holding there now, unfortunately.
You have this uh this vegetable that you
you harvested
and when you rinsed it, you had in mind
that you're going to give it to an
animal. So, it's not human it's not for
human consumption.
There was a change of designation. You
decided
later on you you're going to make a
you're going to make a meal out of it.
Listen, we have great talent. Kobe, our
editor, we moved him over to making
videos now. He does. Do you still do
editing
also? Okay. Show you a very nice video
that he did. Here we go. Check this out.
This is so good.
He's thinking to give it to his animal.
It's not It's not for human. When he
rinsed it
made,
[music]
>> why are you washing that?
>> It's [snorts] for bunny.
Sally see
mish.
Oh, so the question is, is it tar
because you put it in the sink before
you saw the cookbook or
there's no
um no.
Yeah, he knows. He knows. He'll fix it.
Fine.
It's not posh. No, seriously. The mats
of the internet and this and that.
the the the the artists are struggling
because the internet is a little on the
weak side and this didn't come in the
right way on okay
and he says oh you're right
is it do we go with the first
no we go with the second that's
there is a handle for tum
But not for
I love this one. This is galdic.
There's a piece of blood on the animal
after the
and then he wipes the blood away. But
then he does the second after when you
do have to only do one simmon. The blood
the was only there for one simmon. So
what's the
it's not like a common concept in it's
unique for I mean it must be somewhere
else also but let's see where it says it
says over here and you know from okay
means does the begin and it's a long
long process and the whole thing is a
process or is it only at the end. If
it's only at the end, we have a major
problem. Why? Because the blood by the
time we got to the end was no longer
there. So there's no there was no by the
time it was end before. Before it wasn't
real
if only at the end. So the blood when it
was there before you wiped it off was
not real. The blood only happens at the
end.
Oh, so now the fame we had this also in
this holds that the blood has no effect
on the susceptibility of over here. What
makes us susceptible to the cutting boy?
Okay. So now we just finished six
explanations. Now we're doing five
cool questions.
So
here's the question. It's one question
really five times.
When you have
two things touching each other, one
thing is not susceptible to tuma, the
other thing is, and you put the electric
on the part that's not susceptible. Does
the electric current travel through it
to the part that's susceptible? You put
the tuma on the part that's not
susceptible to to tuma at all. Does it
is it a conduit to tuma?
You have an animal that's alive and well
a live animal. Could a live animal when
it's alive? Could it become human being?
Yes. Animal? No. So since an animal
cannot become tom could when you give it
a nice electric shock you put tuma on
its back but it can't become tom does it
travel through the animal to its leg
that's hanging by a thread the leg
that's hanging by a thread we said is
susceptible to tuma but it's connected
to a body that's not susceptible to tuma
could the tuma travel through the body
and get to the leg yeah you hear
we're going to have this question a few
times by the end understand
I don't know the answer.
This might be slightly counter in
intuitive.
Check this out. Perfect. It doesn't have
a hole in the bottom. If it has a hole
in the bottom,
it's y. It nurses. It nourishes from the
ground. If something nourishes from the
ground, it's connected to the ground. If
it's connected to the ground, it's not
mabo.
But this guy doesn't have a way to
nourish. He's He has no holes. No holes.
He's disconnected from the ground.
Disconnected from the ground. It's a
little counterintuitive. Is Mabo. You
great. Now you have leaves hanging over
this pot, including some fruit right
over here. You see these little fruit
guys? Perfect. They knew what I needed.
These guys nourish from the ground. They
nourish from the ground. They're
attached to the ground. Attached to the
ground. No.
No. Then the rest of the plant is not
great.
It grew.
The whole thing is start.
I don't get it. Why? Just cuz this
little guy is dangling outside and it's
nourishing so that it should have an
effect on the whole plant. No way.
This part maybe but not the rest. Okay.
So he argues he says the whole thing is
mabal tuma. This the these little guys
hanging over are not mabum. question. If
I take a dead rat and I put it on this
part which is not
does it travel through the branch and
get to the part that is
but it's the same question. It's the
same question as the animal. Does it
travel through the animal to the leg?
Travel through this branch to the rest.
Same question five times in a row. Got
lucky today.
what's over here on this plant is what's
not is not great.
So that's what he asked the same
question. Can this this part hanging
dangling out can it be a handle for the
rest of the plant?
Same question again. There's a pumpkin
and a guy bows to half the pumpkin. So
what did he just do? He made it.
It's
not food anymore. You can't eat it. You
can't even give it to So if it's not
food, then it's it can't be it's not
susceptible to. Oh, so once again, we
have a we have a pumpkin that's half
susceptible to half. Not what happens if
you touch half
Can you go from one to the other and
make it?
Yeah. Once again, we're going back to
this easy stuff. Yeah. This guy that was
broken off a tree, but it's hanging.
It's dingling from the tree by a thread.
It's attached to the tree. So he says,
"It depends. If it could live, then it's
attached to the trees. If it can't live,
it's
finally have a question.
Since
it could live, can it be a handle to
uh let flow through it?
You have I'm going to show you a video
for this. You have a house that has
harass one of the stones is that when
you have the first time the goes comes
in, you take the entire stone out. Even
if it disturbs the neighbor, even if you
share a wall with the neighbor, you
remove the stone and he has a nice you
have a hole. How you doing? But if if
the co comes back a second time and
there's a tarass on another another
stone. So now you have to knock down the
whole house. Knock down the whole house.
You have on the neighbor. You chop your
half of the stone out, but you leave his
half in.
You have a a cornerstone that goes to
two houses.
If you with the first time you remove
it, you have to remove the entire stone.
But when you break down the house,
you only break your part, not your
friend's part.
The the friend's part, could it be it's
the the the part that's not not
could it be susceptible? Could it be a
conduit to
fine new?
If the animal dies, it has a dingling
leg and it dies without youing it. So
the says you have to you have to uh you
have to make it with water.
What's the difference? The mission says
there's a difference. Oh, this one is
this one is aren't both of them.
Says the yes, there's a difference.
When you have a piece of flesh that's
alive from a live animal, it's not a
neighbor. It's not a limb. It doesn't
have bones in you. It's just a piece of
flesh.
The meat itself is not.
But if it if it comes from an a from
dead animal, it's
where do you see that? This tuma for a
limb that comes from a live animal tum
part
that you're not allowed to eat it. I get
it. But that that it gives off says
from the animal says
but I already use that up for another
name
say it was from the
everybody from MDY knows this that when
you sh an animal right you sh an animal
in the today and you open it up and you
find that it has a defect in its lungs
It has a in its lungs. It's a tra. It's
a tra Does give off or not? It doesn't.
Why not?
But where does it say it?
What does it mean? Sometimes a gives
off, sometimes not.
An animal that that turns out to be a
does not give off to
say, you're right. I do learn it from
the word. But I can learn it from the
look [snorts]
could be one just the men without the
why say
I learned two things.
If that's the case
means even part of the animal. So even
part means even
think that meat is
meat the flesh part could reproduce. Is
that the right word? There might be a
better word.
>> Regenerate.
Regenerate. Meat could regenerate.
Oh
meat is not susceptible to
we have three over here again says
anything that doesn't regenerate not
says
it has to have senus and bones
but meat does not have senus and bones
and therefore it's not
says something very similar but he adds
one
three things
and
I've called
what's the difference
is the bottom part of the leg it doesn't
have any flesh it's bones and senus and
rebi says
so
since it doesn't have baser
it's just
it's not susceptible to it is
susceptible to why
is the one that says if it doesn't
regenerate
a kidney
these things the the lips don't
regenerate.
So this is a freebie. It's word for
word. The same thing, the same
the meat that comes off a
has to regenerate.
Meat regenerates and therefore the meat
of is not
once again.
You need sen and bones.
So therefore meat is not included in
this. Not susceptible to
You need three things.
the bottom part of the leg which doesn't
have
so regenerates
the the kidney doesn't regenerate but
it's
the I need both of these the the regular
animal
is very susceptible to even the small
size of a lentil so therefore it's
Maybe since it's more it's more
susceptible. It should be meat. The meat
of it should be even when it's alive.
Therefore, it's weak, it should be,
that's why its meat, its flesh is not
when it's alive.
But an animal if you lift up an even if
you don't touch it, you just lift it.
You are
so maybe it's more susceptible to even
when it's alive, the buser should become
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