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CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 125 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky
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[music]
>> Good morning Rabbi boys.
I
With the nishmas maran shlita for
Mordechai, zogt the Gemara.
Seriously, this is beautiful beautiful
sugiyos, gishmaka stuff. If you have a
giant bone, a giant bone, and inside the
bone you have a bunch of marrow and a
lot of people eat the marrow, it's
considered meat.
Do you become tamei when you touch the
bone?
Do you become tamei if you're in a house
that the bone is in it, bone of a human
being, let's say.
Has marrow at
What happens to the whole house? What
happens if there's a bone of an aveilah,
a bone of a sheretz?
Does the exterior part, that hard thing
that's very difficult to get into, does
that prevent the tumah from coming into
the house or no? Do you say tumah be
keiva oilah, it
bursts through the walls and does create
a tumah. Well, what's the story?
So first, we need to discuss this
sugiyah.
We have
also super interesting sugiyah. This is
a kazayis.
These two together is a shiur of tumah.
So if I touch this, I become tamei. The
question is, when I divide it in half,
two halves,
and I touch this one and I touch this
one at the same time, do I become tamei?
>> On a piece of skin.
>> Right now it's on a piece of skin. Here,
there's a piece of skin.
And then we had the question
if these two pieces are inside a room,
like right now, do they combine for
tumah? Do they spread tumah throughout
the whole room? If it was like this,
yes, a piece of meat from a
a human being, a kazayis,
would give tumah to the whole room. But
since they're separated,
does that make a difference? Hoyo oilav,
top of kuf alef dalet. Don't worry,
be'ezras Hashem tomorrow, we should be
where we need to be.
Hoyo oilav, omer Rabbi Pado.
We said in the Mishnah
that if you have these two halves,
if you lift this up, if you lift it like
this,
so you just lifted a full kazayis.
According to Rebbi Shimon, and you are
tamei.
But,
if you touch it, no.
We're talking about that the two pieces
are on the other side. They're on this
side. The guy is touching it from the
other side of the skin, like over here.
You don't see anything.
If I go like this,
I'm actually touching the meat, the meat
side. I'm touching both of them, then
they combine. Nige'ah, cholez over
nige'ah, a new a new concept, which
basically means
there I'm touching simultaneously two
halves, which equal a whole.
So I'm tamei.
I don't do that. I need to touch a
complete piece, and we'll see what the
s'farim are. But as Rebbi Akiva, I'm
tamei.
We have a backup to Rebbi Shimon, who's
Rebbi Dosa. Rebbi Shimon had a maran.
Rebbi Shimon says that two halves don't
make don't don't create tumah.
Similar, but different. If I bring these
two pieces into a room, like here in the
space matters,
does the whole piece of meat become
tamei because I have two halves in the
same room?
Rebbi Dosa ben Horkanos metair says no,
like Rebbi Shimon. Veha chachamim
metairim chachamim say tamei.
Lav omeir Rebbi Dosa ben Horkanos
chasam. And what's the logic? Ain't my
crazy mouth. You cannot combine two
halves to make a whole. So yeah,
so too that same idea and concept that
we have by oil. What's oil?
Oil is when you bring a dead person into
a room,
the tumor I mean it could have been
immediately when they walked in, but the
tumor spreads out in the entire room.
There's a little newer version that's
even better and cooler. That's for the
next year.
But the idea that everything in the
room, even far away from the maze, 25 ft
away from the maze, everything in the
building, if you have a dead person in a
hospital, it can be in the entire of the
whole hospital.
But if you have two halves of a full
share, these two halves right over here
in one room, they don't create tumor
according to Rebbi Dosa. Okay, now I'm
in again
so the same would apply if I touch them
like this.
According to Rebbi Shmuel,
there's no tumor. So it's the same sheet
of Rebbi Shmuel and Rebbi Dosa.
Says the Gemara, who are you Rebbi
Shmuel and our Mishnah? Rebbi Akiva.
Rebbi Dosa and Rebbi Akiva is Rebbi
Shmuel. Rabbanan is Rebbi Akiva.
So it just makes sense that
the two that argue our Mishnah, Rebbi
Shmuel and Rebbi Akiva argue. Rebbi
Shmuel says they don't combine.
And in the other Mishnah by by oil, we
have a between Rebbi Dosa and Hachamim.
Hachamim say you do combine. Rebbi Dosa
says they don't combine. So now we have
to line them up. I did this. This is
super
rudimentary. This is like even the
background is not our Sugya.
But you see the two on the right side,
they line up. Rebbi Shmuel says not to
tie up
when you touch the two. Rebbi Dosa Rebbi
Dosa says they're not tied up when you
have a oil.
And then let's go to the bottom left.
Hachamim say they are tied up. They
argue with Rebbi Dosa. So it only makes
sense Rebbi Akiva
lines up with Hachamim cuz Rebbi Akiva
and Reb Shimon and our mission to say
different things. The problem is if you
look closely, Reb Akiva agrees with Reb
Shimon. It doesn't line up.
Reb Akiva tahor
What are you talking about? Reb Akiva
says that's completely tahor.
That it's not metztaref. He agrees with
Reb Shimon. No, he doesn't agree with
Reb Shimon. If you look at the Mishna,
Reb Akiva
In this case that the two pieces are
attached to piece of skin, that's when
he says that the skin is mevatalet, so
it's completely tahor.
Remember we had the case that if you
take these two halves
and you go like this,
now now you are tamei. And the Mishna
asks, what's the difference between if
you move this?
This Reb Akiva admits that it's tamei.
If it's on the piece of skin like this,
he says not. So the Mishna explains
because the piece of hide is mevatalet.
It overcomes it and it makes it tahor.
But if it's on a on a toothpick, then
not. So you see Reb Akiva does So Reb
Akiva now does line up.
I should have made another one that says
Reb Akiva says metztaref in In what
case? If they're on a toothpick, then
there is a tziruf between the two pieces
of meat.
Masa. Yeah, if you lift it. Not not not
maga. If you lift the two, you actually
lifted both. Right now I go like this, I
just lifted a full kezayit. Why? Well,
this one
is a little hard to see, but now you
could
one, two, and I just lifted it together.
So I lifted a full kezayit. What's the
difference if they're touching or not? I
just lifted. But touching like this, Reb
Akiva says you're not tamei.
If you put them in a toothpick, see to
it that you move it, you're tamei. But
why does he In the Mishna it says, why
is it tahor if it's on on of skin? We
have
great. We are in a new Sugya.
We're going to have a problem.
It says in the possuk been of lost saw
that it's
it's what I'm just being gorgeous what
what they say in the side which is in
the possuk been of lost saw which makes
more sense for the Sugya. It seems like
it's one whole piece.
And in that this case when the two
halves are sitting on a piece of hide.
I would
think that if you lift these two up like
this you're not tamei. That no, I never
had a
nice say eat my. If you lift if you
carry it you are tamei.
We give us a no
that they're dependent on each other.
>> [clears throat]
>> That if you could do magga
if you if you could get to magga you
could do massa. If you can't get to
magga, if you're not if by touching it
like this
you're not tamei or whatever the case is
then carrying that same thing you're
also not tamei.
If you cannot get to the to touching if
touching doesn't work for tuma neither
does carrying work for tuma. If you miss
out
but
according to what you just told me you
could do magga like this. If I if you
touch like this we just said one and one
half and half equals one.
And I become tamei so there is magga so
there should be also massa lifting.
I have to get to it in all situations.
We
said it's only if I touch it on the meat
side. But what if I touch it on the
other side this side? I try to touch I'm
not tamei. I need to be able to become
tamei from both sides.
>> By the name of Rav Avio, Sabo, Merabo,
Bar Avuno. The voice I hear is a God at
all for real.
No, no, no. It's a real story as Gish
Mach Mod.
Rav Avio, Sabo, asked Rav Bar Avuno.
Coolest Stumo the Rebi Shmol Maus at the
Tumo.
If I lift a giant bone
called the coolest, called the femur I
think it is.
Yeah, this guy right over here.
The femur.
In a human being it's that bone right
over there. In a In a rat it's that
bone.
So, if I lift a femur, now let's go back
to the video. I love this guy.
That's the femur.
>> I'm going to cut this in half on the
band saw and show you where bone marrow
comes from. Check it out.
>> Because we have to see that this bone
contains a lot of meat.
A lot of Nivea law, a lot of human
Yeah, marrow is meat.
If you could get into it then you would
eat it, right? Look, Gish Mach Mod.
Ah, ah, mommies.
>> Take that, roast that up, you have some
beautiful beef bone marrow.
>> Okay.
So,
if you lift that bone before you put it
on the band saw, are you Tommy? What's
the question? It's completely sealed in
a very protective shell.
Is later Rebi Shmol is Shabol Mago Bol
Maso. At the end of the day you can't
touch it right now. Yes, if you put it
in a band saw, but right now you can't
touch it.
>> [snorts]
>> So, therefore,
there's no Maso. There's no lifting.
There's no becoming Tommy by lifting it.
Lo Bol Mago Lo Bol Maso. Since I can't
touch it, there's no Maso.
Bol Taim Shon the Bol Mago Malifanov.
And over here by the two half a Zaysem,
you could touch it because you could
touch it
directly on the other side. I deal with
lastly or perhaps
only Reb Akiva says there's a connection
between Maga Massa
and Reb Shmuel says no.
That you could do Massa without Maga.
And since so what if you can't touch it?
But at the end of the day I can lift it.
And I just lifted
2 lb of bone marrow.
Some tamei.
So he said, "Amaleh
or the parah. Hey, there's a bird. Bird.
>> [snorts]
>> Do you see the bird?
If you were with me in the safari half
what's going on. He says, "Oh, this is
the eagle. This is the this."
Basically, he's trying to draw change
change the subject.
Distract him. Amaleh rove bereh. So Rav
Abba bar Avina's son tells him, "Vel av
I know vel av I know Rav Avia's I don't
understand why you just distracted Rav
Avia. You always told me about Rav Avia
the godol. You pumpadisa, the mishabach
on Mar. You master my father. You always
told me the shvach and bigadei the gav
Rav Avia. You told me what a great
person he is. So answer him. Why did you
just
He asked you a simple question is if you
lift up a bone that has bone marrow in
it
are you tamei? Say yes, no. What are you
telling him there's a there's a raven
flying by. My boy said, "This is my day.
I love this line. I need to remember it.
Amaleh ani hayoyim samchuni bashishos.
Give me a bottle of wine. Give me a good
steak. That's where I'm at right now.
I just finished giving shiur.
And when I you finished giving shiur
you're done. You're done. You don't have
You don't have the the capacity to think
about questions like this.
U bay minay milse d'bay tayma. I need to
think about this.
But this is a shiur shiur. This is not a
daf yomi shiur. This is a shiur of of
Shabbos of yom tov when klais will get
together hundreds of people. You can
imagine hours and and and and the
complexity and and and and ba ba peh and
all that.
He's done. I I was a bum who's checking
the box, doing the 20-minute dafs here
so I could tell myself I did the daf.
Now I actually want to be there and I
love my hour sheer. I feel like I have a
kabura now.
We should put this email Ariel, we
should put this in like in middle of the
own nothing but the daf.
In middle of they're watching nothing
but the daf and just this line that says
I was a bum, I was doing the 20-minute
daf.
That that little part just that you
could do. Like it's like a short,
exactly. In middle and smack in middle.
Okay, so that's that's that with the
with the Agadata. Omar Ulla Shnei
Chatzos Zeisim She'tichaven [snorts]
B'Keisim. So once again, where's the
Keisim? Oy yoy yoy. Moving this all day
long according to Ulla
Afilu Moilocho Mayim Kol Hayom Kulo
Tahor, you don't become Tamei. Mai
Ta'ama? D'Siv V'Niso. B'Karina Nosei. So
if you look at the Pasuk it says
V'Hanosei without a Vav. We we know that
we read it, we have a Mesorah. Ish Em
L'Mesoras. So we read it with a Vav, we
put a Cholem on top of the Nun and it
becomes a Vav, V'Hanosei.
But without Nekudos
somebody just started reading, you'd
give a kid to read it, you'd you'd read
it V'Hanise.
V'Hanise. Nise means that it is carried,
not that you are carrying it. V'Izehu
Karina Nosei V'Karina Nosei. B'Ina Nosei
V'U D'Niso. The reason why the Torah
does that, the reason why it's written
one way and you read it another way is
because we are going to learn both both
ways to read it. That what?
You need to carry it, you need to do
this. But it needs to be a Nisa. It
needs to be one piece. It needs to you
can't have two pieces. V'U D'Niso
B'Vasachas, it's one.
So now that we know this, the Nisa means
it has to be one. Nun Hoyu Alav Shnei
Chatzos Zeisim. If on this piece of hide
you have two halves of of flesh M'Tumin
B'Maga
B'Masa V'Lo B'Maga. It becomes Tamei
when you lift it up because it has two
halves, but not when you touch it even a
very small. Am I V'Lo Av Nisa Hu? Why if
you lift it up like this do you become
Tommy it's not one it says me so that's
what we want.
So this is like wow it's like a stick of
dynamite no.
It's maruda means they're actually
connected the two pieces we had this
picture yesterday here we go.
It's holding on by a thread and if I
lift up the thread actually both pieces
will come together the so it is
connected there is the electricity runs
through it through that wire.
Tommy we had this before.
Two halves on a toothpick.
If you move it you tell me am I love me
so it's not one piece I can
do you have to say according to him.
According to that there is a string
attached.
Get that away.
If you touch the two halves or you move
them.
So we have three things going on here
touchy. May sit. Moving it like this you
go like this that's may sit noise say
lifting it.
And what does he believe he has to say
not only the first two cases
may sit but also I don't know I say even
if you carry it as the I don't
understand something I don't know I say
love me so too.
If you go like this then you moved it if
I move it like this I'm Tommy and if I
go like this I also moved it so there's
a difference between noise say and may
sit every noise say is a may sit what
did he gain.
I love I got what I got what I meant to
say.
I got that I got that I got that I got
that I may sit.
I lost
what do you mean no I don't know I say
that you don't become Tommy when there
two pieces you need a nice so you need a
one piece.
So if you need one piece so my F then
what let's think about it. He says oh.
Touching and may sit comes and says no
no no may sit doesn't work unless it's
one piece so it's not I have it's not a
third case.
He's
What's the word I'm looking for?
>> Qualifying.
>> Qualifying. Thank you, that's exactly
the word I was looking for. He's
qualifying the first thing. It's not
off, it's not another case. It's the
who. I'm qualifying it must be one.
You're right, it's a bomb question and
therefore we let's change the wording
slightly.
Uma af, aim of a who the knees are, as
long as it is carried.
Says they are going to mention the
coolest
we saw that giant bone, the femur.
That of a dead person. If you touch it,
are you tame? The coolest
and the femur of a carbon. Now, we're
not talking about a carbon in regular
carbon, we're talking about a carbon
that you should have burned, you should
have eaten everything and burned the
rest.
It's nice out.
So, fascinating alacha. Since it's nice
out, if you touch it, you don't become
tame, your hands become tame.
How do you get a behave if you touch it
being stupid and being a cool one,
whether they have holes in them or not?
You become tame, your hands become tame.
So, the coolest again, being stupid and
being a cool one, tame. Coolest, we're
just we're talking about a coolest here,
the femur. We have to know where it
comes from and how it comes.
Okay, so listen to this. If it's it's if
it's a femur of an availa.
It depends. If it has a small hole in
it, then it's tame. If it has a if it's
completely sealed, it's tar. What could
you do if it's a small hole?
You could take
you know, you go like this.
And then you put it in I mean, that's
also you take a little here and you put
it through the hole.
You put it through the hole. Now, you
touched it touched the the tame.
And and your hand is touching the hair
that touched the tame, you become tame.
So, even if you don't do it, if it has a
hole, it's tame. Men and women are the
same.
How do you know that if you carry it,
you're not tame?
Any bone that if you touch
There's no mag oh, so there's no mass
oh.
Says the Gamora on the game. It seems
like if you touch this cooler as you
become Tommy.
What
about the concept of vile?
It should be that if you have a bone
full of marrow inside a room, it should
make the whole room Tommy. Why?
>> [clears throat]
>> Excuse me.
Why is it not Tommy?
So the Gamora qual we use the lotion of
qualifies it. Every time
boil
if there's a
muscle on if there's a muscle of flesh
on a bone you have a femur and you
didn't you didn't scrape off all the
meat there's a little left over
as a of a maze.
In a room it creates Tommy. So we're not
talking about that it has a obviously
the lucky doesn't have a maze.
So what does it have? It has bone marrow
inside sealed.
Impossible to touch.
Tommy because
there's a concept that Tommy
and this is very important.
If Tommy has where to go so to speak if
it has a
here let's just show this real quickly.
Since this doesn't have a
the Tommy
breaks out and goes all the way up to
Shamayim.
Now you can get the Tommy to come out
through a pipe that's what we have here
in the cars.
Now it's less than a
half.
>> [music]
[snorts]
>> Your snoring IS KILLING ME.
>> [laughter]
>> SO THEN IT'S HAVING A LOT OF FUN HERE
AND THEY'RE COMING WITH THE TIRE.
So if it has because I said so that's to
my book
the the the tumor inside the the bone
marrow has nowhere to go. I was just
going to say guys to
named to my book as well as well.
Boil not me with the tummy.
So then this tumor this bone marrow
inside the bone if it has a kiss eyes
and has a full kiss eyes
it should break out and create a oil. So
I was thinking about it like kiss eyes
my friend. It doesn't have a full
something like this. I want to use this
for later. This actually Elvis made this
picture for our Gamora and
it's rudimentary a little bit but it's
kiss mark. It shows only has a small
amount. What it really shows we're going
to see soon this is miss kishkes. This
got hard but I got it doesn't have
enough bone marrow. Not a lot.
So this Gamora okay now there's a new
concept. Does bone marrow
help the flesh on the outside of the
bone heal?
You know bone marrow is very important.
You know all these surgeries and people
need the bone marrow for the healing.
Does it create healing
effects on the on the flesh?
Help heal.
So then this bone is a real limb and we
have a limb inside a house that creates
tumor.
Fine. At the end of the day
it doesn't help. It doesn't help the
meat recreate or re What is the word? Re
regenerate. Thank you. So therefore it's
not a limb.
So what's going on here? You said
there's no kazayis of of of uh meat. You
or there's no kazayis of bone marrow, I
should say. The fire. So, if if there's
no kazayis of bone marrow, so then why
is this bone a problem when it comes to
culture to carbonus?
The coolest
can equal
so what if there's a puncture? A little
hole uh uh a tiny hole you can put a
hair through and touch it. But, there's
no there's no there's not enough
material inside. There's all there's
less than a kazayis. Holy cashews. Ratio
the lucky kazayis. The first case of
coolest which is talking about a human
being there's no there's no kazayis.
Stave off the key kazayis. Which is
interesting, right? So, you're going to
ask so, say two cases. One that has a
kazayis, one that doesn't have a
kazayis. Why are you jumping from a
human being to a sherif? But, but
there's a cashews in this. Really really
cashews teaching you different cashews
here.
First of all, you should know how number
one that the bone marrow inside doesn't
help regenerate flesh on the outside.
And therefore, what? It's not considered
a limb. And
what do I tell you when I say the word
hekdesh? She must know mercy. That the
bone is like the marrow inside. She must
I'm using the bone to carry it. It's
like touching the the the marrow.
That what? The only way to
get salt. They
make your hands to me. Why? This is
oil the NASA buses the double also.
It becomes a base to something that's
also. It's holding noise so you should
have thrown it out. You should have
burnt it. And instead it's here. So,
it's a bus is the double also. It's like
on Shabbos when you you have a drawer
with a bunch of cash in it. And also a
pair of socks. So, the fire you're not
allowed to open up the drawer because
it's
or a better case your your your lighter,
the your candelabra that you light
candles on that's on a table cloth, it's
it's on a tray, it's also for you to
pick up the tray because the tray is a
base to the candelabra. Okay, whatever.
In the veil line, what what's the in the
veil line?
I've got to think of this highest. Even
though there's a full highest of marrow,
nick for in like nick for light is a
special by the veil line. That if
there's a puncture wound, then it makes
you tummy. If not, not.
I buy argues on this concept. He says,
"No, if
it could the the bone marrow does
regenerate. The bone marrow does.
Unbelievable video.
It's a for shot.
Sheba means you cut it. Now it depends
how you cut it. If you cut a bone
around its circumference, it'll destroy
the bone. Like a tree. If you cut a tree
around and around, the tree will die. If
you cut a tree from top to bottom, it
could still live.
And why? Because the nutrients could
travel up and down the tree.
In one area won't travel, but it can
gather nutrients from the other area.
But once you you make a you slice it
like this, then the the nutrients can't
get to the top of the tree. The tree
dies.
The simon dicklaw and the your your
simon is a tree. Check this out. I like
this a lot the way they did it.
This is larka.
He's cutting the larka.
And he's he's doing an experiment here.
He's cutting the larka.
This is the around the circumference.
And I can see how the nutrients go
through they could go through they pass
everything goes great over there it
stops. And the male one
I can heal this one and they all and it
could regenerate the flesh.
But the other one just dies.
Male and the other one is green it's
tahor that one is red tameh mamesh
givaldig.
No.
This this bone this bone marrow it has a
focus eyes.
Everything it has it checks all the
boxes it has the full amount it has a
focus eyes. And if you have bone marrow
inside it could regenerate the the meat
outside.
We asked.
What do we ask? How come there's no How
come there's no oil over here? The first
question of the Gemara.
Where it says Gemara on top.
Like uh seven lines on top. Nugaein of a
milei. Why is there no oil? There is
oil.
When I say touching I mean oil.
Now what's pshat?
How is nugaein milei? As we're going to
see a whole sugi now. Nugaein means
milei. You're touching the oil the tumah
it's it's like physical. It's a thing.
When you stick your finger in when
there's a a a beam of tumahs coming up
and you put your finger in there you
touched you touched the tumah so to
speak. Here we're going to see that's
the whole sugi now.
So if it's true that the the bone marrow
regenerates close to the navel close to
the heart kill him find my tohorim. So
what if there's no hole? It should be it
should be tahor it it it should be
tameh. Why? Because we just said that
the bone marrow regenerates
the the flesh outside. So it becomes a
limb. If it becomes a limb a limb of an
aveilah should create tumah.
There's a lot of people that I know that
have a skash kish. Basically,
it's all dried and shriveled up
and there's nothing going on. If you
shake it, it rattles. The brain rattles,
huh?
>> Make a lot of noise.
>> Yeah.
In different ways.
So, when when is a dead person? So, I
don't care if it rattles, doesn't
rattle.
Got a sheer and then it burst out of
there and it creates tuma.
>> [clears throat]
>> N'veila, but we're talking about an
animal giving them skash kishoo.
Since it's not really meat, n'kiva in
loy n'kiva loy. That depends if it has a
hole, then it's then it's then it's
tuma.
Where do I see Noam was like, "Wow, what
are you talking about? Why is oil magel?
Where do we see such a Here Here I I
have proof. How do you get a k'chatzi
zayis u'malo k'chatzi zayis?" It's
unbelievable. Check this out.
If I touch
First of all, halacha that maybe a lot
of people don't know and if you came for
this halacha, it was kedai.
Is this oil? My hand is over this piece.
Is it oil? Here are two pieces together.
Yeah, k'zayis together. Is this oil?
>> Yeah.
Here's another question.
Is this oil?
>> Yeah.
>> No, my bottom hand.
>> No.
>> This is oil. Reboise, this is oil.
This is oil.
Yeah, so if you came just for that, I'm
serious. If you want to learn today, oil
is also downwards. Tuma goes both ways.
This is oil.
Uh when you go like this,
it's oil. It's It's in This is shooting
down tuma. My hand is right here. What's
the difference my hand is here, my hand
is here? It's in the same place. How do
you get a k'chatzi zayis? So, I touch
this. Look at this. I touch this half
and this is only half. These are two
halves And I put my hand like this. Tame
or not tame?
Tame or not tame?
No. It's more likely to be tame. If I go
like this, tame, cuz I did two magos. If
I go like this, I did two oils. But over
here I did mago and I did oil.
It shouldn't You can't take two
different names and put them together.
OIL AND A MAGO?
OH, NO, UM
YOU SEE THAT THEY'RE THE SAME. AH,
there's a mar de grayo. I don't know
what this is but it's all of tame.
Or they have a
I read it quickly cuz I don't want to
embarrass you guys. Or a half a zayis
all of or a half a zayis is on top of
him. Mile all of tame. Yarmulke and a
hot
If you're telling me the mago and oil
are one thing, one and the same,
touching an oil is the same. That's
why when I touch it and I'm over it,
it's the same cuz I'm actually touching
it. By being over it, I'm touching it.
It's two touchings.
Ellie, I was preaching meaning new but
if it's two separate things, misstarif,
how could I combine the two things?
What's not it said we learned that cloud
is the this is the rule. Call me call me
call me tame. If it's one name, two
magos or two oils, they combine
together. Mishne shames but if I do one
oil and one touching, they don't tar.
Elemi hotzmo, it must be that oil and
touching is one. Amasafas, so what I do
to the next part? Aval and gab
hotzizayis with over a hot mile all of
the al hotzizayis. So now
I'm touching the purple
but my head is under this like this. And
this guy is also under it. We're both
under the same thing.
Oh, that's it. That's all I need.
Shkoyach. Thank you so much. Vel
hotzizayis tar.
Then I'm tar.
But why? Why in this case is it
different? Why am I tar? Li hotzmo, if
me being underneath the box is
considered mago
so
this or one
was under the box with me.
So, I touched it. So, I know I didn't
physically touch it, but I touched it
through oil. And I touched this piece.
So, I had two touchings. Two halves of a
zayis I should be. What's the difference
now? Elo mai, they're different.
They're different. So, if they're
different, so how come the first case
where I went I touched this and I went
like this, I went over it without a box
with my hand, you are combining it.
You're telling me in that case that oil
and magga are the same name, yet in the
case with Reb Nachman Seltzer's box,
it's not the same name. Why not? Omer
Reb Zeira be Tamar Tzitzis bein
Elo kashi ratio. How do you Why in the
ratio do we say it's considered one?
It's very, very simple here.
Vain binayam b'sech tefach.
You have a chatzi zayis on the ground.
And you put two boxes next to each
other.
Even though it's a half a kezayis,
the tumah gets trapped there and spreads
between the two boxes, which is less
than a tefach. The two boxes are next to
each other less than a tefach. It says,
Vain binayam b'sech tefach. You don't
even have a tefach between the two
boxes. That's why if I'm a top of it, I
put my hand in there in that space where
it's red, I become tamei.
Why?
The cooling of the gear here. I touched
the red. The red is is a physical thing
almost. It's like a It's a virus. I
touched the virus. I touched the tumah.
We call it an igia. We're matan the
koreal negia. Rebbi Yo'ezer, who says
that oil and and and touching is the
same? It's Rebbi Meir, Rebbi Shimon,
Rebbi Eliezer.
Miloy tarved rakav. You have um I don't
know how to call it, dust from a
decomposed uh bodies, the dust of
decomposed bodies.
You have it in a ladle.
Remains.
Now, but it's really dust because it's
made out of thousands of particles.
Ashes.
Well, ashes no, I don't know. I'm not
going to go into ashes.
Decomposed remains.
Metame ben mago, so if you touch it, you
become tame. Ubemasa, if you lift it,
obviously become tame if you lift it.
Why? Because you lifted all Let's Let's
call it a thousand particles. You lifted
all thousand by lifting the ladle. Uba
oil, if you're in the same room, you're
in the same room as a thousand
particles, you become tame. The question
is mago.
Why do you become tame by touching?
You didn't touch the whole thing. You
touched 20 out of the thousand. It's a
thousand particles. It's a thousand
pieces of grain.
>> [clears throat]
>> Whatever you want to call it. Bishlama
me masa uba oil.
Hukata oil negai, you lifted it.
Lekulei, welcome alei kulei, or you did
oil on all of it. Elena negai, holina
negai uba kulei, you didn't touch all.
Elena we know mena negai mile. So, you
see that touching is oil.
Buhukata oil negai uba kulei but you
said three things. Not only you say
three things, you had a word in between.
You said touching mago, then you said
masa, then you said oil. So,
the first and the third are the same, so
why is there something in the middle
called masa? If mago and oil are the
same, why do they say mago, masa, oil?
They should say masa, mago, oil. I don't
know what or shouldn't say mago at all.
Says the Gemara,
Oh boy, I lost my train of thought. Oh,
Rabba oil.
Lemata metavach, if you're very close to
it, and this makes a lot of sense. If
you're like this, within, you know, a
few centimeters of it, less than a
tavach, then it says if you touched it.
Oil negai, that's called being oil, but
it's touching it. It's as if mamish it's
as if you touch it. We We consider you
touching it. Lemata tavach, you went
over here, way above, oil greater, it's
a regular oil, but not a touching oil.
Rabbosai, have a wonderful day.
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