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CHAZARAH - Bechoros Daf 4 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky
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[music]
Good morning.
[screaming]
I see the is tired.
That means this is good evening. Good
evening. All right.
We're holding by.
We had to stop short yesterday because
the Israelis wasn't nice.
They were waiting. So
like I don't know 18 lines from the
bottom
she became Jewish her family remained
non-Jewish
her brothers would give her animals so
she had a partnership with non-Jews
made she came to ask if she's in does
she have to give does she have to new
opinion for the for the animals.
No one holds aud that says that a
partnership we hold a partnership you
are
again so for the new people the reason
why he's named after his mother his
mother was the daughter of and she was
what's the word not kidnapped she was
>> she was
>> whatever she was in captivity and
the what's his name Isura isura
fathered this child Rahari later on he
became a g and he got married but at the
time he wasn't Jewish so that's why we
don't mention his name is
so but he's brought in many times
he's the grandchild of and he's very of
a person he had animals have
so what did he do he
make a kingion with a guy. He would sell
it with money. Do a king. That's what a
does. They're able to acquire with
money. So he sold off the ears of the
animal. So that of the animals there
like this. He's potter from Ty says that
that that's what we do. That's actually
how we do it. We know how to do it a
little bit better, different. It's more
acceptable today. You see the Gar holds
that it's it wasn't the right thing at
the time
but listen but he didn't he didn't do it
as a listen to what he did
he let all the that you do with you know
how to wool you know how to work it and
he he ended up giving it everything.
However, nevertheless,
all his animals died as
if he did everything. He treated it like
and he also gave it to the kite.
So then why did he go through the whole
trouble of making a key to the guy says
he was concerned that people might
ride this animal use this animal even
though it's so right away he went and he
took the away from it
>> but not to gain from it he gave it to
the
so why was he punished
the
took away the of the from the Even
though he didn't gain anything, at the
end of the day, he did the wrong thing.
Is as we're going to see, I'm sure we're
going to talk about it a lot.
[clears throat]
I didn't take Do me a favor, Gian. Take
some of the last slides, the one with
the b the fetus with the nail, and put
it in here for a second. That is that
you cannot deliberately make a m in an
animal as a k because if a kay gets a
bkar first born he has to take the all
the way to md you know how hard that is
take a animal put it in a car even that
the the little sheep that we got we had
to rent a special car so that you know
if it gets dirty well I didn't do it
whoever it is put it in tie it down the
whole thing shle it go go go go through
the whole process
like this. If it has a little bit of a
problem with the ear, you just chuck
that at home and that's it. So you see
it's a big iss to to go ahead and give
it a a m. But if it's in the mother's
stomach,
so it's still it doesn't have anusha. So
you stick your hand in, poke it with a
nail, make a hole in its ear, and it
remains. It is now and it remains.
So is asking so what's the big deal?
What did he do here? He gave a
partnership to a go beforehand and
[clears throat] therefore
as this animal's born it's not a it's
not aar and that's it.
It's a It's not It doesn't have
It doesn't have
When you make a hole in its ear,
you got it. Or what's going on here?
When you do that hole in the ear, when
it's in you row, then it still goes to
the cayen. You got rid of part of the
but you didn't get rid of all the
but
in our case when you sell the ear to the
guy there the zero nothing goes to the k
you got rid of it completely.
Another [cough]
shot is
that's it. No, didn't go in.
That's a pretty long getting it.
Whatever. We're on to the next.
He used money and he made a real Kenyon.
other people are going to see it and
they're going to try to mimic it
[snorts]
and they're not going to know that he
did a they'll think that he did
something with his mouth. He said
something
and it's going to be a problem cuz other
people are not going to know and they're
going to without doing a good king
they're going to try to do the same
thing just by telling hey you're my
partner and therefore people are going
to end up using
the makes
is talking about [laughter]
to redeem your firstborn donkey.
Why?
If they were able to [cough]
cause the redemption of Israel in the
desert,
what happened
in the desert?
>> [clears throat]
>> Interesting.
The rabbi says like this. This is just
from our gamar. I threw it in there.
I think it's an hour. No, it might be in
a different d. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I
saw it. [cough]
>> D.
Why is it d? I don't know. We'll see.
Maybe it's there.
There were 22,000
Israel
or we could call him but the name of
that is
there's 22,000. It sounds better. And
Hashem said we have to transfer the
Ducha of the because the Bkar used to do
that.
They don't deserve it anymore. We're
going to give it to the Levim. So
basically there 22,000 Lim
that took the part of the 22,000 but
there's more than 22,000 Israel. There's
22,000 273 Israel. Only 22,000 got
redeemed by the Levim. 273 that's not
important today. Today Sia 273 had to be
redeemed by money. Why? Because there's
only 22,000 Levim available to do the
this transfer. Why? 300 of the 22,000
22,300 300 were
the ley themselves they had some
firstborns
I don't know I I really don't maybe
somebody could help me out my problem is
that if you do the math 300 is a very
very small number of it's only one and a
half% do the math of regular society
there's 50% firstborns 50% of firstborn
borns are male.
There's a percentage that is C-section.
There's a percentage that's lean. But
how do you go from 50% to 1 and a half%
of Bkar? How is there only 1 and a half%
BK? Now, now obviously there's more kids
and this that it should be about 8 to
10%.
>> 22,000.
>> Mhm.
>> 30 kids in one family.
>> 600,000 divide by 22 is about 30. In the
lady there were 85 kids in each family
>> because 300
>> but they didn't have
>> I know that's what doesn't make sense.
You're saying that okay based on these
numbers I hear [cough and clears throat]
okay yeah if every family had 35 kids so
then it makes sense then 1.3 are correct
okay now that makes a lot more sense
okay that's the answer probably
[clears throat]
okay but what does it say it says like
this
if you just read the simple wording the
Mishna if the ley himself 22,000
they had the power to get rid of the of
the is.
So certainly they should be able to get
rid of their own they should be able to
be poisoned themselves
if they're able the ley was poish
I had that issue
the the he was able to get rid of the so
certainly he should be able to get rid
of his own issues
wait a minute how could
a ley the person potter.
So the understands the Mishna was saying
that because Levy potters other
Israelim. So they potter their animals.
They potter the ley has a has a way to
potter up his own. You don't need to do
pigar. You don't have to do other uh
other
asking but it doesn't work like that
gave a to other to other is the
animal of the ley is what gave the to
the other animals. It's not the ley gave
the to the animals is the animal gave
the ley was instead of the
and the animal of the le.
So what the mission means to say
what the mission is the mission is not
talking about humans the mission is only
talking about animals and we're trying
to get see how the animal of a ley
doesn't need to do
or any kind of
why
if in the desert the animals had the
power to get rid of the
of
so certainly you should be able to get
rid of their own
but it doesn't fit into the wording of
the
just read themselves
it really means okay fine
if they themselves it says doesn't say
they're animals it says if they
themselves another problem
If [clears throat] so,
then the [snorts] the the kosher animals
should [clears throat] also be their own
their own kosher animals should be
the they didn't get out of their own
kosher animals. If they had a firstborn
sheep, they had to do a pigeon. The only
thing they got ped from is the
we're going to see later on that the
kohhanim's animals pottered the sheep of
the Israel but their own sheep not what
did they potter for themselves their own
bkar today if a cayenne has a a or ley
have a firstborn
they don't do
and if they have a pet or if they have a
firstborn donkey monkey. They don't do
but what they do have to do they have to
give they have to redeem the first sheep
or cow or whatever they have the kosher
animals asking why should they why
should they have to redeem their own
first cow according to your they should
be potter
if their animals their their sheep have
the power to potter the the sheep so why
shouldn't they potter their own sheep
This is
we're talking about human beings. The
doesn't have to do
if they were have the power to take the
the
out of the
certainly
the bar who's going to do it thear of
the ley
shouldn't need shouldn't need to to do a
he himself should be probably himself
self
says
we see that a human being
we just had a human being doesn't have
to do
but if he has a donkey how do you know
he's
in the same that talks about it
continues
same
atomic animal so Therefore, if a
who has to redeem his firstborn, he has
to redeem the firstborn donkey.
So a who doesn't have to do he doesn't
have to do
[clears throat] learning the talking
about animals that if the has the has
the power to get rid of the of Israel
animal should get rid of his own
said if comes out logic will tell us
that only a ley that actually went
through the process of removing ducha
from Israel has the ability to remove
his own that's if he had a sheep in the
midbar
but if he didn't have
said but if he doesn't have a sheep to
remove the he shouldn't have the ability
to remove the ducha from somebody else
question number one if a ley doesn't
have a sheep how does he have the power
to removed and then another question
four questions.
According to
the ones that were counted, there are
22,300. Those are only animals that are
above a month old. Those are the animals
that were counted and they had the power
to remove from the Israel. But under a
month old, not
it's another question. [snorts] Question
number three.
the women
le didn't have
they weren't part of the counting they
weren't part of the 22,000
so therefore it comes out that if the
mother is a ley let's say today we all
know if marries
anybody here married to a ley
>> yes
>> you so but you don't you're first born
anyway you're you have a firstborn
>> and you had a firstborn zar
>> anybody had a for you had a firstborn
zar the guy that just got married. He
didn't have a pee in a bench.
You're in that video. You're looking for
to save the five married not you. I mean
it's [laughter]
Yeah.
We learned if a a ley woman her father
is a but she married Israel.
>> But the question is
why did he say that if if she wasn't
part of this number the 22,300 she's not
part of that number. If you're not part
of that number just like the baby that's
under a month old is not part of this
number. So the baby shouldn't have the
ability to redeem
himself. And the the bas lady is not
part of this number. Also her children
should be in
[clears throat] they're not says that
the last one of the the woman is not is
not is not a good question.
It's the first born that comes out of
the womb. So even if she's a woman lady,
she's potter. What about a woman you
that's married to a ley? If it's pet, it
has to do with the mother. No. So in
that case, obviously the f it goes by
the father. But even in the case of the
mother, if it's her first born and she's
a she's popular
another and final question
wasn't counted in the 22,300
in the
Why are the on
you didn't write that yet?
It usually means it's it's coming to to
exclude something.
Iron wasn't part of the 22,000. So it
comes out that you hear the would have
to do his own. He'd have to do he would
have to on his on not on his animals he
would have to do it. So let me ask you a
question. Why animals? Maybe the
question is on himself. Maybe he has to
do his own.
How do you know it wasn't
>> was not a miriam was thear? Yeah, that's
the answer.
Couldn't have been the right. He had a
sister that took him on the thing.
And
was older than
three years older.
So finally answers the
call.
So let's go back. What was the first
question that we had? Anybody remember?
What was the problem? Problem number one
that if a Levy didn't own a sheep, it
comes out that he shouldn't be able to
have the power to redeem others. The
answer is all of them are in the same
category. The next question was what if
you have a Levy that's less than a month
old? He's still in the Pik. All the Lev
are hookah. Next question, the son of
Alvie woman. She wasn't in account. And
then finally, we had also arro. All four
of these are answered because they're
all allim areim. And whether this
particular lady didn't have a sheep or
he's too young, it doesn't matter. All
are in this parish. And they're all
apart from
we spoke about what the fame is.
They're interchangeable.
It says it brings one down.
They say that.
Yeah. Yeah. I already said it. Finish.
How do you know that even in our
generation?
The word always
the way they were then now they they
still remain in the same exact way.
How do you know that in the midbar they
used sheep?
Talks about redeeming a donkey with a
with a sheep. That's for generations.
And it also talks about money.
for the
in the it says that the 273 were
redeemed, right? There was 22,000
that were able to redeem 22,000 is but
there was an extra 273m
that didn't have a redemption from the
what did he do? Money. The says money.
We use money in the midbar.
So, so too let's let's compare money to
the sheep just like money we use for
future generations and also in the
midvar so to sheep future generations
and also in the midvar they use sheep
says wait a minute
maybe in the midvar they use money
because money is something that you
could do use it for if you have extra
you have all this heavy fruit you don't
want to you redeem it on money bring the
money up to if you want to buy a car off
the bdosh you give it to
money and the car becomes yours. So
money works. So maybe it works also to
redeem
you in the
so we have in the same
like we have before.
So you compare the two when it comes to
money we use money for future
generations.
use
and later on we're going to see it's
actually
over there might be talking about
in the desert that what one sheep can be
used on a bunch of donkeys. How do you
do that boy? How do you do that? You
line up five donkeys and you say okay
this one sheep is for the five. No, that
wouldn't work. So, what do you do? You
redeem the donkey with the sheep and you
give it to the kay. It has zero gusha
the sheep. It's just you redeemed it.
You just like there's no gusha on those
coins the guy gave me from a bed.
There's no gusha in it. He redeemed it.
It was a redemption. And then you go and
you buy it back from the he as to give
it to you. So, you keep on using the
same sheep over and over.
So tell me if this makes sense to you.
Why do I think I said? Okay.
The Tory tells you how many there were,
how many is the war? 27 22,000 273
versus 22,000. It's very exact. And what
do you do with the extras? Now, how come
he doesn't talk about the animals?
So it seems like and there was a lot
more
and animals that the Israel had than the
it has to be that the Levim's animals
used one for many of the
what's the answer to that was that a
good
maybe the didn't have that many animals
no that you can't say
If they had so much that they didn't
want to go into they needed all this
pasture. So you see they had many many
animals.
But what the question is
look let's say the had 100,000
sheep. But were there 100,000
sheep?
They had 5 million sheep. But there's a
100,000 bkars. Male bkar. We just said
it's it's a very low number.
>> Not donkeys, right?
>> Donkeys. No, sheep. Sheep. We're talking
about sheep here. Sheep. You'll see in a
second. It's sheep.
The one one le animal is instead of many
of the of the Israel.
asked the
when when the read this kiss from I was
like I'm asking I saw the gamar quickly
in the morning before ding and like I
said wait a minute it says over here
and that's exactly what the gar is
talking about I guess I saw the p and
then I I didn't realize it's in ya mish
raba you use a singular with with a
plural rabba Many
say you're right. You could use it like
in
would mean many and then you don't have
a from
that one is for many. Maybe it means
many for many. But the problem is in
but be consistent in the same you can't
use two styles. Can't use the word bea
as many and then a second later say
behem.
So either say both words should be the
word consistent.
>> It's inconsistent. The two words in the
same
in the same. So
say say both words for
you see from here that one has the power
to
many.
you use one
animal to be.
So then why why is sing over a because
the is talking about in the midbar what
happened in the midbar
oh so we are talking about over here we
are talking about abi is right
>> no before it was sheep and now it's
>> it is moved over
>> the point is being a dump right but
before
>> no but it could also be pa no you're
going to see soon that you can be use
one sheep for for kosher sheeps also the
sheep of The the Lim did do a opinion on
all the sheeps
>> their own not
>> they switched now
>> they switched
>> okay anyways the point woman before I
forget the point is why why do you
repeat it they say that even in
use one sheep to do a bunch of
so we have a simple is over here
The bkar that the init
the in has the question is what do you
do in the middle was the to all the in
the midbar
says there's no it's a sandwich like the
the the right and the left
yes in the middle
It says in the
there were already
it says when you come
there was there was only only when that
came into this.
So that day, listen to this. [music]
Here's the
before that they were using Obama here.
Abama
whatever you had. You had one of these
in your backyard and you used those.
But it says over here and who performed
that Abkar. So what do you see that aar
has duch in the midbar in the midbar
they're using the bama so what are you
guys going to say no what's the what's
the ria exactly thear in the midbar did
maybe from sure
what's the in the midbar performed oh so
you see this he became a in the midbar
no
it doesn't prove anything
listen to their
when did this whole thing happen here
with the it happened a year after they
came out of so if you tell me you can't
use a from the from doesn't work just
has to be I'm proving that the that was
born in the desert he performed
how old was he maximum he's a year old
how could a one-year-old do perform with
so what was he
He says
if a newborn baby becomes a so then the
guy that came out of when he's 30 years
old and he was a then he remains as a
if a new baby doesn't become a so then
the guy that came out of he should
become notar and what's the answer to at
there something called grandfathered in.
You're right. All the new babies they
don't becomear. But if you already
you're born maybe it continues.
I found out yesterday there's no such
thing as grandfathered in. The word
grandfathered in in Hebrew doesn't
exist. The concept I guess doesn't
exist. Maybe the whole idea.
How do you say
>> fine? Let's just finish right over here.
Have a wonderful day.
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