CHAZARAH - Bechoros Daf 7 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

Good morning. We have a fascinating suggest today. A lot of different interesting things going on from how is honey made? Why are we allowed to eat honey? Are you allowed to eat or drink a donkey's urine? So these are all mar fascinating today if we could get there. We have to like make our way there. We're holding like we didn't do and by the way I can't I started let's do two lines so the guy doesn't cut me out the you know nothing but the D guy. Where is heel? I want to tell we learned that you cannot drink the milk of a camel because this two words that say we had a whole you don't and there says you don't he threw away his stuff. So in America in this there's two days and it's a it's gula to fall off the daff when you have a two-day yont. So I want to warn the be prepared but know that if you forgot a d or something you should know the d it's the daf that you're going to be missing. The second day y is all stories m crazy amount of stories famous stories in fact rabbi >> iron felman wrote the book the juggler and the king just on this suga. It's a whole it's a fascinating suga. So jump right into it. It's not tough stuff. It's easy. these stories and if you want skip ahead I'll call upon him don't fall off as but without this what would happen you think without a drink the milk of a camel we had it at the end of it says byim for the new guys you don't know the we have a new chart of Theim the it says what does it come to tell us? Less are to tell us that their juices the little the brine that comes out the gravy the sediments the small pieces of the shar are all in other words milk of a would be. So why do I need a to tell me that the milk of a camel is also when I can learn from the fact that you could drink cow's milk goat's milk is a tremendous why when it comes to a woman why does a woman not see any dam when she nurses because the body uses it so to speak to to to create milk. There's Look, there's a there's there's components in the blood that that that that turn into milk. So, in fact, when you're drinking milk, you're drinking somewhat some blood. And nevertheless, you're allowed to drink milk. So once it's say okay so camel's milk is also so tells you no you cannot drink camel's milk why exactly does a woman not see usually when she's nursing during the birth all her bones get jarred up she's still like uh healing from this whole birth which takes about 24 months just to go back to normal and that's the reason why there's no dam but there's no blood there's no dam in milk and the fact you drink milk from a cow is not there's no blood in it according to this it's this is similar to like it comes from a live being and the Torah never allows you to eat the flesh off of an animal, the the blood of an animal, anything from an animal. This milk is similar to a limb of a living being. industry there is a every milk is a it comes from a live animal. So that's why we have to understand why eventually we're going to hopefully get there. Why are you allowed to eat bees honey? Why is it any different than milk from a camel? The milk of a camel. If I were to ask you, think for a second, bring me a ray from the Tyra that cow's milk is mutter. Where does it say in the Tyra that you're allowed to drink cow's milk? >> Okay. What else? But that's how do you know? >> Gold smoke is also part of it. Okay. So the says interesting that the GRA doesn't bring as the discuss it and also if you want to know also discusses it if the Tyra tells you you cannot cook meat and milk together it's mash that individually you're allowed to eat them says whoa Who told you? Maybe you're not allowed to eat milk, drink milk, but you're allowed to benefit from it. You're allowed to sell to maybe what the Tyra says that you shouldn't cook milk and meat is to add is not of course you're not allowed to drink the milk, but you're also not allowed to sell it. And what are you going to do according to that says you are allowed to sell milk and meat products? you allow to own a McDonald's but you'll still get malus on cooking it. So that's what the added but you don't have a like you said that from the fact that you're not allowed to cook is a that you're allowed to eat by itself. No, maybe you're not allowed to drink but you're allowed to sell it and then if you cook it together with meat you're not allowed to sell it or you get a you get malus on the on the cooking. So another this this no one thought of The Tyra says that if you bring a carbon and it befalls a m it gets a nice m you can't put it on its back. What do you do? You redeem it and you it tells us it right away. Eat it but don't shear its wool. You have to treat it with respect. Eat the meat. You can't drink the milk. The Torah says, "Don't drink the milk of this particular animal that used to be a carbon and now you can no longer bring it as a carbon." But if you have a regular animal in your barn, you're allowed to drink the milk. No, it's not a perhaps you're not allowed to drink the milk of a regular barn animal. But the adds, but there's a an additional that if it's a carbon, you're not allowed to even sell it. should have enough goat milk for your household. So you see that you're allowed to drink milk. It's it's a it's a you should have enough milk. Says this is not for you to drink. This is not milk for you to drink. This is milk to do business with sell it. This is this is milk for say this is to sell to the non-Jew somebody that could drink it. So David tells tells David go give the the the general give him 10 blocks of of cheese. So you see he's able to eat the cheese says maybe men give the you know sell to the not to the Jews what you're fighting the you going to sell them. Hey, by the way, before I shoot you, you want to buy some cheese like what I have another says in the says in the that is full of milk, milk and honey and if it's not allowed for you to drink it, the is going to say, "Oh, it's a land full of it's full of the toy wouldn't say such a thing." Obviously, the toy means you could drink it. You could eat it. It says unfortunately go break the food. Go eat. Go eat. Go drink milk. Okay, fine. So, we just discussed the the word twice teaches us you shouldn't. >> How do you know you're allowed to drink? shuff there's a whole parish of the the hair the the bunny whatever you want to call them and then their entire repeats the whole parish again in in a whole parish in then again in see what it's coming to say that you can't drink the the pig milk can't be look at the so why does it say it again why does it repeat the parish again it says guml it says what are we learning Why does the Tory repeat the whole parish again? Because there's an animal called the Shua. It has like two two spines or whatever. Two backs. Also, it's a tummy animal. So, this is it has two two I don't know, two backs. Do this. There's a there's a bird called a raw And this bird is also a tommy bird. So I needed the whole parachute. But sometimes there's a concept if you're going to learn one thing. So the Torah repeats the whole thing over. So it talks about the talks about the whole thing. Interesting he put our ne in here together. So the sigmar says if so how are you learning from Guml? I had to repeat the para anyway to tell me about the shua guy for the ra the go is not extra it happens to just come along with everything else says go you're right I could have gotten away and said that is not it's just the said it because I wanted to tell you about a bird called a but if I could if I could learn something from it I might as well learn something that what you can't drink camel's milk So going into ai here also a very simple but a continuation of yesterday. Where's that picture here? This you have a goat that gave birth to a sheep looking thing and a sheep that gave birth to a goat-looking animal. What's the noar? Nokar. It has to be looking like its mother. The mother has to be a sheep. the the the the has to be so we have here this says like we learned about mix what does mix mean not to see with cash but if it looks similar to its mother let's say it has a sheep head but the rest of the body is goat that's enough it looks like its mother you don't need a ro you don't need any you need some identifying >> resemblance >> not resemblance identifying characteristics Six features >> features identifying features and says no. And that's the whole right now. We're going to do a whole minute about it's a kiss from here's you did a great job here. I like it. Roy three4ers of it is sheep. The other the other the other part is who knows what it looks like a horse. Oh sorry then if we look at this picture right over here when it comes to eating such an animal do you need or is the head let's say enough the ears enough? As long as it has some wool it looks like a sheep. So what if it's a horse? It looks like sheep. You're allowed to eat it. What does hold when it comes to eating? We know what hold it has a little bit of resemblance to it mother as long as it comes from out from the you're allowed to eat it over here. Maybe. No, it's not enough coming out of you have to have what's the you need the mother and the and the offspring to look like axe. But when it comes to eating, if something's a 100% a camel, then it's huh. If it's whatever I'm sorry, even a little bit, just a little bit looks like a like a like a a sheep or you're allowed to eat it. Maybe it's no different than a bar just like a you need according to eat it you need. So is going to go to three four different rayas push them off and say it's not a good ray. If you go all the way to the bottom of the like five lines from the bottom says six lines from the bottom holds you need this you need a head and most of its body like a suka could even call it a suka in order to eat it. So says that the Gumar knew this. This is a classic Gumar and this is good for all of the Gar knows this knows that we have a great brings other and it even pushes it off with because at the end of the day we know what holds the knows. It's not like oh question does he hold it? We know holds you need for eating prove it. So I'm going to go through three four things and on the way we're going to see different interesting. So, let's try to do it a little quicker than usual because it's it's stuff we're familiar with and some somewhat repetitive in a way. If an animal gives birth to something that looks like a kosher animal gives birth to a donkey, you're not allowed to eat it. Isn't that it says if it's then sorry let's start again number one is you not eat it and then number two is that if it has two in one you're not allowed to eat it but if it's the majority of the body and the head look and what about eating the fact that it's that goes in the first part also it's like one long sentence that you need in order to eat it says it's not it's only for the last part and I'll prove it to you what kind of sentence is this I start off talking about eating and all of a sudden I switch into another gear. I talk about something completely different another topic called and I talk about obviously he's only talking about not for eating. No, I can push that off also because I don't have a maybe it's one long sentence. In order to eat it and in order to do you need to have like this picture just why why did it address only the and it didn't talk about the eating I need to I need to explain the poss like we said before on the bottom of this note. What do we say mameish? You said I just said two lines from the bottom of it seems from the it has to be 100% thorough bread it's not enough a majority of the body that's and that was said by some addressing the but you should know that for eating also you need perhaps anyways no riot next the word this you shouldn't eat from. Here's the It might be important to see this whole here's an animal that has one of the two shouldn't eat it. Guml the camel. This guy that's 100%. It looks exactly like a camel. Even even not a pure camel not a that its parents were camels but rather both its parents were cows just it looks 100% like a camel what is don't get confused there is now we're not talking about regurgitating and we're talking about identifying characteristics one thing looks like a cow he has a black and white patch on its stomach it's not 100% the camel in such a situation then you could eat it. Why? Because both its parents are kosher animals and it has identifying characteristics of a kosher animals. Eat it. You don't need aubai. It's enough to have it's a camel that was born from cows. Its father is a cow. You allow to eat it. Oh, that's if both parents are cows. What if his father is in fact a camel? His father's a camel, his mother's a cow, and he's a camel. He's in between. So maybe you should be able to eat that also. No, you can't eat it. Why? Is like plural. It needs to be the sheep of sheeps. In other words, the sheep was created by two sheep, not one sheep. Its parents are they are goats, not one goat. It has to be two goats. Not true. The word z comes to add. No. In fact, if the father is a tommy animal, the father is a lion and the mother is a cow and they had a child, you're allowed to eat that child. What would be the logic that you're allowed to eat such a child? Cuz we learned there's a concept. It sounds scary, but it's very simple. What does it mean? If two things cause something to happen, we don't need both things to be perfect as long as one of them is okay. Very simple. Father lion. No. No. Mother cow. Yes. Yes. They have a baby. As long as 50% is okay. Baby's okay. >> But the mother is Yeah. Yeah. We We hadis. It's a fancy word to say a simple concept. this and this cause water or you can say that's the whole here between it's two lines and we go there's a double of in other words as long as one parent is a sheep boom you could eat it what's the ra here to we said before three lines up it says this animal is a camel looking animal it's a you called it a and you told me you don't need a all you need is it has a little bit of a characteristic like the mother so so you don't need and at the end by the By the way, what do we say? What is you do need at the end? That's the mascara. So, we're going to push it off, says we're going to give it a No, maybe it doesn't hold 100% like maybe it holds that you need a little bit of one characteristic is enough to eat it and is going to hold. No, you need not arrive from here. But here's it becomes fascinating. It's the same but in a question and answer form. But we get to address something very interesting. You're telling me that a camel and a cow got together and they had some. Is it even possible such a thing? Why? What's the problem? So I'm asking a question and answer. How in the world did this cow get pregnant? It's impossible. Makes a statement. Look at this chart. You can't have a horse and a cow that have offspring. You can't have a larger cow have offspring with a sheep. It just doesn't work physically, >> genetically, whatever it is. It just >> chromosomes. >> What? >> Different amount of chromosomes. different chromosomes. You can't have a So what are you going to ask me about the part? What about the says that you can have a male sheep and a female deer and that's what we call a say. Okay. In fact, you're right. You're right. What happened was No, no, no. You missed it. You're right. Physically, scientifically, it's impossible for no to have offspring with a with a sheep. It's new. So, how did a camel have offspring with a cow? The answer is it's not your typical camel. What happened was it's one of these. There's two cows that had a cowill. So, it's not a real camel. It's a It looks like a camel. >> It's a nidma. Exactly. Very good. It's a nidma. >> So now the camel had a got married to a cow. They made a good cuz he's a cow. Oh, he could have offspring. The camel, think about it. Genetically, could a cow have offspring with a cow? Yes, cuz he's really 100% genetically a cow. His chromosomes are the same as a cow, so it works. But he's not a cow. He's a camel. We call him a camel. He's a nma. Looks be deceiving. He's He's only He's a he had he had he was par his hooves were not but he's really uh chromosome wise he's he's a cow. Oh, so here's the same thing, right? We just said before, but we were just talking in the question. How's it possible? You're allowed to you're allowed to eat this this product even though it only looks similar to the mother in a little bit. Not not hold you need. He doesn't know. You see holds. You don't need you're allowed to eat it. Say you should bring you should offer you a restaurant some of this meat. He's gotish camel meat steak like that video over there. He holds that. So you're not allowed to eat a to animal that comes from a kosher animal, but if it has you're allowed to this says you're right, one simmon is enough. Argues on the verb part. So this is the right over here. This the shorty. Remember the when the father is a he's a camel and the offspring is a cow mill holds you're allowed to eat such a thing. Why? Because 50% even one parent is enough. One parent is not enough. You need both parents to be kosher. We see the exact opposite where you have an animal that's a tra has a hole in the heart. You know how put on but it went ahead and it had offspring. hire that offspring should not be allowed to go on the misb. So 50% is a tradeoff. One parent is a trade for one parent is not. Could you put the offspring on the and over here we have to reverse you put on a second over here. says typically speaking but when the one parent is a parent is a kosher he holds his mother why it's a matter if one parent is say the same similar thing typically says that if one parent is kosher it's but in this case when the father is a cross just say all three of them knock them out one two three double why plural like we said before the same we said before the means your parents have to be both sheep both a bull or cows And here's the final thing in the end of the What's the question? When it comes to eating an animal that looks like that horse looking sheep. Yeah. Where was that? Wherever it is. You know what I'm talking about. >> Rouba guy. Yeah. Gary, I don't know if you could put it all the way to the end, but >> Dave is up there. >> Oh, that was confusing. So, this in this case does does require this or it could even lessen this eat to eat an animal that looks similar to its mother. So, a whole lot to get to get to this a regular 100% thoroughbred camel and uh and a camel that was born from kosher animals here says you need to eat know what you see from here. You see it's not like a you need to something that comes out of a Tommy animal is to something comes out of your favorite. What about donkey urine? Why you ask me about a donkey? What about that of a horse? since the horse urine is very clear. So it's not similar to milk. Milk water goes into his body comes right out. Whatever he doesn't use comes right out as is. Not too much uh enzymes. I don't know what they, you know, it's just it's almost like water. We're not asking the question that I'm asking about the lime of a donkey. Since it's muddy, it's it's not as clear. It looks like it's similar to milk. Why? It goes through the body, goes through processes, and therefore it's also it's like milk, the milk of a of a donkey. It goes right through. And the fact that it's muddied, it just came because it went through the body of the heat of the He made a you want to make a also we learned that anything that comes out of a Tommy animals it comes doesn't say it says meaning all things that come out of the it's a it's a product from a tommy animal it is some say there wasn't a question about the horses. Why? Nobody drinks that of a donkey. Many people drink it. It's good medicine for what do we do? We got to go a little bit jaundice. We learned since it comes from a non-cultural animal, it's also to drink. Why is it they drink the nectar? It's very interesting the way it works. I'm not a biology thing, but just the little that I know and I read a lot of Rabbi Schoberg's thing here. Beautiful piece. So, what they basically do is they take the nectar and and they do add a little bit to it like a little enzyme or whatever to break down like he said from the complex sugars to fructose whatever to the the other sugars. But they basically they they fan out the the the the water content. They bring it down to like 17% water and that makes it thicker. The gumar understands that that's not going through its body as a process of a like a regular digestive process and that's why it's so then it brings up a question. So what about beeswax? What about um other honeys from other insects? Says no that only applies to bees. No, it's not because so wants to say that also it barely goes through a process through the body. So should be mut should be like bee honey. She says, "No, be honey for a different reason. special that you're allowed to drink and eat honey's beh Beast honey from this eat a flying insect. Eat a bee. What comes out of it? Maybe the the honey of a some sort of locust. Why is it any different than because it doesn't have a a second name? It's called you go to the store, they have honey here in it's very popular, the honeyim from flowers. It's not really bees honey, but bees honey is called honey. They don't say bees honey, it's honey. Other stuff has another name to explain. Have a wonderful day to all the guests that came. >> Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today. mdysponsor.com or sponsor atmop.com.