CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 123 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] >> Good morning, Rabbi boys. AH. WE MUST BE MORE SERIOUS. WE MUST SMILE. HI. WE ARE holding five lines from top of the base of the base. We dealing with the Mishnah talks about the hides that are very soft. Those hides that are very soft, such as uh the hide under the tail of a of a sheep, very soft. So, it has a law like meat. In other words, it still conveys tumah. Whereas the tougher hides, they are tahor. So, by me, I have a question. What about What about the hide on the head of a calf? Harach. Very soft, eh? Um calf meaning a young one. Mao she tamah. Does it give tumah? No, what's the answer, Rabbi Zai? What's the answer? Ah? What, yeah? Yeah. You know why yeah? Cuz we learned yesterday in the Mishnah. It's in the Mishnah. Let's turn the page to the Mishnah. Ailu sh'ein k'tzaram orah, d'var chazeh sh'el eishuv. Rebbi Yosi omer, v'eidoi me'afroach chaziyer bar, d'v'ar wild boar, v'ar chaziyer tarishal gamal v'ar v'ar harosh shel eigel arach. It's in our Mishnah. These exact words. The skin of the head of the So, what's Why is he asking it? It's It's soft. It's considered like meat. Omer lei, Rebbi Yochanan tells him, einam metamei. No. It No No tumah. In other words, I argue on the Mishnah. Omer lei, v'im atah Omer Rabbeinu, I don't understand. You taught us the Mishnah. Ailu sh'ein k'tzaram v'ar harosh shel eigel arach. You said that the soft skin of the head of the calf is considered like meat and it's mikubal tuma. Or lay alta kni teini. Why you bother me? Why you chappening me? What a loshon. Alta kni teini, don't chappen me. Loshon yachid lishnayim asur. When I said that mishnah, that was only adas yachid. We don't pasken like like individual single singular how posek uh opinion. Loshon Loshon yachid lishnayim asur. How do I know? The sanya. Asher asah lo acher k'zayis marish tachas aliyav. If somebody brings a korban and he thinks in his mind that he's going to eat a steak, let's say. He's going to eat a steak outside the lot of time or outside the lot of place. In other words, if you're allowed to eat the steak for 2 days, he thinks in his head as he's shocheting doing he's going to eat it in 3 4 days from now. That's called pigul and you get kares if you eat it. But what if he thought in in his mind not a steak, a piece of skin. He's going to put a piece of skin. You could also think in your mind you're going to put the steak on the on the mizbeach, not the steak, the parts that go on the mizbeach, the emurim that go on the mizbeach. You also think in your mind you're going to do it tomorrow instead of today. That's also pigul. So, it's talking about the piece of skin that's under the tail. Sh'tachas aliyav. Posul v'eim b'kares. In other words, over here it's it talks about one type of hide, only the hide of the tail. Tachas aliyav. And that's what Rebbe Akiva is going to say. Rebbe Akiva said, "Look, the only hide that's soft and considered meat is one, that of the fatty tail of a sheep." Look, it says, "Asher asah lo acher k'zayis marish tachas aliyav chutz min kol may posul v'eim b'kares." Okay, cuz he thought out of the place. Instead of thinking that he's going to do it in your shul line, he thinks about doing it in the chametz. It's you don't get cars. Who is mine everybody you do the real one thinking about outside of the lot of time people. That's the people that the market goes people not the tire the chametz of cars you get cars. That's the main sheet it it says it anonymously. That's the main sheet. It happens to be a lot of issue of they come along and they say something similar to the Mishnah and that's the Yachid. All those listed in our Mishnah the whole base of even the female part of skin who that's the and therefore you don't bother me. Great new song or base of process how long does it take us to do a half almond? Or base of process the skin the hide that's on the foot that's also soft and that's also like part of the meat. Here's the foot what's base of process? My base of process rather base of process it only includes whoa not this picture. This one right over here it includes the red part on the bottom. By the hoof that's it just that part. It's the entire bone that goes all the way the cannon bone all the way all the blue in this picture and that is something like I mean time and showed us it's that part that's sold together with the head because you know who wants a head so we throw in like a a poke you so to speak we throw in one one extra piece of meat that it barely has anything it's all bone and skin that goes together with it. We're talking about shratzim now. So, I need to show you this pasukim. First of all, look at these beautiful shratzim. They're unbelievable. Oh, so I was in the middle of showing you these pasukim. We have to see these pasukim. Very, very important. These are the shratzim and the Torah goes on to name only three. Then the pasuk later says another five. So, you have a total of eight. The mole. And now the Torah is talking about the last pasuk the word hatmayim. We learn from the hey that the hide, the skin has a law like the flesh, the meat of the sharetz and it's tamei. Maybe even the chameleon, the you know, I I guess that's one of the ones that have very tough skin. Never really petted one, but I'm assuming it's like, you know, looks very thick. Maybe that also the skin is like basar. No, only these. Only these are soft. But, take a look where ela said. Ela is all the way at the end of pasuk lamid aleph. Doesn't include all eight. You just included all eight. How how did you divide the eight into two? If it says ela at the end. It first says the three in pasuk kuf tes, then it says liminei. So, those those three are not tamei. They don't have tumah. They're they're a cholel v'achbar v'tzav. I hear the it's interesting. The the frog, the the the toad the its skin is too tough. Not not not not considered meat. Actually, it says over here that I know call the way we're learning it, the chameleon, the lizard, they have soft skin. Okay, so I was wrong. His to get in in >> [clears throat] >> the lumineo shows that there's two parts of this The list is cut in half. Look So, the the shrotzim underneath the lumineo possible almond Ayla atzmayim lachem leraboys, we said that the Ayla comes to say that their hide is like the the meat. It's tummy. And the ones before the lumineo, their hide is not. As the Gemara of the namit and chamas, why is the tinchamas the mole missing from the list in the Mishnah? Says Gemara of Shmuel by Rav Tana the Tana tinchamas. As we know, Rav Tana will poleg. Rav Tana, Rav is the end of the Tanaim, the beginning of the Amoraim. So, at a certain point, someone had to be He can't like cut can't like say, "Oh, he doesn't belong with the Tanaim." Half his life he lived in the Tanaim era era. So, mayela he's a Tana. And he he he actually put the tinchamas in in his list. Everything's great. Oh, but Tana didn't like the tinchamas. What Okay, great. Rav does, but our Tana doesn't doesn't list them. Our Rav Shisha Rav Idi Tana didn't like Rav Yehuda. Those of us are big stuff. Our Tana goes with Rav Yehuda. Rav Yehuda says you got to feel. You you touch it. If it's thick, it's thick. If it's thin, thin. So, if it's thick, it's not not hot it's not it's not basar. Yeah, he argues with Rav Yehuda. In in in reality, is this considered thick or not? But, he goes you can feel it with your own hands. We'll be gishter the halachic They they they argue whether or not it's uh it's soft or not. But, the other Tana, Rav, rather than go with feelings, he's a he's a logical person. He doesn't feel-feely. >> Facts don't care about feelings. Exactly. Beautiful. Facts don't care about The fact is it's in the Torah. It says Ela. And this is Leminyo, and we cut it, and we did it. This is so I I I touched it. No. It doesn't go by feelings. The cool and shaven done. It says in the Mishna that if you if you tanned these hides, the tar, they're no longer hides. And it says Hiluch in if you walked on it, then it's considered tanned. Lo Hiluch Lo I. Now, I'm just like in a Gada over here. And I love when I say seriously. But, Tana Rebbe Chiya, Oizen Chamor Shital Lo L'Kupasa. We have a beautiful video. You can't You can't make this stuff up. A guy uses a donkey's ear to patch his box. That's what the Gemara says here. Let's look it in. Unbelievable. Oizen Chamor Shital Lo L'Kupasa. You're using a patch. How do you use a patch? What kind of patch are you using here? You're using a donkey's ear. Makes a lot of sense. Take a donkey's ear, screw it in with a bunch of screws, you're good to go. Then it's tar. Then it's no longer part of the animal. Shital Lo, it seems like Af Al Gabei Lo Hiluch. So, then you don't need a you don't have to tan it. You don't have to step on it. Cuz you you you attach it to the box. Al Layt Lo, you didn't use it as a patch. Hiluch in Lo Hiluch Lo I, then you must walk on it. Kam Mi De Avida? What does it mean? Amar Abahu Amar Abaye, Arba Milin. You walk it four mil. Now, what's what's four mil? Four mil, each mil takes about 18 minutes to walk. Four mil, 72 minutes. That's the shear of 72 minutes. And now we have a beautiful Sugya Rebbe Avahu Rebbe Shimon ben Lakish Amar, Legabel Villa Tfila. So, we're very familiar with tvilah. Let me just say what a gabbai is for a second. Gabbai means a person who's hired to make dough for someone, and he's he's specifically told he has to do it b'taharah. Everything should be tahor. I want a a tahor product. Don't be tamei when you do it. And he's able to use the owner's vessels, but the vessels are tamei. He must go, you hear this? He must go 72 minutes to the mikvah. 72 minutes. So, it's a problem. You got to schlepp the stuff He probably That That was the deal. 72 minutes. Vill a tvilah. Now, rebbeim say, "Don't pasken halachos yet. We're going to get to the end. You'll see exactly what you have to do for davening." For davening, you must go 72 minutes to get a minyan. Seems like from Rashi Rashi says it's 10 people to get a minyan. You're Oh. Oh. So, that's what everybody asks. Walk or by car? So, most poskim, I believe, say that today, because we have cars, it's also 72 minutes in the car. It has to do with not not a distance, but how much how much it takes you, the tircha. Huh? Okay. So, I'm sure there's there's poskim that say not like that, but that's the the common But, we're not there. Rebbiem, say So, I'll tell you now so you don't get confused. If you If you leave right now, it's 18 minutes. 17 and 59 seconds. It's 18 minutes. That's That's the amount that today, when you're in bed, and you realize you didn't have a maariv, how much you have to go to a minyan? 18 minutes. If you if you could get a minyan within 18 minutes, so if you're Yellowstone, let's say, 18 minutes, not 72. Okay. Vill a netilah sh'adayim. If you're If you have bread, What? In a second, we're going to get there. It's only 72 when you're on the way, and it's in the right direction. So, if you're traveling from from Bet Shemesh to Eilat and you stopped off at Mitzpe Ramon and then you realize, "Wow, I didn't have my and the minyan is 72 minutes towards Eilat." Then you have to drive 70 We're not there yet. But, I'm saying a regular guy in his bedroom he doesn't need to go 72 minutes that way, he has to go 7 18 minutes backwards or to the side. That's We'll get there in a second. I'm just telling you guys not to not to I don't want somebody to Sometimes you put a halakha in your mind and it stays there forever. We're not It's not a 72 minutes. >> 15 minutes out of your way. >> 18 minutes out of your way. Out of your way is when you're in your house, everything's out of your way. Cuz you're in your house. You're ready good. Villante today. Okay, so you're on a trip or vice versa on a trip, it happens all the time. You have a sandwich. Do you use a napkin or now you have to work hard and get a get a sink? You have to walk 18 minutes to get that sink, to get that that the bathroom whatever has water. 18 minutes. That's the halakha. It's possible halakha here. Look, Villante today. How far? So, right now we're at 72 minutes. You have to walk 72 minutes for a sandwich. That's hard. I will tomorrow. It's not It's I will I. I will I will I. He said four. If you want to If you want to remember it, you can remember. There's four halakhas about walking four mil. It's four by four. Okay. I will I will I. Four by four. I will I will I. I will I will I and one of them is the the halakha in English. I will I will I will I. Here goes. I will I will I will I. The front of means that you're in the right direction. You're going there anyway. So, don't stop now. Stop 72 minutes ahead. You must go further. You must go 72 minutes. I will I will I will I. But, to go reverse course I will I will I will I. Any cause you don't even have to go one mil. You don't have to go 18 minutes. I will I will I will I. And here it goes. You mean no. He said 1 million. I don't have to go back. If it's 17 minutes, it's marid here. Here's the story. A guy he puts in his ways. He's in a vacation. He puts in his ways the closest Khabad. Ways is 80 minutes. 80 minutes. He goes outside and to smoke a cigarette. He's 6 ft down the block and then he puts his ways again. It says 17:59. Now you have to go. At that point you probably have to go. So what do we have? I love this. Then you you should go. You should be walking to a show walking on Shabbos. 18 minutes. If you're in a place 80 minutes some people say oh it's hard for me to walk. 80 minutes you do this. More than 80 minutes not to if it's in the the wrong direction. Same thing for washing your hands. If you don't have water, you have to to go 80 minutes. Tell them about it. If there's soldiers that go from place to place and they come into your house, have I stormed it? Then you automatically could assume that this tumor that they brought in. They walk around for kishuf purposes. They walk around with the high scalps of of of of people of dead people for their kishuf and that brings in tumor. Don't be so uh amazed. We know that they skinned him. And then we had a picture I don't remember exactly they used to walk around every 70 years, right? They used to wear the thing of Nimrod and the whole thing. And they they would take around his his scalp skin. So the hell you mention. So I want to give you a quick beautiful. There's three ways to skin an animal that we're talking about. There might be more but we're talking about to make a They sell this we just saw it. I don't know where I was with you guys in Morocco? No. >> Yeah. >> Morocco? They they they the guy was trying to sell hides. Where was it? He's trying to sell like No. I was just at a gas station and the guy all he was selling was hides of a like a cow. That's it. Like uh Maybe in Yellowstone. Like next to Yellowstone I think it was. Yeah, so it's so like if you go you go to Africa they're selling zebra hides and then and and also it's things of you know more exotic ones. So what how do they do it? They cut it from tail to to neck. They just slice here just like this. Now they don't have to be too careful here cuz all they need is a flat piece that comes out like that. It looks something like that. A little flatter and they go ahead and they sell it. That's that's for a carpet for a bed. You know, they used to take this and and and and and stretch it to the to the poles of a bed and then that was that was the mattress. Now if you want to make a canteen of it, you want it to contain water. So what do you do? You cut it by the head and you leave everything on. So now it's a it becomes a vessel. So how do you do that? That that area that's the opening to your vessel. You put the water in over there. We actually have a real picture of this. >> [clears throat] >> Oh. That would be mamesh like this. People walk around today in different countries. It's completely it's sealed. The only the only opening is by the legs I guess and you cut the yeah you tie it up and the top that's where you need to put the water in. Great. you have a basically it's almost from all sides. Beautiful stuff. The final one is called Amargil. It's the exact opposite of this one. This one is you you you skin it from the head down. Over here, it's from the down up. How? Amargil from the feet. >> [cough] [clears throat] >> Right there by the chaza, that's the hardest part that they go with the mission is going to say in a second. Now, the question is the hide, at what point is the hide separated from the body, or at what point is the hide part of the the flesh and it acts as a handle to the flesh and mamila it's makabel tuma. So, if we put all three of them together, these are the halachas. Says the mission like this, "Amashu be beheima o bechaya." Now, we're talking about he's he's making a a carpet uh some sort of uh he he wants the whole piece, but he cuts it from head to toe to to tail. And he does this by by beheima o chaya, it doesn't matter if it's a even a deer, but the higher of it's may even a non-kosher animal, but daka o begasa, a small animal like a goat, a gasa, a cow. Leshatia, if he's doing it for a very flat flat piece, kedei achiza, then what is considered a handle? Only only up to whatever you can grab. But, once it's more than that, more than grabbing, it's tahor. That piece would be tahor, it's no longer used to flip an animal over to slap him this way that way. But, if you're doing it for lacheima, for a canteen, let's say, is there a better translation than that? A flask? Achie avshi desachaza, you have to get to the the breast, the chest, which is very difficult to remove. So, up until that point, it's part of the animal. Uh then, the mission Amargil. Now, we're doing Now, we're talking about the third one. Hamargil, you're going from the legs down, Kulo Chibulo Tumah. The entire Even when you get really low down, like like in the picture right over here, you see the skin all the way down. All the skin is is is part of the animal that acts as a as a handle on the stomach. Or Shel Al Etzavar, now you go down the left the left one, right? You're going down and down. Oh, Hamargil Kulo Chibulo Tumah. What does it mean Tumah Litamei? That it goes into the animal to become Tamei. So, if you touch the skin, even if there's a lot of skin that's removed, the Tumah goes through the skin into the animal and makes the animal Tamei. V'ulo Tamei, and if the animal is already Tamei, it will leave out through the skin and hit the guy. Or Shel Al Etzavar. Now, you're going down with the skin. You're going down down down down down, and you have skin all the way by the neck. Rebbi Meir En Echibor. No, that's the end. Who cares? A little bit is attached. It's garnish. The Chamayim Chibulo Etzavar is Kulo No, no, no. I don't care if it's only on the neck. You remove 99% of the skin and it's still attached a little bit, the whole skin is still Tamei. >> In the last case, in the Margil. >> In the Margil. We're talking about Margil. Yeah, the last case. So, it says So, it says that you have a little bit in the Shityas Chutz, right? So, all the way on the right, you guy cuts it from the tail all the way down to the neck, and he starts opening up. If he's able to grab whatever he can grab, that that helps him maneuver the animal, whatever the P'shat is. More than that, if he pulls more, then it's no longer attached to the animals, it's Tar. M'kan Ve'elach Mai, what happens? So, the Gemara says in Mordechai Chidush, Amarav Tar Amufshat. The part You hear what's going on here? Cuz it's a Pela. Here, look. This this this small amount right over here, I can't even see it on the screen. It's Mamash Tar. This Lapel is is K'dei Achiza. So, this is part of the cuz I go like this, I slip in this one. But once I start opening, opening, then this part, all this becomes star, but the part closest to the animal, that I'm going to still going to use that to grab the animal, that's tummy. So, this is the the first part that's the mom is just to grab, that's tummy. But all this flimsy part that's off the animal, that's star. But it's all attached. That's the mom you're taking Achiza. Right, the part that's in Yod that helps me maneuver animals, great. But the flimsy part that's all the way over here, what good is it? I can go like this all day long, my animal's not going to move. I don't as a as a as a remover of hide, I don't use that that piece of skin, so it's not Yod anymore. Omarav, says Rav Tarah Mushot, everything that you that that's really removed from the animal becomes star. That's the Omar. Comes Rav [clears throat] Asi, he says, Tefach Samech L'Basar Tomei. No, you get a a full Tefach closest to the to the to the flesh, that remains Tomei. And that the Gemara is not going to lie, the Gemara is going to go to town now and and try to prove Rav Asi wrong, basically. Amashu B'Shish K'Shirah Zeh. If you remove a little bit to hold on to the animal, M'Kan Be L'Chan U'Gev Mushot Tar. Everything removed from that point on is star. It doesn't mention a word about a Tefach Rav Asi. M'Lo Yod L'Afילו D'Var Samech L'Basar L'Choreh Zeh Even If the the Tefach that's closer to the meat, Lo Yod L'Afילו D'Var Samech L'Basar. No, it means everything like Rav Asi is right. Rav Asi could could could say it also goes like him, that means the Tefach. Tashma. B'Or [clears throat] Shegunegged HaBasar Tomei. Any hide that's still attached to the meat is Tomei. It seems like Or Shegunegged HaBasar Tomei, HaB'Tefach Samech L'Basar Tar. It's only the one that's attached. What about the stuff that's already detached? Seems like Rav Asi is wrong, even though it's the Tefach, even though it's close to the to the flesh, it's still Tefach, it's a detached, and it shouldn't have any tumor. No, kind of some of the or should not get the our kind of refers to skin that's attached to the flesh. It means also the look, he's not going to be if it's 2 mm and it's a little bit came untied, so he's going to say, "Oh, that's hard." No, everything that's next to this to the flesh that's attached, including the first that's detached, is considered attached to the to the bottom. The problem is we have now we're going to the big one. This one is very problematic. You're removing the skin but the hair of the tomato but that guy so we had a good picture here of vice fish doing this. Here we go, right over here. He's pulling the skin real picture from yesterday. And that guy but that guy so the and he's trying to do this for carpet for a bed for even a table cloth can they do that? But that guy but that guy so can they do that? Whatever it is to hold on this part of the animal. And it says against the summer of the that guy so says the first is always a handle and says no the first is star. Says the guy how come the my skin of the region? Everybody agrees the first first they pull off that you're not going to use as a handle. I'm not a a fillet guy or whatever I don't know what what is he doing there? What is it called? I'm not a fillet guy, but apparently the first that comes off they don't use as a handle. It's not enough for them. It's much easier for them to go to the rest of the animal, but once they get a full on the rest of the skin, then the becomes a handle. The first very first one not for whatever reason. You know, it's not enough to grab and help. So, how do I skin them first time it's actually tar, but it was just talking about the rest of the time. Come get the other time. What time is it right telling me that it's to grab is a time when it says that it's really two times to grab. I'm going to have to double you're right. It's it's a double but it's called a double time. Such a thing called a double time. He's not making this up. It says the first in the brightest come get the other one. What's the sheer of to grab? Double double it's a double double. Not awesome. So, we have interesting stuff here. Tell us you have a double double you have a double that's tummy. So, you know what you do in a double double in those days you take it and put in the mix up. Which is you know, interesting. Who puts clothing in a mix up? But that's what you have to do to get the two mile. There's another way to get the two mile and that's to destroy it. If you destroy something that's tummy comes tar. How does she do with the car? You start tearing it. Cuban Aruba once you get to the road you tore made a nice tear that's 51%. Sure when he came the guy is going to say how much is left over you have more left over you have a nice amount maybe it's not but at this point if you tear a road then it's tar. The question just a simple question what does it say Cuban she he's going to double car you started tearing it. Just say if you tore a road you're good. What does it mean you started? Every every time you get to a road to get to a road you're going to have to start at some point. So, why does it say it started? Says twice there's a beautiful finish that when you when you tear a road you tore 51% it actually became tar when you started retroactive. That when you show that you want it done then at that point at that moment it's already tar. Let's say a share it's touched it as you're tearing it but before you got to the road it would be tar. Why? Cuz eventually you got to the road and you showed you want to do something. Says I'm going to this is only what's it for you real quickly for all the new people. When you're talking you go to the mikvah but you don't become tired away. You have to wait until Shkiah. Here is Shamish. So if you threw this towels into the mikvah and then you tore it, then it's okay. Then it works. Why? Cuz you don't care about it. What does it mean? Cuz in the mikvah, you know there's a sign that says Take a shower before you go into the mikvah. And then it says and when you come out of the mikvah you should also take a shower just in case somebody before you wasn't marking on the area. >> [laughter] >> So when you put your bag into the into the into a mikvah, you're risking it. You might know it might turn colors. I don't know what. So if you don't care about your bag, you put in the mikvah and then you tore it. Then you're showing that you're going to tear the full amount. There's a lot of concern here and the doesn't like it so much. Concern you might not tear the whole the right. You might you might be a little stingy. You might think about what happens later. So you tear a little bit. But if you go to the mikvah, you throw it in the mikvah then I'm not concerned you'll tear the whole thing. I have a towel but if you didn't throw it in the mikvah, you can't you can't rely on the tearing it and say that it's torn. Why? There I'm going to make it there maybe might not tear the whole thing. I'm a rabbi I don't like this. I have two questions here. People are going to say that if you tear it if you tear if you already making serious people going to say oh just by just by go putting in the mikvah, I could use it immediately. They're not going to that it's because you tore it. Void void I lost if I'm so concerned that people won't tear the whole thing. So how come when it comes to Shkiah, I don't have that concern. The given the base. he says you have to you have to do Malika on the majority of two simanim. Oh, maybe a guy is not going to do it. Oh, that's a big question. What's the Malika? But okay. They call on the first question. People might say that after you go to the mikveh, you throw the garment in the mikveh. You're not allowed to use it right away cuz look, he used it. And then they're not going to they're not going to realize that he that it was torn. No, everybody realizes that he tore 51%. That's why he's using it. Malika on on on the Malika. We we don't have to be concerned about Kohanim. Tashma. It says that when you remove the the hide, it doesn't matter what type of animal, it's to hold on. What you hold on is tamei. Oh, yes, tare. But more than that, it becomes tare. Am I Malika? If you're talking about this now, every time there should be this How can you say that a little bit more is tare? What are you going to come with a ruler? And what if you did a little less? Because the tumah tareina maybe he might touch tumah might and it goes the tumah goes right through the the yard cuz it's only a kiza. And you're going to say it's tare because you have to make everything is is tamei. I don't know what. So the tumah derabbanan If you're talking about real tumah, then you're right. Then you should make However, the tumah derabbanan mamesh is is goes like the daicha. We're talking about a tumah that's only derabbanan. What's the tumah derabbanan from the 18 tumahs that uh Beis Shammai instituted that one day in the attic? For instance, if you touch a sefer Torah with your bare hands, you're tamei. If you go into a mikveh of of only sink water, you're tamei. Certain things like that. So that tumah, we're not going to make a big zero on. Tainach tumae get tahara. If a person is tameh and he touches something that's tahor, like like a carbon of the kachum, great. But what about taharat tumaeh? If you have a human being that's tahor, and he's touching a chazer tumat derabbanan, the chazer is derabbanan wise, it's an aveilah. If it dies, it's an aveilah. So that's a derabbanan. You just told me we're talking about a derabbanan. Says the Gemara, "No, no. What I said, betumaeh means betreifoh. The tumah is derabbanan. Why? Because it's a treifoh. We we shachted a kosher animal and we found out that it's treif. So the Gemara says, "What? We We never said that treif is derabbanan. Treifoh must be in." Yes, there's such a thing that a treif could be tameh derabbanan. Kidavud Shmuel, like Shmuel's father. In Kidavud Shmuel, the omer Avud Shmuel, treif as a shachtam metameh bemukdashim. That if you shacht a treif animal, it In when it comes to If you shacht, I'm sorry, you shacht a carbon, and you open it up and you find that it's treif. In a carbon, one time Rashi, in a carbon, that would be tameh midderabbanan. Should we stop here? Uh no, we can do It's late. Fine. Rabbosai, have a wonderful day. >> [music] >> Merit this class of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a shear today. mdy.sponsor.com or [email protected]. [music]