CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 115 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] Good morning boys. [screaming] >> Save the day over here. Welcome to all the guests. We're holding smack in the middle in the middle. We have very very interesting suggest that's I was thinking on the way here. Shas is so there's such v variety. You go from to this and here's things that we never heard before. Now, if I were to ask you, how do you know that's to eat and it's all the stuff you're not allowed to cook it? What would you tell me? >> It says three times. So, we're going to see that before we even get to that limo, there's like three other that's like one of the last ones. for whatever reason rashing brings that one and that's the the the >> the famous one. What brings that? Okay, that's the that's I guess the main one. But before we get there, we have other listen to this limo. This this is unbelievable. How do you know you're not allowed to eat it? It says in the Torah, you're not allowed to cook it. How do you know you're not allowed to eat it? When the Tyra tells you stay away from something, then the Tyra is telling you not to eat it. It's another about something completely different. You should not eat anything that that's that's an abomination that's disgusting. And this is disgusting tells you shouldn't cook it. So the is telling you get it. Stay away from it. Anything that I said it's disgusting. Okay. So we just said how do I know that you're not allowed to benefit from it like says in the name of any time it says one of these three languages of it tells you that you're not allowed to benefit from it. But we see in the Tyra sometimes you could benefit from something even though it says don't eat it. That's only when the Tyra specifies specifically go ahead and eat it. go ahead and and benefit from it. The super interesting check this out. Maybe you didn't you weren't aware of this. The ofa is in the of it's the same. Let's see this. So before we even get to we're now going to talk about it, but we had this recently in we had other places. I think you're not allowed to eat. What do you do with it? The tells you two options. Give it to the G. Give it to somebody that accepted upon himself not to worship the give it to the G. Not a real G, not a full-fledged Jew, a semi, someone guy that a good a good guy. [snorts] >> Yeah. Fine. You have another option. You could sell it to a nonjew. Why? And then great. So the question is [clears throat] what should you do? A person has a a has a dead carcass died without what should you do? You have two options. You have a neighbor who started keeping. He's a good boy. She give it to him for free or she'd sell it to your cleaning lady the gya for $100. What she do? So we have a if your to give it away for free versus selling it or maybe you have the option you can do both. Could you here's the question. Could you sell it to the G? Doesn't say that you could sell. It says give it to the G. Sell to the guy. Could you give it for free to the guy? But sometimes you're loud neighbors this that says you're loud because you need >> you need them. It's not free. But let's ask the better question. Could you sell it to a Noite? Could you sell it to the bottom line over here is that the Torah tells us straight out that what you what you could do with something. It starts off don't eat yet you could sell it. So you see a lot of from this particular one because the TUR is specified. Okay. Now we're just going to go into details. But the point is that when the T specifies that you're allowed to benefit from it, you're allowed to benefit. If the T doesn't specify automatically the how do you say it in in Hebrew? The the default >> one of those hard ones. The default is no unless the Torah says. So here here comes the what it says over there. It says over there don't you have two options. Maybe I have to stick to what the tells me. How do I know that I'm allowed to sell it to the Noite? He's he's already not. Maybe I could sell them. They go together. How do I know that I could give it to says together? Means you could do both. That's says you could do both to to each one. You could sell it to the G. You could give it to the guy. No, no, no, no. It's exactly like the Torah tells you know you could only give it to the you cannot sell it to him why say it's exactly as is right because the seems like I'm right it should really go together why say the word Just want to point out this tus or we could just finish this and I'll show you the beautiful tus cuz a lot of you are probably thinking question. Why in the world do I have to give something away for free when I can make money on it? It's not fair. So my animal died. It was worth $2,000 yesterday. Today it's worth 50 bucks. So I have to give it away. I have to lose more. So it says tas. It's very important anyway. You're not going to make a lot of money, says on this. You're talking about peanuts. Talking about 50 bucks. You're not talking about a few thousand. That's why it's better just to give it away. Big deal. He wants to say that if you're going to really lose a nice substantial amount of money, you don't have to give it away. That the Torah doesn't tell you to lose saying it's an come on you're you live in Bish. How many go do we have over here? Until you find someone wants to give you something for it's not worth much. There's no market for it. No market. Just give it away. Instead of making a few, give it away. Oh, and that this this is where Tyus comes in even more. The comes to tell you that you have a bigger mitzvah to give it away than to sell it. And agrees to this. It's obvious from logic that you should give it to the to the to the rather than selling it to the guy. There's a that says that there's a mitzvah to give to to to support the we're talking about here. Okay. submit the support. How much support? So says to to give away your house, whatever. But a small amount, 10 bucks, $20, whatever it is, the the something decent. Okay. So instead of you making $100, you get away, you lost $10. Big deal. Cuz anyway, you have a mitzvah of for him. So therefore, it's logic that you should give it away rather than selling it. And now the Gar is going to go in and do give a little ride through the Tyra which many of these are what we read yesterday because it happens to be I mean when you read parates it has the most mitzvah of any par so obviously you're going to bump in but here's a lot a lot of them shabas we're going to talk about food that was done through Shabas it's not soil plowing with two animals together, the food that comes out should be. But it's not. If you plant two seeds together, the food that comes out is not according to what you're telling me to. It's an abomination. It should be like if you the mother and her son, we had a whole per on it. this two on one day which is there's no to eat the Mishna says you're allowed to eat the meat afterwards which is it's a difficult difficult one to understand but we'll get there if you at the end says just without being the bird itself is sitting on the eggs and that bird that flies away should never be able to eat it says if you were it happens a lot. No, somebody doesn't takes out the ch takes off the ch the oven puts it back on. It should be awesome to eat. I told you not to not to not to make a shab not to be is different the day as the food not you can't ruin the food because of that. So on a on a very like shabas we have a that says no the food doesn't become says if you plow with a donkey and a horse together something like this or you muzzle the cow vid and then You plow the field. What should become? Whatever comes out. Do I need to show the other one? Forget it. No. Let's learn from Shabas. That what if Shabas that [clears throat] is that's Malchus. Skilo. Not the food that you make on you allowing it afterwards. So certainly so what's the question that everybody should be asking now? Oh you hear what he asked. So what about we're saying the whole time the isation such then we bring a from Shabas that it's not a problem in Shabas. Oh but what about also not a problem we learn from Shabas that it's not a problem. So why is different than those? So says >> huh it has to mean something. If >> we have a rule it has to mean something. So it makes sense. >> Look what Rashi says. says, "Better than you." You're eating the actual thing that the Torah said not to do. Said, "Don't put meat and milk together." And you did. And you're eating that. Over here, you're eating the outcome of of what the Torah said, "Don't do." Said, "Don't cook." And then you're eating the the outcome of that. They said, "Don't put a fire. Don't don't don't plow and what came out next year comes out this thing. So that's just the outcome. It's not the actual thing itself. >> But what about you take the two seeds when the T says don't put the two seeds together. This is the goofa itself and you putting in the ground. This would be similar to because it's the actual thing that you're not supposed to put together. Something similar called There's two seeds. You take banana and and a carrot and put them together. But there's also kilum [snorts] the the the original when you when you plow you you seed wheat together with grape. We take the word and we learn that you have to burn it. You burn the kilum. So it seems like only that type of combination of seeds of wheat and grape do you have to burn the other types you don't have to burn. Says okay there you have to burn and it's but maybe there's still something wrong with the two seeds the banana and the and the carrot. Why? And what you shouldn't be able to eat it okay over there you not have enough from it. Maybe regular season. Maybe regular season. So says when you put two animals together, it's us for you to mate two different species together. It says in the same pos two things also in this week's P. Right. >> Where are we? >> No. No. >> [clears throat] >> No animal the the offspring of this of this of the two species you're allowed to benefit from you're allowed to eat it since in the same I say when it comes to regular you're allowed to eat how do you know that you're allowed to eat you take you take a cow and you take a goat or Better yet, you take a goat and a deer, you put them together, and you have a koi. A ki a koi. You're allowed to eat the ki. How do you know? How do you know? It's it's made from is it would be like I don't know what a kiwi is made out of. I once I don't know if it's true. It's made out of seven different things. It could be it's original, but the uh you shouldn't be able to eat um a grapefruit. You shouldn't even have a grapefruit that took an orange and a lemon or whatever they did to make a grapefruit. It's clay, but we're allowed to eat it. How do we know that you're allowed to eat it? As we learn from that what sorry the says you're not allowed to bring a carbon that that that's made from two different species like a so we see it's a carbon it's for so if a person the mother cow and the baby calf on the same day should be also to eat the meat and we says, "What's this idea?" We're learning so many new concepts. Not not new. These are for most of us, but people that just started now. The classic is that the Torah says you can't sh an animal until it's 8 days old. So, if it's 5 days old, it's missing its time. It it didn't get to 8 days yet. It's missing time. The same thing if you sh the mother, you're not allow the baby. that baby's because today you're not you have to wait until tomorrow. It's missing a day. you'reing a day too early when the says that you're not going to bring it to as a but for a private citizen it's yeah I see I see the so it's a little annoying so to speak what's you'd say if I asked you what's that should be awesome what what would you tell Tell me any regular person tell me mendy what should she look like in what should be also in what way the mother >> you send away the mother and what should be if you don't send away the mother if you don't send away the mother then the egg should be says wild says no I don't like that no good better is that the mother herself if you didn't send her away she's aik she's because you have to send her away you didn't send away but you didn't even so if she flies away She remains also the isn't go away from her and then says which is not 100% it's not so what do you how do you understand that so you send it you don't send away somebody else is going to find it why is that it's okay because at the end of the day there's a little bit something not so in it's a piece of meat that's that's oh so we got another one another another source how do you know it says How do you know? Where's this? It says you're not allowed to eat it raw. You have to cook it. Now, it says a double of cooking. What else in the do you cook besides is cooking? It's extra word. There's another one that's also just like if you don't cook it, it's I learned it from a carbon. What? It's so disgusting. You don't like what's wrong with they have to come. [clears throat] What did Revie say? It says mdash. What's mdashim? And this our boy say is fascinating mdash is an animal you dedicated to the b md. You said I want to bring this to the b mikdash. Unfortunately it got a major m a lion came and bit off its whole leg. It's a m. So now what do you do? Can't bring it as a carbon. So what do you do? You sell it. You redeem it. But it still has issues. It still has a little bit of on it. You can't you can't share it wool. You can't this that a few. So you have a mixture of kulin and kachchum in the same animal. So I'll ask you a question. It has a mixture of kachchum and hoolen in it. So let's say I plow my field with this cow. That's you can actually draw a line down the middle. This side is this side is I I plow my field with with it. Am I on on on plowing my field with two minimum stop throwing out a question over there? >> Huh? >> Yeah. Yeah. We have a picture. >> So what's the what's the answer? The answer is that says yes. It's too you believe this. So is talking about why is it talking about? It's talking about check this out. You'll understand. says then it says again I already said don't eat it and once again so what do we see here there's a bunch of words that are extra so we're going to take one of these words and we're going to use it for for our says rebi it's talking about it's for because when it doesn't have any reason to be there. We have to use it. Wouldn't you get that is talking about here over here genius addresses one of the things is you should learn from something similar what's says how's it and guess what to it makes sense that this word is I'm just saying seriously if you put your mind to it would you be able to come up with something like this wow over here also we're talking about oh we're holding all the way there says why go to from he's learning it from carbon what's wrong with just stick with It is grape shot over there. It says right three times means don't eat. How would I know that's why I have my from over there? It's also you know how to benefit from it. Benefit from it. What does Rebi do? Rebi only brings a he learns it from here. right before. But it's interesting. Yeah, I got to admit it's a little interesting cuz it's really talking about an they talk about there's actually a big comma is there's over there. It's a different thing. Fine. But it says in the same is it's even a sh what it is what kind of be it is by a certain type of relations it says in other words says we see the idea of the another another source What's going on here? So if you don't see this in front of you, you might have a problem understanding. But now it's so understandable. The whole is talking about an at the end of the it says that's the main the main connection here. This it says So I would think that when I give it or I sell it to the guy, let me make my out of it. Let me make a hamburger, a cheeseburger out of it and then I'll sell it to the guy. So when you going to sell this in the don't don't cook it in milk. Why? Because is the very small tunnel. Oh, this is the one that we're so familiar with. After four of them, I don't know how many, four or five different attempts all the way from the beginning today. We're finally getting there later. This is what everybody's familiar with. This is the one that Rashi brings. Ley says it's also I I I really enjoyed this because it it brings you comes from all different directions. Another source says the word. We're talking about a an animal that dies. It has a has a one of these wounds that it's not going to heal from. So what is this called? This kind of li when you have the two words that are the same. Oh. Oh. Anybody anybody else want to jump in here and tell me? It says over here on the top puzzle and it says on the bottom puzzle. So we we compare the two. What is that called? So we're starting off with we're going to work our way into and eventually we're going to get we're going to go through all. I just want to know if anybody here could come up with the stuff on his own. I think it's very cool. You're not eat because it says the same word is called we know from we don't make this stuff up. this if this is if this got this. Okay. But it only says you're not eat benefit from Oh, so we have Arlo here. Arlo. This guy. You could actually probably lower the volume slightly. The first three years of the tree is misher bahano. You're not allowed to benefit at all from it. I'll ask you a question while you're watching this. Let's say me and Noam and Avi, we love looking at at nice mountains and waterfalls. Let's say we we see a beautiful orchard of 2 and 1/2 year old trees with gorgeous fruit. Man, beautiful stuff. You know, you go to Holland and you see these uh tulips and you know, you can see mish benefit my my father-in-law until they they just chopped them all down. He had in front of this tree apple trees >> like 15 apple trees. Unbelievable. It's a special breed like but in spring it was like pink. It was like crazy beautiful. >> Are you allowed to sit there and look at it when it's 2 and a half years old? Just look at it. It's >> our everybody would think. So I'm telling you if it's there might be on it. I'm telling you that I'm just I'm just telling things that are going to push buttons here. That's my job. [laughter] I'm doing a great job. So listen to this. You didn't do anything. It automatically it's created. I call upon him. So let's do this for a second not to not to confuse anybody. I'm learning from law that what our law the first three years is still but there's something special about our law that it never was never was created. [clears throat] When you put them together it's awesome. So now I'm going to have to learn from something else. We're going to learn from that. You're allowed to eat pizza all the way up until comes in and it's did I skip here. I'm going to put a car here. It's super. You can't bring any riot from PES. Don't bring a riot from PES with a car. Of course, it's also So now, what would be the right thing to do, Rabbi? If I stop here, [clears throat] where would I prove there's something in this list right over here that doesn't have yet? And that's Arla. So, here we go. Oops. I just jumped to Klay. Why? I could just go back to Arla. So, that's Gamar's question in in the future. When I put wheat and grapes together, there's no okay what I'm going to go and learn all the way to in other words I'm going to learn from but has a problem. So I learn from pes has a problem doesn't have a problem. Each one has a little bit of a problem but there's a common denominator that what So if so it's beautiful you just gave me a great from with the whole thing it's all this so let's erase the initial let me remind we had it says that's how we started from I learned that you're not allowed to eat how do I know you're not to benefit I I know you're not to benefit from this whole thing right over here why do I need to so why learn you're not allowed to eat and benefit all from here it's all the same you're not eat so just learn from these three guys together and together I'll know that you're not eat why did I start off this whole with says if you never did anything wrong you just planted says because I have a something else that what you do nevertheless it's says here. Why do you have after you get stuck by proof from there's no cars? Why are you going to another object here? Should look like this law. You have a problem. And the answer right over here should be around in a circle and we have a common denominator that we could stop over here. I just want to point something out. that when you're only learning from two different items like on the left arm and pes then I could throw in this thisa na is a problem I see from na but when I'm learning on the right I bring in that extra item I have and then I cannot just push it off with a ku of aa it becomes stronger I have three items I'm learning from then have a Wonderful day. [music] >> Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a shir today. mdysponsor.com [music] or sponsor atmop.com.